I saw these in-person and thought they looked great! I personally don't use my phone while crossing roads, but I think the ground in front of you changing from red to green gives you a lot more visual information which is never a bad thing.
Seems like the sort of thing that I'd expect to show up as part of a major upgrade that was happening anyway, or a new build, because I'd bet a fair bit of that cost came not from the items themselves, but from the labour needed for installation. most of which you're already paying for when doing a major overhaul/new build anyway.
I think this will eventually backfire, because it makes people comfortable looking down, instead of looking around. Even if there is a green light for pedestrian, vehicle may pass through. If people watch their phone and look down, chances are they won't notice incoming threat. If they looked around, they would have higher chance to notice it and avoid stepping forward...
@@kleonymos5726 yeah who cares about people not paying attention let them die that would just be a wonderful idea that is definitely the right thing to do
and then there is taking up the pavers to wire the LED's into the power on each corner and into the operatating system including diverting pedestrians with signage - as workers would be close to moving vehicles it would be considered high-risk work and hourly rates higher. It's not just a matter of sticking down some LED's.
Light up pavers, light up strips on the posts, light up building wireframes. I don’t think you understand just how much I want that neonpunk aesthetics.
As a colourblind person I have to say that it's not a good design. One of the strengths of traffic lights is that red and green lights are separate. Even if you can't tell apart their colour you can still say which signal is on. With this design it's much harder.
I really like them, they’re so pretty…even if, on occasion, I have completely ignored them when safe to do so. I wish every corner in Melbourne had them
Thanks for taking me back to this particular corner where I hung out with my pedicab Thu through Sat nights Jan-March 2008. It was just me and some other guy I've met in Copenhagen but we kinda ruled the night from Cosy to Cherry Bar, sometimes down to the Casino. Had lots of fun with great people.
Those at Little Collins St, along Swanson St, were installed just before the Melbourne Comedy Festival in '17, as at that location as Swanston St just past there has 1000s of people, going along outside in March/April, as well an hundreds going into the Town Hall for shows, plus people buying tickets for shows (if they hadn't online). Was much fun watching people notice the new lights (outdoor cafe just there), but after few weeks, most people didn't stop on red, as most don't at the 'Little' streets anyway Reason for that location being first, the thinking was many people would be looking at their phones, to get their e-ticket ready, as well as those heading to shows & perhaps texting friends they were meeting. For 2 weeks they even had people there, explaining them.
In an avenue in argentina (where i live) there is something similar. Not a big light panel, but small "bumpy lights" next to the start of the crossing, just like the ones in this video. I havent found them particularly helpful nor awful, but they are unique so its a nice change of pace :D
@Dacia Sandero guys I generally think the more accessible the better, however I can understand weighing costs (financial or otherwise). Not sure how they’re dumb though
I wonder if part of why Melbourne can do all this interesting stuff is because they're big enough to have the budget without being so big they have other really major issues to deal with like NYC or London.
i feel like when your about to cross a street is probably the second most important time to it be looking at your phone while walking along a street, the most important time being while you’re crossing the street that you were just waiting to cross
Similar technology has been deployed in some German cities as early as 2010. Main use was on tram crossings to warn people about incoming traffic. Research shows it doesn't really work though
They have some light up crossings in Portsmouth in the UK that do the same thing except they stay off until it's time to cross and glow white. Much cleaner looking than those tbh
The "one in five" people who are looking at their phone crossing the street deserve what they get. No help required. Individual competence and personal accountability is under threat.
I know these were installed at a heavy pedestrian intersection in Bendigo last year along with touch-less buttons. So maybe they are making a come back.
you have the same hand pattern as me! 1 line across the palm, i have them on both hands. Love your vids, i studied urban planning in Melbourne, will checkout these changes whenever I find myself in Australia again!
In San Francisco, when a pedestrian got hit right in front of city hall, they installed flashing lights in the pavement that were pedestrian activated for drivers to see. I worked briefly as a school crossing guard in Australia, and too many people were impatient; proceeding before we were out of the road. I got tired of citing inconsiderate drivers and breathing exhaust fumes, and decided pedestrian activated lights viewable by drivers, combined with ticketing cameras would be the best way to stop these horrendously inconsiderate drivers. The lights alone wouldn't help, but the ticketing cameras might convince the worst to consider using a different street or follow the law.
