RADIOMASTER RANGER 1W ELRS TX MODULE - THE BEST OF THEM ALL
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- Radiomaster ranger ExpressLrs TX Module for FPV and Freestyle review.
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Fantastic review Ian! No idea how you can put together a quality half-hour review with only about 24hrs notice... you're a beast!
chapeau !
Impressive indeed, given the teardown and testing.
Thanks mate it was a challenge.
So cool to hear that you love the Ranger! 🤩
I hope you will have lots of fun using the Ranger ELRS modules!
The new transmitters look sick, I'm particularly pleased to see a high-gain omni antenna which I'm eyeing to replace an internal one in my Zorro. The Nano variant is probably the first Nano ELRS module worth buying as well. I freaking love everything you guys are doing.
Any chance we can get them in 900mhz as well?
Id love to buy different color LED panels for the 6pos buttons on my tx16s :)
Best review of this product. Because of your simplified review just pre order one. Thank u
wow ... solid hi-quality ELRS TX Module, impressive product!
congratulation Radiomaster and Thanks Ian for this amazing review.
Great review! The Ranger looks to be a really nice, feature packed TX module, but likely more than I'd ever need. I have one of the early HM ES24TX modules and it has never let me down, zero fail safes. If I was in the market for a TX module I think I'd go for the RM Micro + 3 RX combo deal for $59, that's a bargain right there. Love my ELRS and Radiomaster TX16S, kudos to Radiomaster for supporting ELRS!
RT. What he said
Well it’s.. it’s glorious!! Wonderful review Mr. Ian😎
I'm a TBS Crsf user but I'm so excited to see the progress of ELRS and how they are really knocking it out of the park. As always Thanks for the amazing review!
Yeah, me too. I converted to all Crossfire right before ELRS came out. Crossfire is rock solid reliable! Never had a single fail safe. Never had a single even minor issue with anything at all!!! 💯
With FrSky, I had at least one failsafe with every session of flying! The difference is night and day.
But, ELRS built into AIO whoop FC's is very interesting! 👍 Especially the none SPI ones.
Not because Crossfire receivers are so heavy, they only weigh 0.7g, it's the antenna that's where the whole benefit really lies. Putting a crossfire antenna is doable on an 85mm whoop. Done it, without the immortal T antenna and just used the wire that comes with the $25 receivers. But, smaller 75mm or 65mm whoops is where ELRS really would shine for me! Having that little built in tower antenna is sweet!
Looks like I'll be eventually getting a module for the back of my radio and have to trade out the Crossfire module for the ELRS one when flying 65 & 75mm builds. I'm all about getting whoops as lightweight as possible and ELRS is perfect for that! 🪶😎🤘
Yall must be the btw i use arch crowd of the hobby.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I’m jumping into ELRS specifically for my 65/75 whoops, too.
Great presenter and presentation... All your video's explain in a straight forward no bullshit way how things work... in such a way that all that are watching and listening can understand and take on board...be it a newbe or someone experienced in the hobby... Very impressive indeed... And i take my hat off to you and your wealth of electronic knowledge.
138g Wowzers!! Looks a decent module, Great review, still won't temp me away from Ghost just yet.
Thanks for the review Ian
You’re review killed it! All the others are just shills and pretenders. You actually covered the features and didn’t just regurgitate the manual. That’s why I always look forward to your reviews. Keep up the great work!!!!
Love his coverage of the 2W power hack for the ranger...
Just ordered. I have nothing but good faith on RM's products.
All we need now is to some how squeeze the Nano inside the Zorro and a little more battery for the ultimate gamepad style controller
The configurable button colors are pretty cool visual status indicators at a glance such as wattage, etc, looks like the future gold standard for full-size ELRS module. For the nano sized the HappyModel Slim PRO is very similar if these radiomasters are stripped down feature-wise and are also too made of solid cnc.
Great review, thank you. Commenting for the algorithm!
Fantastic review Ian...thks
i should be great to drop power only by switching it off (Disarmed), Thx for another great video, Best regards
Excited to see these products! Anxious to see your take on on Micro so I know which one to spend my money on. Unless you’ve already have a strong opinion on which people should be purchasing?
would love to see a video from Mads tech on step by step FPV backpack setup
Nice 👍
Wasn't that gyro linked low power mode feature available on the Axisflying Thor module?
