Silver Linings Podcast - EP042-Profiling the Evil Daybell Case with Mike King
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- Silver Linings Podcast - EP042-Profiling the Evil Daybell Case with Mike King
Silver Linings Podcast is a safe place for people to come and hear our family perspective on the Chad & Lori trials, but also to figure out the trauma in their own lives and to find resources to help them with that trauma. - Zábava
It's good seeing Mike again. He was one of my Supervisors way back when he helped get the Children's Justice Centers started in Utah. Great, knowledgeable, resilient, solid man, and don't know how people like him stay in this fight. I'd retired after teaching school for 35 years. But after 3 years tracking child abuse cases, I was totally wrecked. Going to work up in the mountains during the Olympics I think saved me. Thankful for people like Mike King!
Wow, thank you and what a great trip down memory lane @Kthopmson9572
I did my best to support Mike Kings children’s justice program because of my own experience being abused by my father who hated me but didn’t hurt my much younger siblings… I began Bvlogging online with my book I’m wanting to write called “On My Way Home”…but my sister keeps telling me that it’s in the past and WHY even think about it… but how does one forget being brutally beaten, se3xually abused in the worst way possible but told was my fault… how can a 5 years old child know what s3xy behavior is… @14 I was kidnapped kept 2 nights, drugged & aRpD…by 45 year old monster that came back to murder me bcuz I told what happened…. He told me that I was not dare tell… I had my arms around a deer that befriended me but he was using a rifle and tried to shoot me… missing me by inches but my deers right flank was hit and she ran into the woods leaving a trail of blood and I never saw her after that… has been over 60 years ago and I still weep for my precious one and only friend.
I spent months alone with my bio donor who was always gone gambling while my siblings lived with foster family while my mom lived 150 miles away attending the RN program… leaving me alone like this has a devastating impact on me as I felt totally abandoned.. no phone,TV, radio or even food really broke me… but my entire family has turned against me as they were taught to hate and blame me for everything that happened in that family just because I was conceived at the wrong time…
It’s crazy how my parents both blamed me 8 months before I was born and is when my parents began to abuse me and my uncle began s3xually abusing me when I was almost 7 years old but when I told my mom about what was happening SHE flew into angry rage at me and blamed me for my being too s3xy she was screaming that she was going to lose her baby all because of what I was telling her… I was terrified by what I had told her as to why I was wetting my bed each morning when she and my grandma were taunting and threatening to tell my entire school about my bed wetting… was my 1st week of school and I was so upset and distraught that they were going to shame me plus I was terrified that my mom was going to lose her baby that was due in a week… she held her tummy while telling me that I was killing the baby because of what I told them…
I ran out of the house and sat on the steps.. burying my face into my lap as I was sobbing praying and begging God to save the baby and for my telling my mom that I was being molested in the bathroom by my dad 22 year old brother Howard… I was the one who suffered the consequences of what happened…& my abuse became worse than ever as now my dad blamed me for causing trouble for his family and he began beating me any chance he could… slapping, hair pulling, kicking and punching me worse than before I told on his younger brother
@@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags Write your book. Tell it all. The truth sets us free. Like shedding a skin, we can leave it all here, when we go.
LOVE Mike King! This was such a great choice of a guest!
You all are such humble and wonderful men!
Much ❤ And Respect from Salt Lake City, Utah!!
Helping others during and after family trauma is so so important. Rest in peace Tammy, Charles,JJ and tylee xxxx
I’m happy to see Colby on CZcams he looks like he’s happy and doing well
Right. Is he gonna have another online baby shower?
I love that he’s found his way through all of this and he left the church. It was all to much for him I believe.
I hope he gets a P.O. Box love to send him a baby gift and he’s girls a gift
@@taramama6658 he has supposedly become a Christian after leaving the Mormons.
@@Becky7669 He had an online baby shower for his second daughter.
So glad you got to do a podcast with Mike King! He is one of the best! ❤
Thank you Rex and Adam. Great chat, I really enjoyed Mike and listen to him every chance I get. Sending prayers for you two to find peace and comfort, know your not alone.
Adam is spot on with the more you’ve experienced hard things, the more compassion you have ❤
This in my opinion is one of your best podcasts ❤️
This another of my favorite episodes you've done! Please have him back...often. 💜
One of my friends says her mom used to say "if you put everyone's troubles in a pile on the floor and were told to choose which set you would take, you would take your own". That always made sense to me.
So good I listened twice!! People are either interested, or they r here to judge. I'm here to listen and learn. Well done, you 2!
Rex and Adam are doing great job!!!!
