Dear Rudy: Sealed Product investing is DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rudy:"It's just not true, there are not pallets of product stored away"
Reality: Cut to Rudy's basement
This. It's not the distributors that you need to worry about. It's the investors that are hoarding sealed product. They have much less of it than any distributor individually would, but it adds up to a substantial amount. If you look at previous collectibles industry crashes, like comics in the 90s, most of the surplus came from individuals, not from distributors or stores. They all decided to cash out at once, flooded the market, which cratered the price on everything, and that created a giant wave that wiped out everybody.
We see you Rudys ;p
Yep, I bet you there are lots of collectors like Rudy out there. But, not sure what would cause them release their holdings. I feel like if it would be that bad for them, it would have to be much worse for us.
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@@cloudyskiesnow yes distributors don't care, it could be pallets of paint brushes as far as they care....they just want to move the stuff. I mean it's nice to be Rudy and have millions sunk into magic and not really have it matter if a lot of it crashes to nothing or have the need to dump product. Eventually though some of these releases will crash because just too much is being printed and WOTC will only release MORE products each year, not less. It's going the way of sports-cards where what used to be rare and original became totally commonplace. Pretty soon packs will contain all foils and mythics, mark my words....it begins with Double Masters, tho collector's boxes have already started the trend.
The "back room" has become a mythical place where things come from for a lot of people who have never worked in retail.
Meanwhile the retail vets know it's the place to avoid customers and have a quiet smoke.
And retreat to and regroup when a customer is extra special.
@@jonathantillian6528 the true anti-karen tactic. pretend to go get manager, go have a smoke, come back and say he's busy on the phone with the regional manager
The guy who said that is probably looking at his 1000 virus cards he bought for 150 a piece still thinking that they are going to go up in value
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sad part is that that card is uncommon not even rare or epic
you can have my sealed boxes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands
"Your proposal is acceptable."
haha
Sure thing. Got an address?
Got anything pre-collector boxes era?
Moral of the story; Timmy’s Emporium will never compare to Rudy, the Warren Buffet of MTG
Good stuff as usual. If only I would have heard this advice back in '94-'95 during the Ice Age/Homelands mass booster box dump (I quit buying sealed) to market, I would have a sealed collection worth 6figures+. But that is how emotion clouds one's judgement.
The reason they are called Distributors is because the whole business model is to get product in and distribute ASAP so they have the room and money for the next thing. Churn and burn.
Yep. No warehouse wants to tie up space with an "investment" that takes years to mature. It is a nightmare to find space in a warehouse when you're running near capacity, and every warehouse is always almost out of space. Get it in, get it out.
Jen Fraser I’m uk vender looking to transition from vender to distributor due to the fact that my distributors lack supply I require there are currently 2 or 3 main distributors and if I don’t preorder or reserve any new product they run out on the day of availability. Investing sealed product is much a real thing.
I started investing heavily into Pioneer back in November just after it was announced as a format. So far in 8 months Im up about 30% overall in sealed Pioneer boxes. Sealed product investing is far from dead.
Yep! I knew how LGSes worked when I was 17 and wanted to buy a box of revised starter decks. Simply a matter of them not having enough of the product on-hand and having to buy what was on-display.
I'm blessed with my lgs. They're part of that 1% of stores that gets a pallet each set
My sideline "investing" in MTG is: keep 1 or 2 sealed booster boxes of each set + 1 box of each special release. If it all goes belly-up then I'll open the product I have and be happy. Rudy is the 1 in a Million case of MTG investing, don't try to compete on his level, but do listen to what he says.
Hi from Spain Rudy. Know what you are going through re:the bug, we are a couple of months ahead on the curve.
Things get back to normal real quick. :)
There is no sealed product that has lost value over time. Even if it takes 25 years for a product like Fallen Empires.
I remember buying Fallen Empires box from $40 at an LGS clearance table, and it's now $250. The Timmy that wrote the letter must be young and uninformed.
@@technole I paid $10 at a store in a mall in 1995. They were $50 two years later.
@@themisprintguy Yep! Fallen Empires was the Magic meme in the day. So much of the product everywhere to grow the game but it started to cleared out fast when Ice Age was coming.
I remember opening a box with my friends, and thinking after that this was crap..I still made a thallid deck with fungusaurs. And those were good times.
And then after the disaster known as Homelands hit, Alliances came around to give us the overpowered nonsense(at the time, I'm an old Timmy) of Force of Will and Balduvian Hordes. Times have changed.
