The Book 8088 Is A New Retro PC You Can Buy On AliExpress And Its Awesome!
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This would have been interesting at $100. At $230 I'd rather get a vintage laptop off of eBay.
Right there with you. And the journey to get it running would be half the fun.
yea i got a amd ryzen no os 15 inch a,d2700u 16gb ddr4 ram for 124 usd yep that was last moth thats a cheap chip with good vega gpu in it
Ya
or build your own cyber deck
I have a Centrino Notebook from 2005. It runs DOS perfectly on a Pentium M 1,6 GHz CPU.
Brings back lots of memories. My first PC was the PMC-80, a knock off of Radio Shacks TRS-80. My second PC was the Kaypro 4. I upgraded it and added a 20mg hard drive. Friends frequently remind me of a statement I made once, that 20 mg's was all anyone could ever need or use. Nowadays I have systems and external drives measured in Terrabytes. Times have changed.
Cool idea, but I don't see why I'd want to pay so much for an MS-DOS laptop when I already run DOS on my iPad, smartphone, Steam Deck, laptop, PC, and every other device I have. The old school design alone isn't enough imo. But that handheld one you showed near the end looks kinda cool, so yeah - review that one. Pocketable DOS with a physical keyboard - that has slightly more novelty to it.
Some people prefer to run on original hardware. That being said, even as a retro PC enthusiast, I'm still disappointed in my purchase. This is a cool way to repurpose old industrial SBCs, but that's about it. I'd rather just carry my ThinkPad 600E..
Ever try to run "Bouncing Babies" on anything faster than an 8MHz 8088?
I'd buy it...
If it was GOOD. It's not a good product. It's a good idea. There's a difference.
@@lurch789 This isn’t an authentic experience though. No 5.25” floppies, tape drives, and no period correct LCD or CRT.
I have lots of original hardware, but I don’t find emulating a NES or Dreamcast to be egregious at all. In fact, in most ways it’s a better experience.
What do youse to run dos on your iPad and phone?
The most impressive thing about this system is that they managed to sell 131 of them.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. $230 toy. If it had a Raspberry Pi or some kind of Android based Arm chip inside of it it would be lot more interesting. This thing is basically an overpriced paperweight.
It's only useful for......absolutely nothing lol
There is an "R" its pronounced Ark - A - Noid
Windows 3.11 and a mouse would have made this so much more appealing.
You mean 3.11 WFW? Ahh, the memories of fussing about with my home token ring network topology... that would actually be fun to do again, even though it's sometimes frustrating. I even still have the ISA network cards, cables, terminators and splitters... Oh and some ISA raid cards and drives I could use (internal HDDs and an external tape drive plus a few still sealed long-storage tapes, and I've always kept it all cool and dry and dark). Heh. Would be cool to do again just for fun.
Sadly, 3.1 was the cutoff for the older/legacy 8088 chips. 😢
3.11 cant really run on an XT, it's 8-bit
3.0 is the last version that runs on an XT-class system. But lacking any kind of integrated pointer or a PS/2 port Windows is gonna be pretty tedious, unless the USB port can use a mouse and I missed that or haven't gotten to that part of the video yet.
I also really wish the screen were 4:3 instead of 19:9.
@@jameschamplin1742 From what I saw, no USB peripheral support. It's just there for storage drives, which is kinda lame
@@jameschamplin1742 You could use a serial mouse with it. I do remember using one. It was horrible (refused to track smoothly and always jumped, left trails as you moved it too fast for the screen refresh, etc lol) but it did work. Slowly. You couldn't "snap" across screen like we're so used to now.
It looks neat and all but I am seriously shocked you payed this much for such a unit. Its just going to sit there on a shelf now and gather dust after this video
He made enough money from this video and sponsorships to pay for the laptop 10x over. He’ll probably just throw it out
@@TheDeviousLight Your probably right, its a shame to be honest
@@TheDeviousLight He donates his retro pc's to starving Americans.
My first computer I ever owned was with this particular processor, Seeing CGA games brings a lot of child hood memories, Looks like I'll get of these Laptops.
Hah, same! Although I started with a monochrome amber monitor. Bought that after a (very expensive) 100MB external scsi hard drive that sounded like a whole rack mount server power up while spinning up, followed by a constant whirring sound, haha.