My heart aches for Adam🥲❤️. He has been shredded because of Chad, Lori & Alex’s horrifying behaviors. Not fair- regardless of what they did- ADAM IS NOT RESPONSIBLE! Please have some compassion for him & other innocents.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Adam is the only one in the family that I have seen that wasn't defending Lori he was on Charles side from the beginning that's part of the reason they were against him his other sister summer is another one if you really listen to her she still defends Lori to some degree
I really enjoyed this episode! That video of Alex, Lori, Tylee & JJ is something!! I've never seen it before! And what Mike said about that green bucket is interesting, I need to go back and rewatch the police body cam after Charles' murder.
Love the Yellowstone videos. It never made sense to me why they would take Tylee & JJ there right before they kill them. That's why I feel strongly they planned to push them off but it was too busy with other people.
I've thought this too
They may have considered it but there’s way too many people and barriers there. Gosh can you imagine if they did that😮The hot water or chemical pools🤦🏼♀️
@@BuffyLynn it's hideous!
❤ Adam,and Rex hello handsome gentlemen much love coming your way from New Bedford Ma. Thank you Always Donna Barnes ❤
Loved this episode! This was a great choice for a guest.
Mike reminds me of a soft teddy bear. That's not an insult either! He's easy to listen to and he's out there fighting the good fight❣️
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Excellent program! Kudos to all!❤❤
We all have choices that we make, good or bad. Each person is different in life. Prayers for the family life.
I want to thank you for your opinions and analysis and I’m grateful to be able to speak my mind freely here. All our voices are important.
I am a derivative victim of a brutal murder and can empathize with you in many ways. It was a huge blow and the dynamics of my family were unhealthy and enmeshed. I have since found a new path and am a part of a family and community who treats each other with kindness and respect.
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Adam & Rex, I’m so sorry all of this is being rehashed again & again. Sending hugs your way & hoping you can find some peace ❤ Thank you for seeing the Silver Linings in all of this & helping all of us see them too. ❤
A really thought provoking episode, thanks guys.
You guys do such a great job - and thank you
Prayers for the family 🙏🙏🙏 during this difficult time 🙏🙏🙏.
Tha ks Adam and Gruncle Rex for having Mike King on today lov his videos! He is such a great guy! From AKRON, OHIO ❤😊
This was so good! I’ve listened to it twice! There is so much wisdom in this short hour. Thank you all so much for the vulnerability.
This was one of the most healing episodes for me. Yes, the subject was beyond dark, and I allowed it to play in a loop in my brain; having Mike there and his views actually gave different perspectives. Instead of making it worse, seeing how many ways this could have gone was simpler. Instead, I can process it and learn from it.
Great podcast with this guest! Fascinating
What you and Adam have to offer is showing that talking is good, showing your survivors of the trauma of dysfunctional family relationships, your podcast will help billions know that they’re not alone with having dysfunctional families, I’m a nurse working in a ward environment and never judge families for being dysfunctional as tbh most families have some sort of dysfunctional relationships amongst themselves, I too have a dysfunctional family, I’m 2nd oldest of 11 kids, both parents were violent with me from an early age however dad left after I left following my last beating which left me requiring hospital treatment aged 17, mum mellowed as she got older so the younger half of my family don’t believe the awful beatings I got on a regular basis, but back to you guys, what your both doing is incredible ❤your helping others who are going through trauma from being abused or whatever believe that they can survive and talking about it can be therapeutic, loving this podcast, love Mike King. He has a special gift at getting a point across ❤
I've thought for a long time the plan of Yellowstone visit had a purpose was to push them in.
When things happen and you say to yourself, “Make it make sense”, Mike just answered that so perfectly! ❤
Awesome episode!
Thanks for sharing.
Best Silver Lining so far! Thank you so much gentleman….
Love and light to you and your family!
The family dilemma. It’s way difficult but sometimes you do have to choose sides.
Mike I really enjoy your podcast. Lexington KY
Im in Monticello ky. We close by. Awesome!
Yes! I love him!
Mike - you are RIGHT ON with the Reward Package!!!
This was a great show today Adam and Rex! Thanks for doing this interview with Mike King!another great man with his show Porfiling Evil! From AKRON, OHIO ❤❤😊😊
Good description of those who follow one religion or another. Have to let someone else tell you what to do or how to live your life, then you refuse to take responsibility for your life.
I’m the oldest of my siblings… I was an unwanted pregnancy and my bio-sperm donor, Bob hated and blamed me for his failures… he beat me for zero reason while my mom refused to stop him… but his mother did her best to protect me and shed threaten to knock his block off… I was about 3 then when I knew that someone cared about me… my mom worked while my S-donor went out playing with his brothers… his younger brother, Howard was married w 2 kids and they watched me but he took personal care of me, bathing and molesting me always in my bathroom so I was terrified of going into the place where he forced himself onto me… smothering me and blocking my airway w his body part… too bad I didn’t bite him… but he threatened me… I was terrified of going into the room where the violence took place
That is so awful to hear. You did not deserve that. You deserved to be loved and protected. 🥺
Absolutely hilarious, adults speaking of zombies, rating people dark, these churches need to be shut down.. Anne from Scotland.
