Which Organic Fertilizer Should You Buy for Your Vegetable Garden: Don't Get Fooled or Ripped Off!
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- All organic granular fertilizer are pretty much made up of the same basic ingredients. Don't over pay per pound and there is absolutely no need to buy different fertilizers for different flowers and vegetables.
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Such an informative and money saving video. Thanks for helping us save $$ and not sweat the small stuff.
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I llike your focus on frugality. Thank you for all your videos. I am a social worker and appreciate the path you have taken...inspiring!
My two cents: I use to buy packaged fertilizer with chicken manure. We have raccoons that made the rounds in our neighborhood. Before I started storing fertilizer in a sealed can they tore holes and turned over everything in my shed looking for it. I do use Dr. Earth not because of the packaging but the ingredients. I don’t have a large garden therefore don’t need to buy fertilizer in bulk and don’t always make enough compost. I happen to like their product even if it costs a bit more.
Cheers. I was and LCSW-C btw. Good luck this year.
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You did a video about this same thing maybe a couple of years ago, and it was a game changer for me. I just buy whatever is cheapest and on sale, no matter what the label says it is. Thanks for doing this again.
Yep. I repeat many as each year is for new gardeners and I tend to make them in real time. So much cheaper right.
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Im in Canada. Never saw an organic fertilizer on sale here. You americans get better deals
Thanks for the added info! Already a member, but you are saving me so much money! Worth the extra money for sure!
Very appreciated. Have a great week. One goal is to help people have more to spend on the garden and not fertilizers.
I have been watching you for years and following just as long. I learned this long ago and use this advice every harvest season. Glad you are passing the same information along to new gardeners! Keep helping the new growers Garry!
Thanks for hanging around. You will see some of the same info but it is to get it out to new Gardeners just getting started.
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Appreciate honest growing advice
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Gary, I cannot appreciate enough the wonderful videos you create. You make it simple and to the point. I learned a lot from you and I keep on learning. Thank you so much for everything and making me a better backyard gardener.
Very glad to help and good luck this year.
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Thank you for explaining. Great information!
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Another well made video! Thanks again for your time!
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Such depth of knowledge and clarity
Very glad to help. Good luck this year.
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I love your voice. So relaxing to listen to you talk . I trust your opinion too ! Great video as usual. You’ve helped me a lot. 😊
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Excellent advice here, thank you.
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This is some great common sense in video form 👊🏻🌻👊🏻
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My first year gardening I got hooked into the tomato tone and then the second year too. I learned last year that fertilizer is just a basic numbers game, not plant/veggie specific. Then I hit on amazon clearancing out large bags of "citrus" tree fertilizer. 5 3 3 Got it for about .40/lb.
Thats a great deal.
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Great explanation! Thank you
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Thank You. Great job on the video
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Great information I like slow release.😊
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THANKS. GREAT VIDEO GARY 👍
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What an excellent informative video. Thank you so much for taking the time. I was literally adding all this stuff individually and my Amazon cart makes so much more sense to purchase just one large bag. Thanks for your time phenomenal information here.
Glad to help. Just one type is 100% fine.
Glad to help. Just one bag type is all you really need.
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Sooooo many people do not understand "omri certified organic" and "organic" i appreciate you constantly doing your best to remind folks if it was ever alive its "organic" but not necessarily pesticide free orgnic per se...
It gets so confusing on the commercial side
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Here is the thing, contaminants or pesticides in fertilizers is not anything anyone needs to worry about its not a thing, just like synthetic fertilizers are not contaminated they will not harm you or your plants at all. People need to stop with the misinformation campaigns to crush anyone who doesnt agree. If anything because synthetic is just natural ingredients processed to remove contaminants which is the synthetic part of it purifying it its cleaner than organic and even less likely to have any heavy metals or etc. Some organic fertilizers are loaded with high levels of heavy metals.
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Good ratio is 3.1.2 to feed the soil. I only feed my soil in the containers. Nitrogen once a month on my raised beds. You are so correct READ THE LABEL OF INGREDIENTS. To much marketing. When I first started gardening I looked at the front cover with all the marketing garbage. I know better now. Thank you for spreading the word.