Really cool. In-pavement lights on the street tend to have maintenance issues. Nice to see something like this outside of the pavement. $120,000 though...... :O
Perfect for at night. I live in the USA and just on my walks to and from my classes I have to cross 5 streets. One of them has an audio cue, but for the most part all of the crosswalks have only one way to indicate when to cross or none. I think that there should be as many as possible.
I think this is a bad idea since it just incourages people to use their phone while crossing, now they don't even need to glance up. I think instead they should do something to discourage people
World first? Lighted zebra crossings were installed in various Dutch and Belgian towns; Heerenveen, Groningen, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp and Brussels in 2016. Technically we’re looking at different types of pedestrian crossings, but the concept ...... 🤔 With the lighted zebra crossings, it makes drivers aware someone is approaching or is on the crossing. I think a safer option.
@@klasfdj Reported in Washington Post Feb 16 2017 .”officials in Bodegraven-Reeuwijk, about 25 miles south of Amsterdam in the western Netherlands, are piloting a program that they think may help protect such distracted pedestrians. At a handful of intersections around town, illuminated LED strips of light (called "+Lichtlijn,” or light lines) have been installed into the pavement.” “The “light lines” can change color and are synced with their corresponding traffic lights; as soon as the normal crossing light turns red or green, so, too, does the one in the ground”
havent been into the city for ages. didnt know they were a thing. cool looking. i do however remember having fun with the crossings in camberwell that had infrared (or something) sensors in them instead of buttons. you could pretend to jedi mind trick the lights.
Meanwhile in America, Walmart installed something similar in front of the entrances. They're nonfunctional. They just rattle your teeth and break all the shit in your cart as you cross the unavoidable pieces of garbage.
Seems like a lot of money for those results. I suppose it might not cost as much if they were redoing the intersection anyway but I have to wonder how often they fail and what they cost to fix.
Hi Ryan, in August we installed them at a major intersection in Bendigo, and at a pedestrian crossing across the Princes Highway in Trafalgar. There's also a set in Dunedin in New Zealand. There will be more!
Don't know about Victoria, but in Queensland, it's illegal to be on you're phone while crossing the road. Just because you CAN cross, doesn't stop the possibility of some idiot in a car doing something they shouldn't. Stupid idea, furthers distraction of your visual surroundings...
Instead of teaching people to stay off their phones and pay attention to your surroundings. Your just encouraging them to stay on their phones and accommodating their addictive behavior. What next an LED bar on your steering wheel to remind you to drive? Wait.....I think they did that too.....
Can confirm. Been broken quite frequently. Dead LEDs or completely switched off when others in the area worked. When the LEDs die, the whole block goes.
shouldn't it be common sense for you to look up from your phone and be aware of your surroundings when you're about to cross a street with cars that could instantly kill you?? cool cross walk, but we shouldn't be needing it ;-;
@@craigalexp well, it is common sense. it’s the law. but we do get idiots and people rushing who don’t or can’t stop at traffic lights, so it’s common sense for both pedestrians and motorists to pay attention
I saw these in Bendigo last week, I had never saw them before. My friends and I were like "YO! They added RGB footpaths!"
Is that the one on Mitchell St? I saw it last week too. Very cool!
Have you seen me cube?
They sgowed up a few months ago, along with a crossing to Rosiland park that is motion activated.
For that price, they shouldn't have skimped on the B
This stuff should have been invented in 2003. :)
Forget being on the phone, these have helped me while drunk 😂
The real reason
I saw these in-person and thought they looked great!
I personally don't use my phone while crossing roads, but I think the ground in front of you changing from red to green gives you a lot more visual information which is never a bad thing.
Seems like the sort of thing that I'd expect to show up as part of a major upgrade that was happening anyway, or a new build, because I'd bet a fair bit of that cost came not from the items themselves, but from the labour needed for installation. most of which you're already paying for when doing a major overhaul/new build anyway.
