I read that article and thought: - ain't no way Tadej is treated like just another rider on the team -Horner said it was calories years ago and even brought props (Snickers and Coke) to demonstrate his point 🛋️🦋
Exactly. No way they are all even. But it’s funny that they try to make us believe it. Much like Jumbo’s bus slogan “Win Together” while it’s the teammates attacking each other at last years Vuelta. 🇪🇸😂🦋👊🤪
Tadej Pogacar said it himself in the post-interview after he got dropped at the Tour De France 2023 stage 17, Quote: "It's like, I tried to eat as much as possible but it was like, nothing goes into my legs, everything just stays in my stomach"
If you look up "Jay Vine Reveals How Jonas Vingegaard Broke Pogacar". Pogi's team mate Jay Vine breaks down what happened with the TSS and Pogi cracking in that tour
They made him burn his matches. Once you dig into muscle glycogen stores it's too late. That's why they try to stay at 120grams an hour to not dig into muscle glycigen at all 😅
When Pogacar said he felt like he was overeating and the energy wasn’t getting into the legs, that doesn’t mean he was good on calories. What people might not realize about bonking is that when you hit that wall you’re DONE and the body doesn’t start to recover until you’ve stopped your effort. That’s why timing your calories is just as important as having enough for the day. When you look at Pogacar’s bonk, he did not get the calories at the right time and allowed himself to ride past the limit. Once he was that deep in the red, it wouldn’t have mattered how many calories he tried to take at that point since the body already transitioned to self-preservation mode.
If you are on the right diet and/or trained properly to burn ketones instead of glucose, bonking can be very minimal and last only seconds to a few minutes.
@@DR_1_1 And ketones are even more plentiful if you have trained yourself properly and better yet, if you are on the right diet. And, I don't mean ketone supplements.
I would much much prefer Chris’ somewhat repetitive language to that of Sean Kelly. Whenever it’s his turn to speak, he simply cannot start talking without preceding everything with, “Yes, well……”. Every stinkin time he starts talking, “Yes, well….”. The fiftieth time I hear it in one stage, I’m ready to pull my hair out. Unprofessional! Sorry, now you’ll never be able to listen to him without hear it also. 😂😂😂
As Slovenian as somebody who are almost neighbor (5km to both of them) . I prefer Roglič (as he is elder, and he doesnt have many years in front of him) but also Pogi is super nice guy. Pogi will be top for years .. on local uphill he passed my wife on her 250W electric bike like super car.
We’re headed to Bled for a while this summer - have a beautiful bike lined up for some great rides. Avid rider, love to climb… any recommendations? Researching on strava as well.
When you will be on Bled? And for how long? i can give you some sugestions or I can guide you to some tours around. I will be there all summer so you are weelcome to coffe or beer after ride. I have house in center just 5 min walk to lake. I suggest you also travel with train to Soča valey with bike on train.
To @Bill-cy2cy Bled is very touristic place and rather packed, because is just a small Alpine town around the lake. Unfortunately last year they started to build a new road, which will bypass the traffic around the town, but construction work is still ongoing and officials are warning us about traffic jams. But Bled is very nice place indeed. Simply from touristic side for walk around or few km beside there are place like Soteska Vingard (a gorge some 4km away you will need to book the tickets before over the internet), Bohinj (another lake and surrounded by hills 20km), for the rest just check the internet or ask Tourist office. About the biking? Myself I am having hardtail and my idea is going Up .. roads, gravel: for that kind .. around Bled is Pokljuka (towards biathlon center) and down to Bohinj via Uskovnica back to Bled, like www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=118Ed6wqOVJRKXTprjkwS1T-RG1M&hl=sl&ll=46.3253034940455%2C14.026521500000024&z=12 as said for gravel go further to Hotel Center and down via Planinska koča na Uskovnici. For smaller tracks I don’t how to describe here and what profile you are . I am 54 and cycling recreational with very few Wats in my legs.
Gotta re-evalute those calorie numbers Chris :). 200W is about 750 kcal/hour (very easy pro training), 400W is 1500kcal (race hard mode). These numbers are +/- 10% depending on personal thermal efficiency.
A few factorts to consider most of which have been mentioned before: - The injury; 3 weeks on the road - No serious and focused altitude camps geared towards the tour, Chris how much do you think this makes of difference compared to this year, where he is doing multiple like the Jumbo did? Because if we look at the Jumbo riders, each time they do altitude camps it seem to X x their performance by quite a bit. - Changed physical trainer and thereby the way he trained over the winter and towards the tour. - Changed his programming to be more tailored towards the tour/GC, the giro combo is interesting thou how that is going to affect the tour. - The last point cannot be stated enough and I think it is actually understated in the current conversation. This is the first year where Tadej isn't in the white jersey. Let that sink in for a moment. Ofcourse the landscape changes in regards to how fast new riders get up to speed, we seen that with Tadej no doubt. But if look at any kind of ultra endurance sport, almost everyone (with exceptions ofcourse) peak much much later, especially when it comes to building up peak work capacity. This means Tadej has still ton of room for development, especially when it comes to reserves in week 3. This obviously needs to looked upon in the context of the rest and not insolation as Tadej's main rivals are also below their peak years theoretically speaking like Jonas. So Jonas will most likely also keep developing for quite some years, which we have seen the last two years as well I am not trying to make any conclusion of who is a better GC, they are almost equally so far, but trying to contextualize last year a bit.. What do you guys think?
Are you gonna do a full Giro preview this week? As someone new to following pro cycling, I’d love to hear a full breakdown of your first and second page riders.
Strangely enough in Stage 17 of the 2023 Tour de France, Tadej said he had overeaten, and his body wasn't processing the fuel, and his muscles felt empty
@@iacobogallus2110 Not necessarily too much water, most likely not enough electrolytes. If you have an electrolyte imbalance, you won't absorb fluids or food .
There was one point in last year's Tour i.e. the Joux Plane stage, where Pog failed to pick up a bidon at the start of the climb and was visibly unhappy. When he made his attack on that stage later, he was initially able to put a gap into Jonas, but then ran out of energy and allowed Jonas to come back to him.
It just seems more that Jonas has a slightly higher base output and Pogacar more explosive one. When Pog made that gap on Joux Plane, he used his explosiveness to do so. However this isn't sustainable long term and once they had to drop back in base pacing that they could keep up longer term, Jonas just was slightly better at that, thus slowly closing the gap on Pog.
