It's not as bad as it may seem. He was a real "sink or swim" instructor. He never let me get away with sloppy flying, and didn't gloss over my deficiencies or coddle my insecurities. He later told me, after my checkride, he was harder on his better students, so that made me feel warm and fuzzy. :-)
For the FS NGX drivers who believe they can land the real aircraft, you might consider the environment of a moving aircraft, with real wind, noise, bumps, ATC changing every plan you have. Winds change every second (not on 10 minute updates). Add a dirty windscreen, a cold left hand and constant bumps for 3 hours. And that's when things are going well. A few bells and alarms in the cockpit and a wind-shear alert and you might be toast in 5 seconds. There's more to it than knowing the switches.
Elec pumps are needed for hydraulic pressurization, no engines are needed to do so. The APU takes his fuel from main tank 1(left) without a selecting the switch(DC pump will provide the fuel). Procedure states that the AFT pump is selected(AC pump. The DC pump will stop) to on because it's taking it's fuel from a lower place in the tank compared to the FWD pump. APU Requirements: APU cockpit fire switch 'in', APU ground panel 'in' and BAT switch 'on'
Physics is very important in the ATPL theoretical part, calculating different things in the aerodynamics subject - this is where the basic physics comes in handy :)
Gosh I live my pmdg ngx!! You can the checklist is exactly the same including the missed parts from the captain, also all the switch are available including stall and speed warnings and fire alarm check!! If you looking for a proper virtual fligh experience take it!!
Normaly when people use the term course in navigation they actually refer to track. Track is the "real" travel process intended, the heading is the direction that the nose is pointing. In 0 wind in theory track = heading. If you have a wind that makes you drift off the track, you need a wind correction angle. And this angle is the difference between your track and heading. So in all you are correct.
Nice to see how the B737 model has advanced over the years...what was once an all analogue instrument layout is now a beautiful glass cockpit...brilliant!
i am 18 since some days... i started flying at 16, i did my solo at 17, and i am currently on croos country. man, this thing is hard, but i love it, so i will continue, i want to become an airline pilot, but i am taking flying and univ at the same time, and wow... you can imagine.
That happened one time to a US carrier. B727 with a "dead heading" (female) junior first officer in the jump seat. She called a STOP once they were on the runway. They had forgotten to light the number 2 engine.
you set the ISOLATION VALVE to the OPEN position and the PACKS to OFF. This is because you want the APU (i.c.o. starting the engines with APU bleed air) to supply maximum pneumatic pressure so you dont want to waste any bleed air to the PACKS. The ISOL VALVE open is to get the APU bleed air from the left manifold to the right manifold to start ENG 2.
@char1eston Side-sticks and joysticks are better for making rapid control inputs and dealing with high g-forces, hence their use in military, sport and aerobatic aircraft. However, yokes are less sensitive thanks to a larger range of motion and provide more visual feedback to the pilot. Yokes take up more room than sidesticks in the cockpit, and may even obscure some instruments; by comparison side-sticks have minimal cockpit intrusion, allowing for the inclusion of retractable tray-tables.
blatpoppin5 - don't be too impressed with the captain's preflight. Training is a matter of building blocks. When you are learning that, or any procedure, you start off small, repeat, and add another item. Eventually, you will have the the entire procedure accomplished. I have been doing this for 20 years on everything from C172 to B747's. Keep your dream alive and keep taking small steps every day and the next thing you know you'll have reached your goal.
well I've also flown in real life and flight simulator, and it is quite close even if not the same. That's the purpose of flight simulator to help learn the real thing as seen in the video, however in real life, the aviation regulations restrict your flying whereas in FS you can fly as you please.
This, what he went through wasn't a checklist at all. He just checked and set the switches, buttons, datas or whatever according to the airline's SOP. The checklist can come only when everything is set. Then comes the preflight ckecklist, then the clearance etc.
Yes of course, the landing was a bit hard, but as you said if you would be the only one one on the plane, then you could easily take the plane down till final approach, and I think you could also land it, but it would be quite rough.
