15th Century Windlass Spanned Crossbow - First Test

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  • @pendantblade6361
    @pendantblade6361 Před 6 lety +238

    *PTSD flashbacks of Rhodok sharpshooters*

    • @Sp33LzZz
      @Sp33LzZz Před 6 lety +8

      Pendant Blade oh man makes me wanna go back to that game... when's the next one coming dammit

    • @darnaran9179
      @darnaran9179 Před 6 lety +10

      Relax, see some naked men with 2h swords in MP

    • @chaplainjamesthicc305
      @chaplainjamesthicc305 Před 6 lety +14

      That's a nice head you have on your shoulders.

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 Před 6 lety +10

      I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL

    • @ivarlosna6516
      @ivarlosna6516 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Sp33LzZz Bannerwhen? 2030 I think.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 Před 6 lety +202

    Just the fact that you need ear protection for a crossbow is insane when you think about it.

    • @richard6133
      @richard6133 Před 6 lety +31

      As a person who will have Pratt & Whitney afterburning jet turbines in their ears for the rest of their life, let me tell you: hearing damage *really sucks.* If it's enough to cause you mild discomfort, it's enough that you should be protecting your ears.
      That being said, what part of the crossbow process is causing the hearing discomfort? Is it part of the mechanism? Or, is something like maybe the bowstring going supersonic for a split second, like a whip? I know that the bolts aren't breaking the sound barrier, that can't be it.

    • @ootdega
      @ootdega Před 6 lety +27

      The limbs, string, and retention mechanism would all make considerable noise when releasing half a ton of tension.

    • @johno1544
      @johno1544 Před 6 lety +13

      A hammer hitting a nail can reach the hearing damage threshold. Long term you can mess up your hearing at much lower levels then most people think.

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac Před 6 lety +15

      Yep, never let anyone discourage you from wearing hearing protection if you feel you need it. It doesnt have to be as ear splitting as a 12 gauge shotgun to do damage. If its uncomfortable then its loud enough to do damage. Hearing loss is accumulative so by the time you realize youre losing your hearing its already too late people!

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 6 lety +9

      the vast majority of the noise comes from the spinning nut, with a more modern trigger (or a horn nut) it would make hardly any noise, but that wouldn't be as historically accurate.

  • @SuicideNeil
    @SuicideNeil Před 6 lety +727

    Joerg's watching this video and thinking to himself 'needs more rubber...'.

    • @thomaswilkinson3241
      @thomaswilkinson3241 Před 6 lety +74

      "Let me show you its features."

    • @Nicmadis
      @Nicmadis Před 6 lety +29

      More likely; "I could make that ten times more powerful with rubber."

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil Před 6 lety +11

      Pssst, Nicmadis- that was the joke, but I was being subtle about it ;)

    • @nttntjno1797
      @nttntjno1797 Před 6 lety +13

      Or, 300 bars of compressed air.

    • @TheScoundrel70
      @TheScoundrel70 Před 6 lety +7

      Joerg Sprave could cock that one handed! 😆😉👍🏻🇨🇦
      Very cool, all kidding aside.

  • @TheBlackhawk123
    @TheBlackhawk123 Před 6 lety +77

    The sound of the release is very satisfying.. Enjoy your new "toy" Skall, looking foreward future armour tests

  • @drefpet
    @drefpet Před 6 lety +6

    Pretty damn good sound and video quality! You almost don't hear the wind and other environmental stuff at all also the close-ups of where the bolts hit look pretty detailed. Also the content was very interesting and fun to watch. You can definitly see that Skall has improved A LOT

  • @domg6041
    @domg6041 Před 6 lety +419

    Jesus, one of those times that muskets look like a rapid fire system huh? I think by the time you'd have that cocked you'd have been ended rightly 10 fold.

    • @chrisdroney8141
      @chrisdroney8141 Před 6 lety +97

      Dominic Guay Perhaps Medeval crossbow units would be divided into separate groups that fire in-sync, in such a way that there would almost always be one group that is currently firing, while the others are reloading. I have absolutely no historical evidence to back that up, but it seems reasonable...

    • @ChristophBrinkmann
      @ChristophBrinkmann Před 6 lety +56

      A musket - with training and practice - took anywhere from 90-120 seconds to reload. Certainly isn't fast to reload but this uh....this is a bit faster than that lol.

    • @benmasta5814
      @benmasta5814 Před 6 lety +43

      not every opposing army would be so well equipped with pommels though

    • @virding232
      @virding232 Před 6 lety +4

      I don't know, people didin't do this with muskets until a Swedish king came up with it. I think his name was Carulos Rex in case you want to look it up for yourself.

