This makes the last GM look SO bad
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2023
- I wanted to take a look at the Flyers offseason moves under Danny Briere, which seems to be undoing some of the past work of Chuck Fletcher. All that and more on today's NHL hockey video!
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Now if only Vancouver could finally accept the fact that 2011 was 12 years ago, then they'd finally make some real progress for once.
the management doesnt care about winning they just want to be decent enough to make money
Nothing will change unless the Aquas are forced to sell. That family is cancer.
That has more to do with Aquilini than any other single factor, so they're kind of fucked until he or his inheritors sell...
Vancouver still can't get over 1994, Mark Messier, or even the draft lottery in their expansion draft way back in 1970. That's a team and fans that can't let anything go.
Until aquilini is out nothing will happen
making chuck fletcher look bad is like putting a hat on a hat
It just makes sense?
Ong
I was going to say "shooting fish in a barrel" but yeah, you nailed it
im a lifelong flyers fan. chuck was singlehandedly the worst gm we ever had. and we have had some really bad gms.
After some of his trades and signings, there were people in the organization saying "I had nothing to do with it, I said it was a bad idea". That's BAD
Worse than Hextall?
Clarkes latter years, Holmgren, Hextall, Fletcher all have contributed mightily to the decades of mediocracy.
Chuck was the worse GM by miles……
Chuck was by far worse. Wasted picks and salary on past their prime players. He buried this team. Hextall at the very least got us out of cap hell, and brought in some much need draft picks. Danny Briere has his hand full. I just hope Comcast can show more patience with Danny than they did with Hexy.
Been a Flyers fan since like 1990. This ia the first time I've felt good about the direction of the team since like ... 2012. So excited for Wednesday.
As a Sabres fan I loved the Flyers last GM as we received a nice first round pick for Risto. So I say thank you...😂
Risto IS our best defenseman 😂
@@Mcburger644 and that's sad...lol
@scottstenlund4431 maybe but so far he's -176 which is staggering.
@scottstenlund4431 also I highly doubt anyone would give a first to Philly for Risto right now.
@@Mcburger644 Eh... advanced stats wise... all around, he'd be your third best and that's not saying much.
I don’t know how good Briere will be; but comparing anyone to Fletcher makes that guy look like a genius.
Briere was on some good Flyers teams. He knows what a good team looks like and what it takes to win in the playoffs. If he can bring that back to Philly he will be a great GM
Perfect way to put it
I do think Danny gonna do a good job he started with actually admitting we needed a rebuild which is good happens in every organization and the fact he's trying to undo what fletch did shows he never would have done what fletch did gives me the idea he has an idea what this team needs I respect it but only direction is up from here go flyers!!
I'm a Hurricanes fan, I liked DeAngelo, he was a good fit
Idk how you mentioned Detroit as bad. We literally had above 80 points last season and are pushing for a playoff spot in the next year or two
The keyword here was "hopeless", which WASN'T used to describe Detroit (for the reasons you mentionned). "Bad" here merely means not good, or like he said, unable to win a series. You can substitute "bad" for "mediocre" if you want, it doesn't necessarily mean absolute bottom of the league, just not in the top 1/4 or 1/3 of the league, which does describe Detroit (for now).
Won't win with an American as Captain.
As a wild fan I'm 0% surprised that the flyers are in the position after fletcher. It's going to be tough to dig out from him.
You guys had some tough years with him BG has been unreal given the cap implications
You guys had it tougher
Hawks fan here and philly is my second favorite, and I like what Briere is doing. Gotta get that prospect system built up, which it looks like they are doing pretty well. Another 3-4 years and they will probably be a pretty powerful team in the east. Maybe another Chi-Philly matchup in the next decade?
Love the vids
I love what Briere is doing
I’m scared about what briere is going to do with hart
As much as I love Hart you gotta get rid of him he gonna leave when his contract is up so I would like to get something for him maybe see if someone overpays that's good for us were nowhere near competing for a playoff spot
As a lifelong flyers fan, I'm good for them to try anything at this point. Just make the games enjoyable to watch, please.
