Why Were 70's Powerlifters So F***ing Jacked?
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Thank You BOOSTCAMP
1:58 Were They Better??
4:03 Bill Kazmaier
8:46 Kaz's Program
13:49 Doug Young
15:28 Doug's Programs
20:09 Roger Esteps' Programs
22:54 The Culture
26:04 Conclusions and "70's Powerlifter"
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In defense of Kazmaier... Even today you can look at the top strongest man competitors... they are ALL pretty douchie ego maniacs.
@@psyoperator jear but I think some are dicks only for the Show
Did you just compare a normal footed squat with a very wide footed squat? That's not the same thing!
" When you stop waxing your chest...?" lol
what are your thoughts on using kettlebells for your workout or part of your workout.
I power lifted in late 70's and most lifters were not jacked like Roger Estep. The funniest thing I saw was a skinny lifter in 198 class that only benched 285 but dead lifted 710 to win on his last pull. There were several lifters in his class that were benching about 400 each but they could only dead lift about 500 pounds. Like old time lifters say the meet ain't over until bar hits ground!!!
Chris Murray
I benched 335 after 5 weeks and deadlifted 445 or 435 on my first pull
They say it's either benchpress or deadlift.
@@MegaErnieMAN i benched 335 after 5 days and deadlifted 445 or 544 on my first pull!!!!
@@tcmx712 im actually telling the truth I've always been unbelievably strong naturally
I met Bill Kazmaier in summer of 2019 while training clients at the YMCA in Dallas... they say don't meet your heroes. In this case, he was one of the most humble and nicest celebrities I've ever met! He started holding a conversion with me asking about work and my relationship with GOD. I literally had to say "I can't hold you up any longer because you got a line waiting for autographs"... just a great man!
Brought back a memory to me. Thanks for reminding me. Long time ago, I’m 70 now. Back when I was in the Navy, about to retire, so I guess maybe 25, or so years ago out shopping at the around Christmas. Wife had gotten a babysitter and was dragging me around to the shops. Finally, I manned up and sat on one of the benches in the common area. I hear a couple going back and forth and then this guy sits down beside me. It was Bill. We just shook our heads and laughed. Of course I knew who he was, but we didn’t go there and had a nice conversation until one of us was “summoned” by the girls.
I met Bill a couple of times and he is a true gentleman. He asked what kind of work I do, and when I said charity work for hospitalized children he had a huge smile. Good man.
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John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: ‘I solemnly declare it:
before Abraham came to be, I AM.”
[This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated
with Moses, Exodus 3:14
“God replied, ‘I am who am.’ Then he added, ‘This is what you
shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.’”]
John 10: 30 ”The Father and I are one.”
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do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe because of the works I do.’”
Matt. 11: 27 “Everything has been given over to me by my Father. No one knows the
Son but the Father, and no one knows the Father but the Son - and anyone to whom the Son wishes to reveal him.” 💯✝💞
@@KenanTurkiye Yes, this is why we can call it the inspired Word of God. It has been fully preserved as God intended for humanity. When you accept Jesus as your savior, you receive the Holy Spirit and this begins to guide you further into truth and righteousness. (The Father, Son, Holy Spirit) The Law is written in all our hearts to some degree but until you accept Jesus as your savior this will not make sense for you.
I pray you will not let other false teachings and teachers lead you astray. The Prophet Mohammed was deceived by a demon pretending to be an angel. Angel's always come in peace to God's chosen according to the Bible. They do not choke, slap or terrorize them with revelation's as Mohammed himself claimed.
All the original Quran's were also stacked in a pile and burned up in favor of one source copy. This alone should give you major red flags that fraudulent satanic forces were/are at work.
As I'm from that era, the wraps we had in the 70s were comical compared to modern-day wraps. They were glorified Ace bandages, but did help a lot when wrapped super tight. Today's wraps help a shit load.
IIRC, some lifters were sewing wraps or ace bandages together to make multiply wraps. I think Hatfield got disqualified from a meet for getting caught with a triple ply knee wrap (I could be wrong on details here).
