£17.000 For Repair ??? Audi RS5 B9 , 2.9 V6TFSI with engine issues ...
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2022
- Welcome to this next video. Customer recovers his RS5 directly from the main dealer . The vehicle was there for diagnosis and they were not able to start the engine. After a few weeks they suggest it will need a new engine unit for £17.000 + fitting. After this shocking information, the owner decided to bring the RS5 to our workshop. We spent a few days diagnosing the engine and this is what we found so far.
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😅😅😅 uk smae here plenty of uselles mechanics just ripping and barelly changing brake pads
😅😅😅 uk smae here plenty of uselles mechanics just ripping and barelly changing brake pads
Uneeded like there
@@slimfd2607 yep
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It's another example of how I can't see how a car like this will ever become a classic! Imagine trying to find of the parts in the future!
part number and supply and demand...
@dboatrig All German car manufacturers signed an agreement, that they build stocks up to 12 years, if I recall that correctly. Means, that you can roughly get parts till 20 years after the car was build. And that's from Audi, the non OEM producers will provide them even longer.
@dboatrig I sold my Audi TT Quattro last year, which was then 21 years old. My most expensive bill was about 300,00 €. No rust at all and was sitting most of the time outside. That thing was bulletproof.
@@0Turbox In contrast to your positive experience, that guy's RS5 certainly wasn't bulletproof!
@@ozzierabbit587 Sometimes, the problem lies behind the steering wheel.
Love your content! Your level of knowledge and professionalism is second to none. Having a garage as knowledgeable as yours is a life saver for us petrol heads as main dealerships are zero use at all
I don't own an Audi, but I have watched a few of your great videos with you and your friend and have a serious man crush. Joking aside, your professionalism, skill, and knowledge are superb. I think a lot of folk are beginning to realise that locating a specialist is far better than trusting a main dealership a lot of the time
He is a great man, I called him from United Arab Emirates to ask him about my AUDi A7 and he guided me through and gave me very good advices… he is the best!!
Nice to speak with you
Waiting for the next video. Very interesting situation. You guys are the real mechanics who really do diagnostics rather than Part Replacers. Audi Heros!!!!
A good methodical mechanic right there. Great to see to be honest.
Love the straight up 'I'm a mechanic here is what I am doing' vibe, keep up the great work brother!
You mean the "I'm a mechanic and I'll just throw parts at it 'till it starts" attitude?
Can’t wait for the next video. I will definitely use these guys for my car The best Mechanics I’ve ever seen.
The dealership have no clue what's wrong with the car you guys are amazing
They don’t repair them at dealer, if something internal wrong they put a new engine in..
@@lowdailys they will not even touch this one as it has a tune on it.
Really loving your videos guys. Super informative and well made!
Always great content. Congrats on 20k.
You can check your sensor with your multimeter before change it
stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago, took me one clip to sub. love the cars and the content. great job!! 👍🏼
Brilliant content and diagnosis, eagerly awaiting your next video 👏👏
In progress! Hopefully next week
Situation 2,000,875!
You verify that dealerships are at often times looking for massive profits over customer service/truth.
You're a great mechanic with honor and integrity.
In AU/NZ, the V6s in the B9 has proven reliable so far with my local garage saying they haven't seen as many issues compared to the other engines. The B9 platform in general is plagued by thermostat, waterpump, and sensor issues though (typical Audi). I've subscribed and very eager to see more B9 content.
It Is … but more and more people are calling us now regarding 3.0TFSI B9 and 2.9 .. more shocking information soon 😩
@@VAGTechnic bummer - I was planning on keeping my S4 for a couple more years.
@@kevindeloria2920 same
@@VAGTechnic I think people with custom maps that weren’t done right are starting to pay the price
I read that Audi secretly solved the problem in models from 2019+.
When I heard you saying the car apparently is going to need a new engine I was like hell no, I don’t believe that. Not long after, the car starts even tho there is some knocking. Thank you for these videos because I’m learning a thing or two. Waiting for the next video
You guys are very professional
Another great video, looking forward to the next part
Can't wait to find out what it is. Things like this will drive you nuts!
Great video and amazing Contetn!
Hello from Croatia :D
I have a rs4 avant with 40.000 miles still has original front rotors, runs sweet perfect very fast beast, cat s from co part, I have sorted minor front splitter damage could have repaired but replaced with Audi new parts, pics to prove, have run it for last 5 years awesome fun with it, it’s a must drive it to take it in, guaranteed drive and buy, it’s due engine service and trans oil change, OZ 20 inch wheels on it and the original set in near knew condition, will come with it , £18000 will buy it, I picked it up at 20k and never once launched it it a hate of mine, if you respect it it will look after you 👍
Hello Gents, top content like always!