Being a flyers fan is hard,very very hard.
Could be worse, could be a Oilers fan.
3 100 point players and only 6 playoff games won lol.
@@CS97660yeah that one is tough ngl at least you have the most exciting and best player in the leauge so your games are entertaining yall 1 great dman and a good goalie away though 💯
Briere sporting the Quagmire hair.
Moving sanheim is the most damning. Trying to avoid that contract even starting
He should've never been in the leauge fr fr he's a 3rd string dman on chi of he was there didn't deserve that contract at all
I’m a ducks fan but I’m gonna be rooting for the flyers during their rebuild too. Rebuilds can be kinda fun
Im a Habs fan, and after this years draft, i bet Philly is a contender before Montreal, who are already 2 or 3 years in on a rebuild. This year's draft hurt the Habs, they missed out big time on Ryan Leonard, or even Michkov.
Hurricanes fan here. Nah I’m good.
Kyrou is not leaving st louis.
Full rebuild is long overdue and will be tough to execute with so few assets of value.
I'm undecided about EVERYTHING! So coming from a EVERY TEAM FAN giving a team a new identity is a good thing! I like how J T scale back his temper in his older age! He's come far from the days as a Rangers coach and throwing a water bottle at the fans! LOL OUT OF CONTROL GONE! GOOD COACH GOT BETTER
Hope this puts an end to the "former flyers bad" narrative. You can find qualified professionals from any organization.
If I may, the narrative only exists because the organization would keep hiring mindsets that were out of touch. Bob Clarke boys club.
Daniel B, Patrick Sharp and even John LeClair have all played relatively recently so they understand the modern game better than their elders.
Convinced this only exists for the comment traffic
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse with Holmgren as your GM.......
0:05 kid has Saskatchewan roughriders hat on
Saskatchetoon eh
the new one hasn't shown much promise....
Wow I wasn’t expecting that random hurtful barb at Detroit but okay Eck I see how it is.
You’re right though, there is a future in Detroit.
As bad as the flyers have been, they haven't lowered ticket prices. $200+ for a box seat to see a trash team. Until they fix that, nothing they do matters.
Time for Briere to trade that haircut too
Give us as much pick as we want, we’re still gonna pick some nobodies
Avs legend
I miss good rivalry games like flyers vs rangers when the flyers where not a joke
Go flyers
Even the pens flyers rivalry I look forward to those games every year always such good games especially like 2010-2018
Flyers faithful here: The pain is real but its going where it should. Too much waiting and keeping the gang around leads to this. I do heavily criticize the concept of a Carter Hart trade due to the fact that I see flashback images of nobody taking young me seriously when I said "This young goalie we have right now is going to be the best in the league one day! You'll see" That goalie was Sergei Bobrovsky.............. Other than that? If they can prove they can manage this CORRECTLY with some reasonable results and not thrusting back into ANOTHER retool as soon as they get 1 good guy, go for it. Blow it up, make us good again. It had to happen many years ago now. Its going to hurt, but we need it.
Chuck fletcher hired tortorella, I rest my case
William Nylander for Carter Hart, you guys can sign Samsonov for 5 million
Deangolo didn't bow down to the alphabet people and flag, he must repent for years to come
I hate Chuck don't get me wrong, but I obsoletely loved TonyD and am sad to see him go. I'd have fired that dinosaur Torts before trading him. Torts was the problem. He doesn't know how to properly coach or deploy people
Tony D still on the team no official trade came about last time I checked carolina and Philly going back and fourth about retaining salary
I hope Chicago hires
Fletcher. I hate the Blackhawks
Yeah fuck the Hawks for covering up all that SA stuff
Hire him and don't draft Bedard 😂 I'd love that
@@collinduffield wouldn’t it be great if they somehow screw up the pick process (run out of time, wrong paperwork, etc)
And lose the pick! I’d be in heaven
Tony DeAngelo knows more about the city and the fan than anyone else in the organization. I think it's better to keep him around and let him work with the young guys
If Flyers faithful told you what we really think about Chuck Fletcher your video would be demonitized because of the comments lol
Picking Michkov was idiotic.
