Thorin's Company of Dwarves AFTER The Hobbit | Tolkien Explained
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0:00-3:14 Thorin, Fili, & Kili
3:14-7:45 Balin, Ori, and Oin
7:45-9:55 Gloin, Bombur, & the Battle of Dale
9:55-10:19 Dwalin, Bifur, Bofur, Dori, & Nori
10:19-12:43 Bilbo and the Company's Legacy
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Man, it would've been interesting if Thorin survived the battle of Dale. He would've discovered the truth about Bilbo carrying the One Ring. Plus, he would join the council of Elrond. I can imagine the conversation he would have with Gimli.
Hubiera sido memorable 📜
He wouldn't have let Balin go to Moria with a small troop, it would have become a massive colony that would have driven the orcs and Balrog out.
@@MarcRitzMD They would have slaughtered many Orcs but the Balrog is a different story. There is no way the Dwarves could have taken him on.
@@MarcRitzMD when the Balrog was awakened, the Dwarves were in a golden age, and their numbers were far greater than they are now, yet they still weren't able to fight off the Balrog.
@@MarcRitzMD They couldn't have driven the Balrog out
I wish the Hobbit trilogy ended with Balin visiting Bilbo and given a monolog of what happened to Dale, Erebor, and the elves. It could have also ended with Balin expressing to Bilbo his desire to reclaim Moria in the near future.
SAME
I had a whole scenario of how I wanted to see The Hobbit end I’ve kept in my head for like 10 years now. Lol
@@NerdoftheRings Video idea? ❤
@@NerdoftheRingsyes make a video about it.
As a fellow traveler I found it so sweet that he kept the hood from his first adventure. I still have my first compass .
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world". What a quote, and what an excellent video. Thank you!
This a very appropriate quote for our present day. :)
I like to believe that the dwarves who helped Bilbo set up his 111th birthday were from Thorin's company.
But which ones?
@@itsatrap1017The ones that didn't go to Moria and Bombur because he would be too fat.
Or their sons/daughters
No they were too rich
@@itsatrap1017 , Blippo, Bloppo, and Bleepo.
a theory video on “what if Thorin had lived into the war of the ring” would be 🔥🔥🔥
He would move in with Bilbo
YES
@@niamhtimmons7765 King Bilbo Oakenshield son of Thorin to be his successor no doubt
@@niamhtimmons7765 He would have been the King of Erebor so he wouldn't move to the Shire.
If Thorin had lived, Sauron's "messenger" might never have made it back to his master. XD
You are so good at finding those little touches Tolkien wove into his stories with such poignancy. That image of Bilbo, 60 years after the adventure that defined him, reaching for his old dwarven cloak and hood, is something I will remember better now because of your video.
I would've loved to see the second battle of Dale. it's so easy to forget the war of the ring extended beyond the realms of men
I can't help but imagine Bombur, who was unwilling to refuse the call of battle as any dwarf would do, going to the battlefield in some sort of combat wheelchair, taking advantage of his weight and body mass to knock out and roll over the easterlings like rag dolls.
Grond but it's Bombur laughing maniacally as he lops off heads from his combat chair.
The chair isn't mobile though - it's his normal chair being carried around by those previously mentioned poor young dwarves. He has an alternate six who swap out every few minutes to maintain efficiency.
He turned into Lord Mazdamundi lol.
He turned into Lord Mazdamundi lol.
I wish there was more about Bilbo's second and final visit to Erebor
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You guys rock this. You know that you really bring it to life. I can't imagine a better storytelling voice or a better story to tell. Thank you so much!
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Thank You! Recently stumbled upon N.O.T.R. This channel might easily be thee most comprehensive in depth study! Great art and overview. I like some of your "What if..?" approach. I look forward to future episodes. Thank you again
This is an especially excellent presentation for me. Who doesn't love the dwarves through all their quirks and follies. Even though I've read the series six times, I still feel your presentations add depth to my understanding. Thank you!
Balin should have listened to King Dain, who actually glimpsed Durin's Bane. The expedition to Moria was a terrible mistake.
Explain?