I'll never forget when I was a student pilot what my instructor told me (in his inimitable style) after one particularly lousy day of flying: "Use your F*****G checklist!" Words I live by. :-)
I agree with all of you guys! I also fly with the NGX on VATSIM, and that plane is awesome! Yeah, it doesn't have the ACARS function in its FMC, but it is 98% realistic. If you get a good 'training' on the NGX, then I'm quite sure that you could land the real NG. Once I was in a 737NG cockpit after landing and I knew all the things switches. And when I was flying in a 737 simulator, I could fly it well.
@FS9VATSIM Actually the packs have to do with Air conditioning. They should be off before engine start since the packs run off bleed air from the APU, and you want as much bleed air for engine start.
I'm not a pilot but I would think (someone correct me if I am wrong) A course is your intended path from point to point. The heading is your actual physical forward position meaning the actual direction you are headed in.. A course is more like an imaginary line decided on usually before the trip or decided on by someone else that you may or may not be able to travel exactly to but try to.
As an "old" avionics type person, I understood what the Captain was talking about; what about the folks who just "tuned in" - make anything of all of that? Lots of switches; lots of lights to see come on and go off. Only noticed one item that caught my attention: When he tested the "shaker warning" system, he didn't have control of the yoke; this allows the shaker motor (with an eccentric weight) to REALLY vibrate; is hard on the motor. In the USAF, maint. usually did all of these checks
main difference is different aviation regulations and the feel of the force, however the bumbs are there in the FSX. Also in FSX everything is started on for you, wheras in real life you gotta start everything by yourself
I had the chance to fly at the jumpseat from Braunschweig to Hannover (Germany) (just 15min) in a A318. You need connections, I did an internship at a big German concern's air service :-)
you can simply ask the captain:). One week ago, i travelled on a 737-400 and after parking I asked the captain to take some pictures of the cockpit. He even let me to take a seat:P
well i am trained in both b737/300-900 and a320 series i tell you m8 you would love the sidestick i like both very much but i have to say a320 is my favourite
thanks thanks thanks alot for this video. its amazing, its very useful for all sim aviators. If you are planning to fly with a pmdg. you must watch this.
@rappinCheese Yeah. Ask Air frace what happens to fly by wire, when pitot tube freezes, or when you loose the electric system. 737 has 3 hydraulic systems and can be flown without any of them. Cos pilot actually can control planne without help o Power trasfer units and such. On airbus there is no direct connection. So mistake i computer or loose of electrics = RIP...
thats exactly what i said. i replied to another persons comment that said this guy was doing a "checklist" by memory. and that doesnt make any sense, thats all i was saying. and i agree with you the captain is just doing his flow, in this video
@char1eston well remember, its impossible to stall or lose control on a airbus because of the FBW (fly by wire) system. so u really dont need two hands. why do u think the safety record of a 777 is good? its cuz boeing started to use FBW too ever since the 767.
I wouldn't say that they look like "alien" spaceships, but the cockpits shure do look very cool!! Btw, i have a question concerning the fuel tanks. Is the crossfeed valve open at all times? I thought it was only if there is an imbalance in the fueltanks. And in my flightsim the fuel pump switches are usually switched off.
To the 22 haters and the others that bash the automatic system in Jetliners. Let me ask you 2 very simple questions: 1: what is wrong with computers? you are using one right now! 2: knowing that almost 50% of all "crashes" are from Human errors. Would you still get in a plane as a passenger knowing there is no humans in the cockpit, that the only thing flying you is a giant laptop? Trust me, this "computers" crash way more than humans.
What makes you think that every plane is in such position that pushback is needed or connected to a tug? Lots and lots of airplanes are in far away ramps ready to roll.
I actually used to lived in france for 5 years, moved to America for a couple years and now I'm back in France. I know EasyJet and hate that air line. Tbh the only reliable and good airlines in Europe are BA, Lufthansa, bmi, TAP, Swiss and Czech Airlines. Alitalia is good too. But Air France and Easy Jet are the pits of EU airlines.
It's not as bad as it may seem. He was a real "sink or swim" instructor. He never let me get away with sloppy flying, and didn't gloss over my deficiencies or coddle my insecurities. He later told me, after my checkride, he was harder on his better students, so that made me feel warm and fuzzy. :-)
For the FS NGX drivers who believe they can land the real aircraft, you might consider the environment of a moving aircraft, with real wind, noise, bumps, ATC changing every plan you have. Winds change every second (not on 10 minute updates). Add a dirty windscreen, a cold left hand and constant bumps for 3 hours. And that's when things are going well. A few bells and alarms in the cockpit and a wind-shear alert and you might be toast in 5 seconds. There's more to it than knowing the switches.
