Since shadows is my first map i lean more towards that like it took me ages to do all the rituals but when i finally did it for the first time i was so happy i also enjoy learning how to do the best beast mode runs and use them as effectively as possible
Comparto tu sentir, yo aprendí a dominar cada zona con el modo bestia. Es bastante satisfactorio, otros jugadores se sorprende y es el resultado de mejorar tu gameplay. ❤
Personally, these two maps are tied for second place. Both are incredible in their own respects, but I’m gonna have to lean more towards Origins. The Panzer is too iconic and installs so much fear when the siren sounds that the Margwa seems like a hellhound by comparison. 1st is still Mob of the Dead though.
@@TheGamingRift11 In some respects, I agree. The map layout is definitely better on Shadows, and returning to Pack-A-Punch is a lot easier on Shadows. I still hold Mob in higher regard though due to its captivating story and arguably stronger atmosphere. Shadows also has great atmosphere, so I could see the argument there. I know I’m a heretic for saying so, but I prefer the blundergat to the Apothican Servant. While the Apothican Servant is objectively better, I have more fun using the Blundergat, and it has more use against its map’s boss, Brutus. I also think that Brutus is a better boss than the Margwa, simply because he has the added risk of locking the map down, incentivizing players to kill him quickly. Overall, both maps are great.
Origins no competition Wonder fizz Maxis drone can revive players 4 staffs instead of only one person getting the servant Elemental punch you can one tap Soledads with reygun mark 2 literally forever just better Map for training on high rounds upgradeable monkey bombs g strikes are dope asf the list goes on man better wonder weapons shadows legit only gives you waw raygun and lil arnies
Ah yes i love a map were i get murdered by a big man in armor. Really tho there also to many things wrong with origins You must use the wonder weapons Templar zombies Never really spin the box No new perk The robots foot not working really good Stamin up needed Mud "All staffs upgrades" Fire staff breaking your game on bo2 and being trash on bo3 Normal staffs being trash Only 2 useable staff for high rounds.
@@TheGamingRift11 taste is completely subjective tho my friend, its okay to like shadows if you like shadows as theirs no real right answer it's all opinions but Origins is just a very very good map.
@@sassythesasquatch8286 tbh FBIagent brings up compelling points But given the criteria I would say with confidence that shadows is objectively SLIGHTLY better than Origins although I go back and forth which I like more as these are my 2 favs
@@fbiagent.. Mark 2 for armed zombies literally one taps them, and oh man don't get me started on the mud it is pretty annoying fr I don't remember it being that bad in bo2. Look up the round 100 damage number guild on YT, ice and wind are strongest staffs. and yet ppl still use fire on high rounds If you don't already use wind staff don't sleep on it it's surprisingly good
@@TheGamingRift11 Not above Origins, but yes slightly above DE which is my 4th fav. ZnS has way more content for me and I like the atmosphere a lot more.
These are my 1 and 2, but origins loses points for the mud, still to this day needing a guide to translate the symbols for the staff upgrades and small annoyances. Shadows doesn't have those problems but also doesn't have four wonder weapons, or good characters,
@@StraeOutaJerz there's also perma jugg in bo2 which can be stacked with regular jugg and that tops widow's wine. There was also waw jugg that was op in verruckt and shi no numa. There's going to be at least one situation where you will go down just because you didn't have any web grenades left to save you. (Ik they replenish every round and you get more with a max ammo and there's also that spider power up, but I'm talking about if you don't get any refills on the same round.)
@@TheGamingRift11and how does it have a better pack-a-punch, when it stole it from origins. The rituals are just like the generators, so pack-a-punch goes to origins
@@TheGamingRift11 you could basically say origins introduced a perk because it was the only map in the whole game to have phd in bo2. Plus it's one of the maps to have the most amount of perks
I agreed with pretty much all the options besides difficulty. I think origins is WAY more difficult than shadows imo. Because of this, I think shadows is more enjoyable as it's easier (again imo) to set up on shadows than it is on origins.
