Jon Snow's Fire Wight's Watch (Melisandre's Secrets 4)
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2021
- Melisandre is probably going to make Jon into a fire wight, sure, but did you know that she's also going to create a fire wight strike force of resurrected Night's Watchmen to fight at his side? It's true, and you need to know about it. Get ready for some classic mythical astronomy in this one, and even a sash of Timett Son of Timett!
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Dolorous Edd is the only character that WILL a happy ending. No bitter sweet BS for my guy, he gets a harem of angels and feasts of beef, cheese, and fresh bread. I'll riot otherwise. I'll burn down a country every day.
I have to say, of all the ASOIAF channels, I am so confused as to how your channel is not WWWAAAYYY larger as far as subs go. It’s an absolutely amazing channel, and your personality just makes even more enjoyable. Keep up the work!
Yeah I know! 😂 no but seriously, thank you, and please tell your friends! I’m having fun but yeah if I got a little bigger I wouldn’t have to work my brains out like I do now... but I’ve been growing steadily the last 2 years when other channels have decreased, so I’m thankful :)
@@DavidLightbringer Only a matter of time, Lord Beers. This channel is straight fire magic and an absolute gold mine for anyone picking up the books for the first time who are only now going down the theory rabbit hole
Maybe because originally je called himself lucifer and you now how cristians are xD
I think Jamie might volunteer if he could get a firey hand to replace his missing one
Might not be the best thing for his arc. His whole POV plot revolves around him learning to cope with the loss of the old identity he crafted for himself, and learning to be a better man. Just giving him his hand back after he "learns his lesson" is kind of cheap in my opinion
I gotta admit "Light his own Sword" sounds kinda like an innuendo for self pleasure to me.
Dolerus Edd is the true prophet of ASOIAF.
It is known.
The Oracle at the wall
@@isabellamego5321 Need to look back through his appearances and look for smoke or 3 legged stools or any other Delphic Oracle easter eggs 😉
It is known.
This was super interesting. The Burned Men parallels are quite something. Now, I’ll have to think on it more. Best part of these videos. Keeps us thinking. 🔥
A yay another Lamb who also loves ASOIAF and @LML I thought @QuinnsIdeas was the only one
@@kimlambert4410 LMAO some of have taste, dahhhling! 💕🐑
@@Devoted2Mariah 🐑🌻
Could definitely see Jaime and/or Brienne being fire-wighted after facing Lady Stoneheart. Question is, will she pass on the last kiss herself, or will Thoros step in again? Plus, if she's heard about "Arya's" wedding at Winterfell, that could be the impetus for Jaime/Brienne to go north, since they currently seem to lack such a motivation in the books. Timing-wise, could this happen concurrent with the Battle of Ice? Would this allow Brienne to confront Stannis like she did in the show? So many questions, so many plots.....GRRM we're counting on you.
Lady Stoneheart should know that Jeyne isn't Arya though, since the brotherhood without banners told her that Arya was with them and got taken by the hound. That's why in the Merret Frey epilogue, they ask if he's seen the hound with a 10-year-old girl or boy at the red wedding.
Ach, Dolorous Edd's monologs. People should listen to him more!
Ed truly reads like he's lived through the past 5 years - when no matter how darkly you joke, wait just a bit and it turns out to be real life somehow 😖
Watching twice because that's what heros do. Have fun on vacation David.
I am honoured to announce that this is my first time waiting for a new LML video after having watched all of the videos on this channel over the last two years.
The name Beric may be related to Burak or Baraq, a word of Semitic origin meaning lightning. And the surname Dondarrion may be related to the Dutch word donder meaning thunder.
His coat of arms does have thunders😊 Black thunders on purple background with white stars, symbolising night sky
So, my guesses were all mentioned, but maybe Theon.
The NW vows changed at some point, adding the no wife, no sons part, right? If that was after the LN, was it because they changed from literal blood/life sacrifices pre-NK to figurative blood/life sacrifices post-LN? The new Fire NW seems like it would also satisfy this apparent blood/life sacrifice requirement.
Have a wonderful vacation!
That chapter George removed about Tyrion going to meet the stone king, or whatever the greyscale leader is called, always made me think of Tyrion meeting a ice wighted (evil) John. And somehow freeing him. Always wondered if that was a foreshadowing scene.