@@benpeterson7530 My friends and I used to squat in tight jeans with old crappy wraps, could add a good 30-40 lbs on your max on top of the wraps. Though your sack wasn't always happy afterwards. Never really got into squat suits and such, tended to flow more towards the raw side. The above mentioned was for kicks on some days, but I can't imagine what a triple ply canvas squat suit would do to my nether regions.
That's funny, I just posted the exact same thing
I powerlifted from mid-70s up until retiring just a few years ago. I attained Master in the 123 class in 1978. Programs were very simple back then. Many routines were published in the old MD magazines. I remember articles on Larry Pacifico, Doug Young, Vince Anello, Dennis Wright, Precious McKenzie, and more. Most routines were 5x5 to 5x3. I used to train squat and bench 3 days a week and deadlift twice a week. I mostly did 4x5 after 2 quick warmup sets. I used to train with Mike Sauers who held the 114 WR bench record at that time. His bench routine was 4x6 working down to 4x3. Most lifters were training all lifts 2-3 days a week. Guess we didn't know better.
I grew up lifting this way in the 90s. But the lifting that I knew was derived from the University of Iowa WrestlingProgram. 5 sets of 5. Always heavy. As well as 5 sets of 10 on the dumbbells. Nothing fancy at all.
@@JeffAboularage 5x5 was based off of Bill Starr's program. It was published in his book, "The Strongest Shall Survive...Strength Training for Football". It's the only strength training book that I kept from that time. Nothing complicated. Squat, bench, and power clean was the foundation.
@@vfs148 I just got back in the weight room for the first time in 15 years. I will definitely look up this book. Yes. This work out was introduced to me in middle school, and I used it all the way through college.
You might remember my brother Randy Moore he was one of the top 10 deadlifters at 123 pulling 450 he was with the purdue club with gary sanger
@@ericmoore5408 Unfortunately, I don't recall. I've met so many lifters over the years, it's hard to remember. One thing I do remember from that time was that there was a very strong bond and friendship among competitors.
That picture of Estep deadlifting at 20:12 is burned into my brain. Damn this era kicked so much ass. High frequency, high volume, just lots of work on the basics. And big congrats on 100k by the way!
I know this is heresy for you but you'll notice, no cat's back either. Take a leaf from his book.
@@gokwan7549height and leverages changes things,if he is bracing and not hitting off more then he can chew I think it should be fine
One of my older cousins was an Olympic Weightlifter here in my country..and he used to take big amounts of dianabol in the early 70's...he was massive...tecnically speaking..he died suddenly at 45 years of age...his heart was very big...much more than normal..his training routines were wild...one of the trainers was bulgarian...nice video...kind regards..👍🇸🇻
.....ok....cool story.....bro......
@@tinkywinky4449Yeahhhh, the Bulgarians blew the US lifters away like dust back then. Now the Chinese lifters are doing the same. Evolution is crazy
Remember that Doug Young’s older brother was Bob Young, a 16-year NFL lineman who competed in the early WSM competitions. Strength is in the blood.
Yeah and roids🤔
Their younger brother Perry was the best athlete in the family.. Caught 19 tds his senior year in highschool and was drafted by mlb as a pitcher.
@@rataylor59 Contributed to Bob dying of heart attack in his 50s and Doug of the same at 61.
If you are physically active basically everyday as a kid then you start lifting because your family lifts. Genetics only come into play when you get to competitions of the best in the world.
@@rataylor59yeah, anyone stronger than you is on juice😂😂😂queef
I respect the hell out of you for covering Bill Kazmaier. He put up raw numbers so impressive , that his records nearly stood 40 years! I think he set the 2425lbs RAW total in 1981 or so, and it took until 2020 for it to be beaten. And the guys who have beat Kazmaier's record for RAW total didn't weight 320 lbs like Kaz did, they weigh close to 400 lbs. That means that Kaz was way stronger.
Don Reinhout, not Kaz, set the all time raw record that stood for 38 years, which was a record itself.
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Both Big Jim's bench records were completely ignored even though very strict 2 second pause as they came before Powerlifting Federation was formed allowing Kaz to have them.