Oh, and reading /writing sounded like someone rage smashing on a mechanical keyboard. It was crazy.
(Technically it was the second home computer I used, but the previous one was strictly my father's. It took me a year or two to save up for one as they were EXPENSIVE AF back then. Like 8-10k equivalent (inflation lol) for a basic PC around the level you'd expect to pay 200 for today. A basic, cheap, consumer model.
@@ArtemisKitty Mine also has at the beginning monochromatic green screen later on I bought a CGA screen 😅
@@ahmseb Haha, nice! Yeah, I liked the look of the green ones more, but amber was a lot softer on your eyes, so my father insisted on it, and I just got the old one of his to use while I saved up for the color one, which ended up being EGA for me simply because it took a little while to save up. (A couple of months IIRC)
@@ArtemisKitty It was good times back then😅
@@ahmseb Couldn't pick a better time period to be "here" for it all, right? Watching the Internet be born and evolve, becoming more and more a part of our lives... What a great time! I can't wait to see what's next!
Personally, I think an ATX-size XT mainboard with ISA, integrated drive controllers, and a full 1MB of RAM would be the ultimate thing. Sure it's not portable but everything could be integrated, and there'd be room for all possible ports.
This is a great effort. If it had any legacy ports at all, that would be a great plus, and having a screen that's 4:3 rather than 16:9 would be ideal, but it'd likely jack the BOM up since 16:9 is all anybody wants to make in quantity. With custom-order screens, this thing would be over $300
I would not mind a ITX form factor one. Add a riser and I am sure you could fit some fullsize expansion cards.
My first owned computer is powered by 8088! At that time, mouse is not popular at all. However, a joystick is much more easier to be bought from the computer stores instead. So I would like the vendor to add a 15-pin game port connector, a 25-pin RS-232C connector or even a 25-pin printer port connector which will make this PC more useful. Therefore it could be used to connect those legacy peripherals.
you need to wake up thats never happening
3:58 looks like they swapped the bios, in comparison with the LGR video. Props to the 8088_bios dev's supporting it anyway! Neat little systems.
Would absolutely love to see more of this! and the windows 98 handheld too.
I do really like this idea but I think it has to be just a little more usable, the PS/2 port being the big thing. I'd love to see how it handles more things still and might even still be worth it.
Saw this weeks ago on other channels already and it is really awesome other than the price.
I wonder how they integrated USB into the system but as long as it works, it works!
Looks like a CH375. It's a fairly minimal microcontroller/usb interface. Whilst it's only being used for storage in the supplied software it is actually capable of running a full USB stack given enough software.
Probably uses FreeDOS which is made to support usb
WOW that's so cool, if only that had a floppy drive, it would've been the perfect 80s notebook.
That Hand 386 looks sick BTW
Bizarre! I spent a lot of time fiddling with DOS to get games working 30-odd years ago. I can't think of one reason why Id need to repeat that experience. Windows 3.0 as well? Was this product's sole use case to make me feel old?
I do not feel nostalgia for AutoExec and Config.Sys battles.
Lmao. I'm old, too, and actually would love to have one of these, though. I don't actually NEED it, but I would love to plink around on it for fun.
I share in those memories, and also have zero interest in something like this, regardless of price. Why not go further back and make a PDP-8 compatible...no thanks. I can understand the interest in muscle cars of the 60's and early 70's, as they still look cool and perform well vs many modern cars (ignoring the gas mileage and poor emissions), but computers from the 80's or earlier just have no practical use other than as an interesting museum piece. A very cheap ARM based SBC or even most any smartphone can run circles around anything from that era.
Would be cooler if it was called The Book 80085. 🤣
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That is a high price tag for a retro laptop...
Yeah I was not impressed. I'll stick with my ThinkPad 600E.
Thanks for the information, um Notebook da Nostalgia.
Yeah, I think we would all love to see the windows 95 and he’ll review. Have a great day.
my first pc was with wins 3.1. i got to learn to use the computer at work. finally, decided to get one myself. it cost $3k back then. i later upgraded to wins 95 and so on. those were the days!
Please review the windows 95 hand held 👍 thank you for all of the great videos 🍻
Does this DOS come with the DOSSHELL installed? That'd be a less memory-intensive way to get a "graphic" approach to the computer. Plus, IIRC, it had a form of task switching, which gave the impression of multitasking.