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 Před 6 lety +22

      Christoph Brinkmann during 18th centuary, a well trained British soldier can do around 3 shots per minute with a flinlock rifle.

  • @PadraicSmith
    @PadraicSmith Před 6 lety +156

    The main thing that went through my head seeing you use this was "this is why crossbow's needing strength in games instead of dexterity is a load of rubbish"

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Před 6 lety +50

      it doesn't actually
      in most games i know crossbows don't have strength based damage modifiers, if anything they might have a strength requirement to be used but adding more strength doesn't usually increse damage.

    • @emanueljuandavid8821
      @emanueljuandavid8821 Před 6 lety +22

      Windhelm Guard Dark Souls did this which is nicely immersive. However bows scaling with dex is silly, requirements sure but strength obviously would be the factor in damage.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Před 6 lety +42

      damage wouldn't increase on a bow with strength either, once you are strong enough to draw the bow, adding more strength doesn't make the arrow go any faster, it would increase accuracy due to the user being able to hold it more steadily and you might also be able to shoot with a higher frequency, but that's about it.

    • @mystic-malevolence
      @mystic-malevolence Před 6 lety +4

      Well, that would depend on the type of crossbow. Not all of them had cranks.
      EDIT: Or do you mean, increasing damage? Either way that would be a bit silly.

    • @Askorti
      @Askorti Před 6 lety +10

      Emanuel That's why Mount&Blade is great. It has both a strength requirement for crossbows and bow damage scales with a skill that requires strength.

  • @Dardaigh13
    @Dardaigh13 Před 6 lety +8

    Hey Skallagrim, love that the bow is finally here and I am excited to see its full power and potential. Just wanted to tell you to be careful standing behind the tickler (trigger) and spanning towards yourself, most treatise depictions and reenactment I have seen have the bowman on the other side pushing away when spanning to keep the chance of dry firing down. The way you are spanning could be muscle memory from the goat's foot lever, or perhaps the windlass may be safely spanned from either position and I don't know what I'm talking about. Stay safe. I hope you and Cara have a great Halloween.

  • @noobnoobyify
    @noobnoobyify Před 6 lety +4

    I love how the background music changed from medieval to techno at 5:03

  • @gentlemurican403
    @gentlemurican403 Před 6 lety +194

    2:00 "OHhHhH wait wait wait , he's gonne shoot something!!!"
    *Press the big red button*
    "Demonetisation protocol engaged in 3...2...1"
    -CZcams

  • @merlball8520
    @merlball8520 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video. Great to see such a weapon reviewed by a familiar and authentic CZcamsr. Kudos! And looking forward to more.

  • @Hirosjimma
    @Hirosjimma Před 6 lety

    Nice job on the music editing there. The switch from old fashioned to modern didn't go unnoticed. You're putting some effort in all of your vids and it shows.

  • @OutOfNamesToChoose
    @OutOfNamesToChoose Před 6 lety +6

    Shoutout to Tod's CZcams channel, "Tod Todeschini", where he shows and explains how and why things were made the way that they were, including the internal mechanisms for crossbows.

  • @stephend50
    @stephend50 Před 6 lety +32

    Would be interesting to see what it would do against level II body armor

    • @pyramear5414
      @pyramear5414 Před 6 lety +11

      Ash Pierce it is lighter body armor effective against 9mm rounds and .357 JSP. It is usually light enough that it can be concealed.
      At least assuming he is saying level 2 of the NIJ 0101.05 Standard.

    • @pyramear5414
      @pyramear5414 Před 6 lety +1

      ultraboy222 it should be pointed out that while kevlar is a fiber in the most traditional sense in lower level body armors, in heavier armors kevlar is more like a hard plastic sheet. Kevlar armor plate inserts wouldn't be so easily penetrated by a sharp arrow or spear.

    • @stephend50
      @stephend50 Před 6 lety +4

      NIJ Level II body armor, it will stop up to 45 acp and 9mm. I know from experience, one can stab through a level II body armor panel. Bullets aren't sharp and pointy like a knife or bolt head. but I don't know if it is legal to own such a thing in Canada

    • @pyramear5414
      @pyramear5414 Před 6 lety

      ultraboy222 (see edit below) there most certainly is such a thing as kevlar plate inserts. And I didn't claim it was a plastic, I was attempting to explain the consistency of its surface and how it feels to the touch. The specific panels I am thinking of are inserts inside of an advanced combat helmet used by the us marine corps.
      Edit: on further research I found that what I was referring to was a composite plate which included kevlar as one of the materials, and not pure kevlar. I was wrong, simply put.