This was a great episode! Thank you continuing to shed light on this tragic story.
This was a phenomenal pairing... and I am so proud of Rex and Adam. Thanks for such a candid interview.
Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 love your broadcast
Outstanding podcast! Mike King always brings out the best in his guests! ❤
Glad ur doing more than 10 episodes!
You guys are so awesome!!
Really good podcast….excellent
Thank you 🙏 great show today 😊❤
Great podcast 😊
Love you guys doing this. ❤️ So courageous 😉 > prayers for you all.
Love this insiteful broadcast.
Agreed about changing the weather, @Adam. 37:34 Alex was TBI, Traumatic -Brain Injured at 16.
My thoughts as court cases are broadcast and people learn more about how to get away with crimes on every level, they're also learning you're not going to get away with it anymore. Good people like Mike, and more use of technology, are stepping into the breech more with each case. Thanks guys.
One of your best podcasts! Thank-you!!
It’s all so sad Mike , uncle Rex and Adam , I believe Alex was abused, brainwashed and taken advantage off Rex and Adam must be traumatised by it all and thank you gentlemen for all you have done with your podcast which had and has the ability to heal all who are troubled by these tragic deaths , 🙏❤️
Hey Guys! Long time no see! Nice to see Mike with you...the perfect Hat Trick! ❤🇨🇦✌
I believe MOST families have some disfunction. The trick is knowing the difference. Knowing what behaviors are disfunctional and which are healthy. Then you have a choice. But its so hard because its much more comfotable to do what weve known all their lives.
Adam you are so right! People that have been through tougher times are much more compassionate. I always say ’there but for the grace of God go I’. I bet i think that 10 times a day! You guys are in a situation that is unimaginable to me. Im also a HUGE believer in karma. 😂😂 god bless you guys for walk9ng thru the muck to get to the other side.
Ps. Love love love this guy!!!
Interesting podcast. I hate it when people start parent bashing or family bashing in these terrible situations; adding to the pain people are going through. Everybody has some kind of dysfunction or less than ideal things going on. To acknowledge that is indeed humbling.
Agree!
Rex thank you for saying we need to get justice which includes all involved..Melanie Gibb Melanie P Zulema
For sure they were doing castings on all who were killed. THEY ALL KNEW and need to be charged what a shame they walked away. They conspired in all these horrendous killings..RIP Tammy Tylee JJ Charles. 🙏🦆💜💙💙
I commented earlier, but I really wanted to say today , in my opinion , Adam , you were so connected today and it really showed .
I get it ,we all deflect and remove any spotlight on ourselves to avoid the pain .
Honestly , I get it and today you were amazing .how you handled the whole interview ( podcast) .
Rex , you are that guiding light in my opinion , you are an amazing support for Adam , it really shows the level of respect you both have for each other ❤️ I am really happy , you absolutely have each other and for all the right reason’s .
Today , felt Adam had found his true voice and was able to speak for himself in his experience and his emotions .
It felt authentic and I believe just so honest and painfully so,
I believe , Rex , you were instrumental in helping this whole process ..
You are amazing , you both are amazing 💜🙏💜
I know i5 is a tough time for your families now 💕🙏💕
Such an intriguing topic with a great trio of people. Each with much to contribute. The Yellowstone trip bothered me too. Although I found that Tylee hadn’t died there. Wish I could remember the fact of why I came to that conclusion during Lori’s trial. I’m glad Lori was given credit for being a good mom before the cult behavior. I’ve never seen Adams family as horrible. Only two things bothered me when Lori was young. When she called her dad a spiritual giant and her and Alex’s sexual behavior, even if they were joking. Seems like a lifetime of sexual power and religious fervor. A bad combination. Thanks to Mike, Adam, and Rex!
Great episode! Loved the collaboration.
I love hearing from family. You guys are amazing. Such informative stuff for the world to see. I enjoyed your thoughts and ideas surrounding all your family has gone through. Thanks so much for efforts creating this.
This was so interesting!
