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The Many Origins of The Joker
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Joker 2019 brings us a brand new (ish) take on the classic Batman villain. It will explain and explain a new origin that borrows from some classic stories including The Killing Joke as well as elements of other stories like Batman 1989. So let's get into as many of his known origins as we can from the comics, the Heath Ledger Dark Knight version, the animated series and more. Thanks for watching.
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Joker was a failed CZcamsr that went insane after people started calling him Mr. Scumbag movies
4 out of 5
5/5
4/5
6 out of 5
mason out of james
Everyone knows the Joker’s real origin is that he was a Gamer injured in the console wars.
He was a true vet
5/5
4/5
Solid 4/5
Phil Ochs 4/5
What we need is an origin video on Corn of Coblin
5 Joy Buzzers out of 5, Good Sir!
Fist of Dante Media
5/5
I've got a dead horse you could beat if you'd like. 😅 Jk bro.
Laughs 6/8 weeks ago
Norman Oscorn sipped too much experimental Oscorn Corn syrups which drove him insane and became the iconic villain
I've always enjoyed "fell into a vat of chemicals and went crazy" for its comic book simplicity.
Is he motivated by past grievance? Nah, he fell in a vat.
Was he twisted by a long and complex life of trauma? Nah, he fell in vat.
Is he a reflection of some dark thread in modern society revealing that *we* are the true Jokers???.........Nah, he fell in vat.
He is a reflection of a dark thread in modern society revealing that *we* fell in a vat.
We live in a vat.
The real society was the vat we fell in along the way.
Good opinion. 4/5.
I like Heath Ledger's Joker, because you have no idea who he is or where he came from.
Really appreciate the 4/5 line lol. Tranquility Base!!
Men of taste.
And thats un heard of
this comment is 4/5
Fun Fact: Tranquility Base gets its name from the Sea of Tranquility on the Moon, the site where in July 1969 humans landed for the first time. Also, it's a great fuckin album
Ryan Leone hah neeeeerd
He's a multidimensional traveler and he goes crazy because no dimension finds his comedy funny.
pretty good 4/5
Theory: Corn of Goblin killed Jokers parents. After that Corn of Goblin ended Jokers comedian career. And now Joker is siking his revenge on Corn of Goblin!
Kris Raptor
5/5 Joy Buzzers
4/5
Good to see Corn of Coblin mentioned again
4/5 joker buzzers
4/5
That Pale Man shit doesn't really work for normal Joker, but for an alternative take, it's kind of amazing. The idea that he's more a spectre than a man - honestly, that really gave me the chills. I think the Joker can be _scary,_ sometimes, especially when you lean into the more violent aspects of his personality, but he's never _terrifying..._
"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice" - the Joker
The theory of the Dark Knight Joker being ex-military is really solid, other than what’s said in the video, he’s shown to have experience with explosives, mentions a “truck load of soldiers” that blows up to Harvey Dent, and he even says “I know squealers when I see them, and...” when he first meets the mob leaders, hinting he’s been apart of “enhanced interrogations”. Nolan’s Joker is probably an army vet who suffered from PTSD and he used the persona of the Joker to cope with the psychological pain.
Aidan Rogers
He was a Gamer injured in the console wars
Theory: Joker was originally a gangster that got ratted out by 6ix9ine....
Clowns are supposed to stick together, not stab each other in the back.
3/5
0/5
Reported
Mike Waggoner he is the *RED* Hood after all. Joker is a member of the Nine Trey 🅱️loods confirmed.
There was a cereal ad in an old Gamepro magazine where this kid is VERY angry about getting some plain Cheerio's or something and the kid's face suddenly cracks into a demented smile while his skin bleaches itself and his hair grows out quickly all green and shiny. It was terrifying. The idea that The Joker is just this unstoppable spirit of cereal madness that could seize hold of you at any moment, any age, haunts me to this day.
4/5
Wow, that's nearly worse than the Pale Man, Jesus Christ
No matter the origin, one thing is constant:
*SOCIETY*
Spitting facts right here
GAMERS RISE UP
We truly live in a society
4/5
And in Black Mirror; Society is a phone, just how much depends on the episode.
Just a guy who danced with the devil in the pale moonlight
I bet that The Joker has a post credits scene or ending where the Wayne’s die.
