Grew up in Citrus Heights in the 50’s when theses beauties were still being used to haul freight over Donner. The whistles were heard at our house throughout the night. What a memorable sound. My dad would take us to the “Hump” to watch the boxcars roll down through a series of switches to make up a train. Then we got a TV😅
I had considered further down Casa Loma Road but settled on Loch Leven Lakes. It will be awhile before I can get the video processed and uploaded. Needs stabilization.
I doubt if any of the "Big Boys" ever pulled her, but watching 4014 haul her train over Donner Pass reminded me of the UP/SP's City of San Francisco. I seem to recall an occasion or two, when steam locomotives were used as helpers over Donner Pass (could have been "cab forwards!"), but the train was diesel powered it's entire life. Thanks for a beautiful video of a spectacular locomotive in action over the famous pass.
25yrs or so ago I was driving to/from SLC when this loco was headed to Promontory for the Golden Spike Commemorative ceremony! Pretty cool to see her again all these years later! Thanks to all for helping keep history alive!
4014 was at Promontory a few years ago with 844, but there is no way it was there in 2001. 25 years ago, 4014 was at the LA County Fairgrounds on display as part of the Rail Giants Museum. UP 3985, a Challenger class locomotive, made an appearance at Promontory in 1994ish, perhaps that is the locomotive you saw?
@@glorialotz3333 well you should watch the Vintage Big Boy documentaries like "Last of the Giants", so you'll know why the Stack hoods are for. If you ever encounter a tunnel while chasing the Big Boy, you'll watch the stack hoods closed before or after the tunnel.
I saw this as a kid at the LA County fairgrounds in the 1960'/70's. Then when I heard they were going to take it and refurbish it I went to the fairgrounds to see it before it left. It was sitting next to the mainline as they waited to make the final track connections and move it. Took more than a few pics of it, impressive. I have never seen it running in person but videos are always nice!
She hasn't moved with that much purpose since her freights as she did yesterday trying to make up time after that tree strike in Auburn. Simply amazing to behold!
New trains are everything old trains are not. But old trains have got something different about them that just holds me in awe. The sight and sounds and even the smells are hypnotic. No one today says “ Get in the car kids the 4 o’clock is coming in “!
I took a picture of this exact train on the turnstile at the Pomona fairgrounds before they carried at across the country for restoration. This is awesome
Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 is doing the same trip that Southern Pacific Cab Forward 4274 did back on November 30th 1957. The Last Cab Forward over Donner Pass! Only now it’s the First Big Boy over Donner Pass!
@@Deadbuck73 They're Stack hoods. As you can see them on 4014's smokestack. They're for deflecting the smoke when Big Boys (and Challengers too) go through tunnels including Hermosa tunnel used by the Engineer. Very rare to catch those things when 4014 goes through tunnels.
@@Deadbuck73 They're doors over the smokestack--invisible once retracted--to keep smoke down in tunnels. I saw them pop open when 4014 cleared the tunnel.
At 02:36 - moving at track speed limit of 30 mph coming around that bend, with just a little bit of help from that EMD SD70ACe 4,300 hp diesel locomotive, and then at the 03:42 time code mark, in a spectacular video capture of it's "raw brute 7,000 horespower", the UP4014 "Class 4000" (Big Boy class) is hauling the whole consist, including the 408,000 lb "dead weight" UP1983 diesel locomotive which is idling at "Notch 0", out of the shed. Very impressive video capturing, Aaron!
Big Boys never put out 7,000 HP. LOL. Fake News! They put out 6200 HP max with a clean boiler, 5800 HP in typical operational condition according to William Kratville, who literally "wrote the book" on UP Big Boys.
