This ENTIRE Subaru Engine IS SCRAP! So Much Damage In A FORESTER? EJ253 RIP

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  • čas přidán 14. 04. 2023
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    This week's teardown may go down in history as one of the worst. This Is/Was a Subaru EJ253. Their standard 2.5L SOHC boxer 4 cylinder they put in everything from the mid 90's through early 2010's. These engines are pretty well known for head gasket seeping and overheating, as well as not tolerating low oil levels and sometimes, deleting a rod bearing here and there. This engine, however, has defied every possible scenario I could come up with. I just don't know how you do this.
    HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!? Please tell me. Please. I've been able to figure out the many failure modes of engines I've town down in the last 2+ years but this one? I can't. I just don't get it.
    Why do I do this? I own and run a full service auto salvage business in the Saint Louis area called Importapart. Part of our model includes buying blown and core engines, dismantling them and salvaging the good parts from them for resale. We do not rebuild engines, were merely supply parts to those that do.
    I really hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always, I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric
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  • @Pmpautogroup
    @Pmpautogroup Před rokem +1192

    Pete here. Y'all are welcome. My guess is that this was a NASA experiment for the new shuttle engine program. As we can see... It failed the first test.

    • @12345.......
      @12345....... Před rokem +38

      To the moon!!!!!! Hold your foot down!

    • @thomasfletcher760
      @thomasfletcher760 Před rokem +33

      Thanks Pete !

    • @johnmoore8599
      @johnmoore8599 Před rokem +37

      Unscheduled rapid disassembly I think they call it. The owner should be a crash test dummy for the USAF...

    • @ethanthomas1868
      @ethanthomas1868 Před rokem +24

      Thank you Pete, that was spectacular

    • @vater1760
      @vater1760 Před rokem +13

      Thanks for the core, Pete!

  • @POVwithRC
    @POVwithRC Před rokem +368

    Alright. The waterpump skit. Take your Oscar and get out.

    • @juangonzalez-pf9mg
      @juangonzalez-pf9mg Před rokem +25

      Brilliant editing 😂

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run Před rokem +23

      GREAT SKIT, He' getting better.

    • @warrentinsley5490
      @warrentinsley5490 Před rokem +27

      The ability to yard waterpumps thru time and space...achievement unlocked....😮

    • @sergeantpeppers8858
      @sergeantpeppers8858 Před rokem +25

      He can't receive his Oscar until he slaps the crap out of somebody.

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run Před rokem +3

      @@sergeantpeppers8858 NICE, LMFAO.

  • @rawdurand
    @rawdurand Před rokem +161

    This engine gives new meaning to "internal combustion"

    • @josephbidon4333
      @josephbidon4333 Před 11 měsíci +6

      "Imprezza"

    • @ericremoe8648
      @ericremoe8648 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ..Or rather "infernal combustion"?

    • @SurelyYewJest
      @SurelyYewJest Před 6 měsíci

      Ya I think the engineers had the wrong idea about internal combustion. You're not supposed to get everything so hot it simultaneously combusts!

    • @morphin8654
      @morphin8654 Před 9 dny

      ​@ 0:10 josephbidon4333

  • @kiubnzeogurmuerseger
    @kiubnzeogurmuerseger Před rokem +218

    I vote for towed in gear. To have parts light blue / green / grey, those things easily got to ~600°f+. Frankly it's amazing.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 Před rokem +26

      It's the only rational explanation for total destruction, there's no way they could have driven it to cause that.

    • @billchildress9756
      @billchildress9756 Před rokem

      That was a leaker that the Dipstick forgot to pull the dipstick!?!

    • @Motronic944
      @Motronic944 Před rokem +4

      I was thinking maybe money shift, but this makes a lot more sense.

    • @wiskatesnow
      @wiskatesnow Před 11 měsíci

      @@johnt.848 My dads ej253 through a rod through the block simply driving highway in Minneapolis. Maybe he ran it too low on oil?? I have no idea how that happened

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 Před 11 měsíci

      @@wiskatesnow I had a car do the same because I ignored a bearing knock.

  • @christopherweise438
    @christopherweise438 Před rokem +111

    Apparently they're called "boxer" engines cause the rods are trying to "punch" their way out of the block.

  • @dentalnovember
    @dentalnovember Před rokem +20

    Hey hey hey Mr. I read all comments, I check my oil every other time I buy gas. I check the oil every time I cut the grass. I look at the oil window every time I ride my motorcycle. I can’t afford new engines!

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin Před rokem +52

    Wow, a valve making it's way into the oil pan is extremely impressive. I literally made it's way to the opposite side of the journey. Quite a journey for a top end component.