DOSSHELL never worked great. Better get DR DOS 7 and use TASKMGR. It's much better and more stable when doing multitasking.
If you still want use MS-DOS and multitasking, then get a 386 CPU or better and run Windows 3.1 in enhanced mode.
Great I had an 8088 with 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 disk drives, 640k mem no HD, CGA monitor. in 1990, for the low price of 1000.00 bucks. The first HD was 32 MB for 250.00. I just purchased 2 M.2 drives for a new build for 45 bucks each 1TB Saturday.
I did my best to get a 486Dx33 in 1992/93. Now it is 2023 and the 386 is back in fashion hahaha
i had the sx variant lol
I bought a 233 mhz pentium mmx IBM 380XD Laptop for under 10 $ under 8€ installed Windows ME and it runs flawlelsly with even 32 mb of ram it has PS2 conector even usb and can use wired and wireless keyboard and mouse.
All in all totaly happy with it
Missed opportunity to use retro 80s beige shell. I wouldn’t have been able to resist that.
I am glad we outgrown these laptops and have better ones now. But I would love to play Dsy of the tentacle, monkey island and others from "back in the day"
Would have been pretty damn easy to integrate a serial port, which would have allowed usage of a serial mouse and I think there are Serial to PS/2 adaptors out there now.
I wish them well. I have fond memories of DOS, but have no desire to return.
Museum guide: This is the world's first Abacus!
ETA Prime: Lemme quickly load up some games on this...
This is too much retro
Definitely
Would make more sense with a 386 or 486.
@@jdbarrera Didn't they already do that with the predecessor of this one a couple months ago. I think I saw several retro tech channels talk about it.
It too much Over retro
Yeah, I don’t get this.
I don't find it to be very good. It gets very hot, the screen is terrible, it can BARELY run Windows. It's a cool way to repurpose old industrial SBCs. That's about it.
What windows you running? Mine ran just fine in dos
I wish they had this as a desktop box with the expansion bus built in and no keyboard and monitor. The monitor is really hit or miss. Some reviewers have ones that you can barely see anything. The keyboard isn't great either.
What do you do with all of the electronics you feature in videos? Do you keep them?
What can it be used for - other than a collectors toy ?
I seem to remember the very first DOS pc's had a manual (potentiometer) sound level control.
The first CD drives had this too.
I wish they used a 9.7 IPS XGA 4:3 display, which is a pretty common and inexpensive type, used in old ipads.
Something this formfactor with a slot for sodimm form factor sbc's like pi computes and the new riscv one would be awesome.
Yea review the handheld 95, man this brings me back.
I would certainly like to have your opinion - review of the HAND 386 also. Thank you.
That type of machine the volume is controlled though the sound driver you can also manually set it in the configuration file I don't remember the file names to check off the top of my head. I like the idea of that system in that form factor it's just to expensive for what what use I'd get out of it but could be a great deal for people who is into that specific Era of computing.
Mouse support, a better screen and compatibility with more powerful SBC’s like a CM4 would make this device fantastic. I love the design, but right now it offers too little for too much.
an CM4 would be something totally different which is why you missed the point.
A better screen defeats the purpose
@@victorkreig6089I think they mean not 16:9
@jameschamplin1742 that defeats the purpose of the entire thing
@@victorkreig6089old pcs often had excellent crt screens so im not sure how a good screen would defeat the purpose.
This is insane. I would never get one, but it’s interesting to see it.
Is it a recurring meme with the repeating sentences? It’s definitely not the first time I see and I thought it was an edit error before 😂
Do you have plans on doing the 8Bitdo Neo Geo controller?
It does look pretty sweet.
I want this..... takes me back to my late teens! Oops, kinda outing my age, lol.
I wish they made something like this only it was a baseline Commodore or Amiga inside.
Totally rad 👍
Go for the sierra adventure games. Let's see Space Quest!
I'd love to have a risc-v laptop in this form factor
if they made these with Tandy graphics and sound, im sold....
This looks so cool 😎
At the very least it could have 9 pin rs-232 a parallel port could be handy if you want to pick up old packpack drives, etc. Otherwise looks good!
May be can be use it as typewriter plus a bit more.