I remember buying a Wyvern starter brick for $20 in the late 90's. Now it's selling for 200+ (but due to potential misprint possibility of a Magice front (and Wyvern back)).
Card floppy taco phyrexian tower Rudy basement.
Loved the video, thanks for all the insights
I wish I had a Rudy-approved booster pack for every time he said "nobody is watching this far"
This is why I collect only sealed products from Innistrad block or earlier.
About 16:00 on the video, my personal take: I buy a few boxes to keep sealed on the long term. I think that I want to draft them and have fun in the future, when they're too expensive and harder to get, but the truth to it is simple: I eventually give up and move on from magic, and don't actually want to draft those boxes on the future, at least I can sell them for more than I bought them in the future.
I have a friend that does the same thing with loose booster packs. He buys a few (10 or less) and throw them in a box. Once per year he hosts a chaos draft and keeps all the cards. He has sealed product for his own enjoyment.
This
4:00 my lgs which has like 3 different locations, hardly has any sealed product inventory aside from maybe a box or two, unless its sold out. They really only keep an inventory of 20 boxes of the newest (or several most recent) sets. The store inventory mainly consists of singles.
You the man Rudy !!! Fellow investor in Lakeland, FL.
Been playing off and on since Khans Rudy, the collector's boxes actually brought me back to the game recently. I buy the regular boxes for draft, but it is nice to know that I can buy a collector's box (no good for drafting at all) and I get a bunch of the sets best cards.
Behind that bookcase at the video store is the good version of Godfather 3 and videos of a man releasing a radioactive ape in his neighbor's house
both my wife and me make sure to watch your videos all the way. :D thanks for what you do
I was on my way to do something usefull today, but hey Rudy uploaded a video minute ago
This is a joke right? Sealed product investing is the way of the future. If anyone thinks Throne or Ikoria will be $80-$100 in 5-10 years they’re insane.
M8 I give it 2
@@brokengames9020 Ah, yes, just like how old godzilla figures are worthless. Dumbass, I bet you do not even know what is in the product. People have been buying Godzilla merch for decades and holy hell is there money in it.
@@tygonmaster Shhhhhhh. I've been buying position in lots of Monsterart figures and don't want everyone to start doing the same!
Sealed is also the only way to almost ensure gem mints for desirable cards, even if it's a lottery chance. Look at Mirage and Stronghold prices. With the CE era, it'll likely be those boxes that'll appreciate faster since there is no reprint.
@@brokengames9020 Hey, isn't mtg a scam in plain sight? You forgot to paste that.
8:08: don't worry Rudy; you don't look a day over 45
JUICE at the END of the video! Floppy Taco phyrexian tower me up! Nice Video!
Happy 4th you and yours Rudy !
Fun old story; A game shop in my home town bought 4 cases of original Zendikar when it launched. Within two weeks; they were already reordering for two more cases. They pretty much had only open boxes for the Alara and Lorrwyn set. The only unopened boxes they had were for the core set. It was just straight turn and burn on sets.
Rudy explains again the concept of just in time inventory
Timmy: "YEAH BUT HERE'S WHAT I THINK"
Every single manager and expert on supply chain and inventory management "that's nice dear"
I got a 2021 core teferi deck with all commons and uncommons miscut. Any advice on what to do with it?
People probably think that stores have pallets of product because of the amount of product they see in your videos and they forget that your an invester not just an lgs. Timmy's unite!
Rudy this is so true. My lcs only keeps just enough product to sale and when they run out. Depending how long it took they might not even order more because they think it's just not worth it. I just want it to succeed so I have a play to play tcg with others and league play. Looks like I am going to have to register my basement to overcome if the lcs fails.
Yoooo those sealed pokemon booster boxes behind ya, Rudy 👌
"I should really do that, that sounds really cool" Stops the entire tangent hahaha
That was fantastic!
Lol yep, my husband and I were laughing at that as well.
Excellent analysis grounded in reality, which sadly is a rare thing now a days.
Stay safe, Rudy.
Amen Rudy!
Stay safe Rudy!
thank you
“I could say hard floppy taco phyrexian tower in Rudy’s bassement” NOBODY WILL NOTICE!!
That Rule of Rose on the shelf tho...
4:15 exactly RUDY! all my local shops have a couple boxes of all the modern sets and that’s it.
....and this is why we need to support our local game stores!!. Im lucky to have 2 local game stores and i love them both.
What he really wanted to say is show me a shortcut on how to gain wealth...
I’ve been studying and taking notes from your channel; I’ve started doing the same thing but in a different hobby. It’s possible for something to create profit and also be fun. Btw you look healthy; that’s a good sign. I don’t listen to anyone that can’t take care of themselves.