Bill Kazmaier trained like a top level bodybuilder and a top level powerlifter back in his prime. Which definitely greatly helped him in strongman since he has the stamina from bodybuilding training and the strength from powerlifting training. Combine those with his farmer strength and football style conditioning makes for an absolute beast of a man.
May Roger Estep rest in peace! He was one of the nicest people that I have ever had the good fortune to train with when we were both at Ohio University! He was the best and I miss him.
Oh did he attend Ohio University in Athens?
Really pretty campus and area.
Tim Hortons is my favorite coffee.
I remember reading Esteps answers to training questions in the old Powerlifting USA magazines and being so impressed by his physique.
I seem to remember him advocating singles but I assume that would be for peaking as opposed to doubles triples etc.
I think he was influenced by Louie before Louie became so well known or vice versa as Louie would mention him pretty regularly.
I think Louie said Roger got his squat way up going out to California visiting Frenns original Westside and implementing box squats.
@@mastersironmantarmstrong7148 YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. When in California Joe Weider pursued him for bodybuilding. I believe that Roger passed at around 57 years of age due to brain cancer? I often wonder if agent orange had anything to do with it. Roger was a medic in Vietnam war. He had a career in radiology in California. One great person always ready to help other people. Great sense of humor.
Please what were some of his methods, preferred lifts, eating habits, meet preparation????
@@thomasbrown7328 He was really into box squats. He was into powerlifting and I myself bodybuilding. I did not room with him as he lived off campus but he would spot and encourage me all the time. We never discussed food. He would tell stories from his time in Vietnam. He always had a smile on his face and a word of encouragement. He had good genetics and was on the short side. His idols were Larry Pacifico and Jerry Jones as he talked about them a lot. This was 50 years ago. I believe that he did compete in powerlifting before Nam as I have seen pictures of him with very long hair. (late 60s) He sported a fu man chu beard for a while IN college. He enjoyed soft ball and helped out with his high school football team which I believe was in Welston , OH. He was featured on the cover and in a 4 page article in MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT magazine (oct 1980) I still have a copy. Thats the best I can tell you. It was a long time ago.
@@raybutts9133 Fantastic thanks so much that really helps to fill in the overall picture for such an awesome and inspiring looking dude!
A lot of people don’t realize the food we consume now a days has 40% less nutrients than back then.
This is a big part of it as well.
@@ryanrogers8211 it’s not talked about enough
@@bc5208 Very true, I saw a video of a California corporate guy who because if the rat race and this moved to the big island of Hawaii where he farms with very fertile soil.
Yeah but the steroids I've got access to now are 40% more potent than what they had 😁
Been a fan since like 40k subs, congrats!! Watched every video multiple times, taking notes, implementing things with my own clients. Definitely top tier info! Thanks for the amazing content!
The 70s Big blog is why I started training for strength. Justin is an American Hero and man among boys.
Congratulations on 100k, you deserve it!
I absolutely love these long form videos. It's your best content in my opinion, you're an excellent narrator/Commentator and the longer content really let's you showcase it
Alex needs to update his profile on boost camp. It says his he has 75k on CZcams.
I've been following since his videos got a couple thousand views.
Kaz wrote the cerebral assassin playbook guys like Michael Jordan would use decades later. Swap Kaz with Jordan and you get the same games. Kaz was on a different level.
Congrats on 100k. The Kaz discussion is one of my favorite. I once helped edit a PDF by the Lilliebridges and their volume reminded of a Kaz program.
The Lilliebridge Method gave me my best PRs. Love that program.
The body of the POWERLIFTER in the 60's and 70's are what Stuart McRoberts books were describing. Bench, Squat, Deadlift, Olympic lifts, were the foundation of both POWER and MUSCLE. It was based on individual goals and of course sports
They snatched and clean and jerked too?
@@antiwufei553 don't TRAIN for muscle. Where did you get this information if I may humbly ask. I wil agree on one thing. I've had the HUMBLE privilege to meet individuals who have never lift weights for upper body growth. All but three exercises. Pull Ups and it's variations, Dips, and Push Ups and it's many cousins. There upper body was similar to a IFFBB 200 Plus weight. Yet something was lacking physically?? Have a wonderful weekend 🏋️♂️💪🙏♥️
@@antiwufei553 And yet that's what you had back then. A mix as opposed to today's hyper specialized awfulness.