    • @stephend50
      @stephend50 Před 6 lety

      Stewart Smith yes I know, nij level II is woven aramide cloth. I have put a knife into it and penetrated, not easily. It was an expired panel.

  • @zipp4everyone263
    @zipp4everyone263 Před 6 lety

    Thats a really nice video! Thanks for the extensive commentary, really helps getting a feel for the use of this weapon!

  • @Pecogo1
    @Pecogo1 Před 6 lety +2

    You gotta congratulate the folks from the medieval era for creating those type of arrow/bolt heads. Those are some pretty basic components that they had to work with, so the fact that they manadged to create an especially shaped point to penetrate stuff like gambeson or mail is pretty darn impressive

    • @grenouillesscent
      @grenouillesscent Před 11 měsíci +1

      And they didn’t design machines to do each operation or punch some code into a CAD mill/lathe. They did it all with hand tools, for each and every part.

  • @seriousgoat76
    @seriousgoat76 Před 6 lety +63

    Perfect for home defence.

    • @secutorprimus
      @secutorprimus Před 6 lety +52

      Hold on, kind sir, can you just stand there for a few minutes? I just need to load my weapon.

    • @sirgluttony_2664
      @sirgluttony_2664 Před 6 lety +3

      You only got one good shot of its already ready to go but if not who in this world would wait for you to load up the crossbow?

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Před 6 lety +7

      Snoopy Goose they keep laughing in astonishment giving you enough time

    • @Number1Irishlad
      @Number1Irishlad Před 6 lety +10

      Snoopy Goose well most criminals are gentlemen so theyd politely wait while stifling laughter as u reload xD

    • @SuperYoshikong
      @SuperYoshikong Před 6 lety

      Its MAGIC A melee weapon is better

  • @cundan0484
    @cundan0484 Před 6 lety +10

    I love how you change your music in your videos based on the weapons time

  • @a.o.9594
    @a.o.9594 Před 6 lety

    Thank you skallagrim seriously was always curios about these never had the chance to try or see one in action

  • @miitch99
    @miitch99 Před 6 lety

    Before I watch is, I'm already very excited! I hope this is the crossbow you mentioned a while back that you were hoping to purchase.

  • @Zeliek
    @Zeliek Před 6 lety +16

    Have to say padding FTW! From ten meters for switchblade length of penetration (on the first on the light and mostly on the THICC-er one) i'm more impressed by the armor i have to say! I mean crossbows were incredible game changers but damn someone has to praise the armors sometimes!

    • @Zeliek
      @Zeliek Před 6 lety +3

      Also can you please try something like a coconut layer under the padding to simulate bone? I bet those bolt even if they don't pierce, from ten meters might crack bones due to their mass.

    • @wulf7463
      @wulf7463 Před 6 lety +2

      the force alone would be enough to break bones.

    • @fredhenry101
      @fredhenry101 Před 6 lety +1

      With bone breakage it is often less about kinetic energy (heavily dependent on velocity, e=0.5(m*v^2)) and more about impulse (m*v*t when the target is standing still) meaning that while bullets move considerably faster, their lower mass robs them of impulse, as well as the fact that they are designed to penetrate small areas rather than punch through armor like these bolts were meant to. Lots of factors to consider though

  • @Ranstone
    @Ranstone Před 6 lety +75

    Battlefield? Nah, I'll pass. But if I'm defending a castle, I'll take one of these over a longbow any day. Shoot, duck and reload, and shoot again.

    • @sirgluttony_2664
      @sirgluttony_2664 Před 6 lety +8

      Longbow is better then this crossbow. It may have power but your castle will be overrun if you got a team of them with the crossbow defending your castle. The reload time is slow, very slow.
      I would have a team of longbow man with the crossbow. They can use it once or twice and get back using the longbow.

    • @Number1Irishlad
      @Number1Irishlad Před 6 lety +1

      Snoopy Goose if have some with the long bow (or composite bow cuz y not) and some with crossbow. Fire a volley of bolts, and while theyre reloading, the archers with the long/composite bows just keep firing away

    • @scottwatrous
      @scottwatrous Před 6 lety +31

      If someone can use a longbow you give them a longbow because it's better overall at long range. The crossbows are for giving to a bunch of people who aren't trained from birth to be longbowmen, to supplement your traditional archers.
      Since the reload is slow, you protect the crossbowmen with layers of other soldiers like pikemen, and just hope no-one breaks thru or uses their own archers/artillery against them.
      But in general you take all the archers you can get and set them to their work, give all your crossbows to other people, because almost anyone can aim the damn thing into a crowd of dudes, and stick them all in a position where they can hit the enemy and there's enough people with spears and pikes and swords in front.