The Shrouded Lord!
Love the cover art, can't wait for this next installment of the Mel series. So 🔥🔥🔥
How long until this becomes a 8 video trilogy.
TEN YEARS
Nailed it
I don't know if anyone's said this but you're one of the best youtubers just because you give art credit all the time.
Just found your channel, completely filled the void I have of new game of thrones content. Looking forward to chosen of rhllor!
This was one of my favorites, so far. Very compelling and concise. Good job!
Aww thanks Modmary!
@DavidLightbringer -- When you mentioned Melisandre's sex magic, the first thing that popped into my mind was "make love, not war", which was a commonly used phrase in GRRM's life during the Vietnam War. So I'm apt to believe this may turn out to be true in some aspect.
5:42 I choked on my cereal so hard. The little inserts of humour you randomly put in your videos absolutely crack me up
Excellent Stuff ! Really pulling to see WUN WUN the FUN an FIRE FILLED ONE ! that would be epic and SO SIKED your doing an what if about Jaime/Brienne/Lady Stoneheart ! I I'm here for that !
The video production on this rivals and exceeds so many of the other great asoiaf youtubers you should be super proud of this. Be kind to yourself too get that rest in where you can!
Great content as usual!
Beric may have also been an aspect of Azor Ahai... I get the feeling that resurrection is playing a huge part in every long night and Azor Ahai reborn. Even before watching this video I was doing much research on ASOIAF and got the strong feeling that these are all the same people being reborn throughout the centuries. Such good writing from GRRM, it's almost unbelievable.
Omg,I love this so much..."A scarecrow of a man...the scarecrow knight" a lot going on there!Love it!I should've popped popcorn!!!!Nice work!!!
Hey 🙂 love this video
I wanted to comment from my perspective as a blademsith.
Lml, you point out that when lit on fire, Valyrian steel will probably hold up far better than standard steel. Well this is true even in the real world perspective. Magic aside, common steel will start getting softer, even just a bit, at 350-400°f but there are advanced steels developed through complexe technological process like CPM M4 that have extreme edge holding and toughness and that maintain their hardness past 700°F. So a sword made of that steel could handle being lit on fire even for a little while. Whereas a medieval steel sword would sustain irreversible damages after 2 or 3 minutes.
I don't know if George did his research, but if he didn't, he guessed right
So stoked for this video ♥️🧡🔥🧡♥️
"Mully" may also refer to "mullein" - a highly flammable plant used as candle wicks or torches. Mullein is also known as "candlewick plant" or "torches."
Great video loved it
This series is quite literally giving me life. Great stuff man!
Listening to you is so soothing, like listening to poetry! Thanks for produsing such amazing videos! Love that you conect all the dots for me!
Loving this series, praise R'hllor!
We could've had a sarcastic fire zombie in the show. Never forget what D&D stole from us.
best youtuber makes best video what else is new
Love your videos and how you identify the symbolism throughout the series. Really appreciate the amount of thought and effort you put into making the videos. I'll be looking out for your Atlantis book :P
I was born to rule the seven kingdoms and I will. 🐉🐲🐉
Loved your RHCP shirt! Great band, for great books.
great content, you deserve as much exposure as Quinn.
Quinn was always my favorite Sci-fi/Fantasy/ASOIAF CZcamsr but your content is definitely as good even though you both focus on entirely different aspects.
also great move changing your name, it's insane that that kind of thing can decrease your exposure but it probably has, keep going man, peace.
watching you go through the symbolism of timmett and beric and the nights watch and the scarecrows (etc. etc.) makes me understand why it takes so long for GRRM to write his books.
Yeah that’s a detailed one. But in a way, it makes it easier - he doesn’t have to invent brand new symbolism for every freaking character. Instead they group into families, with varying overlap.
I guess Ghost could become a fire Wright after he dies for Jon.
After a merging with Jon's spirit ? I guess not.
@@WilliamFarge Yeah that is in fact a problem but what if ghost becomes a shell like any normal zombie walker. Maybe only a residue of his former self
@@GreenDayFanMT We can imagine a sort of hive mind between Jon's and Ghost's bodies... but I still think that good boi will be "sacrificed" (in fact not, because Jon and Ghost will become one). I'm not crying, you're criyng.