  • @NFS_Challenger54
    @NFS_Challenger54 Před rokem +56

    Similar story regarding Subaru engines. When I first started out at my shop, we had a costumer come in with a Subaru Forester saying he needs an axle. As a matter of fact, he bought an axle from the nearest AutoZone. I'm on the opposite side of the building doing tires, while one of my coworkers jumps into the car to bring it into the shop. As he cranked the car over and drove it into the work bay, I can immediately tell what was wrong with the car. Literally all of us stopped what we were doing and went over to the car. My boss opens the hood and checks the dipstick, NO MOTOR OIL. It was completely bone dry. All of us were astonished the guy drove it to the shop in its condition. We went over to the costumer and told him what was actually wrong. His response, and I'll never forget it, he said "My friends told me I don't need oil". My boss and I were almost facepalming ourselves. Now remember, I was a rookie just starting out. I stopped him and said to him "Think of your engine as your heart and the oil is your blood. What would happen if there were no blood flowing through to your heart?" And he said, "You'll die." Obviously, everyone knows what my response is after that. We put 5 quarts of oil in the car, which was kind of over optimistic. Fortunately, the guy lived up the road from the shop, and my boss said he would be amazed if the car even made it to the driveway. UNFORTUNATELY, the engine literally ceased about halfway in between the shop and his house, and his house isn't even 45 seconds from the shop, by car. The engine was that far gone. We helped tow the car back up to his house and the rest is history. Moral of the story to those who own a Subaru, please check your engine oil level periodically.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 11 měsíci +4

      a blown engine happens to any brand of engine given enough time it will happen to any engine some blow sooner then Subaru's other later on

    • @timin770
      @timin770 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@raven4k998it will happen to all engines without oil. A Subaru with oil will go 300k. I've owned several. Check your oil EVERY TIME you get fuel, more often if you like. No matter what make you drive

    • @lassiterdominguez2879
      @lassiterdominguez2879 Před 3 měsíci

      Blah blah blah u have to check trash subasura oil more often cuz trash head gaskets leak. 😂😂😂. Stupid sube fans live in a bubble.😂

    • @swamp-yankee
      @swamp-yankee Před 2 měsíci

      Some years ago and the last time I got my oil changed at a shop I was driving a shit box ranger, and it was like 10 degrees out so I didn’t feel like doing it. Guy left the filter loose and it was gone when I got home being without oil at home and needing to go to work I drove that truck back to the shop and gave them a piece of my mind. I sold that truck to somebody from my town and I still see that very recognizable pile driving around

  • @edrannou3914
    @edrannou3914 Před rokem +319

    When you hear the rod knocking, you have to drive really fast so you get home before it lets go. Or at least be closer to save on the towing charge.

    • @timh6977
      @timh6977 Před rokem +22

      A mate years ago had that philosophy when a rod let go in his Holden six. Hold it flat to get closer to home! He got 16 more Kms out of it before lock up!!!

    • @VikingDudee
      @VikingDudee Před rokem +22

      My grandfather had a old 70s v8 Chrysler car and it suddenly had a really bad knock, He took the head off and the rod and piston and threw it back together and drove that thing for almost a year on 7 cylinders lol, Crazy old man.

    • @kenstein
      @kenstein Před rokem +10

      A friend of mine did this with a Subaru EJ222. It worked but he failed to take into account the fact that it was going to lock it up and leave at least 3 of 4 converter bolts inaccessible. He had to spend hours with a sawzall cutting the block away to get to them because he didn't have a way to drop the front subframe complete and separate them, as Subaru puts a goofy long extension on the converter neck to get past the front diff and you run out of room moving the engine forward before your converter runs out of dingus.

    • @mattyb7736
      @mattyb7736 Před rokem +3

      ​@@timh6977 we had a bet after a demolition derby with an old 186
      Cut the bottom radiator hose, removed the sump bung, $5 in the pot, winner takes all guess when it would stop with a brick on the gas,
      I won at 46 minutes.
      Solid old motors, got to love self limiting revs with hydraulic lifters hehehe

    • @earlscheib7754
      @earlscheib7754 Před rokem +2

      @@VikingDudee didn't happen if you take a connecting rod off the oil will pump out of that open journal leaving no oil pressure after it. And I'm assuming he was smart enough to leave the pushrods for the empty cylinder off.

  • @DjRay1967
    @DjRay1967 Před rokem +111

    Eric I love how you took the water pump chucking to a whole new level. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Zodliness
    @Zodliness Před rokem +26

    The fact that it spun long enough to literally smooth blend everything inside, achieved the kind of carnage one submits to the Guinness book of records.

  • @Firefrei
    @Firefrei Před rokem +106

    For those wondering, for the oil pump to start to turn blue if would have had to reach at least 500-550 degree Fahrenheit which is around 2 to 3 times normal operating temperature. This car has to have been flat towed in gear because it explains how the crankshaft would have be able to keep turning and destroy all the rods and lack of oil flow unless some wizard was magically able to yeet them all off simultaneously with racing with low oil or coolant

    • @stephenschenider4007
      @stephenschenider4007 Před rokem +3

      Wtf is yeet?

    • @Firefrei
      @Firefrei Před rokem

      @@stephenschenider4007 m.czcams.com/video/5W-J6iPyZmM/video.html

    • @petesmitt
      @petesmitt Před rokem +1

      @@stephenschenider4007 black slang for throw..

    • @stephenschenider4007
      @stephenschenider4007 Před rokem +3

      @@petesmitt I figured it was some mushroom top zoomer shit. Thanks.

    • @xxprouxx
      @xxprouxx Před rokem +23

      ​@@petesmitt wait hold up. Black? Sorry I'll have to disagree with that part. But yes it does mean throw.