Back then they were built big AND strong. Not one or the other like 90% of whats seen today sadly, but what actually was the real deal then, and sparingly today at best.
Plus at the end of the day, the cold hard fact is not everybody's body responds the same to any of this. Your types hinging too hard on the modern science tend to have an awful epiphany should you find those generalized "rules" don't grant the results "they're supposed to."
@@antiwufei553 I'LL agree on one thing.......different bodies respond differently.
I met Bill Kazmaier in Auburn Alabama. I was competing in an Olympic weightlifting meet at auburn university in he early 80s’.
He was sitting behind a desk in the college weight room. As he stood up he just got bigger and bigger. Thought I was strong weighing around 220lb at 5’9. I was wrong.
I know a former powerlifter named Mike Hall, easily one of the most massive men I have met. I have seen him benching 300+ lbs for reps and having a conversation like he was waiting on a bus
This program caught my eye in your book; I will definitely be running it with boostcamp.
Congrats on the 100K subs! Well earned milestone.
Loving boost camp and loving your content. Thanks for everything
Doug Young was my first husband. He’s the one who got me into the IRON GAME. Everything I teach my clients everyday is based on what he taught me
It's cool that you are seeking out videos related to Doug and commenting. Even though those of us who are iron connoisseurs never knew him like you did, he lives on through all of us. We remember the legend, you remember the man.
When were you married to him. I grew up with Peyton. Just curious. When he was working for the train depot in Brownwood he gave me pointers because i was a skinny kid trying to get bigger. I like him and still call Peyton a friend
Bull😂😂😂
What seriously??
Well based on your completely unnatural physique, one thing is for sure. You learned how to use steroids.
Congrats on 100k Alex. Love all the content and the summary break downs at the end. Keep it up!
Massive congrats on the 100k man, good to see you having the fruits of your labour. I discovered your channel about 2 years ago through Geoffery and your overall strength training and programming tips have been second to none, yours and alpha destiny's info are what I credit 90% of my strength gains to.
Love the content, congrats on the milestone!!! Was looking through your playlist this video got me excited because I am an old washed up lifter in my 50s. Didn’t know if you ever wanted to tackle the subject of older powerlifters and what your thoughts on programming for them would look like.
Don Reinhoudt is from my hometown of Brocton, NY. Hes such a great guy - He bicep curled students in our class at a school assembly yearsssss ago
My dad played football in the 60s. Hill reps, I believe, made him systemically strong too. In addition, in summers he picked potatoes. Today machines and adults do that work. There's a big difference in the possibilities for building muscle at 20 on a frame that at 12 years old picked potatoes 3 months a year and one that played Fortnight.
Nice to hear about Hills as training...i preach running hills it made me a much better football player plus hard work like your dad..you are right if you are not subjected to grit in hard work conditioning and leg pumps like hills can give you than you dont get a chance to build out a frame that handles the stress needed for power gains.
Picking poratoes would make absolutely no difference to strength,zero.
@scarred10 physical labor especially with farming helps develop strong ligaments and tendons to where you can pack in more muscle on a frame
@@NicholasAckerman-xv3dm Yeah, so does lifting weights.
@@scarred10😂😂😂people love to romanticize this crap
i trained as a powerlifter back in the 1970s. i went to the 1976 jr. nationals and saw roger estep lift. he was a beast, but he lost the 181 class to dan haisenleder who lifted where i did and helped me learn the powerlifts. some other notable lifters that lifted in the same gyms i did were don cundy, the first person in the world to deadlift 800, bob ingram, the first 148 pounder to bench 350, wayne bouvier, who was a superheavyweight who benched 600. i saw him do it in eastern michigan university's weightroom. i also knew rick steiner from the wwe, who would break lifting straps shrugging 1,000 pounds for reps at the old ann arbor y. my claim to fame was coming in last place in the 198 class in the 1977 state of michigan powerlifting contest. at 6' 192# i benched 340, squatted 410, deadlifted 500. not very impressive, but i was clean and my only assist was a flimsy leather lifting belt. i got out of the sport, i took it as far as i wanted.