@@WilliamFarge I just hope Jon's nose will always stay wet and healthy.
*sniff, Yes I am crying
Ghost has to die so Jon can get a dragon.
Caught a little of this live but back for the whole thing! Love the content! I’ve been training for a marathon and listening to your whole library helps the miles roll by
Narration, editing, theories *chefs kiss* 👌🏻
The videoseries you did over the last year are so well done, I can't tell which one is my favorite. Great use of artwork, the effects, the jokes and most important the densely argumentation. Thank you so much!
How dare you make more awesome content about our favorite fire witch!
Are we saying that the night's watch was originally made up of firewights? Makes sense
wights for sure, but ice or fire is hard to say. Coldhands could be one of the last hero's original watchmen
@@DavidLightbringer Hhmm, learning, I am...
@@DavidLightbringerI think they had a 50/50 policy.
Season 2 Tyrion: you can't fuck your way out of everything
Future Mel: just watch me
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Loved it
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@@DavidLightbringer BTW, its Brandon The Sheepish Lion Lambert 😉😂
Thankyou for making these vids :)
10:18 "a gaunt man with filed teeth"
Shelly! What I tell you about them damn skissherz?!
Finally Part 4!
only been waiting a month lol
the last 5 part series you did got me hoping this one would come out sooner.
However your videos are always worth the wait so i dont mind too much ;)
Great information and theories! Your editing is impeccable! Thank you! 🔥🔥
Ah, 1 year ago..this is now vintage Lightbringer👍
I'm loving your channel. Been binging it for this whole month. You deserve more subs! I rarely leave comments but you deserve all the "engagement" my dude!
Great video as always- I learn something new every time I watch your videos 👍🏻🤩
This was one of the best videos I have seen on the channel lately.
Always interested in more chapter readings
Very well done. Totally worth the wait.
Another excellent video. I know this is kinda off topic (maybe I'm wrong) but I was wondering if you've ever discussed the wildlings jumping off the staircase at Castleblack? I was watching one of your older videos and in it you mention the scene and how you were going to discuss it and it's symbolism in a later video.
you know I never did circle back to that one, it goes along with the Whispering Wood but I ran out of time during the Exile of the Others stream. I'll get it at some point
@@DavidLightbringer Looking forward to it and enjoy your vacation.
Great video. I had just learned about The Order of the Greenhand's video series about Catelyn Stark's absolute evil nature and I found it hilarious.
Thank you! Good job!
I'm so glad I've stumbled into this channel
Oh man this was a good series. Melisandre is incredible
@David Lightbringer indeed
Amazing series and amazing character.
Do you think she will be alive by the end of Winds? I've always wondered why the show didn't give her much to do after resurrecting Jon. Maybe in the books, her story ends there. Maybe she's Jon's Nisa Nisa
God I love this stuff! I’m so glad I found your channel I completely vibrate on the same wavelength as you do, thanks David🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Right on, be welcome!
@@DavidLightbringer you just hit all the notes: Joseph Campbell, Odin, Monty Python, Star Wars, the Witcher series, Thelonious Monk
Good catch on the flint barracks, first time of the naming. Only half way through but good enough time to say thank you comrade for the content.
I think i like the titles of the videos as much as the content of this channel
Thank you, LML!
HBO should have cast Flea for a part in "GoT." With all the talk of cutting off manhoods throughout the story, his acting experience would have fit the cast perfectly. Plus, he just kind of looks like a dude you might see skulking around the back alleys of King's Landing probably working up some kind of shady, money-making scheme. Which I mean as a compliment.
I sacrifice this comment to the Flames! May it fuel this video and receive many views for the night is dark and full of terrors! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
These videos are fascinating! I like the way you’re interpreting Jon’s dreams in a way that moves the plot forward. I love the symbolism of the red hair; kissed by fire. I immediately thought of Sansa 👩🏻🦰
You are the best asoiaf CZcamsr. Always original content and super interesting.
hey thanks a lot, I'm doing my best out here
Maybe Melisandre will glamour herself to look like Ygritte, since she says the whole “you know nothing jon snow” and jon sees himself killing her. She may think that will be how he transforms, by killing what he sees as his nissa nissa. And if shes a fire being, she’d light up his sword with her death.