  • @Spudchucker92
    @Spudchucker92 Před rokem +82

    My man literally just yeeted a water pump from Missouri all the way to Pennsylvania. I think that’s the most impressive thing here.
    EDIT: Thanks Pete

    • @brianl8983
      @brianl8983 Před rokem +6

      He’s got a great arm I guess

  • @shrek_428
    @shrek_428 Před rokem +62

    I saw a video once where they towed a car with a manual transmission in first gear to see how fast the engine would spin. It scattered parts everywhere. I think someone duplicated that with this engine.

    • @HighwayHunkie
      @HighwayHunkie Před rokem +3

      Or the driver wanted to kill it on purpose and always got it to run again after another lost con rod, after cooling down again.... until the last one went too.... unbelievable!

    • @SMOBY44
      @SMOBY44 Před rokem

      Just had to reply after seeing your MM rate. Hole snipe? A gang?

    • @shrek_428
      @shrek_428 Před rokem +1

      @@SMOBY44 Just an ol' knuckle dragger CGN-9 in the early 80's

  • @Kenneth_R
    @Kenneth_R Před 11 měsíci +11

    The timing system on this engine seems very well designed, simple and reliable. Love that there are none of those stupid plastic timing chain/belt tensioners. Robust metal tensioners with large bearings rule.

    • @ThatOddLife
      @ThatOddLife Před 5 měsíci

      They are absolutely simple. The unfortunate circumstance of my EJ25D (96 DOHC motor) is that I broke every single cover so now I'm running a naked timing belt. Aligning the cam sprockets was a breeze, and I didn't even use the special tool that is "required" for the job.

  • @sportclay1
    @sportclay1 Před rokem +68

    This autopsy was one of the best yet. Like everyone else how do you get an engine to destroy itself so completely? One would think it would have stopped long before every single moving part was totally destroyed. I will check the oil daily on my Forester from now on.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Před rokem +16

      Some have suggested the car might have been towed behind an RV in the wrong gear, 1st or maybe even reverse which would explain there was no debris in the oil pickup.

    • @robertslegers257
      @robertslegers257 Před rokem +1

      You will be the only one Eric said," Nobody checks their oil"

    • @sportclay1
      @sportclay1 Před rokem +3

      @@Conservator. An awful lot of heat generated to have happened while towing. Suppose its possible.? I believe more likely , someone didn't check oil and drove it with a heavy foot .

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Před rokem +8

      @@sportclay1
      I’m just an armchair ‘expert’ but my guess would be that an engine would have given up long before the damage to this extend could happen. When towed, the damage could continu much longer. Just my thoughts.

    • @Refertech101
      @Refertech101 Před rokem +1

      @@Conservator. think of a vehicle as a kinetic battery, if they where going fast enough when it let go, and just let it coast to a stop in gear, you'd easily drive the engine to pure and utter distruction

  • @thatnguy4618
    @thatnguy4618 Před rokem +226

    Towing it behind an RV in first gear would have "run" it long enough to do that!

    • @wesley00042
      @wesley00042 Před rokem +17

      That was my guess as well.

    • @wickedcabinboy
      @wickedcabinboy Před rokem +11

      @@wesley00042 - That's a pretty good guess. It would also explain why they didn't hear anything. Edit: others have suggested down shifting at at extremely high speed, that would explain the heat.

    • @Taroodin
      @Taroodin Před rokem +15

      Even better, towed with transmission in reverse.

    • @mann_idonotreadreplies
      @mann_idonotreadreplies Před rokem +5

      @@wickedcabinboy it doesnt have to be extremely high speed to misshift. you can misshift at 100 km/h if their dumb enough. just sayin

    • @jnelson4765
      @jnelson4765 Před rokem +12

      Yep, Either that or engine braking down Mount Washington...

  • @napoleontheclown
    @napoleontheclown Před rokem +22

    I fully suspect improper towing procedure was at play here. You don't need any good cylinders to spin the engine if the car is being moved under another vehicle's power while left in gear.

  • @darrenvictoriathornhill1170

    A massive thanks to Pete for this core. That is the most amazing destruction. All rods disconnected. Never seen that. Wow

  • @billj.widmann112
    @billj.widmann112 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Another vote for being towed in gear. FWIW, used to work with a couple of race teams. Turning small block Chevy 350s to 7,000. Have seen a number of "blow ups" but never anything remotely close to this. Amazing!

  • @randyhall2135
    @randyhall2135 Před rokem +85

    Two options. 1) ran with little or no oil for awhile. 2) If it was stick shift was it flat toward behind an RV and they left in gear . If so rpm could have exceeded 12 to 15 thousand rpm.

    • @junkman8742
      @junkman8742 Před rokem +2

      Or a tow truck?

    • @jthet2001
      @jthet2001 Před rokem +2

      Or it’s a Subaru flat 4🤣🤣

    • @noyb7920
      @noyb7920 Před rokem +3

      @Karl with a K Not really, I could change my Subaru's head gasket without removing the engine. Of course, it being necessary in the first place IS a problem, haha.

    • @lawrenceleible3670
      @lawrenceleible3670 Před rokem +2

      My guess would be option #2. Seen it a couple times on low mileage Jeep wranglers, owners messed up and left the transfer case engaged, one of them was found to be in 4-low so considerably more than even 12 or 15 thousand. Blows the whole bottom end of the engine all over the highway.