What to you use for nitrogen for your raised beds?
@@gianfrancopaladino961Blood Meal mostly or a high nitrogen fertilizer. Be careful using blood meal. To much is not good for the environment. I only use it once a month and only if my plants need it. If your soil is good you don't have to fertilize just prepare your beds at the beginning of the season with compost with manure and a good amendment. Use lots of mulch.
Great tip. Thanks
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Agreed!
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I was headed to the store to buy all 3😂! Thanks Gary!!
Just one work just as well. Good luck.
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Wow! Such great points! Always like to save space and money.
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Tomato tone is a winner for me. I also use miracle grow plant food.
Just pick a granular and a water soluble and you are set.
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Thank you for this informative video and all of the others that you post-so much common sense! I also appreciate that you help us watch our wallets. So much marketing hype in this industry can be confusing.
It is confusing and Im very glad to help.
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I've got to where I wait until the summer season is over before I buy fertilizer. It always goes on sale, and I can buy a lot more for less money. This past year, I bought several cases (limited to 4 bags per purchase) of the dr. Earth's you showed for $1 per pound. I agree, that stuff is a bit too expensive.
That is the best way to do it.
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I tend to use bone and blood meal and topping with good compost. I will use some fish emulsion for a little boost.
That works
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Since making tons of great compost I use much less fertilizers. I do use when amending beds at the end of the season and more so in my potted plants.
If you can get to composting it really is the way to go for the garden and wallet.
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I have stopped making compost and may occasionally buy it in but went full synthetic fertilizer finally mostly due to ineffectiveness of organic fertilizers, high costs and heavy metal contamination.
I just bought some dr earth to give life to my potting soil from last year in my pepper pots and added compost. The compost didn't have any analysis on it as far as an npk or anything but it did have composted chicken manure in it so I combined it with dr. Earth and my old potting soil.
That will work
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I like whatever is on sale. I have two big bags of plant tone for 14$ the 26 lb bags and I got Dr Earth for $3 per bag (3lb bags) at Home Depot at the end of the season. I learned that from Gary. Also if a bag has a hole I ask to mark it down. They will usually take $$$ off.
Sales and bulk is the way to do it.
Nature Safe 8-5-5 is good
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Thanks for the info Gary. Last year I used Bone meal during the spring and summer and my tomatoes and peppers grew like crazy but never grew any fruit. I blamed the Tx heat. Until fall came and I switched to garden tone. My garden flourished. I had so many tomatoes and peppers. Luckily Tx 1st freeze wasn’t until Jan. So I got something out of that garden. Not sure if it was the fertilizer or the weather. This year I’ll be using just the Garden tone to verify. Lol hoping it wasn’t the weather. I’m sure by June TX will be in the 100’s again. 🥵 It’s currently Feb and I’m enjoying this beautiful 80 degree weather. 😂 🤷🏽♀️
It was definitely the heat. Same thing happened to my tomatoes. The heat kept them from flowering then when the cooler weather came finally got tomatoes and they didn’t stop producing until frost. Had tons of tomatoes when no one else did!
Bone meal doesnt have much nitrogen and it takes a while to break down. Much of it will breakdown slowly over the years so a Garden Tone is great to use now.
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@user-zp6hp7lo8n just use a balanced fertilizer for most vegetables and do it regularly. Every 10 to 14 days. If growing in containers every 7 to 10 days. Containers will lose more nutrients than in ground. Whether it’s 5-5-5 or 10-10-10 or 4-6-3. Organic fertilizer take much longer to break down and become available to plants. Synthetic fertilizers are perfectly safe to use such as Miracle Grow. And are available immediately. Happy gardening!
Good video. I buy a 40 pound bag of alfalfa pellets for $22 at a home garden center which has an NPK of 2.5-0.5-2.5. It can be used with vegetable plants and on the lawn. Like you say, all the products you show are expensive and pretty much the same. Some people use dried dog food.