I think this will eventually backfire, because it makes people comfortable looking down, instead of looking around.
Even if there is a green light for pedestrian, vehicle may pass through. If people watch their phone and look down, chances are they won't notice incoming threat. If they looked around, they would have higher chance to notice it and avoid stepping forward...
No one really uses them anyway so it's a moot point.
Thats what we call a self solving problem.
@@kleonymos5726 wow, I love your way of thinking!
@@kleonymos5726 yeah who cares about people not paying attention let them die that would just be a wonderful idea that is definitely the right thing to do
$120,000 is far too steep of a price for some LEDs.
I’ll do it for 119,000
$110k if you can pay cash
I will do it for $95,000.
With a 95% upfront payment.
*on the 30th of February only
obviously you don't know the real cost of LEDS an inserting them into the mats.
and then there is taking up the pavers to wire the LED's into the power on each corner and into the operatating system including diverting pedestrians with signage - as workers would be close to moving vehicles it would be considered high-risk work and hourly rates higher. It's not just a matter of sticking down some LED's.
Reminds me of Solar freaking Roadways
Light up pavers, light up strips on the posts, light up building wireframes. I don’t think you understand just how much I want that neonpunk aesthetics.
Hey I've seen those! Julian your channel is the best thing ever for a Melburnian like me.
They are in Bendigo..
As a colourblind person I have to say that it's not a good design. One of the strengths of traffic lights is that red and green lights are separate. Even if you can't tell apart their colour you can still say which signal is on. With this design it's much harder.
I could see commercial applications of the technology, maybe at sporting events and other spectacles.
I really like them, they’re so pretty…even if, on occasion, I have completely ignored them when safe to do so. I wish every corner in Melbourne had them
To me this is just encouraging pedestrians to be distracted. Fantastic idea and design however.
Exactly. As if being distracted by a phone isn't enough.
Thanks for taking me back to this particular corner where I hung out with my pedicab Thu through Sat nights Jan-March 2008. It was just me and some other guy I've met in Copenhagen but we kinda ruled the night from Cosy to Cherry Bar, sometimes down to the Casino. Had lots of fun with great people.
I was in Bendigo a few weeks ago and they have them there Julian.
Nice - cool to know.
Those at Little Collins St, along Swanson St, were installed just before the Melbourne Comedy Festival in '17, as at that location as Swanston St just past there has 1000s of people, going along outside in March/April, as well an hundreds going into the Town Hall for shows, plus people buying tickets for shows (if they hadn't online). Was much fun watching people notice the new lights (outdoor cafe just there), but after few weeks, most people didn't stop on red, as most don't at the 'Little' streets anyway
Reason for that location being first, the thinking was many people would be looking at their phones, to get their e-ticket ready, as well as those heading to shows & perhaps texting friends they were meeting. For 2 weeks they even had people there, explaining them.
These are everywhere in Melbourne 😂
In an avenue in argentina (where i live) there is something similar. Not a big light panel, but small "bumpy lights" next to the start of the crossing, just like the ones in this video.
I havent found them particularly helpful nor awful, but they are unique so its a nice change of pace :D
@Dacia Sandero guys ill take that as a compliment lol, thanks!
@Dacia Sandero guys I generally think the more accessible the better, however I can understand weighing costs (financial or otherwise). Not sure how they’re dumb though
A good idea, but people should be encouraged to look out for traffic, even if the lights are green.
I wonder if part of why Melbourne can do all this interesting stuff is because they're big enough to have the budget without being so big they have other really major issues to deal with like NYC or London.
We have the tactile tiles in Serbia, didn't know it was for the blind, until i saw a bling guy using them, had an eurika moment.
We had them trialled in Sydney too after many people were hit by cars crossing the intersection whilst heads down looking at their phones.
i feel like when your about to cross a street is probably the second most important time to it be looking at your phone while walking along a street, the most important time being while you’re crossing the street that you were just waiting to cross
I feel like the flashing could be dangerous at night for epileptic people like myself
Similar technology has been deployed in some German cities as early as 2010. Main use was on tram crossings to warn people about incoming traffic. Research shows it doesn't really work though
we have them in Trafalgar at the highway pedestrian crossings
We have these in Singapore too!