Joguei ambos e acho que o bo3 é mais fácil de se adaptar e fazer o easter egg o Origins primeira vez jogando demorei 6 horas pra fazer o easter eggs em round baixo agora no bo3 em menos de 1 hora já estava na última parte da bandeira
Shadows tem Chicletes que facilitam demais o mapa Além de que consegue fazer peach punch bem rápido com a facilidade de matar o Margwas que morre até pra pistola inicial e RK5... Panzer >>>> Margwa Origins trouxe a revolução pro BO onde ja era perfeito
@@SlidenintoyourDMs by that logic any of the 4 BO3 DLC maps would win over Verruckt, the map that introduced PERKS as well as the core 4 🤷♂️ despite the fact they reused perks from previous maps/games
@@TheGamingRift11 yes that's exactly what I'm saying the perks category goes to origins because it has the most perks that's what that category would be expected to mean while introduced perks is a second category that verruckt or ascension would win depending on how much you like PHD and stamin-up
@@TheGamingRift11 what I meant was bo2 was on ps3 and origins was awesome on that gen but shadows on ps3 is just terrible der eisendrache isnt to bad tbh and de is my favorite map of all time but the giant meh average map
@@ezpeasy3967 I’m aware, and DE and The Giant were on PS3 also and they were dog shit on last gen😂 So I’m hoping you agree there since otherwise it would be hypocritical 🤔
Origins carried the entire gap between bo2 and bo3 soe could never nuff said
Nah it could’ve
truth
Shadows is so much better 😊
@@TheGamingRift11no it couldn’t EVER
True
Since shadows is my first map i lean more towards that like it took me ages to do all the rituals but when i finally did it for the first time i was so happy i also enjoy learning how to do the best beast mode runs and use them as effectively as possible
Comparto tu sentir, yo aprendí a dominar cada zona con el modo bestia. Es bastante satisfactorio, otros jugadores se sorprende y es el resultado de mejorar tu gameplay. ❤
Origins was so much more enjoyable to play in my opinion
It’s a fun map
That's because bo2 in general is better than bo3.
@@Rayan-qy8sbnot zombies
@@BK-sh2pn specifically the zombies is better. Just play it again and you'll notice.
@@Rayan-qy8sb I did play it again, the bo3 maps and engine is definitely better
Should've added music and atmosphere
Yeah If I ever remake these videos I’ll need to add more criteria’s :)
I really like shadows of evil and origins. They’re both great Mabs.
Edit dawg
Personally, these two maps are tied for second place. Both are incredible in their own respects, but I’m gonna have to lean more towards Origins. The Panzer is too iconic and installs so much fear when the siren sounds that the Margwa seems like a hellhound by comparison. 1st is still Mob of the Dead though.
And then there’s me, who thinks shadows is a no nonsense upgrade over mob
@@TheGamingRift11 In some respects, I agree. The map layout is definitely better on Shadows, and returning to Pack-A-Punch is a lot easier on Shadows. I still hold Mob in higher regard though due to its captivating story and arguably stronger atmosphere. Shadows also has great atmosphere, so I could see the argument there. I know I’m a heretic for saying so, but I prefer the blundergat to the Apothican Servant. While the Apothican Servant is objectively better, I have more fun using the Blundergat, and it has more use against its map’s boss, Brutus. I also think that Brutus is a better boss than the Margwa, simply because he has the added risk of locking the map down, incentivizing players to kill him quickly. Overall, both maps are great.
Both are amazing
For me origins is the best map ever made
For me it’s either origins or shadows 🔥
Definitely the top 2. Everything else feels easy, outside of tranzit
Love these videos my personal favourite is origins ❤️
They both go back and forth for my favorites but I’m in that origins mood today
That’s exactly my thoughts
I grew up with shadows
Origins no competition
Wonder fizz
Maxis drone can revive players
4 staffs instead of only one person getting the servant
Elemental punch
you can one tap Soledads with reygun mark 2 literally forever
just better Map for training on high rounds
upgradeable monkey bombs
g strikes are dope asf
the list goes on man
better wonder weapons
shadows legit only gives you waw raygun and lil arnies
Hmmm
Ah yes i love a map were i get murdered by a big man in armor.
Really tho there also to many things wrong with origins
You must use the wonder weapons
Templar zombies
Never really spin the box
No new perk
The robots foot not working really good
Stamin up needed
Mud
"All staffs upgrades"
Fire staff breaking your game on bo2 and being trash on bo3
Normal staffs being trash
Only 2 useable staff for high rounds.
@@TheGamingRift11 taste is completely subjective tho my friend, its okay to like shadows if you like shadows as theirs no real right answer it's all opinions but Origins is just a very very good map.
@@sassythesasquatch8286 tbh FBIagent brings up compelling points
But given the criteria I would say with confidence that shadows is objectively SLIGHTLY better than Origins although I go back and forth which I like more as these are my 2 favs
@@fbiagent.. Mark 2 for armed zombies literally one taps them, and oh man don't get me started on the mud it is pretty annoying fr I don't remember it being that bad in bo2.