Wondering if the TX16S equipped with a 2S lithium ion will have enough power to support these modules when RF output is set to 1000mw? Or it is necessary to power the module via its own battery? Thanks for a detailed review!!
A good ELRS from Radiomaster !!
Indeed, and with many thanks to the ELRS team for working with us to make it happen!
@@RadioMasterRC can you guys make a high end game pad radio like the new frsky twin x lite? Elrs and touch screen, I want something like this but not a frsky lol
Impressive review. I'm tempted to switch. I'm still loving my Crossfire...
I'm old.
Elrs had a checkered start in my eyes.
But eventually it has become the top go to rx / tx links out there.
I start flying years ago. Found that CF was so easy and reliable, why switch. I have so much CF crap. Most still working great I might add. The new Ranger is Impressive. I really like that huge black brick on the back for some reason. Leds?, motion sensor?,
Don't know...
Did I mention I'm old?
IF ain't broke and it works don't touch it,I to still run crossfire and even immersion uhf and have zero issues and does all I need it to do flying true long range with fixed wing,yes I'm old to🤣🤣🤣
Imo radiomaster seems to be manufacturing good elrs hardware. This tx seems nice but i would prefer slimmer and cheaper version without lcd so cant wait for for review of the other versions of tx.
I'm sure there was a video about Micro and Nano as well but I can't find it anymore. What happened to it?
How did you get the ts16 to power on the ranger module.
What functionality does Bluetooth have? Just joystick, or it can send telemetry? Thanks for the review!
I lost the motion function on update to 3.2.2, did I not update correctly?
I have a radiomaster tx16s that I primarily use with crossfire. It’s the v1 so I’m looking at grabbing an ELRS module right now.
I also happen to have a x lite pro that I was given and rarely use and I’m thinking I’d like to use it with ELRS. I’m torn between pre ordering one of the new radio master ranger bundles or this Happy Model module: ES24TX Slim Pro ELRS 2.4GHz RC Transmitter Module
I would love to hear opinions on what I should purchase.
Hi, so this module (the bigger one) has wifi and Bluetooth - do you know if it's possible to share telemetry via wifi or bt to trackers like MFD Crossbow Mini?
So for $100, you are getting a ton of cool features - BUT - for $119, you get those features + 2 RP1 RX's and 2 T type antenna - or 1 RP2 RX w/onboard antenna.
Not a bad deal!
Great review sir - this is the first that I've heard about this product 😎
EDIT: The Ranger Micro is $39.99 - but for $59.99, you also get the RX's......
… got the big boy…the other ones bad n frying your radios…
What is the purpose of adding ranger module on radiomaster tx16s max mkii? Does it provide longer range? Im new to fpv drone and really want to know it.
Fantastic review, Ian! Thanks!!! 😃
Radiomaster is just killing it!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks bobby
Will get one as soon a they get listed on AliExpress.
aha, why not get it on our official web? 😏
Do u have a link for the 2 watt mod ? Thanks again for a terrific vid ;)
What protocol does the radio use to communicate with the module? Has anyone used a pi to communicate with these?
Are you planning to take them apart and upload to repair wiki?
5:50 How to setting for use toggle switch to power up module? Thanks
Is possible connect this module to futaba radio?
Those antennas looks sweet. But my Namimno probably is sufficient to last me for awhile.
This is the 1. ELRS Kit i start thinking of replacing my Tracer. i will wait until official tracer lora is out and then i decide. i have already 2-4km range depending on where and how, this is ok for me. Tracer has no fan, which shows me, they solved pcb layout and other stuff without additional cooling, which is good. tracer fits in my loved old taranis, this kit? dont know, i have to check.
Will this fit in a Taranis X9D SE 2019
So all tha features of axis thor por module besides being able to go to 2 watts
Does anyone know how to make it output 2w? The video that showed how has been removed.
Mads Tech looks like Radiomaster has shipped the micro/nano with a fault on external xt30 power.
Nice detailed review... I would have liked to know the current draw at 25mW, 1000mW and 2000mW at 12v
I have the gift RC Cinema 25 how do I switch over to Delores Express with this fpv I have the radiomaster tx16s also
can you update receivers with this module like crossfire?