Congratulations on 100k!
We’ll deserved! Just actually started bullmastiff. Can’t wait to try 70s powerlifter next!
I'm 11 weeks in on bullmastiff, it doesn't disappoint
@@johnengland7505 nice!💪
Goodluck on 70s powerlifter. im on base phase wave 2 week 3, lovin it. But the high rep and big sets sometimes make me ask why i ran the program, especially on leg day 😂
@@Jspec03 my only advice is to grow a 70s mustache that should help😂
great video, love the simplicity of the old school lifters, no frills, no fancy equipment, no bullshit
in the "journey of ed coan" video mark n chris bell made a few years ago, ed says that specialization wasnt as big as it is now, nor was there as much readily available info as there is now, so they used tons of bodybuilding work after their mains.
the most impressive person from this era [more 80s i think] in my opinion was doug furnas. he was a fucking total legend and an incredible athlete across several sports, extremely strong [that 1985 hawaii meet shows his strength, limitless and vital] and apparently a class gentleman. TLDR: restoratives.
we love you alex!
I've noticed when I would read programs that a lot of powerlifters from the 70's and 80's followed, it looks a lot like what people consider a "powerbuilding" program.
Doug Furnas had such perfect squat form and those legs were massive
Wish there was more info available on dougs workout routine
I worked out with Roger & George Frenn in the late 70's and early eighties. Their routine was born out of Peanuts West and the westside Barbell Club. The program was singles and overloads and consisted of the following: Squats (coemption + Hi Box + Lo Box), Deadlifts, Bench and Power Cleans. Monday was Competition Squat and Dead Lift. Tuesday was Bench, it was a shorter work out so on that day we did some pec, shoulder and Bi & Tri isolation, but that wasn't really considered part of the workout. Then Friday was cleans, hi box and finish with lo box. All squats, deadlifts and bench's were assisted overload singles. Reps were a byproduct of increasing singles, but not any kind of focus.
I just stumbled across this video. Outstanding! I saw Doug Young at a powerlifting meet at the old forum 303 mall in Arlington TX around '79 or '80. He was trying to break the 275lb class WR in the bench. He missed 606, but his first attempt at 578lbs looked like it was an empty bar.
Terry Todd said that Doug's brother Bob had the greatest gift of natural strength TT had ever seen. I remember BY playing football for the old St Louis Cardinals.
If I remember correctly, Roger Estep was an Army Ranger in Vietnam and agent orange is what gave him the cancer that killed him.
Great video!
The 70s Big blog was so important to my early lifting career. Great stuff.
You should be at 1 million subs tbh, you're a wealth of information and im just gobbling it all up daily. Thanks bro.
I don't know how or why I've gone this long without coming across your channel but I'm already sold. I'm in it!
"We're here to gain strength and size, not criticize". Slick delivery, Brom!
Also, well done on the 100k 💪
Congrats on 100k Alex!
Been with you a long time, you’re getting better and better, congrats on 100K
I new Kaz for a long time met him back in the late 80's great person to get to know. Kaz told me to treat your body like a puzzle. I gain over 150 pounds on my bench and took state and national championship. Im glad to know him.
Congratulations on the 100K milestone
In 1977 Doug Young benched 545 while having 3 broken ribs
Im on week 12 of your 70s program, doing it on Boostcamp, and both strength and size have been outstanding so far. Thank you
Awesome video! Immediately downloaded boostcamp and subscribed. Can't wait to binge your videos and look forward to new ones
So I actually did kaz's program 3 times as a life time natural lifter. this is what I will say! the first time I did it my bench went from 425 to 440lbs I think 450-455 was in the tank on that day. the second time I did the program my strength went backwards felt super tore up and injured my max stayed the same. The third time I altered the program only doing bench press 3 sets normal 2 sets close 2 sets wide, closer to week 6 I did 3 sets normal 2 sets close 1 set wide and finally benched 450. this program is not for everybody. I was super used to being over trained. In the past benched 3 times a week light medium heavy doing very similar amounts of rep work. As I was being trained in the past by my father who was a lifters in the 70s. If you are not used to reps and are a natural lifter prepare for some injuries or alter the program.