Organic fertilizers work slowly, how slow depends on the fertilizer and they improve your soil. Chemical fertilizers work fast but do nothing to improve the soil. After decades of use they can increased nitrate levels (salts). You can also use composted cow manure which has an NPK of .5-.5-.5 and costs about $3 for a 40 pound bag.
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Garden tone is what I stick to. Just under $29 for 27lbs.
Yep. That is a great price comparatively speaking to the rest.
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I've learned so much from this channel. I'm going into my fourth season of taking gardening seriously. I have two 24' x 15' plots and I'm seriously considering taking down some mature trees to add another 75' x 25' area on the other side of my 2 acre property. I start most of my plants indoors and it's been really satisfying. I like the Espoma granular and for water soluble fertilizers, Agrothrive and Alaska fish emulsion. I credit Gary for teaching me to look out for whatever is on sale later in the summer and using that next year. One day I hope to have a garden like his.
So glad to help and congrats on 4 years, Sale is truly the key. Good luck
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Love your channel. My garden is more successful every season, largely due to your info. I'm trying to incorporate rabbit manure into my fertilizing routine. I know the NPK of the pure manure, but I'm having difficulty finding the proper ratio to make tea. I compost it and make my own potting soil, but I'd like to use it in addition as a liquid fertilizer throughout the season. If you could recommend a couple reliable resources I could check out, I'd be so greatful 🙏
So glad to help. I just answered that one for you. I dont think there is a ratio really. It might not be out there.
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My local Rural king had 2 of the 18 pound bags of Tomato Tone last year for $16 a bag. I used it on all of my raised beds and had the best garden Ive had in years. I always fertilize but like many others I used 10-10-10, 12-12-12 or whatever the local places had. This stuff worked way better. Not sure why but it did. I love your videos Gary. You have the no nonsense approach to gardening and I lie that.
I did the same, was the best deal I got besides our compost which I don’t always have enough of
Glad to help and that is the cost saving I am talking about by buying in bulk.
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I use 10-10-10- or 15-15-15 but mines commercial grade I have a farm supply store that sells me smaller quantities of commercial farm fertilizers so i tend to get the good stuff.
Tomato tone and miracle grow lawn food work for me on my lawn and garden. I also like to mix a compost tea which is fast absorbing. Can’t seem to make onions grow for some reason.
I use the espoma product he is talking about. A little goes a long way. I think the reason the company has so many types of fertilizer for 2 reasons. First it sells more fertilizer if it's labeled for different applications for the company and second, the average consumer doesn't have to calculate or understand NPK ratios. A Consumer has tomato plants, sees Tomato Tone and buys it. It simplifies the process for people
Thanks. It's a great product.
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Here in Illinois we have 'Chic N Poo ' at $11 for 25 lb bag. At 2-4-3 there's no danger of burning your plants. Works fine.
That works well at a great price.
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FYI blueberries can't uptake nitrogen nitrates fertilizer. Ammonium sulfate 21-0-0 is good for blueberries and helps with keeping ph down.
Some plants are very fertilizer specific some don't really care.
I use liquid Neptune's fish and seaweed with unsulfured Blackstrap molasses.
Had up to six feet of growth from my apple trees last year.
They can if the pH is in a good range. Ive been growing them for years.
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Yeah, I always read the ingredients on organics. And I think they put in a bunch of different things so they can charge more.
A few components is all that's really needed, or one if using compost or manure.
Going to the feed store and bulk buying components is usually much cheaper. Like you do for alfalfa pellets.
Do you some feed store names?
@@gianfrancopaladino961 No, they are all mom and pap stores and generally don't ship unless you're ordering pallets. You need to do a local search of your area.
Search for "feed and grain".
Good tip on bulk for sure.
@@gianfrancopaladino961 They are pretty much all local small places that don't deliver unless you want an entire pallet of something. Search feed and grain for your area.
Hi Gary thanks for this video and all the great info on organic fertilizers! Do you apply them weeks before you start planting your garden so they can decompose and be ready to feed your plants at planting? or you fertilize at planting only, or both? Thanks so much!!