What's the range on this? As in the distance
I am hoping you have contacts with Radiomaster and can give them some feedback on this module. The problem is with the pins on the adapters. I couldn't see them well enough when I push the adapter in place and can run the risk of bending the pin when the adapter is not pushed in perfectly straight. That can ruin my day. Fortunately I do have some experience and managed not to force the issue. I still wound up with some minor tweaks in two pins. Otherwise the module is great and works as advertised. A bit heavy for the Zorro though.
your referral link is broken in the description
does it come in 900?
Damn this is fire might make me switch off of ghost
Would love to see radiomaster make something like the new frsky twin x lite radios with the touch screens, just to spite them 😂 I’d probably buy it
I would definitely buy it.
I really like the vertical screen layouts
It would be pretty informative to know the oscillator frequency deviation of these TX modules. Could you measure the freq. deviation using some ELRS receivers from different vendors ? Manufacturing quality (e.g. frq. deviation) may have a massive influence on the range and compatibility.
These have been tested by the dev team and they are spot on.
@@MadRC Yes, and no, cause this would only mean that those units send to the dev team delivered spot on but for whatever reason prodution units could later be different.
So I would prefer if you could check that (easily) cause you are independent and the subscribers later could get in touch with you once they face issues with their units.
I have no clue how much work that might be but I guess you have touched this subject before in a video about the issues of some vendors and the implications of the different receiver and tx combinations (different vendors) that could cause issues. Not sure but somehow I can remember a chart I had thought had been from you about the different deviations.
I do not doubt that the ELRS receiver will work but I can remember that at some time they also had production issues cause we had bought 16 x of the TX16S versions in the past and 1 batch of 2 had production issues that had been solved but only after a loss of a plane / crash. It had been supported and fixed by Radiomaster.
@@MadRC i bet matek tested their diversity rx units as well.... Some of them. I think thats why people are suddenly concerned with oscillator specs/tests
Well, now I need one of these. I think the only thing I would also like to see is control of the fan via a temp sensor.
… got the big boy…the other ones bad n frying your radios…
Can it output the 1w or 2w when its only powered from the radio or we need to supply power with the XT30 plug?! Great video, Thank you!
For 2w you want external power. Internal power seems ok on 1W but it depends the radio
Are there going to be any 900Mhz radio master elrs modules in the future?
Looks like almost no one supporting elrs 900 which is sad. I started with elrs 900.
Why has no one showed flight footage?
I would liked to have seen on more emphasis on why we would need a 1W receiver. More power = better performance? That was not really addressed up front. I am asking as a noob. I get a lot of RF interference in my area so will boosting the power help? Is this quantifiable and would like to see examples if so - I am sure this is a great product but I don’t fully understand how it is better from what I already have - mine goes to 500w - a betafpv nano.
I think your only real application would be an autonomus aircraft like a solar wing. Nobody will buy this for freestyle
… got the big boy…hacked 2 w…the other ones bad n frying your radios…
Thanks for the in depth review. Looks interesting indeed.
One thing worries me though. You measure 500mW when 500mW power is set but that should not be the case for a digital data link.
The ImmersionRC RF Power meter cannot measure peaks bit average power only. If you measure any other RC link, no matter if that is Ghost, Crossfire, Frsky or R9, you will only get about 30-50% of the set power level shown on the RF meter as they have a duty cycle of under 50%. If you measure that high, this means it has a duty cycle of either 100% or it transmits at much higher power than actually set on each packet. if it is the first option, then this thing will basically be a massive jammer for other RC links. This should not be allowed at all!
It does peek and average power.
@@MadRC ahhh thanks. didn't know that. just looked up the manual. in this case I am back to "looks interesting" 👍
Wondering why no youtube creators have done any follow up vids on these? There were a bunch of release videos but no one has done any testing vids. I ordered the micro combo package in November and still haven't received it. I know why, I just wish there was more follow up content to let us know how you guys are liking them.
This time of year it’s hard, Iv not been flying mine a lot as I have been using the built in 1W on the boxer but overall there are no issues as far as I’m aware. With these modules they tend to just work.
@Mads Tech when can we expect similar review of Ranger Micro 2.4GHZ ELRS Module?