Off to find Francis Drake's secret stash of Alpha Lotuses.
So WOTC has secret warehouses FULL of Alpha Boxes! Thanks for letting me know
Watched till the end. Worth it!
Even if that may be true. Long term investment sealed product will endure... some not by a lot but they will raise in time key word time...
Rudy, if you make that hidden room with the adult bookshelf, I *demand* an (online) tour! I understand it won't exactly be a secret, but dammit I wanna see it!
Yo, nice Rule of Rose in the bg tho
hello, i want to have fun and crack a booster box, which do i have the best chance of return Ultimate Masters , Eternal Masters , or Ikoria Collectors? Those are the ones I'm thinking about. What you think?
My local store was selling rivals of ixala for 99!
I actually loved amonkhet and hour and want another box of each but now they are selling for more than i want to pay haha.
On today's episode of "you know what grinds my gears?" Lol, but seriously though couldn't agree more on this whole conversation
Hey dude hope you staying safe during this whole corona virus epidemic, especially how horrible Florida is looking.
i got taunted by those swwet Pokemon boxes in the backround in the first 10 seconds of the video. Well played. That´s a big boy flex.
There are some sealed collectible cards and toys that have never appreciated in value. Early 90's sports cards are a great example. Newer sets though are fire.
Hard floppy taco Phyrexian tower in Rudys Basement
Rudy is right.. my LGS has been around since the late 90’s, it’s a very successful store and they never have more than 1 or 2 booster boxes of each standard set on hand. When a set rotates they will rarely have not sold through whatever they had brought in. I’m pretty sure they don’t hoard cases of every set in some secret underground bunker.
Only warehouse with old boxes I've seen is yours in your videos
its all because people are mad or jealous they missed out on the opportunity to make money . . .
Missed? Every time Wizards releases a new set, it's a new opportunity.
This is what stupid people who get lucky tell themselves to make them feel like they're better than everyone else.
Why are people buying products they can’t use?
For mad gains
Its one thing looking at a website thinking you have all this value, its another thing selling and shipping successfully with no issues.
Hard floppy taco phyrexian tower in Rudy's basement
I was talking to my distributors and they said the next few sets from jumpstart and up will be super underprinted (at least for the release of sets) and won't get back to normal till late next year. All card games are having this problem because they all use the same printing presses.
I can confirm Rudy's answer on card, collectables etc....shops mostly order a case or two of the product and when it is sold out we I mean they order another case or two depending on how fast the first ones sold ....but if they have a large amount of customers then u get the 10 cases or more or have away to sell them without person to person sales....you got your live breaks twitch breaks they have a way to sell product than the average 1 to 2 cases an order......if u are looking are older stuff u are most likely will find them at a card shop cause usually one or two booster boxes of the last order don't sell and sit on the shelf ....most shops profit is having tcg events like magic tournaments Pokemon tournaments 2-4 times a week and that's what is killing the shops is not being able to hold tournaments.....what Rudy's says about distributors is true unless u are rich they cannot sit on product it's like any other store if u are not selling or moving product you can't pay anyone u can't pay the bills
Hard floppy taco in a phyrexian basement.
what?
Dank Audio Stash I don't have that kind of an attention span. 16 mins?!?
Awe lonely rudy. Have a virtual hug
Good video Rudy. Before I got roped back into magic I had a lot of disdane towards Magic players and thier over all mentality. Of course there was the stereotype of a few FNMers that didn't bathe always an aroma everytime MTG was played. Then some where real elitest a-holes, expect everything free and that should be able turn a profit on said expected free things. I played other games then and always had to fight for room at any lgs. Then later there was a couple friends that ran a lgs - I got to see more of what i talked about earlier there was the commander players.. didnt spend a dime in store. Took up space... hardly bought sodas to support the store like once every 2 months or so they might buy a $5 to $50 single. How can a store survive that especially since the power creep is real no one wants to play standard it's all Modern or Commander locally. Both formats only need a single or 2 every set.
So the lgs roped me into MTG. I wasn't going willingly but now I'm in it.. there is still some of the stereo types. At least one smelly guy (LGS put a stop to it posted signs through the store essentially saying the stink game is no bueno and they will get kicked out), still a ton of elitist (some work there still but on the customer service side made improvements), and the players themselves still bitch about the cost of events and there is a lack of more then cost prize support. I have my issues as I don't have the 15 to 25 years of experiance these other players do. The community should be more open and welcoming.. sadly most are elitist. As a new-ish (played back in 7th ed) player, the mentality was sink or swim. Not a lot of help to "get good". Net deck or bust.. I appreciate more home brews. I hate blue control type decks and refuse to use them even though they usually tier 1. That's all the meta is.. it's not fun to play against nor play with. So new player plays in tournament they wont come back. It's sad. That's what stores need new players buying standard
Hard floppy taco, Phyrexian tower in Rudy's basement!