I'd like to see this machine run the 8088MPH and Area 5150 demos.
i would love to know more bout usb storage like max capacity what format etc i never had a 8808 before i got one coming in mail
That exposed ISA bus connector is alarming. It's full of old static sensitive chips and there is no cover on the bus interface by the look of it
Damn it that looks fun
Why does it take forever to return to the C:\ prompt which you edit out of the video? Would prefer the 80386 machine, so please review.
does the basic programming language work ln this computer?. Thank you
I'd love to see a Win95 device, but a 386 processor for Win95 seems a little lacking
I want one of these with Pentium 200-300 performance, voodoo, awe32 and bigger screen.
My first pc was a 486 with VGA. I wouldnt have bought a 8088 or 80286 as my Atari ST was so much superior... So, yeah, this machine does not bring up nice mémoires for me... Thank you for the review
Apart from nostalgic value, does this thing has any utility?
That's cute and I have fond memories of the time but... never again
at least they kept the bezel size to a minimal
looks like the 90s IBM Thinkpads
I think Jim Lovell used one of these on the Apollo 13
It's Arkanoid not Akanoid. There's an "R" in it.
Looks great, but can it run Ghost of Sparta 2x internal res with 0 frameskip? :)
I'd say you're a bit late, but for all I know you just got the thing.
I really want to see it with rhe 8087
A little too retro to be my cup of tea, but I'm sure there are some who will really like this.
That's cool.
So full fledged dos? Or emulation?
Did you mention the storage.
A windows 95, 98 would be cool as well .
Steam, gog and some other's has retro games that work just fine.
You can install whatever you want for yourself on that system. The included software ist crap, anyway. But if you have a firm knowledge of MSDOS and maybe some prepared PC in your shop to make a booting cf-card than you can make the most of the hardware. I don't think it is for beginners without any experience in retro-PC-ing.
@@stefanhauschild does it play all the games at the maximum for that os?
It's pretty dated.
Can you try the dos versions of the Leisure Suit Larry series?
Could you find the manufacturer and suggestion them to make a raspberry pi version of book 8088? 😎
That's a great price if you live in the 90s and a 386 with a floppy drive costs couple thousand dollars. But....why.
How did you get AliExpress to sponsor this video?
I wonder if this thing can run with fully free and open-source firmware, like Coreboot
sounds interesting
For a retro system running Windows 3.0.. it has a Windows key?
Do you know if these are still available?
Ancient tech, nice
It would be nice if you disclosed how you got these devices up front for ethical reasons -- were they sent to you, are you collaborating/promotion, is the content being reviewed by them in any way before it's released, etc.
He said Aliexpress sent this over. I think it’s a pretty safe bet to say 95% of items on this channel were supplied to him. It’s be such a rarity for him to buy something, we’d know about it straight from the start. 😂
almost everything on this channel is "given" to him for review.
pretty sure they already got sold out weeks ago, LGR and ActionRetro already covered these.
Wow the CF card is Made in Malaysia!
Way to expensive for what it is. I mean cool that it's out there and I hope they find a market for it.
Wait a sec is it that chip that powered IBM 8088?
They should come up with a mini laptop with AMD 7940HS, 32GB RAM, a SSD, 8" screen, HDMI etc and I'm good.
Now, I'll be travelling light!.
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and under 1kg.
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Maybe I'll wait for RDNA 4 APU...
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And to think that just a few months ago, I was ready to punt on the 5700G in a 10L case!
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We want to see more
cool ~
👍Nice.
trusting ali express to get storage is like putting hotwater into a chocolate teapot
There's a new one with serial and parallel ports!
Why not just make this a modular chassis for raspberry pi or other mini PC boards
So, I don’t get it.But it is cool. I guess someone will in stall IBM/MVS for the 3090 on one of these next. I will love to be able to run some of my old COBOL and JCL projects on a laptop.
Hercules will run IBM MVS under emulation on a 386, so you can do this. I used to boot Linux for S/390 on Hercules on a PC110 handheld not because it was useful but because it was funny.
I thought it was a notebook from the day, the vibrant colours from the screen was incredibly confusing.
this product needs more I/O!
waiting for Rock and stick reviews...
Can it run ... Street Rod 2 or Double Dragon 2 ?! 😅
I missed those games...
486 would be interesting for 200 usd