@@markantony3875 - Kratville's book, which I have, was written decades ago, before the "super restoration" of Class 4000 UP4014. UP4014 is not your typical "UP Class 4000" that Kratville wrote about = it is much more refined and "built up for power" than it, and it's brothers, were. Ed Dickens will answer, if asked what the hp rating is of UP4014; "7,000 horsepower @ 41 mph". Read the specs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy
@@DonVideoGuy007 Ok, if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Go ask Dickens for the official test report of that 7000 HP. He won't give it to you because it DOES NOT EXIST. Dickens is just making this up. Plus, I hope you understand that anyone one can put any information they want into Wikipedia. No proof needed. Dicken's story goes like this: Some "engineer" (he won't say who) "told" him, that "they" estimated the Big Boy now *magically, without any testing or proof* now puts out 1000 HP more than the really smart mechanical engineers at ALCO engineered it to. Ed Dickens has ZERO education in science and engineering. He is just a mouth piece for the UP Steam Program.
@@DonVideoGuy007 I will make a deal with you. You obtain an official report from the Union Pacific that show (1) the date of the 7000 HP test (2) the location of the test (3) What equipment was used to measure this "7000 HP @ 41 mph" (4) The boiler pressure (5) The Superheat temperature (6) The pounds of steam produced per hour by the boiler (7) the firing rate of the oil burner. Post it here, and maybe I might change my opinion. But, good luck finding that information because I know for a FACT it does not exist. 🤣🤣
@@DonVideoGuy007 Even better. Ask Ed "Tricky Dicky" Dickens to just publish his official test report of the "7000 HP @ 41 mph" with the criteria I mentioned online with the blessing of UP management of the UP Web site. That way, those of us that are actual mechanical engineers (unlike him) can study this data. For some reason, I don't think UP Management is going to agree to put something on their web site that does not exist...
Wonderful program. I wonder how the 4014 compares to the big cab forward on static display at the Sacramento railway museum. I'd like to see it restored to running condition and put to the test with 4014. It's huge.
Great video man! Looks like you know a lot of niche spots on Donner, every place I filmed it was crowded as shit, except for Emigrant Gap (video is on my channel)
Shame I couldn't get any videos of it. I was already in Tahoe and was trying to get some pictures on my way down, but decided to just leave when I heard it got stuck in Auburn. By the time I got to Roseville, it was already in Colfax, so no videos for me
@@hapster85 Wow, that is cheap. My wife and I rode behind 4014 and 844 on the return trip from the Spike150 celebration in 2019. The trip was from Ogden UT to Evanston WY. Dome seats were $5000 and were sold out in a matter of minutes. We got coach seats and rode in the Columbine dome car. Those tickets were $3000 each. Of course that was 4014's maiden excursion and it was also a double header with 844 which probably will never happen again.
As Biden Boy exited what I assume was a snow shed, something around the smoke stack was lowered to what looked like a normal Big Boy stack. Was that device to allow more smoke out it the locomotive once it cleared the shed?
Hi Aaron would you be interested in adding to your video I captured some decent drone footage of it in Colfax and Truckee I don’t have enough footage to make a nice video like your but I think k with what I got and what you already have can make it even better!
Where did they pick up the rest of the passenger cars? And what it the car that looks a bit like a dome car, a couple cars ahead of the first dome car?
That is power car 2055. That is the first time I have seen that power car in the consist. In the past they have used car 2066 which serves the same function but looks a little different. Those cars supply electrical power for the passenger cars. Along with the electric generator they have a walk in freezer and refrigerator and a commissary storage room for the dining car along with quarters for the attendant.
So they don't overstress the boiler on the Big Boy. Steam locomotives need frequent and expensive maintenance. The more they are used, the more expensive it becomes.
So they don't overstress the boiler on the Big Boy. Steam locomotives need frequent and expensive maintenance. The more they are used, the more expensive it becomes.
We are reminded why the SP had cab forwards as the Big Boy came out of the snow shed. Great video, thanks.