    • @daniellibich1376
      @daniellibich1376 Před rokem +1

      @@lawrenceleible3670 Like one case of then FCA and now Stellantis had approved many jeep products including the wrangler for flat towing behind a RV when one such owner of a jeep wrangler was accused of leaving the transfer case in 4L along with the manual in 1st as behind a RV at highway speeds has technicians conclude the engine was turning at least 50K RPM before the engine practically exploded when even pickup owners wonder what they did to explode the transfer case.

  • @carbontetlabs8606
    @carbontetlabs8606 Před rokem +112

    The effort expended on that one bolt to get the block all the way apart is what earned the like and comment today :)

  • @MDBenson
    @MDBenson Před rokem +17

    Thanks Pete!
    The big problem with flat-piston engines... as I see it... is... when a vertical piston engine blows the parts all fall to the bottom... in a flat engine they can't fall down very far because of the windage tray, and the opposed direction means the overwhelming majority of the force is sideways, so when they let go the parts fly *into each other*. So a high RPM failure basically means one thrown rod scatters bits into another rod... into another rod... you get the idea...
    It looks to me like a catastrophic oiling failure. Lost oil pressure, spun bearings, lots of flying pieces, kablamo.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It doesn't really matter because stuff is flying around and things in the process of breaking can't get out of each others way regardless of the orientation.

  • @RoninEclipse2G
    @RoninEclipse2G Před rokem +2

    Worked for a Subaru dealership for years. We would regularly see engines with holes under the alternator because the jackwagon owner hadn't changed the oil or even topped it off for 25k or more.

  • @dkmorris713
    @dkmorris713 Před rokem +135

    I just gave a round of applause to the person that blew up this motor. Spectacular.

    • @mann_idonotreadreplies
      @mann_idonotreadreplies Před rokem +4

      probably misshifted like a lot of "manual transmission experts". lol

    • @dkmorris713
      @dkmorris713 Před rokem +7

      @mann_idonotreadcomments I thought that myself before we learned that this motor came from a forester. The chances of it being a manual are pretty slim. I think a soup of neglect, lack of oil, and plenty of Revs that sunk this ship. Notice how there was ZERO debris in the oil pickup??

  • @supton1532
    @supton1532 Před rokem +106

    Subaru noticed that the competition was using either cylinder deactivation or engine start/stop. So they decided to multiply the two together for total deactivation.

  • @lordthicknipples-gt2oq
    @lordthicknipples-gt2oq Před 7 měsíci +4

    I've never seen such complete destruction, it just goes to show that if you believe in yourself you can accomplish anything. Whoever blew up that engine deserves an award.

  • @desdecardo
    @desdecardo Před rokem +8

    Worked on Subarus since the EA79 block. If one ran rough, and it wasn't obvious why, we'd try starting the engine on one cylinder to see which cylinder didn't start to find the bad one. There is no small amount of voodoo involved in making these engines run.

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 Před rokem +90

    That crankshaft is COOKED. Easily this is the max carnage I've ever seen in an engine that didn't blow completely apart.

    • @frankneher9192
      @frankneher9192 Před rokem +2

      I was missing the blanket for the crankshaft

    • @thezoomguys385
      @thezoomguys385 Před rokem +4

      That crankshaft had to get cherry red, or close to it in order to become rusted that way. It was really HOT!

    • @thomasfletcher760
      @thomasfletcher760 Před rokem +3

      Yep , definitely surpassed the V10 on carnage

    • @janosnagyj.9540
      @janosnagyj.9540 Před 10 měsíci

      BAKED. That's the right word. BAKED. 🥵

  • @TestECull
    @TestECull Před rokem +31

    33:52 Accurate recreation of how that engine sounded right before it ended up in your shop

    • @module79l28
      @module79l28 Před rokem +1

      Nice catch, I was about to post the same comment! 😄

  • @peterking2794
    @peterking2794 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I can barely begin to imagine how spectacular that must have sounded when it decided to shred itself in to oblivion! At least it had a decent timing belt! Great video, cheers!

  • @user-hp1hg4yb9o
    @user-hp1hg4yb9o Před 7 měsíci +2

    Friend of mine towed his 2009 Subaru Forester with manual trans behind his motorhome,He forgot and left it in gear after a hitch up,a few miles down the road the engine “Grenaded” I suspect this may be what happened to this one! l enjoy your teardowns very much

  • @anthonyruby5040
    @anthonyruby5040 Před rokem +77

    I love this channel and the endless supply of parts being thrown across the shop😂

    • @wickedcabinboy
      @wickedcabinboy Před rokem +4

      @Anthony Ruby - And perfectly good parts, too.

    • @coliander4180
      @coliander4180 Před rokem

      ​@@wickedcabinboy not perfectly good if they take up more space than they're worth.

    • @wickedcabinboy
      @wickedcabinboy Před rokem

      @@coliander4180 - Sorry, I guess the sarcasm didn't shine through like I thought it would.