Elec pumps are needed for hydraulic pressurization, no engines are needed to do so. The APU takes his fuel from main tank 1(left) without a selecting the switch(DC pump will provide the fuel). Procedure states that the AFT pump is selected(AC pump. The DC pump will stop) to on because it's taking it's fuel from a lower place in the tank compared to the FWD pump. APU Requirements: APU cockpit fire switch 'in', APU ground panel 'in' and BAT switch 'on'
Physics is very important in the ATPL theoretical part, calculating different things in the aerodynamics subject - this is where the basic physics comes in handy :)
Gosh I live my pmdg ngx!! You can the checklist is exactly the same including the missed parts from the captain, also all the switch are available including stall and speed warnings and fire alarm check!! If you looking for a proper virtual fligh experience take it!!
Normaly when people use the term course in navigation they actually refer to track. Track is the "real" travel process intended, the heading is the direction that the nose is pointing. In 0 wind in theory track = heading. If you have a wind that makes you drift off the track, you need a wind correction angle. And this angle is the difference between your track and heading. So in all you are correct.
I've been teaching on glass cockpit aircraft for about a year now. No better way to learn than to teach!
-Robert, CFII
Nice to see how the B737 model has advanced over the years...what was once an all analogue instrument layout is now a beautiful glass cockpit...brilliant!
Always nice for a pilot to say "We forget this part"....taking out parachutes from the back
Man..so many buttons of importance.These Pilots sure do earn their wings.
i am 18 since some days... i started flying at 16, i did my solo at 17, and i am currently on croos country. man, this thing is hard, but i love it, so i will continue, i want to become an airline pilot, but i am taking flying and univ at the same time, and wow... you can imagine.
That happened one time to a US carrier. B727 with a "dead heading" (female) junior first officer in the jump seat. She called a STOP once they were on the runway. They had forgotten to light the number 2 engine.
you set the ISOLATION VALVE to the OPEN position and the PACKS to OFF. This is because you want the APU (i.c.o. starting the engines with APU bleed air) to supply maximum pneumatic pressure so you dont want to waste any bleed air to the PACKS. The ISOL VALVE open is to get the APU bleed air from the left manifold to the right manifold to start ENG 2.
@char1eston Side-sticks and joysticks are better for making rapid control inputs and dealing with high g-forces, hence their use in military, sport and aerobatic aircraft. However, yokes are less sensitive thanks to a larger range of motion and provide more visual feedback to the pilot.
Yokes take up more room than sidesticks in the cockpit, and may even obscure some instruments; by comparison side-sticks have minimal cockpit intrusion, allowing for the inclusion of retractable tray-tables.
blatpoppin5 - don't be too impressed with the captain's preflight. Training is a matter of building blocks. When you are learning that, or any procedure, you start off small, repeat, and add another item. Eventually, you will have the the entire procedure accomplished. I have been doing this for 20 years on everything from C172 to B747's. Keep your dream alive and keep taking small steps every day and the next thing you know you'll have reached your goal.
Always nice for a pilot to say "We forget this part"....
I love when the captain said while in the overhead said : hoo we forgot this part.
well I've also flown in real life and flight simulator, and it is quite close even if not the same. That's the purpose of flight simulator to help learn the real thing as seen in the video, however in real life, the aviation regulations restrict your flying whereas in FS you can fly as you please.
This, what he went through wasn't a checklist at all. He just checked and set the switches, buttons, datas or whatever according to the airline's SOP. The checklist can come only when everything is set. Then comes the preflight ckecklist, then the clearance etc.
" I forgot this part......" haha. i feel safe in his hands!
Yes of course, the landing was a bit hard, but as you said if you would be the only one one on the plane, then you could easily take the plane down till final approach, and I think you could also land it, but it would be quite rough.
I enjoyed this comprehensive cockpit checkout!
I'll never forget when I was a student pilot what my instructor told me (in his inimitable style) after one particularly lousy day of flying:
"Use your F*****G checklist!"