Thank you for the coverage. Grampa was a SP boilermaker for 35 years. The whistle is Grampa saying hi !💓
Grew up in Citrus Heights in the 50’s when theses beauties were still being used to haul freight over Donner. The whistles were heard at our house throughout the night. What a memorable sound. My dad would take us to the “Hump” to watch the boxcars roll down through a series of switches to make up a train. Then we got a TV😅
Your clip at Casa Loma Road (Baxter) is the exact angle I was envisioning doing myself had I been able to chase the run. Nice video!
I had considered further down Casa Loma Road but settled on Loch Leven Lakes. It will be awhile before I can get the video processed and uploaded. Needs stabilization.
Beautiful! Thanks for chasing her down for us!
I doubt if any of the "Big Boys" ever pulled her, but watching 4014 haul her train over Donner Pass reminded me of the UP/SP's City of San Francisco. I seem to recall an occasion or two, when steam locomotives were used as helpers over Donner Pass (could have been "cab forwards!"), but the train was diesel powered it's entire life. Thanks for a beautiful video of a spectacular locomotive in action over the famous pass.
No no no no you are disrespecting big boy its in the name its a boy
Outstanding video, well covered, great job.
25yrs or so ago I was driving to/from SLC when this loco was headed to Promontory for the Golden Spike Commemorative ceremony! Pretty cool to see her again all these years later! Thanks to all for helping keep history alive!
4014 was at Promontory a few years ago with 844, but there is no way it was there in 2001. 25 years ago, 4014 was at the LA County Fairgrounds on display as part of the Rail Giants Museum. UP 3985, a Challenger class locomotive, made an appearance at Promontory in 1994ish, perhaps that is the locomotive you saw?
Oh la la ! Magnifique le son de la big boy . 👏👏On dirait le barrissement d’un éléphant en colère ! 👍💪j’adore ! 😍💯
You did a wonderful job with capturing this remarkable train. Beautiful scenery also near the end. Thank you!
1:40 is pure symphony with the steamer and the diesel working hard together!
diesel working hard or hardly working?
@@notknightbeanIt seemed like it was working hard to me!
@@southern_railman It was in notch 1 or idle kid
@@Badeumus I doubt it from the sound of the engine.
The diesel only provides electric power to the cars and dynamic braking.
Neat to watch the smoke deflectors on the BigBoy work thanks
❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹 this represents the "great... old America" ❤❤❤
I was also at those 1st and 2nd crossings today lol
Thank you Aaron203 for such a beautiful video.... ... .. .
😃👍
2:42 Awesome Catch of the Stack hoods! Whenever you encounter tunnels or shed like this one, you'll think Stack hoods!
I didn't know there were such things.
@@glorialotz3333 well you should watch the Vintage Big Boy documentaries like "Last of the Giants", so you'll know why the Stack hoods are for. If you ever encounter a tunnel while chasing the Big Boy, you'll watch the stack hoods closed before or after the tunnel.
Exceptional video with beautiful vistas as a backdrop for such a mighty steam train. Thank you.
I saw this as a kid at the LA County fairgrounds in the 1960'/70's. Then when I heard they were going to take it and refurbish it I went to the fairgrounds to see it before it left. It was sitting next to the mainline as they waited to make the final track connections and move it. Took more than a few pics of it, impressive. I have never seen it running in person but videos are always nice!
I'm amazed at how well painted the cars are. Can't get anyone to paint your own car that nice unless they owe you big time.
She hasn't moved with that much purpose since her freights as she did yesterday trying to make up time after that tree strike in Auburn. Simply amazing to behold!
Excellent... well done.
New trains are everything old trains are not. But old trains have got something different about them that just holds me in awe. The sight and sounds and even the smells are hypnotic. No one today says “ Get in the car kids the 4 o’clock is coming in “!
I took a picture of this exact train on the turnstile at the Pomona fairgrounds before they carried at across the country for restoration. This is awesome
Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 is doing the same trip that Southern Pacific Cab Forward 4274 did back on November 30th 1957.