That’s going live in a few hours. Check back soon.
@@MadRC 👌
Grabbing it for shits and giggles and gonna immediately enable 2w on it and also slap it on my tx16s AND zorro 😂😂😂 currently running the amazing quality namimno tx. Literally attempted elrs 3.0 and it didn’t work out a few weeks ago. Tried again tonight as I learned the ranger is only 3.0 and everything upgraded and works ( and I also manage to slightly fry my toothpick 😅😢)
… got the big boy…the other ones bad n frying your radios…
The only issue might be european customs regarding the mandatory first listen thing ELRS has not been supported in the past and needed a certification for.
I mention this cause I had once ordered an frsky transmitter which was in deed for US and EU which I was not aware of and that one was rejected by the customs and went back the full way to china.
I do not know how you get yours nor if the EU regulations are still relevant for the UK but I guess cause I had seen a review from the UK touching this particular topic a year ago or so for elrs which back then was no issue as it was send as kit you had to solder.
Found it: the LBT version would be needed, listen before talk and also Pavel mention the requirements for these modules like CE marks and so on.
Prototypes can get through customs into the EU, even without CE markings.
Any reason to like this besides the brand (radio master only recently making nice quality radios) and it being cased in aluminium? Like who cares about RGB and programmable buttons I need reliable range, shouldn't you test it's function before touting how amazing this new hardware is
They got the review units a while back. They get an NDA not to tell anyone about it until release date. Ian has had it and had a chance to use it for a while now. He showed the box on a livestream a while back, and teased at it.
Did you test the 2W mode?
… got the big boy…hacked concrete crushing 2w…the other ones bad n frying your radios…
Is this better than the TX16s Mark II Max or Zorro with native ELRS ?
if so... Why? ( I believe 250mw max on both of those...)
will they have a unit with this built in?
this just seems soo bulky and annoying.
The built-in modules are limited to 250mw due to internal power design of the circuitboard.
The externals can be powered via external battery with their tx connectors, and pump out the full 1w
Imo the best setup is a multiprotocol internal, and a full power external for your primary link system.
Then your radio is like a swiss army knife that can fly everything.
Hi, I have Radiomaster TX12 Mark II ELRS and when I connect RANGER to it, nothing happens, I've presses all the button already. Should it work with Radiomaster TX12, maybe somebody had the same problem?
You will need to turn on the external module bay in the model settings. My advice would be to copy your current model or make a new one then under the main middle settings you need to change the RF from Internal to external with CRFS as the protocol.
@@MadRC You Rock! Your advice helped, thank you and all the FPV gods! :)
ohh that is a big boy....
Suit you sir
I'm cursed, almost pulled the plug on the buggy betafpv one yesterday.
This is always the way
Are the antennas rigid? Or can they be bent?
Stiff but will bend on the coax.
@@MadRC That's good to know. As using my current module I need to slightly bend the antenna to fit it in my case.
There is no friggin' way I'm gonna have that huge metal 150g+ box hanging off the back of my radio! That's massive! Not only is it $100, where most others are 60% less than that, but if I've got a module space in the back of my radio, I want it to fit that space, not hang off the back! 😂😳😟
Right! All for the advantage of having the radio go to sleep when you set it down. No thanks!
Ha ha ha,what a whinger
@@M-H433 I don't own a wing. 😜
@@KOrnhOliO1 either do i
No real issue with tx16s mark 2, the handle looking rest keeps everything clear.
Should not slide over battery case.. Its toooo long on lower end! Should be shifted upwards a bit (diffetent mount needed) cause some use an extended (higher) battery case.
As soon as someone comes out with an ELRS receiver that supports 1W telemetry output then I'm switching everything over to this.
But isn't it too big? Why get this when you can just get a smaller cheaper one? And it's not as bulky
First... In your face everyone!
😂
what's the point of a 1w (capable to 2w) elrs tx? you get range for days on 100mw....plus wasn't the whole point of elrs to provide a nice and cheap alternative to crossfire, ghost etc...? $100 isn't cheap lol.
"Range for days on 100mw" i see this claim constantly but my 250mw unit can barely make it to the end of the road.