  • @helenault7452
    @helenault7452 Před rokem +41

    I still miss the days when I used to do this kind of teardown once in a while. Being able to watch you do it, with commentary that I'd have used myself, brings back so many memories.

  • @biscuitninja
    @biscuitninja Před rokem +3

    It never ceases to amaze me how bad these engines destroy themselves. Even when used lightly, these engines are just so delicate and have a tendency to be under designed for safety. I love the flat 4 and flat 6 but wow!

  • @yal100
    @yal100 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Holy internal explosion! The problem has only gotten worse with extended oil change times. Subaru is one of the few manufacturers Ive seen that has actually reduced the oil change mileage on their latest engines, the FB engine family use to be 7500 mile changes, its now down to 6000 miles. I change mine every 5000 and check it as often as I can.

  • @christopherweise438
    @christopherweise438 Před rokem +34

    If we get an "I'm speechless" in the title.....ya know we're gonna get some carnage.
    Thanks Pete!

  • @speeddemon1092
    @speeddemon1092 Před rokem +19

    Loved the little skit with the water pump, and as the owner of a high mileage 02 subaru, I think I'm gonna do the oil change a little bit earlier.
    As for my theory on what caused this, it was towed while in gear. I remember seeing an article online years ago where a family towed their car (I think it was a cooper mini or somesuch smaller car) and left it in first, then got it up to highway speeds. The inside of the engine got turned to gravel and according to the comments the shaft RPM in that poor bastard of an engine would have been pushing well north of 20k RPM. Leaving it gear (probably first or second) would have sent the engine above the redline once the tow got up to speed and from there the friction and sheer forces involved would have done the rest. Wonder how brutalized the transmission and transfer case was on this vehicle.

    • @bcyr-CO
      @bcyr-CO Před 7 měsíci

      I do my ‘03 Outback at 2500mi. My ‘95 Legacy gets done maybe every 500mi or so (granted, I race it so it’s a change after each race).

  • @Yankee7000
    @Yankee7000 Před rokem +2

    While removing the oil pan:
    “I didn’t drain the oil…. This may not pan out for me….”
    Remarkable couple of puns….

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto70 Před rokem +2

    Way to go, Pete. That was truly impressive.
    The only scenarios I can think of to generate this level of destruction are:
    1. Improper towing.
    2. A backwards "upshift." (3rd-to-2nd, 4th-to-3rd or similar.)
    3. A gear-skipping downshift at the top of the rev range. (5th-to-2nd or 4th-to-1st.)
    High-RPM on-throttle shenanigans would not, I think, be able to wreak such complete annihilation. A piston or rod or valve or whatever would fail and the engine would quit, limiting the damage to however much could be done with just the engine's remaining inertia. _This_ engine was turned into a self-shredding machine, forcibly spun until ding nigh _everything_ inside it was pulverized.
    That's my opinion, anyway, although I'm no expert.

  • @Stylemaster911
    @Stylemaster911 Před rokem +8

    Perhaps it was towed in gear? That is crazy, because it seems like it kept running for a LONG time after it should not have..

  • @12345.......
    @12345....... Před rokem +60

    Everything about that engine is a work of art. The chared crank, the piston with 50 valve marks in it. Beautiful

    • @KnexJunkie
      @KnexJunkie Před rokem

      The Chef prepared it well. Danm that engine is R.I.P

  • @silentferret1049
    @silentferret1049 Před rokem +6

    As far as the color changing, I know for steel like high carbon steel 400F will take it to a nice straw/golden color. I think 600F around that temp for it to be blued and it would stay that color for a while until it starts to go red hot. Its when that stuff cools down when it turns a dull greyish from a shiny polished state it would have started. That cover being aluminum and it being fused means that the Aluminum got hot enough to get soft to fuse but not melt and aluminum (given alloys) starts to melt around 1200F. So between 600F to 1000F

    • @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
      @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 Před 9 měsíci

      I remember that beautiful straw colour when I was starting out in metalworking and I had two temporary chisel and you scrape away at the bare metal one piece of Emery cloth until the oxide turns a beautiful yellow colour and then you quench it

  • @edifyguy
    @edifyguy Před rokem +2

    The reason it didn't want to split the block was that the crank had welded itself to the halves. I can't see any way this happened other than it let go at high speed in a manual transmission vehicle and the driver didn't take it out of gear, and the momentum mulched the engine. That's impressive damage! Thanks for taking it ALL the way apart. Also, I love that you finally clarified to the viewing public what I already knew about the ongoing water pump joke.

  • @beyondmiddleagedman7240
    @beyondmiddleagedman7240 Před rokem +23

    Probably towed behind an RV and left in (a lower) gear. That would keep it turning through the carnage.
    I'd love to be able to give the two "good" pistons/rods to a couple guys at work who are Subaru fanatics. I'll just send them the link to this video. It will break their minds and hearts.

    • @Currawong
      @Currawong Před rokem

      I was thinking of getting one and leaving it in my Subaru the next time I take it in for service just to see their reaction.

  • @wjanis1
    @wjanis1 Před rokem +5

    ‘Knock - knock!’. Hi. Let me introduce myself. I’m Rod.