    • @FoolishDoug
      @FoolishDoug Před 6 lety +3

      Have the well trained crossbowmen aim for armored targets. Bowmen aim for softies.

    • @Theduckwebcomics
      @Theduckwebcomics Před 6 lety +1

      This is a perfect battlefield weapon. If you're away from cavalry and the front lines you can pour fire into people with impunity. Reload time is irrelevant.

  • @murphysmuskets
    @murphysmuskets Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome video brotha! Loved seeing the comparison between ancient and modern!

  • @josuelservin2409
    @josuelservin2409 Před 6 lety

    So nice to see it in action, Im eager to see all the future test.

  • @electronkaleidoscope5860
    @electronkaleidoscope5860 Před 6 lety +7

    I just occurred to me how strange it is that windlass doesn't make crossbows.

  • @Schmidt54
    @Schmidt54 Před 6 lety +13

    THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE

  • @Serasitas
    @Serasitas Před 6 lety

    What a beautiful piece! I can't wait for more videos.

  • @secutorprimus
    @secutorprimus Před 6 lety

    Gives you a whole new appreciation for how easy Tod makes loading one of these look.

  • @holidae748
    @holidae748 Před 6 lety +47

    Havent even watched it but, MONEY WELL SPENT!!

  • @harrisonoconnor6794
    @harrisonoconnor6794 Před 6 lety +16

    He sounds like grue from despicable me

    • @user-zu1hi4br4t
      @user-zu1hi4br4t Před 6 lety

      Harrison O'Connor hahaha I was just thinking that!

  • @FoardenotFord
    @FoardenotFord Před 6 lety

    Badass - definitely a labor of love to load and shoot, but the payoff of seeing such a large, powerful, traditionally made crossbow in action makes it well worth the time and effort.
    Thanks for sharing Skall

  • @HarryBalzak
    @HarryBalzak Před 6 lety

    I find this soothing and relaxing while also entertaining. Great video.

  • @aldor9357
    @aldor9357 Před 6 lety +4

    Yey! Daddy Skall finally got his mighty bow, now he's gonna wreck some shit

  • @SharkByteOfficial
    @SharkByteOfficial Před 6 lety +33

    I dedicated the ending of my latest video to you Skall ;)... for getting me mooore into swords and understanding them better

    • @Dimitris-Stasinopoulos
      @Dimitris-Stasinopoulos Před 6 lety

      sub for a sub ok ?

    • @SharkByteOfficial
      @SharkByteOfficial Před 6 lety +6

      WEIR DO sorry... sub for sub is literally pointless if we aren't gonna watch each others content. And currently you have no content so their is no point for me to subscribe :/

  • @HaragothNAR
    @HaragothNAR Před 6 lety +2

    I'm always impressed by how protective gambesons are. They're like the medieval form of a bullet proof vest.

    • @rchave
      @rchave Před 6 lety

      Make one with silk and it literally is bulletproof :)

  • @mephi6762
    @mephi6762 Před 6 lety

    I love the editing of the music, the music goes from medieval to electronic when he switches to the modern crossbow, and vice versa

  • @SpamMeGooglification
    @SpamMeGooglification Před 6 lety +5

    Are there any historical references of what the standard rate of fire was in actual use?

    • @Reverendshot777
      @Reverendshot777 Před 6 lety +1

      First Last I would imagine there would have been someone reloading them in a cycle as the archer took them and released them one by one.

    • @alexc7857
      @alexc7857 Před 6 lety +8

      i would imagine a skilled crossbow man could fire 2 a minute

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 6 lety +1

      About 30 seconds to load this and shoot, if you are skilled.

  • @hugoakerlund5114
    @hugoakerlund5114 Před 6 lety +12

    Finally! This is what ive been waiting for! Now put a pommel on of em bolt shafts

    • @sprigganthebiggan4152
      @sprigganthebiggan4152 Před 6 lety +1

      If it has a shaft or a handle, it needs a pommel. That's the Skall way.

    • @hugoakerlund5114
      @hugoakerlund5114 Před 6 lety

      Rambaugaming GoodGamesForYou hehe someone of us skall fans has to make a pommel the size of a fotball

    • @sprigganthebiggan4152
      @sprigganthebiggan4152 Před 6 lety

      Scandinavian Huntsman Truly.

    • @hugoakerlund5114
      @hugoakerlund5114 Před 6 lety

      Rambaugaming GoodGamesForYou yeah amd they should give it to skall personally and then they should let skall throw it at either them or maybe some guy from youtube

    • @IRON_KING_KNIGHT
      @IRON_KING_KNIGHT Před 6 lety

      Scandinavian Huntsman old meme

  • @Wormweed
    @Wormweed Před 6 lety

    Very fun seeing the comparison to the modern crossbow.