Hi Chris, wanted to ask your opinion on the improved performance of ag2r this season. What would you attribute the reason to be? Van Rysel bikes better than BMC ? ;)
Way back in the day I remember starving our bodies for days then “carbo loading” (with pasta) so we wouldn’t “bonk”. We were even told to not drink so we wouldn’t “cramp”. Calories
Awesome content and topics. Now I am hyped for next Saturday. But I don't envision anyone attacking him in Italy the way it was in France but as we learned in 3 weeks anything can happen. Kinda mad they put Stelvio early on that stage 16...will they even have it on TV. Mars bars and Fanta diet for Pogi.😂
It is amazing that people comment about what must a rider do or not but for me who ever is the rider, I love to watch these races and is happy for the person if they do good or bad aslong they did there best I do have favorites and of course a Favourite but if he or she doesn't win, I still support them if they ride in their limits and do their best Love watching this channel for its insight from a former rider and he knows what he is taking about he was around the block 🇿🇦 cycling fan
What about Hautacam that year? he also lost over a minute there, yes he crashed, but his numbers were pretty standard for that climb, he simply wasn’t strong enough against Jonas in heat + high Altitude
Calories in power out, not always that simple. You have to be able to process what you eat. We have historically seen that Jonas is more efficient on very high calorie days. Pogacar is trying, but I don't think his body can handle it the same way, that's what we see anyways (Ventoux, granon, hautacam, Marie Blanc, la Loze) Don't think you can factor the other riders and their times in too much on this stage, they had a very different run into that climb.
One thing about Tadej is he’s not good in the heat, in the Giro, without incident, he should be stellar, but The Tour, if it’s super hot? , a lot different imo. Love your videos you have excellent in-depth strategy info!
Always a chance I would imagine if pog wins both and his legs still feel after the TdF finishes and few weeks go by yet pog still feels good on the bike. If it’s me and im feeling good two weeks after the TdF finishes, then I’m going for the Tripple 🤔🤔💪🤞🔥🦋
I wonder sometimes why you would not have yourself, Bob Roll and CVV on the coverage. The difference perspectives would be excellent viewing. As for the Giro itself, it seems only Italy itself, or it's roads to be precise, stand between Pogacar and victory (Oropa on the 2nd stage? crazy stuff)
I wish Tadej all the luck for the Giro and hope he can keep the rubber side down. I just hope they have a moderate temp for the Tour. I don't think the Snowman likes the heat all that much.
depends what vingegaard does a) if vingegaard comes to tdf,vingegaard loosing 2 minutes in 3rd week,pogacar will think seriously to go in vuelta because vingegaard will gather some tiredness in his legs,not just pogacar b)if vingegaard comes to tdf,pogacar wins time in the first and second week against vingegaard and fails to win significant time in 3rd week,doesn't matter if pogacar wins tdf,he will know he can't beat a vingegaard that will be more stronger in vuelta c) if vingegaard skips tdf and pogacar wins giro-tdf,pogacar won't go to vuelta pogacar entering in vuelta with 2 big tours tiredness and vingegaard fresh,no chance for pogacar
@@universesays1842 I disagree with point three. If he does the Tour Giro double there will be huge pressure on Pog to do the Vuelta, to make a clean sweep. So there is a chance for it.
@@Flakey101 A fit Pogacar will always lose against a fit Vingegaard, that has become very obvious (Grand Tours).... It's not even needed to discuss this anymore... Thus if a fit Vingegaard start in the Vuelta and Pogacar is there to after a tyring Giro - Tour... Then Pogacar will finish on ten minutes from Jonas...
@@ChrisHornerCycling I noticed Alejandro Valverde recently did the Belgian Waffle Ride at 44 years old. He didn't win that race because he flatted. I was wondering if you can do a video sometime talking about racing at a high level past 40 years old. You should know. Thanks
There is something interesting though Team Ineos have 2 of the 3 riders in the race who Pogacar has to mark and instead of doing the usual Ineos thing and just sending a bunch of super-domestiques for the high mountains. They are sending: Fillipo Ganna the second best time-trialist in the world. Tobias Foss the third best time-trialist in the World. Magnus Sheffield the Youth time-trial champion. And their two GC contenders Geraint Thomas, Thymen Arensman who are superb time-trialists in there own right. This extremely unusual time trial focused team makes me think they are going to attack Pogacar on a flat or medium mountains stage with heavy crosswinds rather than a traditional high mountains stage. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
I think they will maybe try and make stages hard from the start / far out as that is usually where Pogacar has struggled (double Ventoux, 1-2 attacks on Galibier before Granon, Col de la Loze stage where Jumbo paced hard the entire day from the first climbs, Laruns stage where Hindley got into a dangerous breakaway and the pace was high for a lot of the stage.) Bearing that in mind, and the fact that with a relatively "weak" team Pogacar might be more easily isolated I would say the most likely stages for Ineos to try and cause an upset would be: 1.) Stage 15, climbs from near the start including the mortirolo on its easier side from relatively far out. 2.) Stage 16, climbs from the start and has the Stelvio early on, with all those versatile riders who can climb and are good time trialists they are in a good position in the long valley afterwards if they somehow dropped Pogacar. 3.) Stage 17, climbs all through the day even if they aren't really long steep and high altitude. 4.) Stage 20, make it hard from the first ascent of Monte Grappa. Realistically though I don't have faith in Ineos to actually do anything as they always seem to fall into old habits regarding their tactics even though they aren't heavy favourites. Crosswinds are a good shout though, they have been good in those historically.
Pogi was gesturing the eating movement in the valley after the galibier... Idk if he was saying that he is hungry, but at that time I thought he wanted to say that he ate a lot. Secondly, quintana was second bc he was on tramadol haha
If Tramadol worked that good I would not have sooo much of it here at my house. It’s great right after getting off of my dirt bike when I had been crashing often but it never did much to make me pedal faster. 🤔🦋👊
People are quick to forget Pogacar had a wrist injury last yr! so yes calorie deficit, but also, more importantly conditioning is lacking last yr.....Tadej is not that noob to go back to back TDF loses due to calories, and winning the tour x2 before and it is calorie issue on the 3rd and 4th tdf?? i find that hard to believe
I only talked about 2022 TdF on stage 11 bonk. I never said 2023. There was talk from Pogi himself saying in the 2023 TdF he ate to much and his stomach was not working correctly but I have never heard talk about lack of calories dur by ing 2023 TdF. 🤔🦋👍
The UAE medical team must have analyzed Pogacar's glucose levels under race level output, and have given him a calorie balance and a type of food that digests easily. I wonder, is it legal to have a glucose meter on the bike? They make them watch size. Other than food, Pogacar's biggest disaster would be a crash severe enough to put TDF out of reach. Hopefully he stays safe, and well fueled.
I believe it's illegal. I remember reading about how it was banned because UCI doesn't want any more tech to creep into sport, to keep it as mano-a-mano as possible. Imagine if they have glucose, oxygen meters, it will take those management off the hand of riders and put it in hand of technician offsite. As is, one of riders skill is knowing yourself
Not allowed, one of the women was even disqualified after finishing 3rd in Strade Bianche last year because she still had a (supposedly non-functional) glucose meter on that was used during training.