He trained 3x per week in the beginning bit went over to 4x a week, when he got older he went from full body to upper/lower, BTW did you also try out his diet? he was known for his huge appetite.
In my opinion, powerlifters looked like they could rip your head off because they did proper reps. Kaz didn't take a super wide stance on either the squat or deadlift. He wasn't trying to mask weak links as a means to shift more weight. If he had a weak link, he attacked it so his legs, lower back, lats, pecs, delts, etc. were strong. The other big factor is that most of these guys had an extensive background in athletics. Their bodies were more pliable, they probably had way less visceral fat, they moved their bodies explosively, and likely did a greater variety of exercises. All in all, they were simply using their bodies in a more dynamic way.
Strongly agree on this and a whole lot of analysis paralysis in modern training for any sport. When in reality humans adapt pretty well as it is. Spend a lot of time moving big weights - you get good at moving big weights, spend a lot of time doing things that require athleticism - you get athletic, spend a lot of time resting and growing - you get good resting and you grow. Find a balance between any of these concepts - you get a good balance of these abilities. Most sports have just reached such a high level at the top that many people end up trying way too hard. Often to a fault, especially if they're never gonna be at an extremely elite level that would require such effort
Your video's are getting much better. I'm liking the chapter intros.
Congratulations on 100K!!! It’s well deserved!
Really good video I competed from 1987-1991 and read Powerlifting USA from cover to cover every month for years and was able to get ahold of many older copies before my era.
The old magazines like Peary Raders Iron Man and Bob Hoffmann Muscular Development along with Powerlifting USA would regularly have pictures of 70s powerlifters and I always noticed how distinctive their physiques were from every other era.
Just dense and thick and lean and muscular!
I can remember seeing a picture of 275er Dave Shaw deadlifting and when I saw his physique and development I knew I wanted to be a powerlifter.
Throughout the history of the Special Olympics World Games Powerlifting events, even some Special Olympians in heavy weight divisions had impressive physiques, particularly PG Griffin who set the Special Olympics World Games Deadlift Record in 1999.
Special Olympics Canada Powerlifter, Jackie Barrett, had smaller arms than PG Griffin, but made up for it with his huge powerful shoulders and large quads at 6'1" and 295 lbs., resulting in an amazing 611 lb. Squat and 656 lb. Deadlift at 41 years of age at the 2015 Special Olympics World Games in Los Angeles. He was also a highly technical and smart competitor.
The key to Jackie's success was his revolutionary routines, including training up to 3 hours a day and 3-4 days a week, focusing on moderately heavy worksets and a lot of supplementary exercises. While most Powerlifters lift close to one repetition maximum lifts less than two weeks before a contest, Jackie did the opposite, he lifted light, meaning no more than 60% of 1RM for sets of eights.
haven't checked in on the channel for a while, been a little too busy for youtube but DAMN Bromley... quality of content has improved drastically. This was an awesome video. Love me some retro lifting.
As always, I enjoyed the unnecessarily deep dive. Your content is top tier
Started my first day of Bromley’s 18 week “70s Powerlifter” program on the Boostcamp App. I’m hyped!
Day 1 weighed in at 226
Max(s)
Bench press: 315
Deadlift: 600
Squat: 525
See you in 18 weeks!
Tactical dot, good luck and please respond with your results!
Keep us updated man
Very much interested as well.
lets gooo
Super strong u should post vids of ur progression
8:33 Definitely agree with this point. I used to do a fusion of muscle endurance with my power sets going up and down and hitting rep outs at the end. I ended up getting 225 for 49 and 275 for 50 reps on the same day while maxing out at 505 and 525 respectively. I used to get heat from the other power lifters that I didn't "have a program". I told them that I was the program and that I wanted more than just power. Definitely recommend what Kaz is saying and what this Alex guy is as well. Good stuff! Also, I got these results without anabolic or lifting shirts and I never looked like a potato in the gym either. :)
Your comment sounds like what Kaz would say 😂😂😂
Bro, definitely a great fantasticly put together video. When i wrap up this cycle of juggernaut a.i. I'm going to grab your e-book and try that last program you went over.
