Elite Strength Is All About Momentum
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2024
- Momentum, although widely disparaged by people espousing optimal evidence based training, is fundamental to exerting strength (and building it) at the highest levels. This video discuss the idea of using momentum in various lifts and how you can use it to make your own bodybuilding and strength training journey way better.
alphadestiny, eric bucenhagan, natural hypertrophy, cheat rows, bodybuilng cheat reps, should training be strict.
Golden ratio grizzly in the thumbnail is so funny
Shit killed me when I saw it
Finally, a new long form video.
Hopefully I’ll be able to put them out more consistently, thanks for watching bro
very interesting. I always wondered why deadlifters and strongman in general move their bodyframe with massive momentum before a lift. I know it helps and i use it for deadlifts too but this explains it pretty good.
That’s really cool you noticed it, it took me a very long time to realize it was even a thing despite using it. Thanks for watching
Your mad underrated, great video, very informative and easy to watch, please do more long form videos!!
Will do homie, thanks for the support!
Alpha destiny also mentions that kipping helps even out the resistance curves of exercises so it is better resistance according to portion of the lift.
Also btw, I finally did the demon slayer breathing bracing while deadlifting and squats. Damn, I felt more core stability AND I wasn't breathless during the set. Your tips are unconventional are very effective for me (that grip tip is amazing too).
Thank you for your esoteric tips. Please keep them coming.
That’s sick to hear! I hope to remake that bracing video with some more detail in the near future, hopefully you can get even more out of it.
I didn’t know Alex said that, but it’s really interesting to hear. He seemed to be a super strict reps kind of guy nowadays.
I really appreciate your continued support!
underrated channel🗣️
Thanks bro
Greatest content on the fitness net rn ngl. The thought, the idea, the science and practise behind it is incredible! Keep it up man
Really appreciate it bro, thanks for the support!
Just wanted to let you know that you appeared on my home page. the algorithm is doing its job 😝
That’s sick to hear, thanks so much for watching!
An 11 yo trainee half your size can break your leg in half in one shot if he twists at the perfect time and hits the perfect point. Momentum.
I think on the bodybuilding side where hypertrophy is king and strength is secondary, the impact of whole body drive is not as vital because we're trying to train the target muscles, not make them stronger per se. You could argue that whole body drive should be used because it lets you load the muscles more especially on the eccentric, but the strict reps doctrine is quite ingrained.
Is definitely more popular to talk about ultra strict reps, but lots of elite lifters (especially less recent ones) utilized tons of kipping in their bodybuilding completely intuitively. That, plus my own recent progress from kipping makes me very in favor of using momentum for hypertrophy.
Also, for natties you realistically have to get strong as to get big. If the best kipping does is habituate you to being able to train much harder and resist the damage from doing so, it’s still extremely valuable as a training tool
I don't agree 100% with all of your conclusions or definitions of different types of kipping, but I do agree with a lot of it and definitely like the video. It's a very interesting and under explored idea. I think one aspect that you didn't discuss explicitly but matters a lot is the aspect of using tendons and muscles as springs instead of purely as motors so to speak. Classically in training, muscles are just like electric motors, moving the joints with their own power. Conversely with a lot of these momentum techniques, although not all of them, you're passively storing extra tension in the muscle chain you're training with that kip motion and using the natural elasticity of those structures to complete the lift. I think that's most obvious in the strict bicep curl example although it exists in nearly all of them. That little leg drive the athlete is using is putting the bicep complex into a tiny eccentric load at the end of it's ROM and allowing it to spring back out of that low leverage dead spot with the assistance of that passive stretch added to the active contraction. This is similar to a negative/split step in sports in the Achilles tendon and calf. The biggest difference to me with this understanding of cheating vs kipping is that the momentum is channeled more through other structures as opposed to increasing the overall tension the muscle experiences.