On a side note; what do you think about Isaac del Toro? He was trained by a friend of mine; here in Tucson. Lactose threshold training is the secret to his success.
So nice of the number one rider on the butterfly effect to confirm our host’s analysis of the 22TdF stage11 of what happened two years later. I remember Chris telling us too. NBC are a bunch of knuckleheads.
NBC literally wanted me to say that Jonas was the best in the world and even better than Pog thru out the 2023 TDF. I told them I would not say that. They said why? I said because he isn’t. Pog is. 🤪🦋👊🦚
Because it is easy to analyze in hindsight. At that time not riding after Roglic might have turned out just as catastrophic. Yes, Roglic fell early on, but at that moment we didn't know yet if he was able to recover from that or not. Yes, he was 2' behind. However if he clawed back one 1-2' that stage, suddenly he's back in contention. And what then if Jumbo tried the same tactics in the next mountain stage? And the one after that? Unless Pog knew his team was strong enough to limit Roglic to a small margin (which is difficult since his team was nowhere to be spotted at that moment and team communication probably bad too with the field blown up all over) or he knew Roglic wouldn't recover from his crash, best thing might actually be to just show that this tactic doesn't work, or even to try to outright counter it and see how Roglic and Jonas react to that. At that moment in the race, there was no easy choice, every choice hold inherent risk. Was he tactically flawless? No, but that is also extremely difficult to be.
@@MDP1702 yeah, but it was suicide to try and go solo from there, imo just let him go, he cannot go solo for that long, he aint MVDP xD I see your point tho
Still wondering why Tadej had KT Tape on his abdominal muscles last year when he bonked. Snow like 1988 would be epic! Someone would need to channel their Andy Hampsten.
After the one day races sometimes there pops up advertisements of uae`s nutrition sponsors listing what pog was eating all day...having done the calculation it turns out he eats about 80gr of carbs/hr..seems not that much for those hard 6hr races..always wondered if thats realy everything he ate but looks like theyy posted the truth :D
I was thinking the same thing. We got a sprinter filled list and they better learn to climb a little bit. But at least it’s a soft climbing Giro this year. Well, maybe last year was soft and this year not bad. 😂👊🦋🗻
Tadej will probably win the giro by stage 15. Just hope overall it is still an exciting giro. Just can’t see any other rider coming close to even challenging Tadej. Really looking forward to how lipowitz and Martinez does
The rate at which the blood sugar drops is what hurts more than your current blood sugar level, it's science fact. That's why all those attacks from Roglic and Vingegaard stuck. They stuck and were just as clingy as I am clingy to my waifu. We are never seen not together.I can be in a coffee shop in the most crowded area in downtown San Diego and I will be with my body pillow of my waifu taped to my back.
Very good question. Z135 is the most correct here “They never give a reason to the person they fire”. Their words not mine. But if I would to take a guess I would say that I don’t bend on my view of the racing and I don’t like to be asked repeatedly to bend. Other possibilities is Bob and I are clearly not friends, or he would have easily remembered during Sepp’s victory last year that the US had a previous winner 10years before Sepp who worked along side Bob at NBC even. But I’m just guessing here cause it could be a simple as I don’t have a full head of hair. 😂🦋👊🦚
Not sure how many days Merckx held the pink jersey in his heyday…….but maybe Pogacar could hold it as long as the Cannibal. Now THAT would be saying something!!
Only 4 riders have managed to hold the pink jersey from the 1st to the last stage : Girardengo, Binda, Merckx and Bugno. Gianni Bugno is one the most underrated Italian cyclists, he won the Giro, did podium at the Tour and was 2x world champion and also won Flanders and Sanremo. What a rider!
Hehehe. Bob is no longer safe now that I have to watch Peacock and he forgot who the first US winner of the Tour of Spain is, so he better dot i’s and cross T’s when he’s live during the TdF or I’m going to have a field day and make up a special Bob segment and throw in some Christian just for fun. There is a Patreon link below the video. Thanks 🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingthose two goofs(bobke and christian), calling pogacar the greatest cyclist ever was pure network glop. How disrespectful of Eddy Merckx and a number of others in history. The field as a whole nowadays seems to be weaker than past eras. Those two pogacar fanboys got a little too wired up for their network ratings at LBL.
I listened to the Roadman pod cast when he interviewed Alex Dowset, an ex world tour pro, talking about teams not valuing experience anymore. Some of the numbers these pros are putting out is mind bending. But as you constantly point out tactically there are loads of "knuckle head" moves. Do you think the DSs should be stronger with their teams, as it is easier to see the wood from the trees, or teams need an older wiser head on the road road, just to say to these younger guys, "let him go, he's no threat" or "just sit on his f@#kin' wheel, you won't win the tour today, but you could throw it away"? These lad basically bare knuckle fight the whole time, great for us on the "chesterfield" but dumb racing at times. Please don't misunderstanding me, I am in awe at the strength of these riders and unlike Lance Armstrong I admire their mutual respect for one and other and friendships off the bike. I enjoy your work, thank you.
I wouldn't be surprised if, in some distant future, there are stages where Fit Jonas just blows his gasket. Hey, even the fittest among us have their moments, right? It's all part of the drama and excitement of the cycling world!
@@philipb.1950 It wasn't three times, but two times, and it only occurred at the last two Tour de France editions. Jonas was fortunate that it happened, but he still emerged victorious. I could also remind you that Jonas got dropped by Pog not just twice, but three times at Paris-Nice, Il Lombardia, Tirreno-Adriatico, and the UAE Tour. I won't use '20 and '21 results from TDF because it's not fair to Jonas. Pog is the best rider in the world for a reason, and to prove it, he not only wins everything he enters but also earns more, making even Jonas jealous. 🤣😆😆
@@philipb.1950 Granon was bad I have to admit it, but it was 2 against 1. That said, no excuses. Ventoux 2021? Didn't Vingegaard clocked the same time as Pogi and Van Aert wont the stage? What are you taling about? Pog was certainly not crashed by Jonas, unless hanging with him you consider a vicotry.
thing is that even poggi can't be in 2 places at the same time... he can't simply cover 2 attacks ... even if you feed twice the amount of carbs or fuel is not enough to duplicate your effort YES CH was right it was obviously bonk but it was not one day race it was Le Tour and it was mid race ... ergo he can't do any and no one can in that position.
Exactly. Simple put the bonk was a big mistake but there soooo many mistakes made from the whole team pogi was stacking the deck against him thru out the stage. I loved covering that ‘22 TdF and did 3 videos specifically on it where I went deep into stage 11. 👊🦋
We’re back baby! Probably 5th or 6th Edit: I feel bad for LAB they signed on as a sponsor with an almost guarantee of winning at least one or two GT and then all their best ppl get injured
It's not fair to say 'Erase' what Jumbo-Visma did in 2023. Let's make it 'Forget'. To be honest I hope that every tour this year is won by a different team, just for the feeling of competition.