Awesome video. Glad I found it. I’m very good friends with Larry Pacifico. I did the Larry Pacifico challenge and what you paid for everything. Treated me like family. Also very good friends with Vince Anello. Yes the Powerlifter’s in the 70s had a great bodies, and a lot of them did bodybuilding as well.
What stood out to me was adapting to high amounts of work, so ima try adapt to an insane amount of work and see how that goes, along with eating since I'm smol
what an awesome documentary. I never saw this channel before but love it! Extremely informative and funny to boot. I remember the Doug Young DAys. What a stud
Won the World Powerlifting title in 1978 at Perth, Australia with 3 broken ribs. Video may still be on CZcams.
I met Doug in 1985 in Dallas at a powerlifting meet he had wide shoulders, a small waist, and no legs... as he was all upper body!! RIP Doug.
Already two days into your program, thank you so much!!! I have a question tho, in the peak phase there are variations set at a certain percentage like block deadlift and sumo deadlifts at 70% for sets of 5, is that percentage based on our deadlift 1rm or our block and sumo deadlift 1rm?
I would guess deadlift 1rm. Also I would usually go for the lighter weight of the two whenever there’s a scenario like this.
I think it’s crazy how you both have special insight into this subject while also being genuinely funny and good at putting a joke together.
Idk if anyone noticed but at 10:56 that snap was timed perfectly with the ad
They also trained in higher rep ranges to build muscle. Modern powerlifters are afraid of any isolation movements or exercises over 5 reps
Those guys back then were monsters, Estep had a 800 Squat in comp at 198s back in the 70s 200 pound guy Squating 800 50 years ago is crazy
Just discovered your channel, instantly subscribed! Congratulations on your 100k and best wishes from England 🇬🇧🙏💪
Great stuff! I couldn't shoot a single hole in any of it. I love all the programs and golden era photos added!
Do you have a program for overhead specialization for strongman training (or hypertrophy)?
Doug is what every lifter of a certain age still aspires to be
😂😂😂
True
He said he wanted to look strong as well as be strong. Succeeded.
100k man...that is awesome...congrats.
Congrats on 100k well deserved👏🏻
Gonna give 70's powerlifter program a try. Curious to see if there is indeed enough carry over from the squat to the deadlift day and vice versa to offset the basically once a week frequency for every main lift.
What would that program look like?
I've run it twice and am going to again soon. It's a great program but you really gotta be careful with that first week. You have to be super conservative with the weight you're using for your estimated 1RM or you'll blow your wad early on.
ive been looking into this stuff quite a bit, one thing that annoys me about my powerlifting is that i have gotten substantially stronger, but havent gotten much bigger, i blame my lack of food intake for this mainly, but it is wild to me seeing these dudes that look so much bigger than me in the same weight class, theyre a bit leaner, but im like 12% bf so im not like fat or anything. my strongman friend is getting me into conjugate training, well see how i do with that i guess
a lot of great info here. thanx.
Awesome information 🙌!!
Why were they so jacked... my guess... it was easier to get anadrol. I doubt it was "science based training " lol science based supplementation maybe.
That’s definitely not the case. It’s easier to get anything these days. The world is a lot smaller.
There are tons of more powerful gear now days
@@jakesmith6337 oh yeah, that’s for sure. It’s everywhere.
Dude I ordered drol Monday and it was here Thursday
Spoken like a true natty that doesn’t actually know anything about the substances they talk about. If anything the situation should be the other way around. There’s more access and far more knowledge.
Mark Rippetoes story about Doug Young at the 80 Worlds is great for those who haven’t seen it
Thanks for the awesome video!!
Very informative👍keep the vids coming sir🤩all the best from the uk 🇬🇧
Should have included what I meant by train like a bodybuilder...at least in my region of the country was each muscle group twice a week on 3on1 off split. Working sets of 6 to 15 to failure for three to four sets. 2 compound movements and three to four isolation exercises in 10 rep range per body part. Significantly more upper back and shoulder work then typical power lifter.