Both. The granular is great for breaking down over the season and feeding. The water soluble is the immediate feed.
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Thank you. Very helpful. I usually buy Epsoma and Down to Earth. I will definitely be paying more attention to the ingredients going forward.
Good luck this year.
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I listened to about 10 - 15 videos of Dr. Bruce Bugbee and he teaches in his university courses that organic fertilizers have to be eaten and digested by All the different life sources in the soil to break down into the exact same thing as the so called "chemical" fertilizers. And even lab tests CAN NOT tell the difference between what comes from the organic and the "chemical" fertilizers. He explains that the use of the word (salt) between professionals and everyday people is NOT the same. Most think of the (sodium chloride in their kitchen salt-shaker) when they hear SALT and the combination of sodium plus chloride is what they are actually eating. Phorphorus is a metal {which burns when exposed to water and air} and can not be used by ANY plant --- it has to be broken down into a phosphate (P2O5) which has to be further broken into the compound phosphoric acid) which is "technically" a compound before the plant can use/absorb it at the roots. And lab tests CAN NOT tell if (Phosphoric acid) came from organic or if it is from a chemical. He also teaches the BEST ratio is actually a 3-1-2 of fertilizer for "All around use". Which does explain why the Miracle Grow 24 - 8 -16 works so well. He also DOES NOT recommend using a 'balanced fertilizer" like 5-5-5 or 10-10-10 or 13-13-13 & so on, because plants are like people with different needs. If you ate equal parts of protein(N) - fat(P) carbohydrates(K), every meal, you would NOT be healthy.
Yes, but the chemical fertilizer starves the life in the soil when it bypasses it. There are huge pieces of land that can't grow anything without the chemicals now. Why garden in a way that kills the earth when you can garden in a way that leaves the earth more fertile than before?
I agree with his points. The balanced is really not that important as NPK of a beds varies greatly. Depending on how you scatter it and all that, the plant types, how much last year took from the soil, you dont really have a balanced bed of 5-5-5 and such. The plants unlike people dont glutton themselves, they take what they need. Though jacking up N an be an issue.
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I've never looked at these ingredients, but I, too, buy Espoma. I always wondered why it tinks so much...chicken manure.
Yep. Manures and animal parts.
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My Costco has Hollytone for $17.69 for 27 lbs. Only difference is it has some sulfur to lower the ph of the soil so you may need to offset with lime if you use a lot. But at 65 cents a pound it seems worth the effort.
That is a good price.
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The only exception might be the Berry Fertilizers that often contain peletized sulfur.
For more acidity.
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You are right "however" Higher nitrogen for vegetative stage , and higher phosphorous for bloom is a proven fact if you want better results . it's common sense if you need 2 bags to finish the season to buy two different NPK's if they are the same price and or brand .
I dont disagree with you, what I am saying is that the NPK are present at those stages. Remember many gardens are just compost which is well below a 1-1-1 NPK. The plants take what they need at each stage.
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This is mostly true. Key word mostly. Research every plant you grow and you’ll find some require specialized nutrients and soil conditions. However you definitely don’t need a single fertilizer for every type of plant. My blueberries are very finicky in my area and require a ton of berry specific fertilizer with high acidity and elemental sulfur to keep acidity up. If I put that on all my plants I would end up with half my garden dead. I recommend just getting a general even fertilizer and then some for each stage of a plants life, growth flower and rooting. Then if you have special cases get those and they will last you a long time seeing as you only use them a couple times at most
Generally speaking
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The exception you this is fertilizer for acid loving plants. You need the sulfur to keep the PH down
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Have you checked out/tried Microlife fertilizer? Seems like a good one to me.
I have not.
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I like the doctor earth but I only really buy what's on clearance at the end of the year. If its there I look for it, I don't really like granular fertilizers, don't know why honestly I guess I just like how finer powders spread.
I do really like esponia bone meal.
Sales are good.
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Very informative! What do you think about adding beneficial nematodes or Mycorrhizal fungi to the soil of a brand new garden? Are they worth it or just a gimmick?