Number in the break away. Pog even did the spon to the mouth move his self. Pog. Is not going to have any issues winning the Giro. His top competitors are all injured and its the same with the TDF. Pog is the only one that can beat Pog.
Chris, I started watching CZcams channel a couple of years ago. I love your analysis. I am sad though that you don't seem to cover women's cycling. Why cover older stories rather than the more recent Women's Vuelta?
Chris, everybody has a weakness, right? Even Achilles had one, and he didn't even have a bike to worry about! So, according to Christian from NBC, Pogačar just needs to casually light up those first few stages, snatch a few minutes here and there, and then he can just coast through the Giro like it's a stroll in the park on a lazy Sunday afternoon. I mean, who needs to worry about pushing themselves too hard in one of the toughest cycling races out there, right? Oh, but let's not forget to remind him to pack his snacks and avoid the dreaded bonk-because we definitely wouldn't want the mighty Pogačar reduced to a hangry mess on the side of the road! And as for Remco Roglič and Jonas, well, let's hope they're healing and practicing for the big showdown at the TDF. I mean, missing out on witnessing the clash of these titans would be like forgetting to lube your chain before a muddy ride-absolutely catastrophic!
Quotes. Adhemar : And how would you beat him? Retired Knight : With a stick. While he slept. A Knight's Tale (2001) - David Sterne as Retired Knight -😂
Yeah, I agree. Roglic and Remco seem like pretty equal rivals. Roglic is a better climber but Remco can win solo. Tadej and Vinnie are absolutely next level and Roglic and Remco really don't stand a chance with either of them in the race
Chris I know that you are not very impressed with Jonas, and you always have some kind of excuse for Tadej whenever he loses. But IF Jonas wins TDF this year, after coming back from such a crash, can you please admit that Jonas is the better grand tour rider?
If you're in the mood for a podcast that's basically a Jonas fan club meeting, then the Cycling Dane podcast is your one-way ticket to euphoria. They probably have Jonas-shaped pillows and everything!
@@kkryspineveryone calling pogi the better climber is out of his mind, ofc this can change in the future but for know Jonas is by far the best climber of this peloton
@@kkryspin That's right. He is more consistent in the grand tours. So I think my request "can you please admit that Jonas is the better grand tour rider" is totally valid. And you just proved it yourself with your own comment lol :D
How do you explain Vingegaard dropping Pogacar on Hautacam in 2022? Vingegaard was just better that tour, pogacar was destroyed by the good teamwork of jumbo-visma
They forget sometime also. Really, I’m not joking. Or they remembered many times but then forgot to say it again at the exact moment when the rider needed to be reminded again. 😂🦋👊🍫🥤🍔
I read that article and thought:
- ain't no way Tadej is treated like just another rider on the team
-Horner said it was calories years ago and even brought props (Snickers and Coke) to demonstrate his point 🛋️🦋
Exactly. No way they are all even. But it’s funny that they try to make us believe it. Much like Jumbo’s bus slogan “Win Together” while it’s the teammates attacking each other at last years Vuelta. 🇪🇸😂🦋👊🤪
Me: I don’t understand what happened to my 6 pack.
My partner: It’s just calories.
😂👊🦋
Tadej Pogacar said it himself in the post-interview after he got dropped at the Tour De France 2023 stage 17, Quote: "It's like, I tried to eat as much as possible but it was like, nothing goes into my legs, everything just stays in my stomach"
If you look up "Jay Vine Reveals How Jonas Vingegaard Broke Pogacar". Pogi's team mate Jay Vine breaks down what happened with the TSS and Pogi cracking in that tour
I remember both those statements. And do believe Pogi had something very badly off. Jay Vine I don’t agree with at all how he explained it. 🤔🦋👍
@@ChrisHornerCycling he looked like he had some poisoning
They made him burn his matches. Once you dig into muscle glycogen stores it's too late. That's why they try to stay at 120grams an hour to not dig into muscle glycigen at all 😅
@@rybsy I found that very interesting and made a lot of sense.
When Pogacar said he felt like he was overeating and the energy wasn’t getting into the legs, that doesn’t mean he was good on calories. What people might not realize about bonking is that when you hit that wall you’re DONE and the body doesn’t start to recover until you’ve stopped your effort. That’s why timing your calories is just as important as having enough for the day. When you look at Pogacar’s bonk, he did not get the calories at the right time and allowed himself to ride past the limit. Once he was that deep in the red, it wouldn’t have mattered how many calories he tried to take at that point since the body already transitioned to self-preservation mode.
Fructose goes into the blood as glucose which can be used as energy almost instantly, though...
If you are on the right diet and/or trained properly to burn ketones instead of glucose, bonking can be very minimal and last only seconds to a few minutes.
A few minutes means you're dropped though. As previous post stated, its timing.
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@@DR_1_1 And ketones are even more plentiful if you have trained yourself properly and better yet, if you are on the right diet. And, I don't mean ketone supplements.
Whats the over/under on how many times Chris says his favorite 2 words in the whole world "Tadej Pogacar" over the next 4 weeks. Maybe a million!!
Is “my man, Victor Campenaerts” riding the Giro? Maybe we’ll get a TP reprieve. 🤣 Tadej is inevitable! 👊🏻 🦋
I would much much prefer Chris’ somewhat repetitive language to that of Sean Kelly. Whenever it’s his turn to speak, he simply cannot start talking without preceding everything with, “Yes, well……”. Every stinkin time he starts talking, “Yes, well….”. The fiftieth time I hear it in one stage, I’m ready to pull my hair out. Unprofessional! Sorry, now you’ll never be able to listen to him without hear it also. 😂😂😂
Better go with a big number to be safe. And sadly my man Vic is not going to the giro but he will be at the TdF. 🥲🦋👊
@@jymtymyes,well,unfortunately Chris hasn't much hair left to pull out. What's the guy to do?
@@jymtymwhatever.....stop your bitchin' and whining
Excellent commentary as always! I’ve learned so much about bicycle racing from watching Chris 🤛😁😉
Brilliant video, as always Chris!
As Slovenian as somebody who are almost neighbor (5km to both of them) . I prefer Roglič (as he is elder, and he doesnt have many years in front of him) but also Pogi is super nice guy. Pogi will be top for years .. on local uphill he passed my wife on her 250W electric bike like super car.
Heheheh. Yep. It’s crazy how fast he can go uphill. 😂🦋👊🏎️
We’re headed to Bled for a while this summer - have a beautiful bike lined up for some great rides. Avid rider, love to climb… any recommendations? Researching on strava as well.