  • @509brown
    @509brown Před rokem +12

    Thanks Eric! Thanks Pete! That was stunning! Just shows that good things do come in small packages, and this tear down was very, very good! Eric the Tenacious!💪💪💪

  • @elGamiReal
    @elGamiReal Před rokem +1

    7:51 was a very hot moment in mechanic work

  • @stevenhardy5767
    @stevenhardy5767 Před rokem +7

    The water pump was hysterical. That had to be towed behind a pusher camper, I seen a jeep with the transmission , transfer case AND engine just scrap because they forgot to put it in neutral.

  • @DanBowkley
    @DanBowkley Před rokem +4

    I've got two theories: either someone had it running parked in their driveway and put a brick on the gas pedal before pulling the oil pan plug, or it got towed in gear for about half a million miles. There's no way in Hades it was actually being driven.
    This thing is past nuggets, we've got a bowl of Boxer Engine Crunch!

  • @phillipjohnson5868
    @phillipjohnson5868 Před 9 dny

    194K miles on my 2012 EJ235! Replaced the PCV valve and it no longer burns oil! Never had any major issue with this engine!

  • @bwalker4194
    @bwalker4194 Před rokem +2

    This was a fairly recently divorced woman driving on the expressway at night. Her ex-husband had been maintaining their vehicles and had probably been adding a quart of oil every thousand miles or so never mentioning it to her during the final days before the decree was signed. She had a lead foot and was probably cruising 85 or so in the rain. When the dash started to light up, she got scared but didn’t want to stop on the highway in the rain. When it started to get real tight and began slowing down, she pushed harder on the accelerator until it downshifted, then downshifted again. Now she’s really getting worried because it doesn’t sound right either but she’s down to 45 mph at 5500 rpms. She turns up the radio to get rid of the ugly noises. Slower, slower, but she can see the exit up ahead. One more little push on the pedal and one more downshift into first at 6000 rpms. RIP little boxer.

  • @brand-x7049
    @brand-x7049 Před rokem +16

    Another fun thing with these engines: all the chem-welded bolts in the block from dissimilar-metal reaction.
    18:30 Gotta dig the "Parts Master" oil filter... 🤣

    • @vman1011able
      @vman1011able Před rokem +1

      heyyy wix makes em they aint that bad

    • @kenstein
      @kenstein Před rokem

      It sure mastered those parts

    • @fubartotale3389
      @fubartotale3389 Před rokem +2

      @@vman1011able
      But it screams "give me the cheapest you got!"

  • @crasher88
    @crasher88 Před rokem +26

    I would like to have seen the crankshaft put on some v-blocks and rotated. I would be shocked in that crank wasn't twisted to some degree

  • @georgerocheleau
    @georgerocheleau Před rokem +2

    I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

  • @Adam-nv9zo
    @Adam-nv9zo Před rokem +5

    You can tell that engine is blown because of the way it is.

  • @papawheelie5835
    @papawheelie5835 Před rokem +10

    Someone hitting the rev limiter just after their 60,000 mile oil change interval. (And forgetting to add the clean oil). That was some professional level destruction! I had a crankshaft break at 70 mph in a FIAT once and the results were bad but not even close to this carnage. I'm impressed! Truly!

  • @srt8madman727
    @srt8madman727 Před rokem +23

    No matter how many times I see this style of engine I'm always amazed by its design. Strange the way it's designed.

    • @procrastinator1842
      @procrastinator1842 Před rokem +11

      Strange, but clever. Perfectly balanced so there are no counterweights on the crank, no balance shaft and very little ancillary stuff. So they end up being almost half the weight and half the height of a regular inline 4.

    • @srt8madman727
      @srt8madman727 Před rokem +2

      I didn't know any of that information. Thanks for letting me know.

    • @FreeHazelNuts
      @FreeHazelNuts Před rokem

      @@procrastinator1842what are the drawbacks then? Are there any?

    • @Xaluber
      @Xaluber Před rokem +8

      @Retired Bore Subaru mainly still uses boxer engines because their signature symmetrical AWD system requires a longitudinal layout with the entire engine sitting in front of the front axle. A normal inline 4 would be far too long.

    • @fubartotale3389
      @fubartotale3389 Před rokem +4

      @@srt8madman727
      Same basic design as Porsche, the only two Manufacturers that use it because its expensive to produce, those engine cases are a precision casting, not just a hunk of metal. Engine assembly is quite a bit more involved.

  • @georgjrgensen8507
    @georgjrgensen8507 Před 11 měsíci

    We had a 2 liter Impreza Plus automatic (atmospheric, 116 HP) from 2003 - 2012. When we bought it it was 6 years old and had 65000 km on it. When we sold it it had run 210000 km. Apart from the usual wear and tear we had absolutely no issues with it. The car was very comfortable and reasonably quiet. The only thing we had against it, was its thirst.
    We live in the Netherlands. Subaru is regarded here as one of the very durable brands, alongside Toyota, Honda and Mazda. Probably because our Subarus are all built in Japan.
    My son-in-law and a brother-in-law also drove Subarus, without any problems.
    We are aware of issues with them in the States. Especially the 2.5 liter is vulnarable, because a main oil pipe runs low under the block, and gives oil problems, lubricationwise as well as cooling.
    I suspect that the car this engine belonged to has been towed in gears..