Nice to see it stripped down. Why go mediocre for a decade when you can sacrifice 2 years. Get young players and when you’re ready to compete sign some guys. It’s not rocket appliances
Well said.
lol...too funny. You think the Flyers will be competative in 3yrs. giggle...tehehee...SNORT!
@@shellysmith1037 you’re definitely right. They will most likely suck for 5 years but best case Ontario they can be competitive in 2 if they commit to no bad contacts on the books. I actually think Briere gets it
As a wild fan nobody can make Chuck Fletcher look bad. He does that himself.
I'm a Flyers fan and we're probably traded most of our "Big Guns" and it'll take time, but soon I'll realize that these trades are good forus.
Yup get rid of Hayes, Coots, TK, Laugton, just pick up mad prospects and draft capital and build!!!
I can see STL trading a 1st for Hayes. No way in hell is Kyrou leaving the Blues
Briere found a copy of the Yzerplan and is doing his best impression.
Trade everyone. Draft everyone. Hope a few stick.
yeah Yzerplan will be 12 yrs old and moving like a glacier....and they still missed playoffs
Carter Hart has to go. They can get a ton of picks for him, and it's not fair to him to have such a promising young goalie waste his prime years in a rebuild situation. Plus it'll take a toll on the confidence getting 40-50 shots a night and he'll be out of the league a lot sooner if he stays in Philly
day 170 of asking Eck for a jersey tierlist. (you said you will do it at 100k)
How come all your video titles are so negative??
Yeah, it gets old
Just drafted Michkov, finally some high end exciting prospects in the pipeline
Chuck was terrible and Briere seems to be taking us in the right direction. Most likely going to lose a lot of the household names or recognizable guys on the current roster, but if we can get good value in return, I'm all for it. We are no where near contention, so giving younger guys a chance and churning the roster a bit should be good for the future of the franchise.
YES!!! Gotta get rid of everyone you just gotta dive right in to this rebuild head first
The St. Louis deal was rumored to involve Kevin Hayes and supposedly was held up by a player with a no trade clause, so that list includes Binnington, Buchnevich, Faulk, Krug, Leddy, Parayko, Saad, Scandella (7-team no-trade list), or Schenn. I can't imagine any trade in which they give up Kyrou or Thomas.
Honestly have no idea why StL would want to trade ANY of those players for Hayes, but if I had to pick one it might be Brandon Saad. None of it makes sense to me really, since most of them are defensemen and 2-way forwards, and StL is really lacking in defensive depth.
Was reported Krug was the player holding the deal up
@@collinduffield Yeah, I heard that later. Makes me wonder why StL would want to do that since Krug is their solid PP QB, unless they were looking to Philly to retain salary on Hayes so they could go after Karlsson.
@@paulybeefs8588 so Krug I'm pretty sure is getting paid more than sanheim this coming year so I think it's a salary dumb move
@@collinduffield Sanheim? I thought it was Hayes Philly was moving?
@@paulybeefs8588 both of them
Eck says the Flyers are his favorite Rangers rival because he’s tired of them losing to the Devils constantly
I think briere is gonna be a disaster
Flyers are back
absolutely no shot st louis parts with kyrou, they're building their team around him and thomas
Well I’m a Rangers fan and I want every metro team except us, Columbus, and Carolina to be dumpster fires.