@@Bill-cy2cy Lots of routes on Komoot, but honestly that whole area is really nice, you almost can not go wrong.
When you will be on Bled? And for how long? i can give you some sugestions or I can guide you to some tours around. I will be there all summer so you are weelcome to coffe or beer after ride. I have house in center just 5 min walk to lake. I suggest you also travel with train to Soča valey with bike on train.
To @Bill-cy2cy
Bled is very touristic place and rather packed, because is just a small Alpine town around the lake. Unfortunately last year they started to build a new road, which will bypass the traffic around the town, but construction work is still ongoing and officials are warning us about traffic jams. But Bled is very nice place indeed. Simply from touristic side for walk around or few km beside there are place like Soteska Vingard (a gorge some 4km away you will need to book the tickets before over the internet), Bohinj (another lake and surrounded by hills 20km), for the rest just check the internet or ask Tourist office. About the biking? Myself I am having hardtail and my idea is going Up .. roads, gravel: for that kind .. around Bled is Pokljuka (towards biathlon center) and down to Bohinj via Uskovnica back to Bled, like
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as said for gravel go further to Hotel Center and down via Planinska koča na Uskovnici.
For smaller tracks I don’t how to describe here and what profile you are . I am 54 and cycling recreational with very few Wats in my legs.
Great video, thanks.
Gotta re-evalute those calorie numbers Chris :). 200W is about 750 kcal/hour (very easy pro training), 400W is 1500kcal (race hard mode). These numbers are +/- 10% depending on personal thermal efficiency.
Great show Chris, yeah you know your shit!!
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A few factorts to consider most of which have been mentioned before:
- The injury; 3 weeks on the road
- No serious and focused altitude camps geared towards the tour, Chris how much do you think this makes of difference compared to this year, where he is doing multiple like the Jumbo did? Because if we look at the Jumbo riders, each time they do altitude camps it seem to X x their performance by quite a bit.
- Changed physical trainer and thereby the way he trained over the winter and towards the tour.
- Changed his programming to be more tailored towards the tour/GC, the giro combo is interesting thou how that is going to affect the tour.
- The last point cannot be stated enough and I think it is actually understated in the current conversation. This is the first year where Tadej isn't in the white jersey. Let that sink in for a moment. Ofcourse the landscape changes in regards to how fast new riders get up to speed, we seen that with Tadej no doubt. But if look at any kind of ultra endurance sport, almost everyone (with exceptions ofcourse) peak much much later, especially when it comes to building up peak work capacity. This means Tadej has still ton of room for development, especially when it comes to reserves in week 3. This obviously needs to looked upon in the context of the rest and not insolation as Tadej's main rivals are also below their peak years theoretically speaking like Jonas. So Jonas will most likely also keep developing for quite some years, which we have seen the last two years as well
I am not trying to make any conclusion of who is a better GC, they are almost equally so far, but trying to contextualize last year a bit..
What do you guys think?
Are you gonna do a full Giro preview this week? As someone new to following pro cycling, I’d love to hear a full breakdown of your first and second page riders.
Thanks, Chris!
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Did they not provide you with a Chesterfield in the booth at NBC?!?! 😬🤦♂️🤷♂️😱
Strangely enough in Stage 17 of the 2023 Tour de France, Tadej said he had overeaten, and his body wasn't processing the fuel, and his muscles felt empty
I remember that. And I don’t agree with that. But he certainly said it. 🤔🦋
He said he ate, but belly did not take up the food...he simply got sick... too much water on those hot days...
@@iacobogallus2110 Not necessarily too much water, most likely not enough electrolytes. If you have an electrolyte imbalance, you won't absorb fluids or food .
There was one point in last year's Tour i.e. the Joux Plane stage, where Pog failed to pick up a bidon at the start of the climb and was visibly unhappy. When he made his attack on that stage later, he was initially able to put a gap into Jonas, but then ran out of energy and allowed Jonas to come back to him.
He didn’t run out of energy, he simply wasn’t strong enough to drop Jonas after the initial acceleration
It just seems more that Jonas has a slightly higher base output and Pogacar more explosive one. When Pog made that gap on Joux Plane, he used his explosiveness to do so. However this isn't sustainable long term and once they had to drop back in base pacing that they could keep up longer term, Jonas just was slightly better at that, thus slowly closing the gap on Pog.
Hi Chris, wanted to ask your opinion on the improved performance of ag2r this season. What would you attribute the reason to be? Van Rysel bikes better than BMC ? ;)
Way back in the day I remember starving our bodies for days then “carbo loading” (with pasta) so we wouldn’t “bonk”. We were even told to not drink so we wouldn’t “cramp”. Calories
Tadej only has one weakness: heat. Tadej
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Awesome content and topics. Now I am hyped for next Saturday. But I don't envision anyone attacking him in Italy the way it was in France but as we learned in 3 weeks anything can happen. Kinda mad they put Stelvio early on that stage 16...will they even have it on TV. Mars bars and Fanta diet for Pogi.😂
I believe we get all day coverage with the Giro. 👊🦋🔥👊🤞
It is amazing that people comment about what must a rider do or not but for me who ever is the rider, I love to watch these races and is happy for the person if they do good or bad aslong they did there best I do have favorites and of course a Favourite but if he or she doesn't win, I still support them if they ride in their limits and do their best
Love watching this channel for its insight from a former rider and he knows what he is taking about he was around the block
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Thanks. I agree with you. I love watching other riders win also. I just really appreciate when there was a good battle during the race. 👊🤔👊👍🦋
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What about Hautacam that year? he also lost over a minute there, yes he crashed, but his numbers were pretty standard for that climb, he simply wasn’t strong enough against Jonas in heat + high Altitude
Calories in power out, not always that simple. You have to be able to process what you eat. We have historically seen that Jonas is more efficient on very high calorie days. Pogacar is trying, but I don't think his body can handle it the same way, that's what we see anyways (Ventoux, granon, hautacam, Marie Blanc, la Loze)
Don't think you can factor the other riders and their times in too much on this stage, they had a very different run into that climb.
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what about col de la loze stage?
One thing about Tadej is he’s not good in the heat, in the Giro, without incident, he should be stellar, but The Tour, if it’s super hot? , a lot different imo.
Love your videos you have excellent in-depth strategy info!
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Double is a real stretch. Lots of miles. It’s found to be great. Can’t wait for next week.
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Is there a chance Pogi gets a lead and goes into basically "this is a training block" mode for the TDF?
Chris, any chance Tadej rides the Vuelta too? Or would the team have already outlined a different guy to get behind for GC and what not?