@sleevyy during the battle of azanubilzar thrain II wanted to enter moria after besting the orcs outside, but dain stopped him because he saw the balrog in the dark when he neared the entrance
Thorins last words always give me pause every time i hear them, they are words of one who has seen everything the world has to offer and also one who has been struck with greed
no matter how you look at it, the world would be a much happier place if we saw more value in food and cheer.... the hobbits live just a gentle life they can live so many life times and never once wonder about the horrors of war or the greed of man
one of the biggest reasons i love Tolkien and his works is that i can go on so many adventures, i personally think he had more adventures he wanted to take us on, i wish we got to see more of his world
these are so good. thank you
Their feet ruffled among the dead leaves of countless other autumns that drifted over the banks of the path from the deep red carpets of the forest.
Still Bombur slept and they grew very weary. At times they heard disquieting laughter. Sometimes there was singing in the distance too. The laughter was the laughter of fair voices not of goblins, and the singing was beautiful, but it sounded eerie and strange, and they were not comforted, rather they hurried on from those parts with what strength they had left. - The Hobbit - Chapter 8- Of Flies & Spiders.
I was waiting for this for a long time
Greatly enjoyed, very nicely done, bravo!
Another awesome video Matt!
i was actualy wandering about this thank you
Ive been waiting for this video!
Love your videos man. There are quite a few people who cover LOTR lore but I enjoy yours the most. Thank you for what you do. I love learning more about this stuff 🙏
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Epic video - keep up the good work
just found your channel mate and its great! thanks for making entertaining and fun content!
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early! love your channel! one of my favorites!
Oh I just finished showing The hobbit trilogy to my GF 5 min ago, this video is spot on 😂🙏
(yes guys she liked it 😊)
Amazing video. I can't wait for the next one.😊
Video is brilliant. I love middle earth docs. We always appreciate your hard work to make these videos.
Great video could you do a history of the grey mountains
Thank you so much for sharing this, I know there's previous video of 'What If' Thorin is still alive after the Battle of Five Armies and the impact or how it would affect the future towards the event of LoTR. I hope if you could make another 'What If' Kili and Fili survived the BoFA and how would they rules Erebor and the impact after the war and towards the event of LoTR. Or what if one of the brothers remained alive after the BoFA and what would be the differences between one another. I am quite new to your channel so in case if you already had made those vids hope you can share the link(s), but if not hope that you can consider this, thanks once again.
Love your content mate, love from England
Very interesting, as always. Thanks.
Do you voice act your own videos? I love how you inject these "audiobook" segments into the passages you read from the lore
Amazing content!
Amazing video thank you!
11:17 Intresting, I did not know Bilbo would again travel to Erebor.
If you have seen the fellowship of the ring you would know Bilbo wanted to visit the elf city and Erebor/Lake Town again one last time before he grow too old.
I’ve always pictured Minus Tirith being a place after Sauron’s defeat. As a place that could become a multi race city. To have men dwarf elves hobbits and others living there. Rebuilt then expanded. Having other cities built onto the mountain face like the first to both sides. As well as having large caverns built inside the mountain for protection if needed. This place could become the hub of all middle earth. Becoming a mega city mountain. Where the riches of the mountain shared among those that actually live there and not passing through. Man if it was like this Sauron’s orgs wouldn’t never have breached the gates. Having Men Elf & Dwarfs working together as one force.
Only Gondorians really resided in Minas Tirith. The Dwarves helped rebuilt gates after the war but no Elves or Dwarves lived there.
Was a city of Men, that's how it was intended, Elves might not want to be to close to Mordor but get where you're coming from still.
It's a pleasant thought but the Dwarves would want to be underground and the Elves a rustic folk, not enclosed by walls.
I’m glad I found this video about the dwarfs, I always wondered what happened to all of them after the hobbit
Harkens back to the early vids of the channel with the vids of some of the dwarves of the company. Whatever is said of the Hobbit trilogy i will give it credit for fleshing out this group a whole lot more.
Agree. The "we don't belong anywhere" scene still makes me cry to this day. Especially when you know how often the dwarves have been kicked out of their homelands.
Not Bomfur because of his mobility😂. I love your contents bro.
Thank you too. I love this video.
I learn more on this after watching both the trilogies.
If there’s anything I love from the Hobbit films it’s Thorin’s death scene. It’s so sad and gives be goosebumps and teary eyes every time.