I am a penguins fans that lives in Nova Scotia but I do sometimes check on the flyers and will watch some of their games too. I think briere could be really good for them and getting rid of tony is a good start on the road for the team but to me it’s what will happen at the draft that will see what briere will do for the franchise and same could be said for Kyle dubas who’s in Pittsburgh. Also would like to your thoughts on the battle of Nova Scotia game that’s going to happen in October
As a Flyers fan I typically end every season placing my fandom on waivers until I reluctantly resign them to me for another season. With Danny B at the helm, I’m a lot less reluctant. He’s going to do good things for us.
Believe me, I’m well aware chuck fletcher is a trash GM.
No it doesn’t, Chuck Fletcher makes Chuck Fletcher look bad 😂
I would like to keep Sanheim. But I understand. Sell him while he's high I guess.
His value is low rn, terrible season
@@guybunchofnumbers123 comparatively to the teams record he played well. He was the best defenseman on the team. Out performing bigger names (Risto, Provorov, DeAngelo) he never turned the puck over. Played 20+ minutes a game. And kept the puck out of the net when bottom 6 forwards were on the ice.
@@Bird_814bro he's a terrible dman not worthy of the money he gonna get when that new contract hits he's a last pair dman on a decent roster maybe even a 7th dman scratched
@@Bird_814 I'm guessing you are Travis's Dad, thats fair you think he can but he is nothing like what you described. He takes stuuuuupid stick penalties at the worst times. He has NO head. He could not hold a candle to any of those guys you mentioned. In short, your kid has no hockey sense and little talent
The rebuild is like 1-2 years too late
Yeah it's annoying at least they finally doing it though
What about the red wings getting Debrincat from the Blackhawks.
What controversial things or actions has he done?
Apparently he a locker room problem also said some racist remarks before if I recall correctly
Briere is a better GM now than Fletcher ever was!!!! You have to look at your team and know when to acquire draft capital and when to acquire free agents... And the Flyers needed to do the former for 10 years now & I stopped caring and watching because they kept on the hamster wheel not learning that they needed to the latter (i.e REBUILD)... What a breathe of fresh air Briere has been coming in with the right mindset and strategy on how to right the ship the RIGHT WAY!!! They will be contenders in 3-5 years for sure with DANNY at the helm!!!
I'm a Devils fan living in Flyers territory, so I consider the Flyers to be a key Devils rival. That said, I'm glad to see DeAngelo out of Philadelphia. He's a disgrace, and the rivalry between NJ and PHI will be more fun to watch without him.
As A Flyers fan right across the river, I agree!
He still on the team though he didn't leave yet they shopping him around
Mate you’re giving flyers fans to much credit if you think they can read or write.
Lmao
Says the guy who doesn’t know the difference between to and too!🤦♂️
Philly tanking for Macklin Celebrini
Flyers are in a bad spot, stuck in mediocrity. Too good to tank, but the core not good enough to be better than a bubble team.
Now they have a tight cap table and a coach that doesn`t fit the core.
Hayes and Couturiers age doesn`t fit a deep rebuild (31 and 30) - Konecnys deal doesn`t fit a re build (2 more seasons) and the things don`t fit together in Philly.
Too good to tank? Hardly. They won 31 games and had the GF/GA of a 32-win team. This is actually better than 21-22. It's time for The Process.
Chuck tried making moves and they didn’t pan out. Just like Hextall tried drafting and developing home grown players. Let’s hope Briere’s moves make a positive impact or else he’ll just end up with the same fate as Chuck, Hextall, Holmgren, Clarke.. etc
Every minute Chuck Fletcher was in the GM seat the Flyers were set back 1 year
If briere can build a nice little prospect pool in the next 3 years, when michkov arrives, you could easily be looking at a playoff contender or better.
Tony DeAngelo should still be on the Rangers smh
i would like the pens/flyers rivalry to be re-ignited so this is Good News
I was super apprehensive about hiring Briere because the Flyers can't seem to get away from being a jobs program for former Flyers. Butttt he actually seems like he knows what he's doing. So I'll be a little optimistic
As a lifelong Flyers fan since the early 80’s, I can write a book on the mismanagement of this team over the past decade.