Thanks for watching, and I appreciate polite disagreement! That spring tensioning idea is actually the basis of why I think kipping follows those two broad patterns of expansion and flexion, and I’ll explore it in a separate video. Essentially I think you can primarily load the front or back of the sternum into those extra stretchy positions, and that each correlates to a preferred limb rotation.
That said, that doesn’t encompass all of what kipping is. Most of the kipping shown in the video doesn’t actually utilize overstretching for an exaggerated rebound, it directly drives momentum through the limbs in the direction required to move a weight without having to induce a stretch.
As to the difference between cheating and kipping, I think we’re in agreement. My description is a practical one. Uses of momentum that drive tension away from muscles seem to universally involve a change in momentum direction before a lift is complete, whereas those that enhance tension universally seem to use momentum in one direction continuously. I think those descriptions help people to more easily recognize when momentum is detracting from a lift, though they don’t describe why it does.
@@darwinianfitness7311 I'm still not 100% sure I understand the two types you defined from your description. Is it sort of like on the extremes one is in the direction of touching your toes and one is in the direction of bending backwards into a bridge?
@samk2407 sorry, I will hopefully have a deeper full breakdown of those two kinds of mechanics within a week if all goes well
Interesting Video Mate. But what you mention here is how we work our way through the sticking points of any lift but never realize there is this reason behind it. Also, I am a big fan of Cheating Rows and push press.
Thanks for watching! Yes that’s exactly part of the argument I’m making, I definitely think people use kipping all the time to bypass sticking points short term, as well as build the strength to push through them without momentum long term
Very interesting!
Thanks for watching!
I noticed this same thing while rowing.
To get the most power I gotta just throw my torso using my calves and quads and then use the core to transfer and direct the energy. So the movement feels different and you no longer are holding up your upper back and chest - they are flying back not down. Plus pull the handle hard as you can.
If you row like a people do squat 1RM you will lose 30% efficiency vs doing it like an oly lift snatch
That’s really interesting, essentially by my definitions you improved a lift by “cheating” the row instead of “kipping” the row, which is much more effecient for the sport of rowing (but might be inefficient for bodybuilding rows).
Thanks for sharing!
wow. learned something pretty cool. thank you. liked and subscribed
Thanks for watching!
I didn't know any of this stuff. Nice video
Thank you!
Smartest fucker alive keep it up my G
Thanks bro!
yea nice to meet you! so far confirmed, i guess you kniów a thing or two! decent content and well put, get yourselfe a mic-holder, greetings from the north ^^
Thanks for watching bro. I hope to upgrade my whole set up soon, but for now I think holding my mic like a peasant has a certain homeless charm to it
@@darwinianfitness7311 haha fair enough (; also great Performance in static tension holding the mic steady
@stefanschacht3322 I’m kipping off screen to support it ;)
nice video
Thanks for watching homie
Awesome video, mate. Love the originality
Thank you!
Is that Mario sports mix background music?
Good vid. Original take.
Thanks homie
Is this the one of the reasons why Ronnie Coleman got so big and strong?
I’m suspicious that superior mechanics (like intuitively better kipping to enhance training) often makes a huge difference that’s conventionally thought of as “genetic” between elite competitors. I’m sure a large amount of Ronnie Coleman’s disproportionate success has to do with subtle but important training differences like this
@@darwinianfitness7311 Right. It could mean overall more muscle stimulation in the entire muscle chain, therefore more systemic stimulation as compared to deliberately trying to isolate a muscle and therefore not use all the other muscles in that chain. And then like you pointed out in the video, able to use more weight which then activates even more muscles in that chain. It probably stimulates overall nervous system better.
This went over my head. All I see is bad form. Downvoted & unsubscribed.
lol this got me for a second
this makes sense cus it makes it easier, but to get bigger momentum cheats your reps and takes tension off your target, if you wanna grow you gonna have control if you wanna move heavy shit use your full body of course
I’m not super sure it works out that way, since the biggest strongest people seem to throw in tons of momentum (through kipping) into most of their training reps. Lately I’ve been experimenting with kipping virtually everything and it looks very promising as a way of progressing strict strength