Look up the round 100 damage number guild on YT, ice and wind are strongest staffs. and yet ppl still use fire on high rounds If you don't already use wind staff don't sleep on it it's surprisingly good
Definitely origins🤖
Bruv i love how riktophen goes in to chronicles takes the sumening key and going back into origins
Personally I like soe more but both are great no matter how you look at it
They are both fantastic I agree
Whats your favourite map of all time
Either Shadows Or Origins
@@TheGamingRift11 good choices
Let’s see one wonder weapons on shadows and 4 on origins and a mode of transportation and really good mini boss the panzer
Wow. Lowballing Shadows much? 😅
They are literally both my favourite maps of all time (alongside Zetsubou) so its hard for me to choose one.
Damn, zetzabou above DE and origins? That’s some respect
@@TheGamingRift11 Not above Origins, but yes slightly above DE which is my 4th fav. ZnS has way more content for me and I like the atmosphere a lot more.
@@crabpeople5541 ahh fairs
shadows is clear bro, and i also think the characters are good since they're original.
If you gave me the choice...I would ask why you want to kill me.
Shadows Solo☝️☝️
I wouldn’t go that far
These are my 1 and 2, but origins loses points for the mud, still to this day needing a guide to translate the symbols for the staff upgrades and small annoyances. Shadows doesn't have those problems but also doesn't have four wonder weapons, or good characters,
I agree tbh
the characters in shadows are amazing
Shadow carachters are incredible
Easter egg that doesn't need four players = Origins
specialists for shadows
I’d recommend the round 2 version
Bro how does shadows have better perks than origins 💀
Because it introduced a perk in widows wine 🤷♂️origins had no new perks and the wonderfizz fell under innovation
@@TheGamingRift11 I'm not trying to start something, but this is like saying would you rather only have widow's wine or all 9 perks in origins.
@@airtiger4577Widows wine is literally the better than any perk in bo2 and it’s even better than jug
@@StraeOutaJerz there's also perma jugg in bo2 which can be stacked with regular jugg and that tops widow's wine. There was also waw jugg that was op in verruckt and shi no numa. There's going to be at least one situation where you will go down just because you didn't have any web grenades left to save you. (Ik they replenish every round and you get more with a max ammo and there's also that spider power up, but I'm talking about if you don't get any refills on the same round.)
@@TheGamingRift11and how does it have a better pack-a-punch, when it stole it from origins. The rituals are just like the generators, so pack-a-punch goes to origins
SOE is overlooked because it's the initial map. Origins did save the game mode but people only prefer Origins over SOE because of nostalgia.
Didn’t mob and buried save the gamemode?
@TheGamingRift11 I guess it's a matter of opinion what map saved the game mode. I've always seen it as origins saving the game
Perk go to origins for being the only bo2 map with phd. And having electric cherry.
Origins didn’t introduce any perks - Shadows did
@@TheGamingRift11 you could basically say origins introduced a perk because it was the only map in the whole game to have phd in bo2. Plus it's one of the maps to have the most amount of perks
I agreed with pretty much all the options besides difficulty. I think origins is WAY more difficult than shadows imo. Because of this, I think shadows is more enjoyable as it's easier (again imo) to set up on shadows than it is on origins.
I’d recommend the round 2 version
Difficulty was more so how fair a challenge it is rather than how easy/hard it is
For all the people who claims widows wine to be to best perk you are heavily mistaken.
I never enjoyed bo3 because I don't have PS4 to play it I played it on ps3💀
Ahh….. last gen Richtofen
Easter eggs = shadow of evils
12-8 Shadows but Origins is my favorite map and Shadows is my second favorite map!
Imo, Origins > Shadows Of Evil (High-Extreme Diff)
I’d check out the part 2 I made
I love shadows and origins equally I'm not good at origins but I want to get my first staff
Origins has phd, electric cherry, and everything shadows has except widow’s wine… how does SoE win perks?
Nah bro. Origins carried all the other maps
Edit: we’ll maybe not ALL the maps but it was up there. Just better-imo-than SOE.
???
both are really fun
Fax
Shadows of evil is way too better in my opinion
SoE solos every map.