Loved your book I listened on audible. The emotions in your reading were very real. Thank you
Another theory about Lori killing Tylee is that Tylee got mad and said something possibly threatening to expose the "truth" about Charles' murder and it was more of a crime of passion, but your theory that it was planned before the day trip to Yellowstone (one of the most well attended national parks--proving Rex right that no one is a mastermind here) gives another perspective to consider. I guess both can be true. Tylee threatened Lori directly or indirectly and they planned to kill her. Although, from some of the phone data shared Monday, April 29, in court, I wonder if Lori is not solely responsible for Tylee's murder, i.e. a crime of passion; and she then called Alex and Chad to clean it up. There were a lot of phone calls and text messages for a planned event. The sheer volume of communication lends itself to shock and adrenaline--not that there isn't adrenaline even when a "plan comes together," but it seems more than that. I think also what gives a little more credence to the crime of passion is killing Tylee first. Lori knew that she was dependent on Tylee for JJ's care. Of course, Lori did many stupid things during the course of this killing spree, but
Adam gave me a light bulb moment for sure: that Lori might have though Joe's death was answered prayers giving her a direct line to God's "1-800-Smite-4U" hotline. The arrogance. And then Mike added to it with regards to the monetary reward for the efforts: insurance. So, maybe she didn't poison him, but she believed she prayed him to death and on top of that given money for her efforts. The lunacy of it all.
I think that while internally, Chad and Lori had reasons to know that they were full of sh!t, they externally communicated in this language of pseudo-religion to see how far it could go because they both needed to be not only validated, but revered. Both of their lives show that: pageants, public speaking, etc. OF COURSE, we all want to be revered and we can write a book and not kill our children, but just like for some who use marijuana and wind up addicted to meth and others can use marijuana and never touch another illicit substance, some people are prone to addiction and the adoration that they felt was their drugs.
It was mentioned that no one killed, in this case, because they were bloodthirsty (I believe was the word used), but there are speculations and conclusions being drawn from Alex's "dark" proclivities that indeed he may have enjoyed the killing part too. I can see that theory. I think though, perhaps, a fuller conclusion would be that because he had such shame attached to those proclivities that he needed to be a hero and he would do whatever he needed to do be a hero. I think Adam has said this before too.
Possibly going to post this on Mike's channel too. Thanks for letting me rant.
Bounty Hunter I'm waiting for you
Mike was Spot on!!! Great job guys!!!
Great podcast
Love you guy's!!! Y'all ROCK!!
I really appreciated this broadcast
A great episode !!
❤Adam, and Rex I send your podcast to a therapist that I personally believe will benefit from you guys. God bless you both. Much respect. Thank you Always Donna Barnes ❤❤❤❤
I just feel that if Lori had succeeded in getting Charles’ money. Maybe the children would have been spared. But, maybe not! Yes all the lying clearly shows a guilty conscience!
People can learn from mistakes and grow . But it can be to late and they will spend time in jail for the rest of their life.
Thinking of you both !
I hope for healing in your family!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Great discussion! Thank you!❤
Lovely to see you all. Anne from Scotland
Excellent show.
On a lighter note…. What a bunch of handsome’s!
Obviously they killed Tylee first otherwise she would have realized about JJ and would start asking questions where about her little brother was. They thought through of everything those wackos.
Hey, handsome dudes! I saw you on Profiling Evil and enjoyed you watching you with Mike King! ♥️
Hey Adam,Rex, & Mike. I follow all yall. I enjoy your shows
I am convinced that Melanie knew and conspired to have Brandon killed who was her estranged husband at the time. Agree that others need to be held accountable...
Fantastic panel. Very insightful. I’m currently watching every interview with Adam Cox that I can.
This all makes me sick!! Mike Stroud use to be married to my Aunt.
“No one is spared but we are all blessed,” said Rex. That could be our definition for a silver lining optimist. And I will tell anyone. Alex Cox is one of the most compassionate people I have ever known.
Pity he didn't spare some of that compassion for Carles, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy. 😏
Good morning Rex and Adam!
Always and never. So true, Adam! Good advice! Every family has some degree of dysfunction.
Alex & Rex, Mike King has been to CrimeCon. Mike King would be an excellent partner for you to collaborate with your first time there. I am volunteering for CrimeCon. I will help you too. Please go if you can. I’d love to meet you & see you. Dr. Vonda
enjoyed this!greetings from helsinki finland!
Please, do this again! 👌
Laurie was drawn to Chad & his books & thoughts, because of what was lacking in her life.
What could she be lacking that Chad could provide?
Absolutely LOVE Mike, so please do more with him. The Yellowstone video was very telling. I'm a journalist by trade, and I like NPR also because I feel like they are one of the most unbiased media outlets you can find, but my ultra-right-wing-nothing but Fox News-watching family members say NPR is liberal...so I feel I can't win, at least with them. Lol.
Came over from Lawyer Lee channel.
It's been going since I was a kid in the 90's!!
When charles was killed lori planned all that she said in some interview she took his phone and knew that would make him angry she wanted him angry that way she could get away with her story