The Last Cab Forward over Donner Pass! Only now it’s the First Big Boy over Donner Pass!
Magnificent video thanks so much greetings from UK
Stack hoods, closed then opened on video! Excellent!
What are they?
@@Deadbuck73 They're Stack hoods. As you can see them on 4014's smokestack. They're for deflecting the smoke when Big Boys (and Challengers too) go through tunnels including Hermosa tunnel used by the Engineer. Very rare to catch those things when 4014 goes through tunnels.
@@davidstrawn9272 thank you. I saw them drop down as he came out. That’s pretty cool. The ingenuity of the time was amazing!
@@Deadbuck73 Well, if you encounter one of the tunnels while pacing 4014, you'll watch the hoods closed then open.
@@Deadbuck73 They're doors over the smokestack--invisible once retracted--to keep smoke down in tunnels. I saw them pop open when 4014 cleared the tunnel.
Nice! I wish I could've been there! Thanks for the great vid!
At 02:36 - moving at track speed limit of 30 mph coming around that bend, with just a little bit of help from that EMD SD70ACe 4,300 hp diesel locomotive, and then at the 03:42 time code mark, in a spectacular video capture of it's "raw brute 7,000 horespower", the UP4014 "Class 4000" (Big Boy class) is hauling the whole consist, including the 408,000 lb "dead weight" UP1983 diesel locomotive which is idling at "Notch 0", out of the shed. Very impressive video capturing, Aaron!
Big Boys never put out 7,000 HP. LOL. Fake News! They put out 6200 HP max with a clean boiler, 5800 HP in typical operational condition according to William Kratville, who literally "wrote the book" on UP Big Boys.
@@markantony3875 - Kratville's book, which I have, was written decades ago, before the "super restoration" of Class 4000 UP4014. UP4014 is not your typical "UP Class 4000" that Kratville wrote about = it is much more refined and "built up for power" than it, and it's brothers, were. Ed Dickens will answer, if asked what the hp rating is of UP4014; "7,000 horsepower @ 41 mph". Read the specs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy
@@DonVideoGuy007 Ok, if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Go ask Dickens for the official test report of that 7000 HP. He won't give it to you because it DOES NOT EXIST. Dickens is just making this up. Plus, I hope you understand that anyone one can put any information they want into Wikipedia. No proof needed. Dicken's story goes like this: Some "engineer" (he won't say who) "told" him, that "they" estimated the Big Boy now *magically, without any testing or proof* now puts out 1000 HP more than the really smart mechanical engineers at ALCO engineered it to. Ed Dickens has ZERO education in science and engineering. He is just a mouth piece for the UP Steam Program.
@@DonVideoGuy007 I will make a deal with you. You obtain an official report from the Union Pacific that show (1) the date of the 7000 HP test (2) the location of the test (3) What equipment was used to measure this "7000 HP @ 41 mph" (4) The boiler pressure (5) The Superheat temperature (6) The pounds of steam produced per hour by the boiler (7) the firing rate of the oil burner. Post it here, and maybe I might change my opinion. But, good luck finding that information because I know for a FACT it does not exist. 🤣🤣
@@DonVideoGuy007 Even better. Ask Ed "Tricky Dicky" Dickens to just publish his official test report of the "7000 HP @ 41 mph" with the criteria I mentioned online with the blessing of UP management of the UP Web site. That way, those of us that are actual mechanical engineers (unlike him) can study this data. For some reason, I don't think UP Management is going to agree to put something on their web site that does not exist...
Great job! Fantastic video!
Thank you for sharing this video!!
SP has cab forward locos for a reason. 😮😊
Great video! You get 5 stars for that one.
Full POWER ! Enjoy the ride.
Wonderful program. I wonder how the 4014 compares to the big cab forward on static display at the Sacramento railway museum. I'd like to see it restored to running condition and put to the test with 4014. It's huge.