Jon killed an OTHER named OTHOR?! How did I only just realise this?! 🤦🏾♂️ GRRM’s foreshadowing is undefeated
was re reading Arya's Hollow Hill Chapter right before i watched !!!! Matrix is real !!!
Watching for my fourth time
Dolores ed is one of my favorite characters for sure!
Great video as always!!
Question, do you think the bloodstone emperor/azor ahai was a fire wight?
And do you think the valyrians knew this magic of fire ressurection?
BSE could have been a fire wight or even something like a warlock / Undying one. Hard to say exactly
Dolorous Edd. Or D.Edd. The clues in the name!
🤣🤣🤣
The name implies Jon will be infertile dead (Arthurian legend plus edd).
I reinstalled Mount and Blade: Warband specifically to play the World of Ice and Fire mod again because of you and Alt Shift X and your theories. I was pretty stale on ASOIAF after the last season of GoT and debating if I even wanted to read Winds when it comes out and haven't started Hot D yet but this has *ahem* rekindled (get it? Cuz fire?) my interest after these 3 years. A mighty feat considering these 3 years have each felt like they were a decade long.
That earned you a sub.
Oh- and my vote is Definitely Doloros Edd as joining the Firey Watch!
I am really digging those shades. Are those spring loaded? I have some Dollgers that look similar.
Keep up the amazing content dude!
-Luis
My screaming brain: ONE OF THE DRAGONS (probably Rhegal and not Vicerys) WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE IN THE NORTH!! HE'S GONNA BE A WHIGHTED DRAGON FOR JON TO RIDE!! IT'S GONNA BE EPIC!!
My rational brain: Come on now, how's that supposed to happen?
My screaming brain: ... You ask too many questions....
Got it! If Azor Ahai is analogous to the Knight's King, Jon could end up fire wight-ing any newly dead Nights Watchmen, Rhegal, and... wait for it... Ghost! Problem solved and he doesn't have to end up as a boy without a dog. This is head cannon now 😆
Reveals age and generation at RHCPs references
Oh yeah I make as many 90s pop culture references as possible
Seeing the Soul of Cinder art has me hoping the Others haven't learned how to parry.
Mulled wine is so good, especially with pomegranate juice and cinnamon sticks.
Dude... You should have been the showrunner for GOT
This dude should write the last two books.
Yay 2 more!
Rewatch binge 🎉
Mully and Sculder !
Jon is so Darth Vader in the dream.
I hope Dolorous Edd becomes a fire wight I just think his comments on it will be so funny.
If Jon has LongClaw already, he shouldn’t need to light his sword at all…but in battle I could still see it being handy for secondary swords and weapons.
This is an older video, but I thought I would still comment anyway because I had some interesting thoughts while watching, even though you may have thought of these ideas already.
1) The Night’s Watch Oath is “I give my life and honor to the Night’s Watch, for this night and all nights to come”. Giving their lives to the Night’s Watch makes the brothers thematically undead as you said. And taking “for this night and all nights to come” literally, that would only be possible if the brothers were undead immortals who could serve forever for all nights to come.
Also, when Sam is at the Black Gate, he only says the second half of the oath. Which some people have said could mean the first half of the oath was not a part of the original Night’s Watch oath and was added later. This would exclude the “it shall not end until my death” line, leaving it open for the Night’s Watch to serve after death.
2) The line in the oath “I am the fire that burns against the cold” hints at the fiery nature of the Night’s Watch as fire wights. This line along with “I am the sword in the darkness”, “the light that brings the dawn”, and the vow to “take no wife”, equate the Night’s Watch with Lightbringer.
3) This idea is kind of out there, but…
So in the video you said that the obsidian weapons given by the Children of the Forest may have been the weapons that the original Night’s Watch ignited with their blood. And that this may be the origin of the belief that glass candles can only be lit by blood from one’s hands. But if the original Night’s Watch wielded flaming obsidian weapons, then the weapons of the original Night’s Watch were literally GLASS CANDLES. Which could mean that the War for the Dawn was (and will be) a PSYCHIC battle fought on the astral plane as well as the material plane.