  • @UenoLocker54
    @UenoLocker54 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for putting links to the music in description.

  • @martynkalendar
    @martynkalendar Před 6 lety +29

    Ok so you have a spanned crossbow, but what about a spandau crossbow?

    • @pagangains105
      @pagangains105 Před 6 lety +5

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    • @secutorprimus
      @secutorprimus Před 6 lety

      Pagan Gains That is amazing

    • @ErwinPommel
      @ErwinPommel Před 6 lety +2

      It's actually incorrect to call them Spandaus, as those crossbows weren't even made in Spandau.

  • @alexc7857
    @alexc7857 Před 6 lety +12

    finally!!!! :D :D yayayayayayay ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Stangil1
    @Stangil1 Před 6 lety +1

    Its amazing how protective the gambeson is.

  • @wearblackclothes
    @wearblackclothes Před 6 lety

    Up until that last bit you were saying how hard it was aiming with this thing but all I can think is wow you're doing a really good job

  • @iraqigamer2407
    @iraqigamer2407 Před 6 lety +19

    He looks badass.
    Admit it, people.

  • @deviljho3
    @deviljho3 Před 6 lety +31

    would bolts like these be able to cause heavy blunt trauma?

    • @Gloin79
      @Gloin79 Před 6 lety +38

      could probably break a rib if you were wearing only gambeson and mail.

    • @iainclark8695
      @iainclark8695 Před 6 lety +15

      At about 1/4 the energy of a 9mm slug you'd get a thump, but not enough to damage you through padded armour.

    • @zayanwatchel8780
      @zayanwatchel8780 Před 6 lety

      Dominic Rossetti through mail alone depending on quality even low quality material riveted could fail

    • @RockerMarcee96
      @RockerMarcee96 Před 6 lety

      +Iain Clark, it's not the kinetic energy that matters if it would break bones but the inertia, and this has it in tons.

    • @iainclark8695
      @iainclark8695 Před 6 lety

      I make it 4.69kg if the armour stops the bolt in 0.1 seconds. I'd love to see your maths.

  • @doopydoopz1737
    @doopydoopz1737 Před 6 lety

    Love how you changed the background music to a more futuristic theme when using the modern crossbow

  • @joshloy70
    @joshloy70 Před 6 lety

    I love the music at the end of your videos it gives off the old school rpg vibe

  • @raguel4416
    @raguel4416 Před 6 lety +6

    How would one of those pieces of cloth do against a modern day pistol?

    • @gabriel300010
      @gabriel300010 Před 6 lety +11

      Not very well I suppose.

    • @shovelofwalnuts
      @shovelofwalnuts Před 6 lety +4

      Raguel
      would probably punch right through, gambison was made to protect only against cuts in places plate armor can't protect

    • @raguel4416
      @raguel4416 Před 6 lety

      Shovel of Walnuts k thx

    • @nymeriagloves3957
      @nymeriagloves3957 Před 6 lety +6

      In my experience i use cloth to catch super slow loads, or regular loads after passing through water jugs. If i had to guess fabric is bulletproof from 300-500 feet per second depending on thickness(or 100 to 170 meters per second) most handguns are atleast twice that fast. Real bullet proof fabrics work up to roughly 1500fps or 500mps

    • @wetlettuce4768
      @wetlettuce4768 Před 6 lety

      It might just about offer some protection from a .38 special snub nose revolver but I wouldn't count on it.

  • @onetwothreefour3957
    @onetwothreefour3957 Před 6 lety +4

    yo skall, in what battlefield situations is a crossbow superior to contemporary bow types?
    i am interested in all kinds of stats in this regard. i assume bows are way better at long range and may even be faster to shoot by default than the fastest crossbows. they also seem to have more penetration in comparison to the same draw weight wih cross bows especially when we talk contemporary. so would the crossbow only be good at short to medium distances on "normal" battlefields? are they maybe easier/cheaper to build? is ammo more expensive for bows because the bolts are so much shorter and therefore can also be a bit curvier than ammo for bows? is maybe lighter, so a crossbowman can carry more ammo to battle?
    the only thing i know for sure about it is how you have to be quite strong to shoot bows, so maybe weaker men, teenagers, maybe even children, old people and women can shoot crossbows more efficiently?
    do they maybe work better in rain or snow, or very hot/cold weather?
    do crossbow bolts have completely different penetration properties in comparison to bows? are they maybe more efficient at dealing a destructive blows against armor, even if it doesnt injure the opponent at all, but at least slowly chewing up and eroding heavier armor in comparison to bows that only really are able to penetrate and poke you to death?
    are crossbows maybe capable of dealing blows with enough kinetic energy to the heavy, full helmets of the enemies to just knock the enemy out with a concussion, even if it doesnt penetrate at all? (no way, right?)
    or were crossbows only popular with christians for containing a cross?