NoobMaster69
6/5 Joy Buzzers
I bet it’s gonna happen during the movie
Spoilers obviously but yep, no post credits scenes but it happens toward the end
Elmodonnell How is Batman’s origin story a spoiler?
There is no post credits scene, my friend. But it happens in the last 10 mins
My favorite answer to this question comes from Joker himself also in The Killing Joke where he tells Commissioner Gordon "If I'm going to have an origin story I prefer mine to be multiple choice". In my opinion that statement is the Joker in a nutshell
4/5 theory: Joker's wife Greg forces him to work out & dye his hair driving him to madness *all in good fun
4/5
Joker is best with no origin. It makes his entire existence a juxtapositional joke on Batman. Batman wears a mask, modulates his voice, and takes other extraneous actions to hide his identity. Despite this, many characters in including Robin, Alfred, and depending on the storyline, other select individuals in Gotham and the DC Universe know his secret identity. But the joker doesn't do that. The Joker wears no mask, no costume, The Joker presents himself as an open book. A man with no filter who does and says anything he wants. Yet we know nothing about him. The joke is that we know almost everything about Batman, despite his efforts to keep it concealed, and we know nothing about The Joker, despite his outward, unchained personality. When you give the Joker a definitive origin, that Joke on Batman is ruined. It's all part of their perfect duality.
I like that.
Humor aside this is always the best way to handle The Joker.
Whoever edits these is clearly an Arctic Monkeys fan.... I love it
Can we commend Mitch the editor here for the "but... both probably know a guy named Bob" sequence at 6:24 ?
Thank you!
Is it just me that always likes a mr sunday movies video before watching
Nope. Not just you.
Mason and James Australia's finest heros
A Clockwork Review
5/5 Origin
@@autismobinch135 thanks
My favorite is when Joker realized that we lived in a society
we do?
never loved a running joke in a video more than the AM 4/5 references
love it
Joker is a milk man who fell into a vat of school children
No he's a school bus driver who falls into VAT of milk
4/5
I think that the joker will do something bad
4/5
Everyone knows that Joker is bad
And he'll laugh. Maniacally.
Illuminati confirmed!
SPOILERS!!!!
Keep up the good work boys. You put a smile on my face!
This is an amalgamation of The Killing Joke, The King of Comedy, Taxi Driver and the Man who laughs to name a few.
Okay Raghu
With maybe bits of TDKR and maybe White Knight.
Raghu Seetharaman
5/5
@Comicstelling The Man who laughs starring Conrad Veidt. That's the basis of the Joker's laughter. Jerry Robinson based on the Joker's laughter from Conrad Veidt.
@@Brook11223 Except "The man who laughs" (1928) was a silent film! The _look_ of the Joker was definitely based on that film.
What if this Joker is and stay with me now...just a guy who turns crazy.
Ridiculous theory. 0/5
Unpossible
What if he's
a criminal who wears clown makeup?
terrible theory, doesn't make sense 4/5
But how does he turn crazy?
In the intro I loved the RakkaRakka bit lol!
8:19
"Where's the detonator!?"
"Uh, go get him!"
*bark* *bark*
Here's a Joker cinematic origin theory. Joaquin Phoenix is the original recipe Joker in the Snyderverse that ends up killing Jason Todd, then Ben Affleck's Batman kills Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, and he's Batman's first kill. Later on Jason Todd is resurrected in a chemical Lazurus pit, and Jason Todd becomes Jared Letos Joker.
You guys know about the three Jokers? One is the golden age, one the modern and one the killing joke, supposedly, I believe. So multiple of the origins you mentioned are possible. And that's definitely a 5/5. Shoot that's a 15/5 if I say so.
NathanButGame
3 jokers out of 5
7:25 It's like poetry, it rhymes
He's a playing card that escaped from the pack!
The Arctic Monkeys and Oasis references are really selling this video to me, cheers Mason.
Jerome, even when he never was the real joker his first joker like reaction gave me goosebumps.
I prefer the versions where Joker was originally just a normal guy rather than a former criminal/gangster. The idea that a normal person can just one day snap and become a maniacal psychopath is far more interesting than a criminal who decided to up the ante.