Words I live by. :-)
Made me laugh "Oh... I forgot that panel", hope he remembers the next time he flys !! Good video though, very interesting
I agree with all of you guys! I also fly with the NGX on VATSIM, and that plane is awesome! Yeah, it doesn't have the ACARS function in its FMC, but it is 98% realistic. If you get a good 'training' on the NGX, then I'm quite sure that you could land the real NG. Once I was in a 737NG cockpit after landing and I knew all the things switches. And when I was flying in a 737 simulator, I could fly it well.
I think you'll miss that noise when you have a Trim Runaway. I like the Loud Trim Feedback
@FS9VATSIM Actually the packs have to do with Air conditioning. They should be off before engine start since the packs run off bleed air from the APU, and you want as much bleed air for engine start.
You are right. Because you don't want to install an APU that is more powerful and heavy than neccesary
Some of the things pilots do quickly, are called MEMORY ITEMS. Checklists are checklists, differ from memory items.
I'm not a pilot but I would think (someone correct me if I am wrong)
A course is your intended path from point to point.
The heading is your actual physical forward position meaning the actual direction you are headed in..
A course is more like an imaginary line decided on usually before the trip or decided on by someone else that you may or may not be able to travel exactly to but try to.
"Memory items" are for your brain. Those procedures you can do with CHECKLIST.
As an "old" avionics type person, I understood what the Captain was talking about; what about the folks who just "tuned in" - make anything of all of that? Lots of switches; lots of lights to see come on and go off. Only noticed one item that caught my attention: When he tested the "shaker warning" system, he didn't have control of the yoke; this allows the shaker motor (with an eccentric weight) to REALLY vibrate; is hard on the motor. In the USAF, maint. usually did all of these checks
This is a video from FLIGHT LEVEL 350 web site !!
Why did you put your name on that video? that's not your video !
thanks and regards from mexico, im aeronautical engineer, good job
This guy is a machine. He really is.
main difference is different aviation regulations and the feel of the force, however the bumbs are there in the FSX. Also in FSX everything is started on for you, wheras in real life you gotta start everything by yourself
I had the chance to fly at the jumpseat from Braunschweig to Hannover (Germany) (just 15min) in a A318. You need connections, I did an internship at a big German concern's air service :-)
"Oh, we forgot this part" :D
Great!
THE BEST JOB IN THE WHOLE WORLD !!!!!!!!!
ok thanks! That's one step closer to me flying as realistic as possible on my flightsim. :D
you can simply ask the captain:). One week ago, i travelled on a 737-400 and after parking I asked the captain to take some pictures of the cockpit. He even let me to take a seat:P
This is a very nice 737 Cockpit Preparation!!!
well i am trained in both b737/300-900 and a320 series i tell you m8 you would love the sidestick i like both very much but i have to say a320 is my favourite
Some are memory items, some you can do the procedure by the checklist.
thanks thanks thanks alot for this video. its amazing, its very useful for all sim aviators. If you are planning to fly with a pmdg. you must watch this.
I guess if you know how to land a 737 because of playing flightsim, you also know how to do a dual channel autoland. So I would recommend doing that..
"oh, we forgot this part" was just the fasten seatbelt and no-smoking signs.
And as simple as that, you're ready to go!
"ug we forgot this one" That´s why there are checklists!! Experience is VERY GOOD but it can bring problems like that one.
that pre flight is a supplentary precedure fouhd in the FCOM book
Ha lol an experienced pilot: "sorry I forgot this part".
+Italy BLUE LOL, at least he noticed it!
They are humans too
@rappinCheese Yeah. Ask Air frace what happens to fly by wire, when pitot tube freezes, or when you loose the electric system. 737 has 3 hydraulic systems and can be flown without any of them. Cos pilot actually can control planne without help o Power trasfer units and such. On airbus there is no direct connection. So mistake i computer or loose of electrics = RIP...
Very nice presentation.
I note that the url is given incorrectly at the end of the video
thats exactly what i said. i replied to another persons comment that said this guy was doing a "checklist" by memory. and that doesnt make any sense, thats all i was saying. and i agree with you the captain is just doing his flow, in this video
ok guys it looks really easy , lets hop into one now and try to fly !
nice video....I wanna get my ATP and fly one of these one of these days...
in coming time senior pilots would be expected to get around 100k~110k in a major airline :(
300k would be somethign in the past now..