    • @eucalyptusdreadlord1552
      @eucalyptusdreadlord1552 Před 6 lety +12

      Onetwo Threefour Powerful longbows required far more strength and skill. Also, you can keep a crossbow loaded unlike a normal bow.

    • @MrDadhhg
      @MrDadhhg Před 6 lety +12

      Crossbows were most useful in sieges, as you can have people with loaded crossbows waiting for targets of opportunity to present themselves and engage at a moments notice. With bows the time to draw aim and fire is too long to engage something like a defender popping their head up to survey the situation, or running along the walls, while a crossbow can be waiting for as long as the shooter wishes. They are also more useful in confined areas due to their more compact nature, such as in a tunnel.
      Bows also have much higher strength requirements meaning smaller framed people tend to be better off with a crossbow if they need to shoot anything reasonably armored.

    • @MiddKnightAlphaOmega
      @MiddKnightAlphaOmega Před 6 lety +6

      The number 1 advantage of a crossbow over an English longbow is the training requirement. English longbowmen started training from an early age to build the muscles (&skeletal support structure for said muscles) required to operate that famous bow, while you could realistically train the average peasant in a few days. Other long bows and hunting bows did exist at the time, and could be used with less training over-all, but those bows tended to still require more general training and experience than a crossbow did.

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 Před 6 lety +3

      The good old famous Battle of Agincourt prove that no handheld single person bolt projectile weapon can deal anything against properly armored knights.
      Crossbow take signficantlonger time to load but a newb can be out into the field at day 0, while Longbow men or anyother traditional type bow take years of training.
      Both are pointy stick try to punch throught something, penetration were archive by the force the arrow tip apply to whatever surface they come into contact to, which with some physics and math, are related to Kinetic Energy which related to velocity and mass, so no, penetration mechanism is identical.

    • @onetwothreefour3957
      @onetwothreefour3957 Před 6 lety +3

      thanks for all the answers, but what about recurve bows, though? those are much smaller than the english longbows and are fairly easy to handle.
      tunnels? how and when? i have never heard of battles in tunnels, especially not in the context of crossbows being more efficient in tunnels than normal bows

  • @SanTEXNeeK
    @SanTEXNeeK Před 6 lety

    That background music..... The only thing I could think of is AoE1. Thank you for nostalgia Skall! And of course for your videos they're great to watch!

  • @PureHayabusa
    @PureHayabusa Před 6 lety

    Never thought i'd see something commercial that makes Joerg's creations look simple and quick to operate

  • @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
    @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas Před 6 lety +3

    Shoot in the general direction....
    Fart in the general direction.
    Fixed it

  • @klassehkhornate9636
    @klassehkhornate9636 Před 6 lety +6

    It must shoot pommels for maximum lethality

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

    My favorite CZcamsrs, shooting of my favorite historical weapons! :D

  • @IamGulzow
    @IamGulzow Před 6 lety

    What a beautiful crossbow. Thanks for another great review.

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven Před 6 lety +10

    With that slow as molasses crossbow, this make wonder what will happen if a medieval army got a fairly fast & powerful repeating crossbow like "Joerg Sprave" (slingshot channel) made? Would it change or revolutionize medieval warfare in range weaponry as we know it?

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Před 6 lety +11

      Croz Raven I've heard the Chinese had repeating crossbows during Sun tzu's time. But that was from deadliest warrior so no idea if that's even remotely accurate

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions Před 6 lety +15

      Yes, the chinese repeating crossbow was a real thing. However the power was very weak.

    • @Depwhattube
      @Depwhattube Před 6 lety +2

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow

    • @Enmerkar_of_Uruk
      @Enmerkar_of_Uruk Před 6 lety +2

      I know the ones from the Boxer Rebellion were cheap mass-produced ones for peasants, but I'm guessing there might be higher quality ones with more power?

    • @appberry4970
      @appberry4970 Před 6 lety +4

      Croz Raven Tl Dr: there was simply no need. They didn't really need repeating crossbows at this power level because it took so little training to use. They simply trained hundreds of men to use it. Then they would shoot it off in volleys to get the required effect. Staggering the ranks ment you could have some men firing while others reloaded and thus then need for high powered repeating crossbows was diminished. Plus pulling back the string for repeating shots would have taken a long time so repeating high powered crossbows would have been almost pointless.