6:41 that is some underated editing, I dunno how u did it, but we'll done
For a future caravan of garbage video, could you two possibly cover whatever that Marvel comic is where characters from every Earth based superhero team get turned into Hulks? (I think it's called Fall of Hulks, Hulked Out Heroes and World War Hulks in some order. All I know for sure is it's when the identities of the Red Hulks are revealed).
This video's editing must've taken ages! So much work, well done to Mitch J Towers
Thanks, mate!
The fact that you threw in a shot of Racka Racka’s Ronald McDonald at the beginning makes me so happy
I like how you incorporated Romero's painted mustache as part of his character's insanity.
I like the version where he's an alien who is exiled from his planet for being too dangerous.
4/5
The joker was on a secluded island of only men, and was going home from the theatre after watching zorro one knight. He got into an accident and the only thing that could help him was a alien 'brotherbox' from a wizard. And when he shouts the word brotherbox he can find a dying alien who gave him a ring that has the will power to create an orgin story he wants. And he's a billionair that can breathe underwater.
He becomes the funniest man alive. 4/5
8:19 "Where's the detonator?!"
"Uh, get him."
“The Batman who laughs” would be my favorite
The thing i like about Heath Ledger’s Joker is that he has no cemented origins. Yes, there are theories, but it’s never explained in the movie. He’s a mystery, and that’s what gives him his aura and enigma
6:30 I remember either the Batcomputer or police files showed that animated Joker is also Jack Napier.
8:30 you telling me to skip to 9:11? I’ll tell you, Mr. Sunday Movies, it’s PC gone mad mate.
I like how Batman from 90s cartoons finds out about joker's alter life.
Just draw a red smile on him.
GREATEST DETECTIVE IN THE WORLD. just draw a smile on a picture of some guy and gasp it's the joker.
“If I have to have an origin… I prefer it to be multiple choice.”
The Joker is just an upright kanoo in a wig and things blow up around it purely by coincidence
4/5
This isn’t an origin, but my prediction is that Arthur Fleck dies at the end of Joker, but his effect on society is so big he inspires other people in the future to become The Joker. It would be a neat way of maybe tying this in with the new Batman movie we’re getting or, at the least, allowing any version of The Joker’s story to be true by saying its different people every time.
I think all the origin stories of the Joker are true, we just haven't put them all together.
Loving the arctic monkeys references on the channel lately
He used to be The Riddler but then my mum was all, "It's that guy, The Joker, or something." So he had to change his name
4/5
@@seanfinn1046 yessss
BATMAN 1989 is my favorite Origin. I personally like the idea of Batman and Joker unintentionally creating each other.
Killing Joke origin i like 2nd best if not equally.
It’s so much better when he doesn’t have a definitive origin.. i.e “The Dark Knight.” It would have made Heath Ledger’s Joker a lot less mysterious to the determent of the movie. BUT I’m excited to see if giving him an origin in this movie will make it a great character study. Can’t wait
Martha Wayne's my favorite.
Heather Ledgers Joker doing a kick flip over a downed Dark Knight.
You c**** are gold.
Editors note: I’m an Aussie so this is genuine affection rather than offensive admonition. 🇦🇺🥰
Joker from the animated series was Jack Napier too. I can't remember the episode but an Arkham guard mentions that Joker was once known as Jack Napier
Andy Kauffman never died. He just fell in a vat of chemicals and became the Joker in every cinematic and television depiction from now until the end of time.
Four out of five joybuzzers.
No one:
The Joker: *YA WANNA KNOW HOW I GOT THESE SCARS???*
Erik Copper
5/5
You two are skipping over the only real 5 out of 5. He was experimenting with a bunch of chemicals and failed, then Batman shows up and blows out the chemical spill. It causes the Joker to be bald and have that smile or some stuff... 5 out of 5
Lex just assume that’s the real theory and he’s not just some random unemployed luther. Batman must have some super lung capacity to blow out those chemicals, man.
I think you guys could have included the john doe joker from the batman telltale game
He was a force-sensitive youngling who survived the clone wars and got into Yoda's stash of drugs.