Great video man! Looks like you know a lot of niche spots on Donner, every place I filmed it was crowded as shit, except for Emigrant Gap (video is on my channel)
Donner pass, Sierra Nevada Mountain with Steam engine...don't get any better than that !
3:40 Cough ... that's why SP ran cab forwards over Donner. We never dreamed we'd see a Big Boy run. Now let's dream we get to see an AC-12.
Nice share
Just my luck. The time the big boy rolls through Nevada Reno. My truck transmission decided to go out.😭 Thank God for CZcams.
love the big boy
Except for the "stop action" jerkiness, this is a great video.
Awesome, dude. Subscribed.
Gorgeous! 👍😎✊
Steam Power. Great, like me.🚂🤩👍
Beautiful video! How does the crew avoid asphyxiating in the snow shed?
So cool
Shame I couldn't get any videos of it. I was already in Tahoe and was trying to get some pictures on my way down, but decided to just leave when I heard it got stuck in Auburn. By the time I got to Roseville, it was already in Colfax, so no videos for me
So beautiful
Choo choo!
At 3:44 you see 4014 come out of the tunnel with the smoke hood in the closed position.
The at 3:46 then hood drops open to have full exhaust.
Pretty amazing...
Cinders in your eyes 😉
No cinders. The engine was converted to an oil-burner during her restoration. 😊
🤔 Got any video with Big-Boy on a revenew service as Challenger with a train of stackers???
PASSENGER CARS!!?? This is the first video where there have been passenger cars on the back. Who do I have to bribe to get a ride??
They hooked up the passenger cars when it stopped In Roseville. 😊
Tickets were sold a few weeks ago. I think the cheapest package started at $800 per person.
@@hapster85 Wow, that is cheap. My wife and I rode behind 4014 and 844 on the return trip from the Spike150 celebration in 2019. The trip was from Ogden UT to Evanston WY. Dome seats were $5000 and were sold out in a matter of minutes. We got coach seats and rode in the Columbine dome car. Those tickets were $3000 each. Of course that was 4014's maiden excursion and it was also a double header with 844 which probably will never happen again.
Great -. Thank you..
Easy on the hooter mate, what's with the extended whistling? Far more than necessary for a grade crossing.
I was able to see her outside of Sparks.
Hey, i was there!
As Biden Boy exited what I assume was a snow shed, something around the smoke stack was lowered to what looked like a normal Big Boy stack. Was that device to allow more smoke out it the locomotive once it cleared the shed?
Hey i was there!
Cool man
Vista Domes! Where did they pick those up?
i see they used the clamshell
I love steam engine are so cool
oh they switched out big boys frieght cars for passenger. very interesting.
3:44 What is that on 4014's funnel?
Hi Aaron would you be interested in adding to your video I captured some decent drone footage of it in Colfax and Truckee I don’t have enough footage to make a nice video like your but I think k with what I got and what you already have can make it even better!
Where did they pick up the rest of the passenger cars? And what it the car that looks a bit like a dome car, a couple cars ahead of the first dome car?
That is power car 2055. That is the first time I have seen that power car in the consist. In the past they have used car 2066 which serves the same function but looks a little different. Those cars supply electrical power for the passenger cars. Along with the electric generator they have a walk in freezer and refrigerator and a commissary storage room for the dining car along with quarters for the attendant.
Christ, he’s addicted to that horn…
great footage. Just wondering why the camera seems fixed. even on a tripod it can be turned ? seems following 4014 as it goes by would be better
Why the diesel pusher?
So they don't overstress the boiler on the Big Boy. Steam locomotives need frequent and expensive maintenance. The more they are used, the more expensive it becomes.
Y is there a diesel locomotive in the line up?
So they don't overstress the boiler on the Big Boy. Steam locomotives need frequent and expensive maintenance. The more they are used, the more expensive it becomes.
This man is deranged I feel...
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California hippies.