I'm glad that my car coming to VAG Technic professionals very soon! Hope the cost wouldn't be massive 😉
Waiting for second part 👍
Expecting the SQ7 tomorrow
@@VAGTechnic That right 👍
There is a special term for what you guys do; EMV (Experience Meets Vision). Absolutely top top Engineers…
he fires parts at cars based off codes lol, i wouldn't call that engineering
@@uncleTedLol Well compared to the Audi engineers 😀 whose option was to replace the whole engine - I bet VAG are the hard-core engineers.. The rest is just the rest 😴
Dealers basically said, we don't know what it is, so instead of fault finding we need to replace the whole engine
Bruh, TD1.. not under warranty, so why bother? Just logical business.
@@Matt-rk3de doesn't make sense at all. It's part of being a mechanic which dealers seem to not have.
@@mattbanagan each dealer is different? And the fault is most likely due to the sketchy obd tune? I agree, it’s lazy
Hi.
You’ve a great platform here.
I watch all your videos and you and your friend in the workshop are unique and rare to find as genuine , fantastic mechanics.
What happened about the defective engine from this Audi ?
Are you following it up ?
Thanks for sharing all your videos.
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Great work! I own a 2018 Audi S5 B9 petrol (45k km/28k miles), so I am hyped for all your S/RS content on the B9 platform.👏 But hopefully not too much, as it will mean they break down a lot. 😄
Just had phone call to day regarding S5 B9 … 😄
@@VAGTechnic hopefully its the diesel version... 🤣😂😅
Jokes aside, looking forward to all your content. 👌🤘
They do, and it's never cheep
It's an Audi. It's guaranteed to break down a lot.
Well done boys! And loving that RS5 burble 🥰 Whats up with the Quattro project next to it? More info on that one? And congrats with 20k subs!
Look forward to next video 👍
Thoroughly enjoy watching your content. Very disappointing about the Audi diagnosis and quote, confirms my opinion of them. Great work guys.
I have total faith you guys that this car will be running again soon sounds Beautiful make sure you film the road test ABUSE IT 😁😁👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾🙌🏾👊🏾
top bloke knows his stuff more then Audi does
Can't wait to see the outcome.
The world is a better place with genuine gentleman like yourself brother trillion respect.
I had an Audi s3, bought with low ks and full history and it was a beautiful car but had gremlin after gremlin. Was great when it was going well but it seemed nobody knew enough about it to keep it that way.
Nice work 👏 🤙👍
Somehow that BRUH at 8:16 cracked me up. I went back at least 2 times 😄
Bravo. Well done
Really interesting issue with this engine. Not an old car or a high mileage either. I look forward to you discovering the cause. BTW the wiring harness and coil packs on these 2.9s is a right mess. I had a bad spark plug on my V8 S5 and thought it was a bit of a job to work the packs and plugs out, but this engine is way worse! Thank god for VCDS as it saved me a crap ton of work figuring out which cylinder was affected.
I'm wondering if the dealer found it jumped timing and then immediately wrote "new engine" because they don't deal with internal repairs unless certain conditions apply (ie: oil consumption fixes, no piston to valve contact, etc.). I would check the physical timing of the engine, especially ince the cam sensors were pulled. It's probably electronic or electrical, but this way one can rule out a timing jump.
We also need to see all the error codes.
Great work guys! Today mechanic are not mechanic anymore, they can only replace parts instead of diagnosing a car. They only want to do brake jobs nowadays. Shame on Audi
Bravo guys, top diagnostics work as always. Keep up the great work. Are you both also guessing timing chain change?
We already took the engine out , parts what are needed are here as well so by next week second video should be out and everything will be explained
@@VAGTechnic odakle ste
@@akskurir 🇸🇰
@@VAGTechnic 🇷🇸
@@VAGTechnic kao da mi se ucinilo da pricate na nasem jeziku nesto
Super videa, jste moc šikovní, Anglánům závidím, že vás tam mají. Mechaniku jako vy je nedostatek. Jinak mám RS5 4.2 55k km a předešlé video s výměnou rozvodu na staré rs5 mě celkem postrašilo😄👍🏻
Sme začali aj sk/ CZ kanál 😋 @naša garáž
Can’t wait to get my S4 done end of year 😁
You're baaaaack...✌️✌️,made my day 🙃🙃
Glad you waited 😅 I was away and too much was going on , more videos coming soon
YOU are the Best!
Top work Audi dealers full of fitters now if they computer or manual does say which part to fit it’s new engine!