  • @troyrosenbaugh9935
    @troyrosenbaugh9935 Před rokem +1

    Guy brought me a 5.7, wants rebuilt. Went to bolt it to my engine stand and the bell housing mounting area on back shattered under its own weight and it fell on the floor. Fkn hillarious, told him no chance in hell, get another from salvage yard that's solid and I'll build it, I got OHVs to fix.

  • @chriscawley5102
    @chriscawley5102 Před rokem +19

    I think you have a new carnage champion I can't imagine the noises coming from this before it finally quit.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u Před rokem +12

    Imagine what it sounded like when the entire long block came apart. This ran out of oil at high rpm, and it may well have been towing (or trying to tow) something at the time

    • @kenstein
      @kenstein Před rokem +9

      I bet it sounded like a wood chipper eating an entire recycling bin full of mason jars

    • @Me-zo8yc
      @Me-zo8yc Před rokem +2

      @@kenstein 😅🤣🤣🤣

  • @AlabasterRadiance
    @AlabasterRadiance Před 6 měsíci +2

    10:20 - I laughed so hard at this! This is what makes your channel so amazing. It's very informative on the tear downs, but not a dry moment. You really keep the viewer engaged from start to finish.

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 Před rokem +1

    My daughter in law's non turbo 2.5 with 85K miles decided to spit a ring with a broken ring land on the piston. Always maintained and never abused. I paid 2K for a brand new Subaru shortblock. With the headwork and other parts including a poisoned cat it cost me $4.5K to fix it.

  • @avrggamer69
    @avrggamer69 Před rokem +16

    The pan pun had me laughing way harder than I should have been but honestly I think the engine was already on its way out so they just went full send and some how Powered through all the noise and pain until it completely stopped

  • @IuriSantos
    @IuriSantos Před rokem +3

    The Water pump cameo was Fucking gold.

  • @brianf8621
    @brianf8621 Před 6 měsíci

    Great tear down. Thanks Pete.

  • @jcnikoley
    @jcnikoley Před rokem +4

    My ej253 has 200k, and I recently did valve cover gaskets. The valve train on mine looked brand new. That one has a lot of polymerized oil. It’s amazing what regular oil changes can do.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Před rokem +1

      I don’t dispute what you’re saying but this was not caused by not changing the oil enough and not even oil starvation imo.
      Some smarter guys than me have suggested the car might have been towed behind an RV in the wrong gear. (1st or reverse).

    • @jcnikoley
      @jcnikoley Před rokem

      @@Conservator. I agree that towing is what caused the damage, just commenting on the condition of the valve train.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Před rokem

      @@jcnikoley 👍

    • @Sovek86
      @Sovek86 Před rokem

      I just bought a 2012 focus with 89K, pull the oil cap and my cams also look brand new

  • @agentrock8495
    @agentrock8495 Před rokem +12

    Love the water pump bit. 🤓

  • @todds3388
    @todds3388 Před rokem +4

    100%, that thing was flat towed in gear.

    • @thor294
      @thor294 Před rokem

      Was thinking that. Trans had to be turning the engine

  • @jeffmcrae5336
    @jeffmcrae5336 Před rokem +1

    That was impressive. The only thing I can think of is that it was really low on oil and developed a knock. then revved past it's maximum RPM until things started flying apart. Keep up the good work.

  • @justrelaxing1501
    @justrelaxing1501 Před rokem +3

    Like I said before...I love the sound of a bolt cracking loose. Really liked the cylinder "readjustment" to free that bolt. I was wondering what kind of noise this made when it blew up? Did the driver just lay on the gas until it blew up, someone racing it, fleeing from a police chase? All the above? Be interesting to get the back story on this one.

  • @pgrcadventures1414
    @pgrcadventures1414 Před rokem +8

    This looks like it let go on the highway at the top of 5th gear and they let it coast all the way to a stop while in gear, absolutely spectacular amount of carnage.

  • @timtimtimmay4654
    @timtimtimmay4654 Před rokem +4

    Since we are going with baseball terms, it batted 1.000. It was knocking them down all over the place. It finished the season leaving nothing else on the field. On a side note, remember when they did "Cash for clunkers"? I wonder if someone has one of the engines they poured the "mixture" into that they would donate so we can see what it did to them.

    • @michaelworden9265
      @michaelworden9265 Před rokem

      Or in bowling, the Rocket Scientist bowled a 300 game (perfect score)

  • @zwhitehead403
    @zwhitehead403 Před 6 měsíci

    Was folded over laughing at "engine gravel", and then he said "must have been mulchin for a while" and I"m in tears 😂

  • @endospores
    @endospores Před rokem +2

    daaaaayummmmm i've always known subaru aluminum blocks could be sensitive but this is beyond destruction. However, my dad's 1998 legacy with the 2L aluminium boxer went over 300k km without issues. Good engines if you take care of them.

  • @benaldredge2671
    @benaldredge2671 Před rokem +20

    The water pump toss was awesome 😂

  • @patriel1
    @patriel1 Před rokem +6

    That engine had Autobot chow in the oil pan. Looks like this engine was going light speed when it blew. Thanks Pete for this mystery engine.