@char1eston well remember, its impossible to stall or lose control on a airbus because of the FBW (fly by wire) system. so u really dont need two hands. why do u think the safety record of a 777 is good? its cuz boeing started to use FBW too ever since the 767.
course=intended path, heading=just magnetic heading
Yeesh. Sounds like a fun instructor.
i think they should reduce tha amount of hardware switches at least 2x in the future. Probably there still is a good room for optimized minimum.
thats just the passenger signs, window wipers, and dome light in the cockpit
Of course, you're right. I said that it would be a very very rough landing at first. And the real simulator is 3d :)
i love the part where the pilot says "i forgot this part".
@Hendri2285 It's just the seatbelt signs, relax.
I wouldn't say that they look like "alien" spaceships, but the cockpits shure do look very cool!!
Btw, i have a question concerning the fuel tanks. Is the crossfeed valve open at all times? I thought it was only if there is an imbalance in the fueltanks. And in my flightsim the fuel pump switches are usually switched off.
@airsportguns You should see the FMS.
@b747power its not a job, its all year vacations paid. and also a passion.
the 737NG is the real think, the 737NGX is the ultra-realistic addon for flight simulator x of the 737ng. nonetheless just a simulation
@thehazzer09 That's only the fasten seatbelt switch^^
Damn! and i tought my bike was hard to preparate!
I wanted to be a pilot too..and i ended up being an electrical engineer :)
It happens !
@hagios9 : Yes you are right. I realized just after I posted it. But could not change comment.
Nothing I don't know already, although his descriptions are a little brief.
Beatiful cockpit.
Great video!
@drliceman He only forgot the PAX SIGNS. No Big Deal. At least for the safety of the flight..
very good video!!! very, very interesting...
"Damn that was a rough landing, and the engines are on fire...and we seem lower than usual...Oh! Landing gear, we forgot this part"
Little bigger checklist then my lil ol Sundowner :-)
Same here...PMDG rules..there was no anything that he pointed that i didnt already know what is it.. :)
"aaaaaa...
I forgot this part!"
Not good to ear that... LOL
Lol, "we forgot this one". But i liked the video, nice for fs2004 PMDG.
To the 22 haters and the others that bash the automatic system in Jetliners.
Let me ask you 2 very simple questions:
1: what is wrong with computers? you are using one right now!
2: knowing that almost 50% of all "crashes" are from Human errors. Would you still get in a plane as a passenger knowing there is no humans in the cockpit, that the only thing flying you is a giant laptop?
Trust me, this "computers" crash way more than humans.
The video is very nice! Thank you for it! It was very useful to me! :)
What makes you think that every plane is in such position that pushback is needed or connected to
a tug? Lots and lots of airplanes are in far away ramps ready to roll.
the...aaahmm....everything....ahhm..we forgot this part.... check everything...theee...
But good video, very interesting...i like it =)
Maybe, it is the best way to do it, not treating being a pilot as your career, but as a hobby ~^_^
That guy. Has experience.
I think you may have a quick look, but i'm not sure!
i do the same preparation daily on the PMDG 737NGX
The X after NG shows that it is for FSX
@MrTillster
IT IS A BOEING 737NG
I second that last comment, a great video, and thank you for posting :-)
Lol 2:28 "ehhhh... we forgot this part" *gestures over 1m long panel*
almost exactly like starting my car!!!
the only thing he forgot were the no smoking and seatbelt signs. like the captain said.
I actually used to lived in france for 5 years, moved to America for a couple years and now I'm back in France. I know EasyJet and hate that air line. Tbh the only reliable and good airlines in Europe are BA, Lufthansa, bmi, TAP, Swiss and Czech Airlines. Alitalia is good too. But Air France and Easy Jet are the pits of EU airlines.
thanx for video, its good source for PMDG. 5 star.
@Leonard1589 For that reason the checklists exist!!!
@jltfazt its not difficult in flight simulator. it takes years and thousands of hours of training (both practical and theory) to fly the real things.