On the funny side bodybuilders have always hated to squat. They all substituted leg presses for squats. But I came from a football wrestling background and squats were mandatory. Most challenging thing I ever did weights was 20 rep squats until true failure.
I have gotten good results on the 70s power lifter program, especially on squat/deadlift. It is a ton of work though.
This one was awesome thanks!
Thanks for the great vid!
Pretty good coverage of how it was then. I saw them all lift in meets, saw many of them in the gym in the D/FW area over the years. Not all were big volume lifters. Mike Bridges comes to mind. He could put every plate in the gym on a bar inside a squat rack, seemed to like heavy low reps. Some of the routines you reference were "idealized" a bit like old Weider routines in his mags. Some or a lot of hyperbole at times. Some of the great physiques? Jerry Jones, Bill Seno, Buddy Ravenscroft, Larry Pacifico all come to mind. And Mel Hennessey's torso might've exceeded even Doug Young's! Doug actually looked his best very early on when he was still lifting at 242 lbs. He was extremely broad shouldered, had a vespine waist, narrow hips and while his legs were muscular and shapely, they weren't all that large. He looked like the cartoon character, Clutch Cargo w/o the blonde hair. I once mentioned that if Doug walked in one door, Arnold S. through another, I thought the audience's eyes would all shift to Doug. He showed up at meets in boots, tight jeans, belt buckle and a Henley shirt and sort of wore a constant grimace on his face. If Bob Young had chosen lifting over the NFL, just a guess Doug would've been #2 in his family. Others I saw? John Kuc (athletic looking), Big Jim Williams (trained BP nearly every day near max), Jo Jo White (shook like a leaf when he backed out of squat racks), Ronnie Ray (big drop set and used like a 30 sec pause at the chest set) . . . gosh, those were the days. So good, powerlifting was once televised on a major network. Then? They killed it. They killed it.
using high volume for nearly a year with super sets of 15 to 20 reps mixed with some sets of 5 or 6 , my body adapted and now when i do regular workouts, it seems i didnt do shit , and btw it takes up to 1 and half to 2 hours to make this type of workout. you do increase in mass , strengh and endurance.
with this kind of training is hard to have a partner willing to do it.
Yes, i do the same, i am a intense trainer.
thanks for an amazing video alex, just subbed u really delve into the right stuff, very interesting subject and explained perfect
Congrates on the channel milestone
In the Old DAYS we TRAINED with BODYBUILDERS...many of US COMPETED IN BODYBUILDING SHOWS
I was at the old Texas Athletic Club in Austin, Texas the day Doug Young walked in and benched 600 pounds wearing cowboy boots, jeans and a short-sleeve pearl button western shirt. It was effortless and one of the most amazing things I have or will ever see. Well that and Jesse Wood (on the same day at the TAC) squatting 750 with tennis balls wrapped behind his knees.
Saw him do 610 bench and 715 squat when he had a grand opening show in Brownwood TX for his new downtown gym. Frank Zane was a guest poser. Great day for a 23 yr old.
Congrats on 100k subs man!
Mein Bromley. Love the long form videos. Looking forward to the 100 rep squat video
Simple answer: Milk
Unfortunately milk was outlawed starting in the 80s
@@SolomonMagnus819 The great Dairy War.
I graduated from high school in the early 80s. I worked with a fellow from a neighboring high school. He was a lineman on the football team. He told one day he only benched 200 lbs. But his squat he claimed was 600 lbs. I never witnessed his squats, but his work slacks had to be altered for the largeness of his upper legs. I believed him.
This channel is a gem
Ty for the information bro.
I appreciate this. As someone who has been lifting for over 20 years, the iron has always followed me around.
The whole scheme about adding more weight for every extra rep you got in the last workout was really interesting -- the whole video is interesting, but that was the highlight that got me to come-on & comment.
Liked and subscribed!
Εvery cult or home gym must have the wall poster of Doug Young (no homo).
100k man , congrats!!!!
This is fascinating. A+
Excellent video!
KAZ was the all round strongest man in the 80's. Love him or hate him.
because they didn't Pull Sumo or do insane wide grip high arch bench or a insane low low bar squat with sumo stance squat. back in the day they did Full ROM