Thanks so much
Was kinda Cool, Thanks 👽👍🏻✨
This one brought a tear to my eye. Or maybe I just got a little dust from the Road of Life in my eye... 😉 🥲
Great video, my friend 🤝
I really find it great that at the end when you say all the names that the last one is always "Debbie" after the all the strange, fantasy names, there's a Debbie at the end. The most normal sounding one of the bunch
Great job like before......Keep going :)
love ❤️ this!!!
Can you tell what music did you add between 0:00 to 0:59 i love this moment music in The background and i was wondering where i could find so i could listened in audio
Awesome video, even Bomber indulging a little too much. Ok, more than a little. 😄😄😄
Can we get a video on Prince Aldarion and Erendis soon? Please?
Good Work ❤️❤️❤️
Subscription earned. loved it, even though it made me feel melancholy.
@nerdoftherings since it’s a slow time rn with LoTR content can you PLEASE make a set of videos or videos showing the exact happenings during the LoTR movies. Like overview map showing their path and like everything happening in the background. I think those would be amazing videos. Like show what the dwarves were up to and the summoning of Sauron’s armies and the fellowships path. It would be so cool to see everything but picture happening. There is so much stuff normal watchers missed in the movies I think it would be amazing
Very nice video.
that bombur would become "so vast" hahahaha i love your words of tact xD
Dwalin was always my favorite dwarf because he had a 'BlueBeard' bluebeard. Bombur was next then Balin Oin Gloin Dori Nori Ori Thorin Bofur Bifur Fili and Kili.
Also I like Bungo andFolco Boffin (who went home after lunch). Samcho Proudfoot seems nice too. All the Bree hobbits (with their 'botanical' names) are just stunning (Rhudhaur Hobbits). The North Kingdom was in 'ruin' for most of The Hobbit and Lord of The Ring time frame but the dwarves still made use of it. The Hobbit mentions a few detours at North Kingdom inns. So alot was occurring. Where did Grip Fang and Wolf (and Fatty Lumpkin too) come from? Throughtout The Hobbit the dwarves largely ignore Bilbo while in the North Kingdom. But Bilbo says they still saw other dwarves ('ambling by on ponies'). But Thorin in a fit of rage calls Bilbo 'a decendant of rats' which is beyond profound.
@Nerd of the Rings could you please do a video breaking down the dynamics of Frodo and Sam's relationship based on the book? In the books, it seemed like they began as neighbors, and then later Sam referred to Frodo as his "Master". As far as I can tell some where that is not mentioned in the book, Sam has been tasked to look after Frodo and serve as an extra pair of eyes to back Frodo up and watch his back and assist him in the task that has been assigned to him.
I like the little added lore in Lord of the Rings Online, where Dwalin becomes ruler in the Blue Mountains. Seeing him again in the dwarf starting area put a smile on my face and it wouldn't even be to non-canon, since from this video I get the impression, that after the events of the Hobbit, only his date of death, not his whereabouts is known.
Bravo!
Thank you for pronouncing Oin, and Gloin properly.
can you do a video on "what if isildur destroyed the one ring?"
I wish Tolkien had done a sequel telling us about the war in the North. King Dain, the Lonely Mountain, Kirkwood, etc.
AS AN INDIaN I LOVE THE LOTR
6:16 Now, this is a dungeon map!
I've always wondered what would have happened if gandalf had stayed with them instead of going to the tomb of angmar, if it would have changed the course of the story at all
Völuspá ("Prophecy of the Seeress") is the first poem of the Poetic Edda, a collection of Old Norse poems. It is preserved whole in two manuscripts, the Codex Regius and the Hauksbók, and partially in Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda. J.R.R. Tolkien was influenced greatly by the saga, most obviously in the fact that most of the names of his Dwarves were drawn from it.
Almost all of the names of the Dwarves of Middle-earth, as well as Gandalf's, are taken from a section of the Völuspá called the Dvergatal (the "Catalogue of Dwarves"). The Dvergatal is contained in stanzas 10-16:
I love how in a lot of sketches of Bilbo, fanmade or otherwise, he looks akin to Tolkien himself. I feel as though if any character in middle Earth were a self insert, it would be Bilbo
This line of thinking causes wild speculation: We don't know if Tolkien want this to be complicated (Merry Brandybuck) for us or simple (Eru Illuvatar or Samwise) for us to figure.