Always a chance I would imagine if pog wins both and his legs still feel after the TdF finishes and few weeks go by yet pog still feels good on the bike. If it’s me and im feeling good two weeks after the TdF finishes, then I’m going for the Tripple 🤔🤔💪🤞🔥🦋
Hunger flat yes but TJV made that happen by riding extremely hard from Stage 1 of the TdF that year. I hope things go well. I am a Pogačar fan.
I wonder sometimes why you would not have yourself, Bob Roll and CVV on the coverage. The difference perspectives would be excellent viewing. As for the Giro itself, it seems only Italy itself, or it's roads to be precise, stand between Pogacar and victory (Oropa on the 2nd stage? crazy stuff)
Bob Roll is scared of Horner. He hears Horner's name, and he starts swatting away imaginary bees 😅
Request for coverage of the Vuelta going on now! Thanks
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What could possibly go wrong?!
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I wish Tadej all the luck for the Giro and hope he can keep the rubber side down.
I just hope they have a moderate temp for the Tour.
I don't think the Snowman likes the heat all that much.
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If he doubles up on the giro and the tour how strongly does he consider the vuelta?
If anyone could top the jumbo sweep it would be TP
Would the triple hurt his 2025 season?
depends what vingegaard does
a) if vingegaard comes to tdf,vingegaard loosing 2 minutes in 3rd week,pogacar will think seriously to go in vuelta because vingegaard will gather some tiredness in his legs,not just pogacar
b)if vingegaard comes to tdf,pogacar wins time in the first and second week against vingegaard and fails to win significant time in 3rd week,doesn't matter if pogacar wins tdf,he will know he can't beat a vingegaard that will be more stronger in vuelta
c) if vingegaard skips tdf and pogacar wins giro-tdf,pogacar won't go to vuelta
pogacar entering in vuelta with 2 big tours tiredness and vingegaard fresh,no chance for pogacar
@@universesays1842 I disagree with point three. If he does the Tour Giro double there will be huge pressure on Pog to do the Vuelta, to make a clean sweep. So there is a chance for it.
@@Flakey101 A fit Pogacar will always lose against a fit Vingegaard, that has become very obvious (Grand Tours).... It's not even needed to discuss this anymore... Thus if a fit Vingegaard start in the Vuelta and Pogacar is there to after a tyring Giro - Tour... Then Pogacar will finish on ten minutes from Jonas...
Soooooo goooood Chris! Magical analysis.
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@@ChrisHornerCycling I noticed Alejandro Valverde recently did the Belgian Waffle Ride at 44 years old. He didn't win that race because he flatted. I was wondering if you can do a video sometime talking about racing at a high level past 40 years old. You should know. Thanks
There is something interesting though Team Ineos have 2 of the 3 riders in the race who Pogacar has to mark and instead of doing the usual Ineos thing and just sending a bunch of super-domestiques for the high mountains.
They are sending: Fillipo Ganna the second best time-trialist in the world.
Tobias Foss the third best time-trialist in the World.
Magnus Sheffield the Youth time-trial champion.
And their two GC contenders Geraint Thomas, Thymen Arensman who are superb time-trialists in there own right.
This extremely unusual time trial focused team makes me think they are going to attack Pogacar on a flat or medium mountains stage with heavy crosswinds rather than a traditional high mountains stage. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
I think they will maybe try and make stages hard from the start / far out as that is usually where Pogacar has struggled (double Ventoux, 1-2 attacks on Galibier before Granon, Col de la Loze stage where Jumbo paced hard the entire day from the first climbs, Laruns stage where Hindley got into a dangerous breakaway and the pace was high for a lot of the stage.)
Bearing that in mind, and the fact that with a relatively "weak" team Pogacar might be more easily isolated I would say the most likely stages for Ineos to try and cause an upset would be:
1.) Stage 15, climbs from near the start including the mortirolo on its easier side from relatively far out.
2.) Stage 16, climbs from the start and has the Stelvio early on, with all those versatile riders who can climb and are good time trialists they are in a good position in the long valley afterwards if they somehow dropped Pogacar.
3.) Stage 17, climbs all through the day even if they aren't really long steep and high altitude.
4.) Stage 20, make it hard from the first ascent of Monte Grappa.
Realistically though I don't have faith in Ineos to actually do anything as they always seem to fall into old habits regarding their tactics even though they aren't heavy favourites. Crosswinds are a good shout though, they have been good in those historically.
Pogi was gesturing the eating movement in the valley after the galibier... Idk if he was saying that he is hungry, but at that time I thought he wanted to say that he ate a lot.
Secondly, quintana was second bc he was on tramadol haha
If Tramadol worked that good I would not have sooo much of it here at my house. It’s great right after getting off of my dirt bike when I had been crashing often but it never did much to make me pedal faster. 🤔🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling okay thanks for clarifying
Are you not commentating for NBC now?
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What about sepp Kuss?
People are quick to forget Pogacar had a wrist injury last yr! so yes calorie deficit, but also, more importantly conditioning is lacking last yr.....Tadej is not that noob to go back to back TDF loses due to calories, and winning the tour x2 before and it is calorie issue on the 3rd and 4th tdf?? i find that hard to believe
I only talked about 2022 TdF on stage 11 bonk. I never said 2023. There was talk from Pogi himself saying in the 2023 TdF he ate to much and his stomach was not working correctly but I have never heard talk about lack of calories dur by ing 2023 TdF. 🤔🦋👍
The UAE medical team must have analyzed Pogacar's glucose levels under race level output, and have given him a calorie balance and a type of food that digests easily. I wonder, is it legal to have a glucose meter on the bike? They make them watch size.
Other than food, Pogacar's biggest disaster would be a crash severe enough to put TDF out of reach. Hopefully he stays safe, and well fueled.
I believe it's illegal. I remember reading about how it was banned because UCI doesn't want any more tech to creep into sport, to keep it as mano-a-mano as possible. Imagine if they have glucose, oxygen meters, it will take those management off the hand of riders and put it in hand of technician offsite. As is, one of riders skill is knowing yourself
Not allowed
Not allowed. 👊🦋
Not allowed in racing but they can use them in training and learn how much he needs at a given output 💨
Not allowed, one of the women was even disqualified after finishing 3rd in Strade Bianche last year because she still had a (supposedly non-functional) glucose meter on that was used during training.
On a side note; what do you think about Isaac del Toro? He was trained by a friend of mine; here in Tucson. Lactose threshold training is the secret to his success.
Isaac's hematocrit is 43.
Is that where they see how much milk he can tolerate while riding?
@@rememberyourlight816My lactose threshold is world class
Every race he’s at that I have covered I have mentioned this kid because he is sooo good. 👊🦋💪
Thank you Chris for recognizing talent. Rudlofo is another one coming up from Mexico to keep an eye on. Love your analysis. The best.
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Chris why don't you do anymore commentary or analysis for NBC, Peacock or any of tbe broadcasters?