Origins is the best map ever
@@Qeezyvfxfax
No@@Qeezyvfx
It's honestly could go either way imo
i like both
Agreed! They are in my top 3
I love call of duty call duty is my favorite I like zombie games call duty
origins is the best
Joguei ambos e acho que o bo3 é mais fácil de se adaptar e fazer o easter egg o Origins primeira vez jogando demorei 6 horas pra fazer o easter eggs em round baixo agora no bo3 em menos de 1 hora já estava na última parte da bandeira
I respect your opinion, but I’m still gonna favor origins over shadows.
Music?
After dark Reverb
@@TheGamingRift11 Which one? There’s a lot of them. This one’s like a hybrid/mashup.
Shadows tem Chicletes que facilitam demais o mapa
Além de que consegue fazer peach punch bem rápido com a facilidade de matar o Margwas que morre até pra pistola inicial e RK5... Panzer >>>> Margwa
Origins trouxe a revolução pro BO onde ja era perfeito
Los dos god mapas
It's hard to pick they both very good maps
Origins and it’s not close IMO
I’m fine with that but the shadows disrespect 😭
@@TheGamingRift11 I respect shadows as a map but imo I don’t ever find myself wanting to play it.
Shadows of evil never beat kino der toten
It never lost to it either 🤔
@@TheGamingRift11 dempsey nikolai richtofen takeo is a zombie heroes
@@98hassan ….okay? Meaning what exactly?
MoTD gaps both ngl🤧
Whatever you say
There both great
Agreed
Shadows is better.
In my opinion I would say origins takes the W mid-high diff
Origins because primis
Shadows is so much more fun imo
shadows of evil is horrible, it does not have the iconic 4 characters
The characters is the only drawback to the map IMO. Although they aren’t awful
Both are fun, but shadows is definitely the best zombies map of all time,
1 shadows
2 buried
3 mob of the dead
4 origins
Shadows no question
I go back and forth between which is my favourite 🎉
Okay perks is bs bo2 origins had phd and bo3 origins had all soe perks plus deadshot and electric cherry origins won the perks catagory
Origins didn’t introduce any perks, shadows introduced widows
Please understand the criteria before criticising
@@TheGamingRift11 if you just say perks it will be assumed that it means all perks on the map not the ones it introduced
@@SlidenintoyourDMs by that logic any of the 4 BO3 DLC maps would win over Verruckt, the map that introduced PERKS as well as the core 4 🤷♂️ despite the fact they reused perks from previous maps/games
@@TheGamingRift11 yes that's exactly what I'm saying the perks category goes to origins because it has the most perks that's what that category would be expected to mean while introduced perks is a second category that verruckt or ascension would win depending on how much you like PHD and stamin-up
@@SlidenintoyourDMs okay that’s absolutely fine.
Looking forward to your own videos where quantity of perks > perks introduced
🔥
Shadows is the third best map of all time just behind origins and DE
I can respect that
my top 3 is 1. mob, 2. shadows , 3. de. i understand why origins is on your list tho
In no way what so ever is shadows boss fight better than origins boss fight they both trash lmao
The none existent origins boss fight 😁
@TheGamingRift11 well speaking of which i couldnt consider soe a bossfight aswell.
Tie
bro origins Top W
It’s a fantastic map
origins fs
Shadows is way kid
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@@TheGamingRift11 sorry bruh I do not know why instead of saying good I say kid I meant to say shadows is way to good
@@Contemplatingspider all good 😂
Need dlc?
Soe:+1
O:0
Broke?
Casual_gamer58 +1
DrewOffline 0
Hmm hard one but i would say origins considering it was first on ps3 and the shadows on ps3 is terrible lol
I hope you also hate The Giant and Der Eisendrache also then 😂
@@TheGamingRift11 what I meant was bo2 was on ps3 and origins was awesome on that gen but shadows on ps3 is just terrible der eisendrache isnt to bad tbh and de is my favorite map of all time but the giant meh average map
@@ezpeasy3967 I’m aware, and DE and The Giant were on PS3 also and they were dog shit on last gen😂
So I’m hoping you agree there since otherwise it would be hypocritical 🤔
@@ezpeasy3967 it’s almost as if origins was optimised the best it could be on PS3 whereas Shadows, The giant, and DE weren’t 🤔🤦♂️
@@TheGamingRift11 de was actually not to bad on last gen compared to shadows
I think orgrijs is overrated but it’s still far better than shadows
Hmm
i simply can not agree with you. as much as i love origins. shadows is in my top 2 maps
origins is the best map objectively
Wrong
Any actual points? (Also I made a round 2 which I’d recommend as it’s more specific with more categories)
Cap 🧢
Nope