"1 in 5 people cross the street while looking at their phone." This is a bad thing to encourage.
Seoul has these everywhere!
i always thought it was at that crossing specifically because people always cross there without looking
They have some light up crossings in Portsmouth in the UK that do the same thing except they stay off until it's time to cross and glow white. Much cleaner looking than those tbh
Every time me an my brothers see these we tap our hands like they are a phone so we can get the most use out of the light up pavers
Can't wait to see some dude high af slamming these things with a hammer to get the magic crystals out
The "one in five" people who are looking at their phone crossing the street deserve what they get. No help required. Individual competence and personal accountability is under threat.
I know these were installed at a heavy pedestrian intersection in Bendigo last year along with touch-less buttons. So maybe they are making a come back.
you have the same hand pattern as me! 1 line across the palm, i have them on both hands. Love your vids, i studied urban planning in Melbourne, will checkout these changes whenever I find myself in Australia again!
They were in Saturday Night Fever in 1977.
gamer roads
take me home
it's-a me
mario
Smart idea!
We have quite a few of something similar in Sydney's CBD, they seem to be rolling them out a lot more in Sydney.
Will have to look out for them
Well having to look up to see when to go forces people to look away from their phones and be aware of their surroundings
Saw these a few weeks ago, they look great
people who have deuteranopia: 👁👄👁
In San Francisco, when a pedestrian got hit right in front of city hall, they installed flashing lights in the pavement that were pedestrian activated for drivers to see. I worked briefly as a school crossing guard in Australia, and too many people were impatient; proceeding before we were out of the road. I got tired of citing inconsiderate drivers and breathing exhaust fumes, and decided pedestrian activated lights viewable by drivers, combined with ticketing cameras would be the best way to stop these horrendously inconsiderate drivers. The lights alone wouldn't help, but the ticketing cameras might convince the worst to consider using a different street or follow the law.
The world is becoming Detroit:become human, and I am *so* ready
OK I have to ask... How many people were just "guessing" when the light when green and crossing while looking at their phones before this arrived?
If you are gonna cross the road while on your phone.....we'll do fine without you. RIP
It's good. I actually want to see it more beside Melbourne. Probably just the government doesn't want to spend money 😕
Full support for this kind of cool and futuristic experience,.
Really cool. In-pavement lights on the street tend to have maintenance issues. Nice to see something like this outside of the pavement. $120,000 though...... :O
$120,000 to reduce the number of people receiving Darwin awards.
Sad that something like this has even been designed. Sadder still that folk are so caught up in their phones that these lights even become a thing.
I see similar in and around Chinatown in Sydney.
I think that it would be to distracting…
Perfect for at night. I live in the USA and just on my walks to and from my classes I have to cross 5 streets. One of them has an audio cue, but for the most part all of the crosswalks have only one way to indicate when to cross or none. I think that there should be as many as possible.
I like the idea, but they're always breaking down or half-broken
I think this is a bad idea since it just incourages people to use their phone while crossing, now they don't even need to glance up. I think instead they should do something to discourage people
SOLAR
PHREAKIN'
ROADWAYS
These are blinding at night
I was gonna say haven’t seen one of these
Pretty sure they had these in Japan before they had them in Melbourne.
World first? Lighted zebra crossings were installed in various Dutch and Belgian towns; Heerenveen, Groningen, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp and Brussels in 2016. Technically we’re looking at different types of pedestrian crossings, but the concept ...... 🤔
With the lighted zebra crossings, it makes drivers aware someone is approaching or is on the crossing. I think a safer option.
These are different thought, it is a world first for light up tactile/blind dots.
@@klasfdj Reported in Washington Post Feb 16 2017 .”officials in Bodegraven-Reeuwijk, about 25 miles south of Amsterdam in the western Netherlands, are piloting a program that they think may help protect such distracted pedestrians. At a handful of intersections around town, illuminated LED strips of light (called "+Lichtlijn,” or light lines) have been installed into the pavement.”