So nice of the number one rider on the butterfly effect to confirm our host’s analysis of the 22TdF stage11 of what happened two years later. I remember Chris telling us too. NBC are a bunch of knuckleheads.
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NBC literally wanted me to say that Jonas was the best in the world and even better than Pog thru out the 2023 TDF. I told them I would not say that. They said why? I said because he isn’t. Pog is. 🤪🦋👊🦚
I never got why Pogacar did not just let Roglic ride away solo, and just marked Vingegaard while waiting for his team mates to comeback.
Because sometimes his tactics are crap but it’s overshadowed by his physical ability.
@@chevyrydah04 haha true, he is a monster on a bike
Because it is easy to analyze in hindsight. At that time not riding after Roglic might have turned out just as catastrophic.
Yes, Roglic fell early on, but at that moment we didn't know yet if he was able to recover from that or not.
Yes, he was 2' behind. However if he clawed back one 1-2' that stage, suddenly he's back in contention. And what then if Jumbo tried the same tactics in the next mountain stage? And the one after that?
Unless Pog knew his team was strong enough to limit Roglic to a small margin (which is difficult since his team was nowhere to be spotted at that moment and team communication probably bad too with the field blown up all over) or he knew Roglic wouldn't recover from his crash, best thing might actually be to just show that this tactic doesn't work, or even to try to outright counter it and see how Roglic and Jonas react to that.
At that moment in the race, there was no easy choice, every choice hold inherent risk. Was he tactically flawless? No, but that is also extremely difficult to be.
@@MDP1702 yeah, but it was suicide to try and go solo from there, imo just let him go, he cannot go solo for that long, he aint MVDP xD I see your point tho
@@BrownDeluxe You do realize Jumbo had both Benoot and VA up the road, right? It wouldn't be a solo effort for long.
Still wondering why Tadej had KT Tape on his abdominal muscles last year when he bonked.
Snow like 1988 would be epic! Someone would need to channel their Andy Hampsten.
Chris, cool shirt !
After the one day races sometimes there pops up advertisements of uae`s nutrition sponsors listing what pog was eating all day...having done the calculation it turns out he eats about 80gr of carbs/hr..seems not that much for those hard 6hr races..always wondered if thats realy everything he ate but looks like theyy posted the truth :D
Seems to me it’s going to be difficult for the sprinters. The first week seems pretty hard for them.
I was thinking the same thing. We got a sprinter filled list and they better learn to climb a little bit. But at least it’s a soft climbing Giro this year. Well, maybe last year was soft and this year not bad. 😂👊🦋🗻
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Tadej will probably win the giro by stage 15. Just hope overall it is still an exciting giro. Just can’t see any other rider coming close to even challenging Tadej. Really looking forward to how lipowitz and Martinez does
Me too. 👊🦋
The rate at which the blood sugar drops is what hurts more than your current blood sugar level, it's science fact. That's why all those attacks from Roglic and Vingegaard stuck. They stuck and were just as clingy as I am clingy to my waifu. We are never seen not together.I can be in a coffee shop in the most crowded area in downtown San Diego and I will be with my body pillow of my waifu taped to my back.
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Why is Chris no longer on the NBC coverage?
They didn’t renew his contract, and didn’t give a reason
Because they did not want to have him outshine everyone else lol
@@secretagent86 I'm not sure of the actual reason, but saying they didn't want him to outshine everyone else is just ridiculous .
Very good question. Z135 is the most correct here “They never give a reason to the person they fire”. Their words not mine. But if I would to take a guess I would say that I don’t bend on my view of the racing and I don’t like to be asked repeatedly to bend. Other possibilities is Bob and I are clearly not friends, or he would have easily remembered during Sepp’s victory last year that the US had a previous winner 10years before Sepp who worked along side Bob at NBC even. But I’m just guessing here cause it could be a simple as I don’t have a full head of hair. 😂🦋👊🦚
All of Bob's has migrated to his face. Maybe that's the deciding factor 🤔
@ChrisHornerCycling - If he does win the double ... whats the chances he also goes to the Vuelta???
some folks say that lance armstrong was the strongest headed competitive american. no, has to be chris horner.
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Chris just can't help dishing out nougies to the NBC talent.
Hahahahahahahhahahaha
Listen to Horner.
Again….Chris is right.
You’re too generous calling them ‘talent’
He's still a bit sore after getting fired/ contract not renewed.
Cost some $$$
Not sure how many days Merckx held the pink jersey in his heyday…….but maybe Pogacar could hold it as long as the Cannibal. Now THAT would be saying something!!
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Yes, it would say that Tadej is going for the next best thing, because he can't win the TDF.
Only 4 riders have managed to hold the pink jersey from the 1st to the last stage : Girardengo, Binda, Merckx and Bugno. Gianni Bugno is one the most underrated Italian cyclists, he won the Giro, did podium at the Tour and was 2x world champion and also won Flanders and Sanremo. What a rider!
I love the systematic deconstruction of "bobs" theory. CH at his court-room best!
You got a patreon or venmo Chris? We need to pay you for this quality
Hehehe. Bob is no longer safe now that I have to watch Peacock and he forgot who the first US winner of the Tour of Spain is, so he better dot i’s and cross T’s when he’s live during the TdF or I’m going to have a field day and make up a special Bob segment and throw in some Christian just for fun. There is a Patreon link below the video. Thanks 🦋👊
All Bobke's memory cells are tied up in his Santa Claus beard
@@ChrisHornerCyclingthose two goofs(bobke and christian), calling pogacar the greatest cyclist ever was pure network glop. How disrespectful of Eddy Merckx and a number of others in history. The field as a whole nowadays seems to be weaker than past eras. Those two pogacar fanboys got a little too wired up for their network ratings at LBL.
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going full gas it's more like 1500kCal/h
…or maybe going for the trifecta.
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Remember when I mentioned that I thought Tadej had changed coaches ? 🙂.
Heard it hear first from you even. 🎧👂👊🦋
I listened to the Roadman pod cast when he interviewed Alex Dowset, an ex world tour pro, talking about teams not valuing experience anymore. Some of the numbers these pros are putting out is mind bending. But as you constantly point out tactically there are loads of "knuckle head" moves. Do you think the DSs should be stronger with their teams, as it is easier to see the wood from the trees, or teams need an older wiser head on the road road, just to say to these younger guys, "let him go, he's no threat" or "just sit on his f@#kin' wheel, you won't win the tour today, but you could throw it away"? These lad basically bare knuckle fight the whole time, great for us on the "chesterfield" but dumb racing at times.
Please don't misunderstanding me, I am in awe at the strength of these riders and unlike Lance Armstrong I admire their mutual respect for one and other and friendships off the bike.
I enjoy your work, thank you.
What about stage 17 last year where he blew?