No wonder I won't go near a main dealer! And also people have little trust in them.....so called experts my arse 😭 that customer should go right back to them and threaten them with court for outright theft! Well done again lads 🔥🔥🔥
I think that the dealership drain the oil, and seeing the bearings from that lifter rocker. And the metal from those rollers. You did not see them because if they change the oil. So I wonder if any of the material from those roller rocker or in bearings are in anything that is destined to destroy the engine later.
Crazy that the dealer would misdiagnose that bad, but man this guy really fires the parts cannon hard.
Woooooooow so many parts was replaced , bankruptcy
Looks like there was some damage on the end if the cam sensor you replaced, has the tone ring on the cam shifted so it's giving the wrong cam/crank correlation?
good to you! you are doing very well👍tell me the approximate resource of the 2.9 biturbo engine
They were the days when all you had to do was change your points and spark plugs . Technology has got in front of itself .🤔
These new 2.9 twin turbo motors make the old 2.7 bi-turbo look like a pleasure to work on...
Very Nice engine
Legend mate
Nice job, happy owner 🤔🤔😊
great video
Fajne odcinki I rzeczowe .....widac polscy potrafia .... pozdrawiam
Fascinating video...what us old school mechanics would call a head scratcher....needs a new engine because it won't start...???....no wonder they call them main stealers...they are complete rip offs....can't wait to see the next video to see what the mechanical issue(s) are..👍👍
Unbelievable!! New engine from Audi!!
17,000 pound engine replacement? That's NUTS!!!
I've had my audi A5 b8,5 3.0 tdi 245 quattro from brand new, and now after 270.000km I started looking at replacing the chain (preventatively) and audi quoted me 10.000 euros, where Darkside quoted me half that. Prolly about time to sell it to some young lad and buy a 2018-2019 S7 (the last years where they put in 4.0 tfsi, which not only sounds amazing, but also easily goes to 550-570bhp 800-830nm within stage 1, which is the safezone limit for the s-tronic of 1000nm)
I bet it's an exhaust cam rocker that has packed up and fallen off the lobe/valve
...kj, I watched the next video before this one. If only life worked this way where someone can tell you exactly where the fault is.
btw, would the coolant 'injection' into the engine have anything to do with the failed rocker arm? causing the engine to hydraulic excessively? Great content btw!
What hand held PC are you using in this video to run your VCDS? I like that, way better than dragging out my laptop.
Seth Rogen's double life as an Audi master mechanic in the UK.
Nice job on the accent Seth
Funny the guy has this issue, I had a similar issue with my B9 2018 Audi S4 it was infact the relay under the passenger door sil - it was fully burnt out was sort of an "ECU" problem. Check there it maybe that sounds very very similar to the issue I had.
Ждём вторую серию...
My Audi A5 (B8, 2011) had a Banner battery from the factory. I think the Banner battery is a valid alternative for this car if it has the proper specs and has been coded properly. Banner also has an official BEM manufactory code from VAG.
Something tells me, that the Audi main dealership technicians couldn't be bothered running through all the diagnostic tests that you're doing, and the easiest option for them, was fitting a new engine, at the customers expense of course.
Audi amateurs, you can't call them mechanics because they aren't
I bet audi saw the car had a tune on it and washed there hands of it.Dealerships can really be funny about ecu mods,possibly putting them off properly investigating the problem.
Audi prefer to fit engines as it’s more cost effective
@@FM-mn9xq because they don't know what they are doing. I speak from experience
Bang on, the engine was modified. So they wash their hands of it.
Good job... I think that engine skipped timing somehow
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Hi sir.
I have audi q7 3.0tfsi. 2012
I have problem with black smok exit from exhust.when i use my car inside city only .. or when make engine high tempretur. Just inside city.
I replace plug and injacter and supercharge and mabsensor and oxjen sensor .... And when i read it by computer no code recorde .. but stay same problem .. do you have any idea about it.
Thank you sir.
Audi przewaga dzięki technice 🤑
You said you are not a fan of a tune in the ECU. Could you explain why you feel this way?
scope bank 2 and 1 and crank save fitting parts be a lot quicker also it will check your wiring and at the same time make sure the reference voltage is correct
Agree. Signal analysis will tell all
😅 it Will not … but don’t worry you will find out why
Even mechanic fault can be shown on the signal
@@VAGTechnic good luck lads hope you find the cause
@@Sean_Diagnostics not if the ring on cam is still there but turned around 😂and the timing physically is fine …
Really loved this Porsche developed engine and sad to hear this car’s situation. Can’t wait to see next video. Probably, a valve spring might be broke n
You are not far 😄 but in that case the compression will be 0 on 1 cylinder
Oh you are right, I’ve forgotten in between the video.