It’s funny because 5 seconds into the video they said “it’s most likely based off of the killing joke”. It’s not based on it at all. He isn’t even actually a comedian. He just tries it ONE TIME. And that’s how he gets his big break on tv, leading Murray Franklin to invite him on the show
One morning Cesar Romero tried to slightly trim his signature moustache but didn't use one of Harry's Razors and got it completely wrong, went off the deep end and became the Joker. Also he lived in a society.
whoa! I'm the military joker at around 8:10. so awesome seeing me pop in this!
The Joker is actually just a sack of cats, and nobody has noticed. It's maddening, why hasn't anyone noticed!?
I don't know. I still prefer the origin of Jack Napier. The name and everything just sticks perfectly. "You can call me JOKER and as you can see... I'm a lot happier." OMG. Jack was born to bring The Joker to life. And I love that by a twist of fate, both Batman and Joker created each other.
Well, he is insane, so what's to say that he's not all of them? Like, he uses a strange version of the Lazarus Pit, what's to say that every time he uses it, he goes a bit crazier, and it wipes his mind and he gets new memories?
The brother one sounds like something interesting if done in an interesting way perhaps.
Saw the spoiler warning... reached for my mouse to skip.. and bam! too late. Now I can't unhear the Joker spoiler.
Joker from The New Scooby Doo Movies (1972): Just a crazy clown guy
I always loved "the Joker is Bruce's Brother" thing I know that's kinda unpopular.
I saw that Racka Racka clip in the opening! Also most likely it will follow killing joke
I think there was also a Batman the Animated Series episode where Joker was a failed comedian who lost at a contest, and then years later he kidnaps all the judges.
You left out the intricately complex and convoluted origin from the Gotham TV series. That was a Joker origin factory.
2:27 he DOES have an abusive parent. I think it's a coincedence but perhaps the movie actually did research into the Joker
3/5 theory. The joker was a subway worker that was promised the recipe to the seafood sensation sub. He broke into the shop at night and found out the secret ingredient was goat. It was the ultimate fish out of water killing joke
The Joker in Batman: The Animated Series is also Jack Napier, hence why the gangster backstory. It's mentioned in the episode "Dreams in Darkness"
There was one comic where the Joker holds a women at gun point and she listens to three different versions of his origins and her choice determines who lives amoung three hostages.
But my fave version is from the TV show Gotham when Bruce first stops Jerome Valaska and the laughter starts to spread like a virus. The Joker is just a force of evil, thats all we need of an origin for him.
Given that DC Rebirth undid much of the New 52, I find it funny that whenever the New 52 is mentioned in this video, they cut to an imagine of the Rebirth Superman.
In the first season of Batman the Animated Series (I don't remember which episode specifically), Alfred (I think) mentions Jack Napier in passing.
Always preferred a joker who had no clear origin or at least told different origins to different people. It maintains the sense that he is just some crazy, unpredictable guy.
The Joker was a comedian who was Batman’s biggest fan when he murdered his own parents and hired a kidnapping just so BATMAN would save him and when he was rejected he was forever mad at batman. he fell into the wrong crew and turned out a thief when he fell into the acid trying to steal from the acid place, that’s when he got all the makeup
Everytime he says Fathah (Father). I think of the shark from Finding Nemo. "He doesn't even know his fathah"
I quite like the theory that all the parts where Arthur is the Joker.. it's a Hallucination like the movie 'The King of Comedy"
The Arctic monkeys reference are insane
The joker brought a 5 pack of joker buzzers but only got 4 out of 5 joker buzzers
The Joker was a Clown at the same Circus where the Flying Graysons were performing, and when they died, so did Joker's family. But when Dick Grayson was adopted, trained, and loved?; Joker instead was left on his own to be taken over by his own depression.
4/5. Or crime alley also happened to him, but he had no Alfred.
That's fair
I swear it was revealed once that he was Gelos the Greek God of laughter?
8:40 BATMAN NOEL BAHAHAHA
6:38 I LOVE how every woman in the 90's WB cartoons wore a miniskirt. I just love it. :)
I like the Lovers and Madmen origin story
Appreciate the use of oasis as the joker Batman brother’s picture. 4/5
Never been happier for an ad, played when I stool to throw the rubbish
Don't know if it's my favorite, but the Telltale origin was very interesting and quite different than most.
The Incinerator Guy
Yeah it was completely unique
5/5