I wouldn't be surprised if, in some distant future, there are stages where Fit Jonas just blows his gasket. Hey, even the fittest among us have their moments, right? It's all part of the drama and excitement of the cycling world!
@@kkryspinyeah and pogis thing is it to crack on every queen stage for the last 3 years, but for sure it’s just a random coincidence 😅
@@philipb.1950 It wasn't three times, but two times, and it only occurred at the last two Tour de France editions. Jonas was fortunate that it happened, but he still emerged victorious. I could also remind you that Jonas got dropped by Pog not just twice, but three times at Paris-Nice, Il Lombardia, Tirreno-Adriatico, and the UAE Tour. I won't use '20 and '21 results from TDF because it's not fair to Jonas. Pog is the best rider in the world for a reason, and to prove it, he not only wins everything he enters but also earns more, making even Jonas jealous. 🤣😆😆
@@kkryspin got dropped hard in ventoux 2021, granon 2022 and loze 2023 btw
@@philipb.1950 Granon was bad I have to admit it, but it was 2 against 1. That said, no excuses. Ventoux 2021? Didn't Vingegaard clocked the same time as Pogi and Van Aert wont the stage? What are you taling about? Pog was certainly not crashed by Jonas, unless hanging with him you consider a vicotry.
What will we hear from Christian and Bob about this? Crickets. :-)
I know the answer I think before even watching, his weakness is he wants to win EVERYTHING!
Nobody is even close to TP...the race is for 2nd...as will be the TDF...love your channel CH!
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thing is that even poggi can't be in 2 places at the same time... he can't simply cover 2 attacks ... even if you feed twice the amount of carbs or fuel is not enough to duplicate your effort YES CH was right it was obviously bonk but it was not one day race it was Le Tour and it was mid race ... ergo he can't do any and no one can in that position.
Exactly. Simple put the bonk was a big mistake but there soooo many mistakes made from the whole team pogi was stacking the deck against him thru out the stage. I loved covering that ‘22 TdF and did 3 videos specifically on it where I went deep into stage 11. 👊🦋
Wouldn’t pogacar be burning upwards of 1200cal an hour. On a usual training day I’m burning about 900-1000cal per hour
Pogacar: my weakness is in dieting too much food
Pogo's Mitochondria: 🤔🤨
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We’re back baby! Probably 5th or 6th
Edit: I feel bad for LAB they signed on as a sponsor with an almost guarantee of winning at least one or two GT and then all their best ppl get injured
Nice shirt, a man can't have too many shirts.
If Tadej wins the double ... who's to say he wont go for the Vuelta. Why not
If Tadej doesn't crash, he's winning the Giro
And no one will argue with you on that 💪🦋💪
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It's not fair to say 'Erase' what Jumbo-Visma did in 2023. Let's make it 'Forget'. To be honest I hope that every tour this year is won by a different team, just for the feeling of competition.
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Hypoglycemia attack, is one of the worst feelings you can have.
I agree Roglic has the same skills than Pogadcar
Number in the break away.
Pog even did the spon to the mouth move his self.
Pog. Is not going to have any issues winning the Giro. His top competitors are all injured and its the same with the TDF. Pog is the only one that can beat Pog.
Agreed the Giro will be setting the stage for an assault on the double for Pogi. Tons of sprinters to highlight the Giro. 👊🔥🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Seriously this giro will be snooze fest, I think 2nd 3d in GC will be a better spectacle .. 🙈🙈💵
Chris, I started watching CZcams channel a couple of years ago. I love your analysis.
I am sad though that you don't seem to cover women's cycling.
Why cover older stories rather than the more recent Women's Vuelta?
Chris, everybody has a weakness, right? Even Achilles had one, and he didn't even have a bike to worry about! So, according to Christian from NBC, Pogačar just needs to casually light up those first few stages, snatch a few minutes here and there, and then he can just coast through the Giro like it's a stroll in the park on a lazy Sunday afternoon. I mean, who needs to worry about pushing themselves too hard in one of the toughest cycling races out there, right? Oh, but let's not forget to remind him to pack his snacks and avoid the dreaded bonk-because we definitely wouldn't want the mighty Pogačar reduced to a hangry mess on the side of the road! And as for Remco Roglič and Jonas, well, let's hope they're healing and practicing for the big showdown at the TDF. I mean, missing out on witnessing the clash of these titans would be like forgetting to lube your chain before a muddy ride-absolutely catastrophic!
Let’s hope 🤞🔥🦋👊
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Primos is not equal to Pogacar.. No way .. not even close.
Yep. He is very close but he crashes often so it gets a little hidden sometimes. 😬🦋💪
Staying on his bike is definitely his major issue ("G" has the same problem). I will respectfully defer to you. But, we shall agree to disagree. ❤
Yeah, I agree. Roglic and Remco seem like pretty equal rivals. Roglic is a better climber but Remco can win solo. Tadej and Vinnie are absolutely next level and Roglic and Remco really don't stand a chance with either of them in the race
He probably doesn't even need to win stage one, just finish ahead of the other GC riders.
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Chris I know that you are not very impressed with Jonas, and you always have some kind of excuse for Tadej whenever he loses. But IF Jonas wins TDF this year, after coming back from such a crash, can you please admit that Jonas is the better grand tour rider?
If you're in the mood for a podcast that's basically a Jonas fan club meeting, then the Cycling Dane podcast is your one-way ticket to euphoria. They probably have Jonas-shaped pillows and everything!
@@kkryspineveryone calling pogi the better climber is out of his mind, ofc this can change in the future but for know Jonas is by far the best climber of this peloton
@@philipb.1950 Jonas was not better but more consistent in TDF and only there. Wait for this year and the next one.
@@kkryspin That's right. He is more consistent in the grand tours. So I think my request "can you please admit that Jonas is the better grand tour rider" is totally valid. And you just proved it yourself with your own comment lol :D
@@kkryspin jonas was by far better on stage 5,16 and 17 in 2023, pogi on the other hand was only marginally better on stage 6, 11, 13.
How do you explain Vingegaard dropping Pogacar on Hautacam in 2022? Vingegaard was just better that tour, pogacar was destroyed by the good teamwork of jumbo-visma
Tadej weakness is called Jonas, huge pain, by the way
Giro - Pogacar, Tour - Roglic , Vuelta - Vingegaard
Interesting, rog is my fave but I think he's least likely to get it. What about the triple?
All I really care is that the battle is epic. 🔥🦋👊
Noob question: can’t the car just keep reminding him to eat?
They forget sometime also. Really, I’m not joking. Or they remembered many times but then forgot to say it again at the exact moment when the rider needed to be reminded again. 😂🦋👊🍫🥤🍔
Calorie Pogačar
His weakness: 😂 doped to the sky. 150km race he breakaway @ 125km solo 😂 what a joke