100mw might be great for an open park but once you get some leaves sticking out in its path you're just gonna drop out of the sky
@@terminsane have you tried a different tx or RX? I’ve 6 quads all running Elrs on various flavours of RX, and I’ve 2 radios with HM TXs both on 100mw and I’ve had zero issues with range in any environment I’ve flown in. Used to failsafe regularly on FrSky XM+ and I’m yet to failsafe on elrs
@@terminsane if your using dynamic power I’d stop using that
Jesus what an amazing idea! Why haven't anyone else though of that before? The buttons and display on the BACK OF THE RADIO that is. What absolute geniuses work at Radiomaster, I'm amazed.. Useless bling; just buy es24tx pro (also 1W, what a coincidence!) and save yourself some money..
…hi hi… got the big boy…hacked to concrete crushing 2w…the other ones bad n frying your radios…ti hi…one besserwisser down…many many to go
wasnt point of elrs that it could be a long range system like crossfire or a racing system like tracer or ghost at a price point that was representative of the open source nature of its development. Elrs hardware at the same price point of the competition doesn't make any sense to me. I'll be sticking with HM, betafpv and others. I've been 6km with a quad and 20km with a wing without issue.
Hiya Thomas, have a look at the micro or nano version as an alternative to the full size module. Only $39.99! Or grab the combo set with a module and 3 receivers for $59.99. Thats a good deal imho 😀
What I see that this is perhaps better quality than BetaFPV and Happymodel so may justify a higher price point - also a lot of features. I agree I am not sure it was explined if this gives you better performance, however. I am not hearing anything in the video that says you get a rock solid link by having higher power.
@@tomsop Ive been using elrs since v0.3 and have tried a few of the HM and betafpv modules. I also use rx from about a dozen different vendors and to be honest ive never had a problem in terms of hardware quality or setup. I like that theres a hardware option to suit a budget and rx amost tailored to specific craft or flying type. the RM modules at around $40 are on point. but anything over this is just unnecessary. I use a 1w betafpv module as my daily and have it set to 100me 99% of the time. 1w is overkill, but nice to have in very limited circumstances. 2w wont double the range or penetration compared to 1w. Pushing technology forward is great. its how things progress. but this module doesnt do much for me.
Good review mate, greetings team #bckflp
If you're wondering if the ranger will fit in your Betafpv Lite 3/Pro, it won't... 😂
modding the adapter, it'll fit.. but why? 😅
Set radio down. Toss model using Autolaunch. Tx module goes into low power mode. Model goes into failsafe. Looks like a cool module that I'd buy if I didn't already have ELRS TX modules, but the features seem gimicky. Usually, when I set my radio down, I shut it off. Programmable RGB buttons? Meh. Cool, but not paying extra for it.
First of all as I stressed several times It will not go into low power mode when armed. Secondly even if it did your model would have to have got at least a few km before it even started to be a concern. I’m not sure how slow the walk back to the Tx is but I don’t think it’s an issue.
I don't understand why this isnt included in the internal ELRS version instead. It's just a waste of money if for what ever reason you want to go 1w and you can't cause you have to buy the module which is another 100+ so you end up spending about 350.00 dollars and that's not with the AG01 gimbals which is another 150.00 so you could end up spending up to 650 for this receiver and the worst part of it all is the devs probably don't get a cut.
The Boxer does have 1W in but it’s not quite the same as the large Ranger. That’s got a bigger PA that can do 2W but I do suspect we will see all the new radios have 1W
I think the community as a whole is fed up with companies sending out review units and EVT/DVT/PVT samples to 'youtubers' months before they have any manufacturing capacity on the line built up. There's no units to be had anywhere until mid-March.
RGB lights on my radio....pass
FrSky are watching this trying to work out what they can claim was copied from them
2 watt Crossfire full is better
Been out for years, proven, bullet proof, 60km range LOS
Cute, but without a trackrecord it is pointless. Once this gets to the point where 1000s of people are using it and proves to be reliable we'll talk.
It's a bogus cosmetic product. Go find about the unfinished ELRS RC1 document. Hahaha.
I'm intrigued... what is the "unfinished ELRS RC1 document"?
Do you play guitar? If not, get them nails trimmed!!
I've literally just bought the Namimno transmitter 🥲