Maybe a broken cam follower?
Broken cam follower would still show 0 compression.
does this car have an aftermarket exhaust? sounds really loud
V6 or VR6? 2.9 i think was in US version of VW Golf 3 Synchro 194HP
Could I ask why aren't you using an oscilloscope and scoping the cam and crank signals and taking a look at the comparisons between left and right banks?
No place where to put it in really , hard to tell in what position it is anyways , and on the end of the day engine was coming out anyways
Which tuning company did he use?
This is some awesome diagnostic work! Just another confirmation, that dealors are out to make money, not to help really
Off course they are out to make money…..aren’t we all?
Honest money YES!!!!!
Not stealing
@@macmac989 who’s stealing? You have a choice? Under 60k is warranty anyway?
Diag work?? Throwing parts at it? 🤣 Crank sensor needed? Nope. Cam sensor needed? Nope. Set of plugs? Nope… As a main dealer tech of 19 years this shit depresses me.
@@ninjabob8170 straight new engine 👏👏👏 that depress owners
I think the tune caused timing and fuel ratio issues which fowled and shorted various electrical parts.
Same problem in my s5, it was tuned with jb4 and now i have same issues
Shit sorry to hear..you have e an update?
Wow, I like the ethics of replacing small less labor and part intensive items. Most shops do it the other way around.
No they don’t 🙈
@@ACERASPIRE1 Experience has taught me otherwise. ECU replaced when it was actually a contaminated MAF. Gas tank taken out and fuel pump replaced for a vacuum leak. Solenoid replaced for a fuel tank pressure leak when it's actually a gas cap.
These shops got to meet the bottom line. That's the whole reason most ASE certified literature will warn techs not to hand the vehicles back to customers without the monitors run as it's basically dishonest and gives the customer the impression that the vehicles are fixed when they aren't; It's either greed, incompetence or just not reading their shop guides.
@@mightymulatto3000 One could also test those sensors and if they are working, no need to replace at all.
@@Th3R4k True. Most of them also have affiliated DTC codes too. I'm not sure why anyone would try to replace them in the absence of a code.
@@mightymulatto3000 I was pointing your comment about ethics and swapping parts. In this case, those part swaps were unneccessary. I guess they did what they did with good intentions, but still waste of customers money.
I want to know more about the MKI Scirocco in the background :)
One day … one day …
Always trust the guy with the backwards cap...
I know someone who took his Audi RS5 to the Audi dealer for its first sevice, got home, next day car would not start. They forgot to put oil in it!!!
Výborne chalani zo záhoria,páči sa mi ako tym anglánom ukazujete ako sa operuju tie dojče vagen..(:
Ibaže nie mate ten volant na druhej stranie? (:
Zdravím z ostravska.
Ale zahoraci ? a odkial presnejsie zo Zahoria ?
Before watching this channel I loved always to have audi a6 or A7 or a5 but now think god that I don't have😅
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Banner are very Good batterie broooo
For RS modely only
What tablet are you using with the vcds?
Some Windows one
Why are the 2.9s now so complicated to repair? The 3.0TFSI was a breeze compared to this. My A6 c6 with the 3.2 is super simple to work on!
They not that bad , it’s just a “new” concept have to get use it like any other new engine 😉
Going by the oil colour, number plate and straight pipe, I feel a little sorry for that poor car
Badly modded and raked to crap.
Proves when you don't use a scope, you need a lot of sensors
What you want to scope ? 😂
@@VAGTechnic all of the things you didn't need to replace and a relative compression test. A scope would have saved you a lot in terms of time, guessing and unnecessary replacement parts
@@belfastboy2811 I was thinking the same thing.
Ivan from Pine Hollow diagnostics would have had a scope on this in the first half hour, relative compression off the starter current and cam-crank correlation with a pressure transducer in cylinder 1
with high technology to high cost of repair
After the battery, why wouldn't you check the fuel delivery system first? Plugged fuel filter, bad fuel pump... etc. etc. etc.
“I don’t know how they’ve tried to diagnose the car”.
I think you’ve hit on something there.
I’m guessing the conversation went something like this:
“Boss, we don’t know what’s wrong with the car, its cranking, but it won’t start”
“Well, have you changed the oil and filters and given it a clean and vacuumed out the trunk? “
“Yes?”
“And it’s still not working?”
“No boss”
“Is it under warranty”
“No boss”
“Just tell the customer we need to replace the engine!”
Most people who work in these main dealers have little beyond basic service knowledge.
Guys check the water cooler that cools charge air …. It’s licking with coolant
Already here 😁👊