Don’t get me wrong, Fletcher is a terrible GM, but the problems go deeper than his incompetence.
Owner Ed Snider got Cancer around 2013 and that is when he really gave up control of the team. Comcast installed Dave Scott as the new CEO yet he was not a hockey guy. He and Valerie Camillo ran the whole organization into the ground.
He would never OK a rebuild so every offseason they would put these band aids and the DeAngelo signing was exhibit A. Even Hextall’s tenure was marred by this idea of rebuilding through the draft yet refusing to clean house so Giroux, Vorachek and Simmonds would be in their 30’s when they were ready to win again.
Briere is literally trying to clean house and I believe this team will look totally different the day after the draft. For the first time since I can remember they have a plan and building a young nucleus that will grow together. There’s no guarantees as every rebuild isn’t 100% successful in sports. But the Flyers organization was like an alcoholic who couldn’t admit they had a problem. We got past step #1 and Comcast cleaned House including the CEO. Now the next step is to rebuild this thing. I’m actually looking forward to a Flyers season for the first time in a decade even though it won’t happen overnight.
DeAngelo is good as a PP specialist defenseman, but he is also the most offensive right winger in the league.
I wish Montreal would try to get owen tippet, he can be a younger Josh Anderson.
He's gonna be our best player when this fire sale over with you can't have him 😂
grew up with Danny and his son Cameron. i remember when i was younger he talked ab how shitty the coaching was on the team and how badly he wanted to take over 😂😂😂 well would you look at that. he did it
first
No one cares
@@kasenkelly676you care enough to reply. Don't be a Dick.
He's making some moves? Did he push a wheelchair down some stairs?
It can be worse Philly... Sabres have been rebuilding since they let Briere walk while they were in good faith talks to re-sign Drury... 16 years later Darcy Reiger's vision is finally here haha
As long as him and Hayes are moved I'll be happy haha. No more lazy players and defensive liabilities.
How about Risto??
@@danevertt3210 he's so invisible on the ice I actually forgot about him lol
Half the moves GMs make in the off seasons are to try and undo trades that didn't work out.
Plus, Briere is a former Flyer.
Don't really want DeAngelo back as a canes fan lmao
As a long-time Flyers fan, Flutcher was the worst. Briere is at least trying to undo his mistakes and getting some worthy picks and players out of a bad situation we've been in the last few years.
Chuck was absolutely awful as an NHL GM. Briere is righting the ship slowly. And hopefully our new jerseys have great names on the back again soon
lol, no
As a flyer's fan, the team desperately needs a rebuild and I believe this is the best course of action to build for a successful team
Flyers signed Deangelo for 2x$5M? Holy cow that might be the dumbest signing of all time. This guy is a league minimum player with his baggage and only should be on a team with strong leadership that can keep him under control.
Fletcher should've been fired years ago. He saddled this team with some bad contracts from top to bottom. The Nicolas Deslauriers contract is the worst. Why pay for a 4th liner on a 4yr deal with a modified no trade clause. If this team was a contender sure but this deal made no sense last year.
Yeah that one was wild I really think the worst one is sanheim not a fan of the Hayes contract either
Dumping Torts would be the best move…
Chuck Fletcher is a generationally bad GM, ruined every team he's been a part of
Hoping D ends up in Columbus because him and Sean Avery are the only ones I’d be happy with getting kicked by their coach
Lots of trash he needs to get rid of. He at least seems to have the foresight on pinpointing those that need to be shipped of in a rebuild.
Chuck Fletcher was incompetent. Clearly leaned on the wrong people & the decisions show that. I’ll be honest, DeAngelo was a lowlight last season. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
DiAngelo was on a one year contract for 1 mill because the Canes were the only team willing to do even that. Fletcher made himself look bad by trading anything for him...
I love Danny - and for the first time in my 55+ years on this planet, I'm a supporter of the Flyers.