The Night’s Watch being capable of remote viewing would definitely add to the idea of them being “watchers”. And the original Night’s Watch being astral-projecting glass candle sorcerers would tie into the Odin symbolism of the three known Lord Commanders (and parallel figures like Beric), and the berserker/ulfhednar references of Mormont and Jon in particular that you have talked about in other videos.
Also, the Night’s Watch are metaphorically candles. That which are used to bring light in night and darkness.
This idea has become a full on brain worm for me, and I am envisioning the Night’s Watch using flaming obsidian glass candle weapons to enter a trance state so their minds astral project to do psychic battle with the Others (alongside psychic tree wizard Bran of course), while their fight wight bodies enter a berserker battle fury to do physical battle with the army of the dead. Which honestly seems outlandish and fanfiction-y. Then again it might just fit with George’s other sci-fi work.
But at this point I am half convinced that Sam will use a glass candle at some point to fight the Others. He already used obsidian to kill one Other and become Sam the Slayer. He is in close proximity to glass candles. The maester initiation ritual is spending a night trying (and failing) to light a glass candle. Sam lighting a glass candle and using it would pass and supersede the maester initiation, in a way fulfilling Sam becoming a maester.
Again, brain worm.
4) I just like the symmetry between the Others being icy white shadows, and the Night’s Watch being fiery black shadows.
man I love this. watchers on the wall. man I want it
I am glad you liked it!
I also realized this kind of goes along with your theory of Daenerys using a glass candle.
Psychic battles seem out there for the series so far, but if magic is supposed to be increasing with each book, then who knows…
David, your zip-up hoodie is 🔥🔥🔥.
Where may I purchase it?
Cancel my last comment. Glad to see you're still making awesome content!
Lady Stoneheart or headless Rob Stark with the Hounds helmet
Tried mulled wine just the other day for the first time and I have to say it was amazing
I loved this series! lol, of course Timett ties into the grand ASOIAF plot somehow. Oh, George.
So Timett son of Timett, a Burned Man, kills the wine-seller's son by stabbing his hand - giving him a red hand or "burned hand" - and cutting his throat, giving him a "red smile" - turning him into a Weirwood.
Okay but this is making me think of Beric's "any knight can make a knight." So like, "any WIGHT can make a WIGHT"
Timett is a Burned Man and symbolic fire wight, and he kills the wine-seller's son and turns him into a symbolic Weirwood/burning scarecrow/fire wight.
Mel will (probably) turn Jon into a fire wight, and she is already fiery, possibly a fire wight on her way to becoming a fire Other.
Beric Dondarrion is a fire wight and Sandor Clegane (a cold other in this scene, like the kingsguard are cold other knights) makes fun of him for "knighting" the brotherhood without banners by laying his sword on their shoulders. Such a knighting ceremony to me only seems one breath away from ceremonially cutting someone's throat. If you knight someone with, let's say, a burning sword, that would be like setting fire to their arms or hands. The brotherhood without banners under Beric and now under Stoneheart can probably be considered burned men/fire wights now too.
The Faith of the Seven seems to have started in Essos with the Andals, and if fire magic was being practiced in Essos at the time, then the Faith could have risen from altered fire mage/R'hllor ceremonies.
I love all the connections you and George draw between death, servitude, vows, sacrifice, and slavery. I like that both the Night's Watch and the kingsguard seem symbolically dead. It's very curious to me that both the kingsguard (icy, living in a warm clime) and the night's watch (fiery, living in a cold clime) vow to own no lands and sire no children. The walking dead are essentially slaves to their god, so of course they can't own anything. Corpses can't sire children either. Melisandre can only have shadow children through intercourse, which would result in, let's say, a night's watchman breaking his vows. Maybe those vows are still just the Faith's twisted version of icy or fiery servants being sacrificed to become undead servants, or maybe the vows were created as safeguards so that a living icy servant couldn't be stolen away to become a fiery servant instead or something like that...
I'm guessing there's a similar setup with the icy Others somehow, unless they circumvented the need for an icy priestess by taking Craster's sons? Or maybe Dany needs to become an icy queen, opposite of Jon becoming a fire wight? There's some interesting possibilities going on here
yes I agree the others might want Dany for a new NQ as well. The Undying parallel suggests that