  • @mrspidey80
    @mrspidey80 Před 6 lety +5

    Yoren disliked this.

  • @Rivers256
    @Rivers256 Před 6 lety

    Very nice. Looks like a lot of fun to shoot.

  • @KoSiNeK
    @KoSiNeK Před 6 lety

    That last shot of disappearing bolt was awesome! :D

  • @lowlypeasant
    @lowlypeasant Před 6 lety +6

    Seems wildly impractical for battlefield conditions.

    • @Tyranzor64
      @Tyranzor64 Před 6 lety +21

      PaulTurbo the idea was to have lots people with these shooting at the enemy from long range or from arrow slits in castle walls

    • @heavymetla666
      @heavymetla666 Před 6 lety +7

      PaulTurbo you have to think about the amount of people shooting those things. Normally you would have dozens of people taking turns shooting like when armies had muskets also they were most likely behind cover like in a castle or fort.

    • @breaden4381
      @breaden4381 Před 6 lety +3

      If you’ve got an hour to shoot at people it’s pretty good.

    • @noahpatton3023
      @noahpatton3023 Před 6 lety +5

      Tyranzor Katastrophe the big advantage with this is that anyone use use it. Longbowmen were expensive soldiers because they had to train every day in order to have to strength to draw a 100 to 140 pound longbow. But a crossbow like this doesn’t require the strength or training of a bow. That’s one of the main reasons they were so popular.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Před 6 lety +2

      that is why you don't send crossbowmen into battle by tehmselfs, they also carried a shield with a stand to protect themselfs from enemy arrows while loading.

  • @swervituredesigns952
    @swervituredesigns952 Před 6 lety

    Great vid: nothing fancy but you've clearly developed an advanced sense for how to perform informative comparisons. Keep them coming (videos, that is, not projectiles).

  • @duchessskye4072
    @duchessskye4072 Před 6 lety +1

    Oh boi, I've been waiting for this!

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer Před 6 lety +1

    The music around 5:00 with the modern crossbow is HILARIOUS!

  • @Tellos
    @Tellos Před 6 lety

    Always interesting to see older projectile weapons, as they become the foundation for later firearms. Cause if they hadn o reason to beleive a fast movign projectile could peirce armor it'd never have been made into firearms later. So seeing these mechanical systems is always a joy for me. Thanks Skall.

  • @kksmith244
    @kksmith244 Před 6 lety

    This channel doesn't help my waiting anxiety for mount and blade bannerlord at all. Awesome twangy toy! 😄

  • @emilywalla8958
    @emilywalla8958 Před 6 lety

    ahhh this is so cool, hope you're enjoying it!

  • @KingDylan234
    @KingDylan234 Před 6 lety

    OH MY GOD IT'S HERE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT FOR MONTHS

  • @stefanodogg280
    @stefanodogg280 Před 6 lety

    Enjoyed this one so much I almost forgot to add the like. Planning to make these once my new shop is finished

  • @thegeneral123
    @thegeneral123 Před 6 lety

    I've been watching Tods updates on making this!

  • @nemojov6917
    @nemojov6917 Před 6 lety +1

    i like the tech music you put in when you used the modern compound crossbow

  • @venn2001ad
    @venn2001ad Před 6 lety

    Nice choice of music for the modern crossbow, Mr. Skall. It certainly reinforces your idea of "unfair comparison." xD

  • @TheStygian
    @TheStygian Před 6 lety

    I love the sound it makes.

  • @MountainManThan
    @MountainManThan Před 6 lety

    That was really cool! Well done.

  • @CouchLord1
    @CouchLord1 Před 6 lety

    I just smile to myself imagining a large battle in an open field, men clashing steels, adrenaline pumping, bodies dropping arrows flying, and Jimmy over there furiously spinning the crank to load his crossbow and trying to look tuff while doing so.

  • @TheTransforcer
    @TheTransforcer Před 6 lety

    That winch mechanism is super cool!

  • @Jaydoog04
    @Jaydoog04 Před 6 lety

    This reload time is exhilarating!

  • @joe1940
    @joe1940 Před 6 lety

    Very cool. Now I want to buy an old school crossbow. Great video.

  • @patrickbourne3819
    @patrickbourne3819 Před 6 lety

    Thank you I have been looking forward to this. Could you do a video on how it works?

  • @juliobalmaseda7527
    @juliobalmaseda7527 Před 6 lety

    A factor to consider is also return speed, as in the speed at which a bow returns to original shape. Though it may seem like a bow with high draw weight may deliver a faster shot many times it won't because its made of a stiffer material and takes more time to return to zero. I recommend book 1 of the Bowyer's Bible series.