Good soil has a lot of that. I would no say a gimmick but dont over pay for it. A lot biology is already in the soil.
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If your garden was just created on top of an area that was previously lawn I would definitely recommend using Dr. Earth's products. All the microbes added will definitely help supplement the new soil you put down on top. Lawns are typically chemically fertilized for green growth and treated w weed killers and fungicides year in and year out. All that will leave the soil below depleted of the necessary microorganisms that will help vegetables flourish. I would suggest you try Dr Earth's for several growing seasons. I think it is the best ... especially for newly established gardens.
It's crazy that Dr. Earth is so expensive. I only tried it once but I wasn't impressed with it. I've been pretty loyal to Down to Earth because the texture is good and the results have been great
Cost is the key for and if you find what you like stick with it for sure.
Cow manure is what I used
Its tried and true.
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Gary how about fish emulsion does it work well
Yep it works well
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Is it better to buy Alfalfa pellets, chicken manure, bone meal, blood meal and just mix them together if youre low on compost?
I cant say better but it is often lot cheaper. And you cover the main needs of the plants.
Gary - what is your opinion on fish emulsion fertilizers?
They are good water soluble fertilizers. I used Alaska brand for many years. I now use Agrothrive. Less odor and more balance.
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Do you have a video on water soluble fertilizers?
I do I am sure. Nothing recent but I will be making one this year.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDENI would love to see a video on liquid fertilizer because we don’t compost. We just used Miracle Grow potting soil and peat moss to plant and are using Miracle Grow water soluble fertilizer once a week. Right now the tomatoes and peppers are doing great in containers. Lots of small tomatoes and peppers starting. We have strawberries starting to grow and green beans starting to bud. I just am not sure if we should continue with Miracle Grow because the Nitrogen is so high and if it will continue to help the fruit and vegetables to grow. Should we use something else?
Gary, FYI I couldn’t get the products screen to turn off. It kept blocking my view of what you were saying.
Thanks. Thats not normal and was on YT's end. There is nothing we do on our end to manage that. It should correct.
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What is your opinion on blood meal and crab meal?
Blood meal is good for increasing nitrogen where needed. But it should be used in a specific way, not all over. I havent tried crab meal.
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what is on the alfalfa pellets u but from feed store????
Nothing but you can call the company and ask what sprays they use.
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Another thing to keep in mind is for the vegan gardner, there are varieties that use kelp meal...BUT please understand that kelp meal is definitely not a complete fertalizer. And it's incredibly expensive. Manure, compost...all these things are not necessarily fertilizers. They help the soil microbiome....same thing with these products. These are NOT immediately avaiable to your plants...really these are foods for your soil fauna to eat...poop out...THEN it's in a form that is available for your plant.
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What is the difference between different types? I bought a giant bag for camilas and azaelas by accident so i can go ahead and use in my raised beds?
Nothing really. A little more of this or that. You have something that probably has a bit more sulfur to create some acidity. Using it in your beds is fine. If you are worried a little garden lime neutralizes the acidity.
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i was preparing my beds and i added a little goat fertilizer, chicken fertilizer, and some alfalfa pellets. Then i covered it back over with mulch. Did i way overdue the Nitrogen? I am sitting here getting a little worried.😂
Nope I think you are good.
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Many will say non-burning organic fertilizer. Then I add 1Tbs, instantly locks out my plants turning them yellow or it completely burns them!
Hmmm. I also recommend using them at 1/2 strength at times
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I wonder if you can help me, Gary. I live in a cold climate so im trying to grow dwarf tomatoes, cucumbers and herbs indoor using shop lights and a south facing sunny window. I would like to fertilize my plants organically however i heard that i cannot bring compost or composted manure indoors due to insects and pathogens. I also heard that there is no soil life in indoor potting mixes so organic nutrients would not be bio available for the plants. I am doomed to only use chemical soluble fertilizers?