“The “light lines” can change color and are synced with their corresponding traffic lights; as soon as the normal crossing light turns red or green, so, too, does the one in the ground”
@@wilsonwombat3456 not the exact same but similar, not suprised the netherlands did it first though. they design everything really well
@@klasfdj I wouldn’t deem a variation of an existing concept/design/invention a ‘world first’ . Seems the Dutch are in the lead in this case.
@@wilsonwombat3456 well they were both put in at the same time in 2017 so about the same really.
*Cyberpunk 2077 Vibez* 😎
dad is that you?
havent been into the city for ages. didnt know they were a thing. cool looking. i do however remember having fun with the crossings in camberwell that had infrared (or something) sensors in them instead of buttons. you could pretend to jedi mind trick the lights.
Meanwhile in America, Walmart installed something similar in front of the entrances. They're nonfunctional. They just rattle your teeth and break all the shit in your cart as you cross the unavoidable pieces of garbage.
Saw these in Bendigo the other week, pretty neat!!
Seems like a lot of money for those results. I suppose it might not cost as much if they were redoing the intersection anyway but I have to wonder how often they fail and what they cost to fix.
I’ve seen these only once there so cool
Nobody thought about the fact that using red/green colour without any other distinguishing feature is useless to red/green colourblind people?
I wonder what color blind people think of it
i thought something was about to hit him when the video came flying in while he was crossing the street oh my god
I've seen these in Night City
Oh no
Damn no more of those? I loved them!
Hi Ryan, in August we installed them at a major intersection in Bendigo, and at a pedestrian crossing across the Princes Highway in Trafalgar. There's also a set in Dunedin in New Zealand. There will be more!
i’ve seen this in singapore where i live!!
Just 1 in 5 where using their phones while crossing busy streets you sure it's not more like 4 in 5
I always question that light up paver whenever I walk across that street.
You might be living in a Billie Jean music video 🕺🏻
Julian with those old RMs 😍
Team Australia
Cool but expensive
Yup
Don't know about Victoria, but in Queensland, it's illegal to be on you're phone while crossing the road. Just because you CAN cross, doesn't stop the possibility of some idiot in a car doing something they shouldn't. Stupid idea, furthers distraction of your visual surroundings...
How about a little thing called 'personal responsibility'?
there are the same in korea for a long time
It's to save morons who won't look up from their phones...
Solar freaking roadways
I love ♥ these
But you should stilk be looking up. Traffic lights don't stop all vehicles.
They are being used in Europe.
Instead of teaching people to stay off their phones and pay attention to your surroundings. Your just encouraging them to stay on their phones and accommodating their addictive behavior.
What next an LED bar on your steering wheel to remind you to drive? Wait.....I think they did that too.....
Are you related to John O Shea of Manchester United?
The matting they use to allow light through have been installed in every single train station and Never used... Monash Uni is WRONG as always
Love it but $120,000? How?
Don't accommodate the text-walkers.
The lights are cool but have been broken many times I've walked there.
Really? Can’t remember seeing them not working.
Can confirm. Been broken quite frequently. Dead LEDs or completely switched off when others in the area worked. When the LEDs die, the whole block goes.
@@GForceConnections Meh, you get what you pay for I guess. Shouldn't have been so tight.
shouldn't it be common sense for you to look up from your phone and be aware of your surroundings when you're about to cross a street with cars that could instantly kill you?? cool cross walk, but we shouldn't be needing it ;-;
I agree, it seems to be pandering to stupidity. I mean, it looks great, but yeah.
Common sense has gone the way of the dinosaurs.
Shouldn't it be common sense that motorists stop for traffic lights. What do you expect a pedestrian to do when a motor vehicle is coming at them.
@@craigalexp well, it is common sense. it’s the law. but we do get idiots and people rushing who don’t or can’t stop at traffic lights, so it’s common sense for both pedestrians and motorists to pay attention
Seems like a waste of money, energy, and completely unnecessary. Not to mention a source of light pollution and a maintenance hassle
These are a pain in the Ass !
What an asinine embezzlement of money