  • @namelessentity5851
    @namelessentity5851 Před 5 lety

    Quite shocked at it's lack of penetration against padded armor, I always thought these things, practically artillery pieces, would easily pierce plate mail. I have heard that silk was used in making lamellar armour, as it's properties somehow can slow down an arrow. Anyhow, awesome video! I now know more then I did before. Stay gold, Huskarl Skallagrim.

  • @MikeeCZ
    @MikeeCZ Před 6 lety

    That portable mic you have on you is really good, at times i thought it was a voice over but it was not

  • @reececrump8483
    @reececrump8483 Před 6 lety

    i love your music choices

  • @LeVraiPoio
    @LeVraiPoio Před 6 lety

    I don't know if the trigger is sensible, but sometimes these types of heavy crossbow or tower crossbow have a little safety "U" to put over the trigger. You may want to get one if the trigger is sensible, to keep it from shooting prematurely for 2 reasons.
    I got a friend who got his fingertip caught in there when the swoosh happened, you don't that to happen. And secondly, shooting blank hurts the piece of equipement because the force that can't be transmitted to the projectile ends up making it all shake.

  • @Plumjelly
    @Plumjelly Před 6 lety

    It looks like the fletchings on the bolts could be moved back about an inch while still clearing the string. That would make them fly better.
    Cutting edges are the key to penetrating soft, fiber-based armour like this. Spike points tend to just get jammed between the fibers (as seen in the video). Think of how much easier it is to cut a piece of rope, compared to breaking it in tension. It would be interesting to see a test using some very sharp, cut-on-contact broadheads.

  • @kevintessier3760
    @kevintessier3760 Před 6 lety

    I like how the music changes for the modern crossbow.

  • @zaqzilla1
    @zaqzilla1 Před 6 lety

    The new Skallagrim workout regiment! Constantly readying medieval crossbows! Order the workout video today! lol

  • @jacklonghearse9821
    @jacklonghearse9821 Před 6 lety +1

    *TODSTUFF ROCKS!*

  • @The_LIC
    @The_LIC Před 6 lety

    Would've expected this giant thing to go all the way through the gambeson, can't wait to see how it fares against plate armour or some kind.

  • @michaelb6903
    @michaelb6903 Před 6 lety

    nice editing with the different music for the crossbows @Skallagrim :)

  • @michaelweber4072
    @michaelweber4072 Před 6 lety

    Seeing those slow-mo shot really makes you wonder what it's like getting hit with one of those bolts.

  • @MegaAdeny
    @MegaAdeny Před 6 lety

    You should do some tests to find out what bolt weight is most efficient to use with the crossbow. Surely they have to be pretty darned heavy to get the most out of the draw weight.

  • @behrangkhosravi3157
    @behrangkhosravi3157 Před 6 lety

    Could you use a marker to mark the length of penetration when you are doing this type of test and you can pick up the thrusting object to hold in front of the camera to give a clearer picture

  • @pommel47
    @pommel47 Před 6 lety

    The bolts that go with the new CB look very professionally made and work very well. Was thick dry rawhide ever used as armor in dry weather ? I think it might be stronger against penetration than leather.

  • @JETWTF
    @JETWTF Před 6 lety

    That particular swallowtail point is a hunting point not combat. The combat version isn't as wide, and you can see why, against a gambeson the width dissipates all it's energy before it penetrates deep enough to cause a significant wound.

  • @woodsmanforlife1677
    @woodsmanforlife1677 Před 6 lety

    Great video, thanks for sharing!

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf Před 6 lety

    A little nitpick:
    as long as the bolt/arrow/wahteveryouthrow doesn't completely penetrate the target and keeps on flying it dumps all its energy into the target.
    The difference is just how they do it. The big heavy bolt that gets stopped at the outer layers mostly acts like a blunt force - like getting punched. The sleeker lighter carbon bolt will transfer a lot of its energy into the flesh, ripping it apart in the wound-channel and making healing slower.

  • @SeaforgedArtifacts
    @SeaforgedArtifacts Před 6 lety

    Maybe add a test firing a modern carbon bolt from the windlass crossbow? It would give a better comparison of the relative power of each bow

  • @baronvonbeans9887
    @baronvonbeans9887 Před 6 lety

    What if you could fashion a sight for the very end of it? A rough estimation of where the bolts going attached to it similarly to the stirrup?

  • @MrDoomsdayBomb
    @MrDoomsdayBomb Před 6 lety

    Love the music! I would suggest some dungeon synth for your next works :)