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I dont mind using the chemical types indoors. They dont harm us or plants. Organic is great for the soil outside where things have ecosystems. But you could use Agrothrive indoors. It is water soluble and organic. I am affiliated with them and you can find info in my newer video descriptions. It has much less odor than fish emulsion and I think it's the best for an indoor organic. Good luck.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thank you for your reply, Gary! The reason why I want to avoid chemical fertilizers is because I want to be more self sufficient in case of societal collapse there will be no fertilizer production anymore.
Hi! By mistake I bought 10-5-10 (2 LARGE bags) fertilizer. Since I don’t want to waste, will my flowering perennials/annuals benefit or be hindered by my applying it? THANKS!!!
They should be fine. Good luck
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i'm seeing garden tone, at just over $1/lb, at home depot: $29 for a 27lb bag
Excellent price.
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Fort organic chicken manure. Where do you source it that it doesn't have any pesticides chemicals in the manure itself?
I hav to trust what's in the bag. But I dont get bulk manure. The best way is to look for local farms and talk with them
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Nature safe 8-5-5. Seven Springs Farm. That will save you money.
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I'm not an expert by a long shot, but wouldn't berrytone be something more acidic for things like blueberries? Which is necessary for blueberries.
They can include more sulfur for lowering pH but it really isn't significant and it will say for acidic loving plants usually. Verses just saying for fruits and berries.
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When I buy organic fertilizers its whatevers on sale and whatever has a slightly higher potassium ratio because I grow a lot of stuff that needs a extra bit of potassium.
I am mostly moving towards full synthetic due to massive cost savings its a lot cheaper and is just as good and most of the time i have micronutrients in various synthetic blends that organics just dont have. I ran into chasing a lot of nutrient deficiencies with organic fertilizers and trying to identify which nutrient was short and correcting it and then getting another problem.
That plan will work.
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I came back to say i went to the local garden shop and the prices on all espoma fertilizers went up like 8$ each over the last month im now no longer going to buy it cause its absolutely more expensive than other brands or synthetic and why would i pay that, i can go get a good quality pro grade synthetic granular for $20 for a 50 pound bag from my Farm/ag supply store i just dont want to buy organic if its more expensive for a 8 pound bag than a 50 pound bag. @@THERUSTEDGARDEN
Is mushroom compost worth it? It's just mycelium mixed with wood chips and other organic matter. Not sure how useful it is for peppers, tomatoes, etc.grown in containers . I usually mix some in with my store bought soils but maybe it's not worth the money.
I have used Mushroom Compost on my Dragon fruit and it was well worthwhile imo.
Again it is about the price. I would do what you do, mix some into the planting area or container and stretch a bag. It should multiply on its own.
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It would be interesting to send these to a lab for a test to see if they are really selling what they claim they are.
I agree
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You don’t have to be a mad scientist, lol
Just the basics lol.
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Synthetic 10-10-10 works the best.
It works and you dont even need to use it full strength.
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Dr earth is 3.5 per pound. Espoma is 3.75 per pound
Espoma is so much cheaper per pound here. DE is crazily expensive.
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I use chicken and rabbit poop from my chickens and rabbits. It's what I have and what I can afford
It's better than the organic fertilizers.
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When i lived in bama you could get a load of chicken crap cheap just dump it and when you see red worms in it you ready to go
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Coop Poop fertilizer is cheaper and will do the job perfectly. Fish meal, kelp, alfalfa meal, green sand, bone meal, Humus is all bunk imo. It’s wasteful. Perhaps people feel better buying it like people that buy very expensive dog food thinking is so much better. It’s all marketing. I’m in Minnesota and gotta lot of worms in my soil. That’s free fertilizer in my gardens with the worm castings.
Perfect. Worms are always a good sign and I agree cheaper doesnt mean less effective.
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you always here that your plants only need NPK. That is not true, adding azomite to your soil will improve the minerals in your soil that your plant also needs. There is a lot more I do but this is a start.
That is what the use primarily. Azomite is fine if you dont have minerals. Most soils have it. Clay soils have just about everything in the micro end. If you have system works, perfect. Comosted, decayed matter, especially leaves brings in minerals too.
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Maybe I need to start selling 💩 from my chickens & rabbits
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