@@monacoandsiammonacoandsiam2674 to be honest, i was thinking more along the lines of fan art/ Jackson trilogy. There, Bilbo is depicted as poring over books and scrolls, being raptured in whatever histories he could find, as well as writing his own stories. As Bilbo made his mark upon Middle Earths history/ literature, so did Tolkien upon our own contemporary history
I have also heard theories that Tom Bombadil is a "self insert" for Tolkien, though I find this hard to believe, as Bombadil is portrayed as a happy-go-lucky type fellow who aids the four Hobbits, while Tolkien (in universe, as he "found" these ancient texts then translated them) is more of a scholarly influence on our understanding of his legendarium
What is the background music used in these video? It reminds me of Tron legacy but slown down
Fascinating that Sauron knew Bilbo had the ring a few years after the Smaugs defeat. Does that imply Gollum was interrogated in Mordor earlier than indicated in "the Two Towers"? Were Lake Town and Erebor untouched by violence while Sauron and Saruman Attacked Gondor/Rohan?
9:17 more like
King Dain "Evacuate the city.
Engage all defenses
(points to Bombur) and get this dwarf a barrel"
I understood that reference!
playing minecraft i can see so much of the inspiration coming from lotr and i just wish it had dwarves or something like them. dwarves are definitely my favorite of all the races in lotr
You should make a video asking what if thorin survied the battle of five armies.
Yay, I prefer this kind of videos the most :) Although I knew most of this (I didn't remember about dwarves accompanying Bilbo mentioned in the end, though), it's a pleasure to remind myself all the deeds of the dwarven company. I haven't seen the map of Moria yet, that's interesting too!
awesome
Dear, can you please let me know the name of the background music played in the last few seconds of this music?
Orcs: "GROND. GROND. GROND."
Dwarves: "BOMBUR. BOMBUR. BOMBUR."
Can u make a video on eru eluvatar pls
8:46 he’s become Super Kami Guru
Mid-roll ads in this type of video just kills immersion
My favorite dwarf is Dwalin
So would thorin have tried to stop balin from going to kazadom or suport him ? And if he tried to stop him eould balin have lisened to thorin ?
Awesome video. I wish the Battle of Dale had been in The Lord of The Rings
Trying again here, where is the music from? Thanks
But what happened to Tauriel?
Answer: She never existed!
8:15 @Nerd of the Rings: Is it known who this Messenger from Mordor was? A Nazgul, the Mouth Of Sauron?
Great question! Those are the 2 most popular options. I think most people assume Nazgul, as Sauron only trusted them with the errand of reclaiming the ring.
@@NerdoftheRingsthanks. I don‘t know why, but it‘s on of my favorite scenes in the books (maybe because it‘s a strange tale from a remote place)
Balins quest to take back Moria could make a good film. If handled by someone who respects the lore
It makes for an excellent storyline, but I hate that Thorin, Fili & Kili all die. That would've probably made a huge difference in the events in LOTR. Had they survived I bet Balin's quest and outcome would've been better, I also bet that Thorin, would've been the last to die given his bloodline being so rich.
Dain. Day-in. I never liked the Peter Jackson interpretation of the name, Dane. If Profé Tolkien had not wanted it as two syllables, then he wouldn't have put a stress mark in it.
Dáin Ironfoot.
I'm still waiting for a stand-alone movie about the Battle of Dale.
Can you imagine how Balin reacted when he sees Bilbo and noticed he's wearing the same cloak he'd given him in Bag End all those years ago? I'm can imagine a bone crushing hug would be involved.
*Dwalin. By that point Balin would be dead, and it was Dwalin that gave him the coat anyway.
It is rather impressive how long Dwarves live. Not endless like the elves, but they live far longer then men or hobbits do. Even of the numenoreans only those of the royal line lived up to 500 years, the average lived to 210, meanwhile the dwarves all can live very long, and no distinction seems to exist between the royal and non royal lifespans, because Dwalin lived to 340 years which is closer to Durin the first's lifespan then other dwarves.