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Rudy say in a past video that distributors DO in fact "invest" in some sealed product by way of saving some pallets aside (whether intentional or because stores didn't buy as much so they have them left over) then increase the price later when product is older?
Hard floppy taco phyrexian tower Rudy’s basement
Hard floppy taco at 16 minutes
lol
Those stores will be okay. They all have back rooms with millions in sealed product.
Rudy feels comfortable because he doesn't really hold on to the product/'s that aren't on the Reserved list etc (period).....and the other product/'s you think he hoards....we'll that's the stuff you folks get to see opened with regards to patrons or sells (moving the LOAD, say it with me, LOAD).....I would say he's mighty cozy in his position, keep up the great work Rudy!!!
Edit: He's right about the shops, I know a dude who runs one and lives on Ramen in that back room.....and he thought his 18k initial would be enough (rigggghhhhhtttt)....he's broke according to the rumor mill....and that was before Corona and Lime showed up, live the dream.
#1 you hurt my wallet every time I listen to you speak
#2 I can't stop listening to you speak business, so yes still here at 16 minutes
#3 keep doing you Rudy, the haters can eat floppy 🌮
Rudy, did you buy any more cruise stocks this year?
you know he's answered this multiple times.
Rudy walking around distributor warehouses contemplating buying the buildings
Here in Moscow the Magic scene has already started up again with no problem...
If they say "It is not true"...
Rudy exactly knows that we all watch till the end.
Hard Floppy Taco Phyrexian Tower in Rudy's Basement.
Sealed Product is good on various levels. I turned a stack of sealed product into two pieces of power last week (Product including Innistrad, Conflux, Fifth Dawn, Morningtide, Kaladesh, Mystery, Ikoria Collectors, etc...). Could I have held onto the sealed and made money eventually? Maybe. My choice the last two years has been to play standard, sell out early enough to still get value out of rotating cards, turn those into sealed product or first year or reserve list cards, then turn those cards into power 9. I have picked up 4 pieces in the last two years by doing that.
Oh no!
Hey Rudy! Have you heard of the Chrono Clash System?! They have dropped Naruto/Boruto, Godzilla and Evangalion! Would you do a video on them if you can get some boxes??? Please!
so true
@3:08 to @3:35
How did I miss this before...
'Et tu, Rudy?'
That taco though.
Shoot! Just looked at the Egyptian style sets, they were at like 65 a box for months; now I can’t find them for under 100! Well, there you go! Core 19 I am seeing for 82ish! Well it goes to show that magic is a fluctuating economy!
I have known and kept up with magic on and off since 1994. Sadly I've only bought 3 packs of magic in my life time. Regardless, I've watched Rudy's videos for a few years now and he has made this statement a few times per year. I honestly think it's the collectors that tell the newbies to give up so there is less competition for them. Stay the course, and believe in Rudy. History is in his favor.
Believe in Rudy!
Those Pokemon boxes.... Mmmm
Hey Rudy I've seen two slots available in the patreon would be alright if I join just to support the channel? (I'm from overseas so I can't buy mtg boxes :c )
I want to be in the Rudy warehouse and work in the adult inappopriate movie bait section...where do i send my CV?
"Hard floppy taco, Phyrexian Tower and Rudy's basement."
OK you earned your like today
Rudys right ... stores that are closing are minor ones that just make enough to get it through. My LGS literally does as he says: they have mostly boxes of a new set. They run tournaments but they didnt order mystery boxes at all (i expect due to many not sold producted they had from earlier). So i agree with rudy.
the green greed monster needs a mask Rudy
People are trying to gaslight the competition for sealed products and hold buy in cost down.
Woah did you just say "hard floppy taco phyrexian tower in rudys basement" ?
All I know is the hidden bunkers full of sealed old magic that Rudy personally owns makes the long term prospects of magic investing very unpredictable.
My local lgs game store 🤣 changed their name apparently. I'm assuming it has to do with loans and finance and stuff
you just said local local game store game store
My local local game store game store xD
That is how you know it is a legit LGS. Top tier shit here.
Must be super local
😂😂😂
I noticed!! :D
Silk Road! Backpage! Craigslist! Have you been spying on me Rudy?!?!