  • @MultiMightyQuinn
    @MultiMightyQuinn Před rokem +2

    The valve cover died as the engine lived.....recklessly! Thanks for another great teardown video!

  • @wwjoshdew
    @wwjoshdew Před rokem +1

    oh man. I love your reaction at 15:46 I was laughing my ass off. You were laughing your ass off. we were both laughing so hard at the same thing. Then your "complete salad kit" broke me. I love your content dude. It's the freaking best.
    also 18:46 the look you gave the camera when you realized what you said. much love dude!

  • @NJDEVILSMAN30
    @NJDEVILSMAN30 Před rokem +10

    My guess is that this Forester was a 5 speed manual and they money shifted it from 5th to 1st somehow while also running it low on oil. That's the only thing I can think of.

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run Před rokem +2

      Very Good guess or they did it on purpose on an engine that was making noise already. Put a brick on the gas pedal & STAND BACK, LOL. I did this in my late teen's on a Chrysler slant six that I couldn't GIVE AWAY.

    • @YouTubeAIbot
      @YouTubeAIbot Před rokem

      nah, i think this was a VERY ignorant owner who ran it out of oil and just kept on driving until one by one they all let go

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run Před rokem

      @@CZcamsAIbot Could be ?

    • @mann_idonotreadreplies
      @mann_idonotreadreplies Před rokem +1

      same lol

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Před rokem

      @@CZcamsAIbot And then complained to his buddies how bad Subaru engines are.

  • @brianl8983
    @brianl8983 Před rokem +15

    Thanks Pete.
    I like how the boxers sound when operating properly but I have virtually no experience with maintaining them

  • @mikepupillo2648
    @mikepupillo2648 Před rokem

    Thanks. Someone asked why I watch you tear down so many engines. I don't know. But I enjoy it. Thank you.

  • @kylequinn7760
    @kylequinn7760 Před rokem

    Best One Ever, I must admit, I'm addicted to Eric's teardowns. Love this one for sure. Thanks Pete!

  • @JxH
    @JxH Před rokem +5

    Video Thumbnail: "How do you blow up a Subaru engine?" Just drive it I think. 'Benny' on another CZcams channel said it was 47 out of 48 that he knew of. That ratio matches my coworkers, nearly 100% engine failure, and then the final one went making it 3/3. Something went wrong at the factory a few years ago...

    • @fubartotale3389
      @fubartotale3389 Před rokem

      Yeah YOU know what you're talking about Zippy.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 Před rokem

      It wasn't the factory... it's just that it's a terrible engine design. I honestly cannot understand why people like them.

  • @Thestargazer56
    @Thestargazer56 Před rokem +3

    Send it to the Flex-Seal® guy and let him prove how good his stuff is.

  • @johnskidmore1906
    @johnskidmore1906 Před rokem

    Knock sensor’s last thoughts, “AHHHHHHHHHHGH ALL THE KNOCKS!!”

  • @ThatOddLife
    @ThatOddLife Před 5 měsíci

    This makes me grateful for how easily my 1996 EJ25D came apart when I did head gaskets a month or two ago.

  • @djdonohue
    @djdonohue Před rokem +3

    I think that you may have been onto something with your theory. It was probably towing a trailer that was overweight for the car, traveling downhill, and either the Trans failed, or the driver "money Shifted" it, lost control of the vehicle and left it in gear for a hundred rotations cooking the oil pump and turning the block into an "Engine Ninja" pulverizing every part in it.

  • @marclobato9690
    @marclobato9690 Před rokem +3

    My guess. A water pump timing belt service and oil change. Were done. But it was not filled with oil. The oil filter looked old. But that may be from sitting outside for while. Car was driven at highway speed. Was probably manual 5 speed. And bang! Left it in gear and rode that thing until the end.

  • @coldstne1
    @coldstne1 Před rokem

    Thanks Pete and Eric for sharing!! One of the best ones!

  • @ADLNC73
    @ADLNC73 Před rokem

    that's gotta be my old engine. It just locked up one day going down the highway (checked oil religiously). it was worn out with 250K+ miles on it. no knocking, no overheating, just quit. a very hard quit.

  • @QuinnDickinson2610
    @QuinnDickinson2610 Před rokem +4

    I'm almost convinced this is my buddy's old motor! We blew it up in early 2019. It randomly started an extremely violent rodknock and one day I jump started it and every so slightly gave it throttle to keep it iding and it blew up. It was a beige Forester and we are fairly close to Mertztown, PA. If it's truly my buddy old motor I have videos of it running

    • @NG-VQ37VHR
      @NG-VQ37VHR Před rokem +2

      While it would be neat to hear from the owner of this engine, I have to believe this was seeing very high rpm when it let go. Unless you were bouncing it off the limiter to keep it from dying, it's probably a different motor unfortunately.

    • @QuinnDickinson2610
      @QuinnDickinson2610 Před rokem +1

      @@NG-VQ37VHR the damage matches the picture. Trust me the rod knock was insanely violent and my buddy drove it around for a little bit plus had to drive it home 30 mins after it started knocking. I revved it to like 3k cold and it nuked it.

  • @Paul070
    @Paul070 Před rokem +3

    The last time I seen carnage like that was in the late 90's on a EMD 20 cylinder that we got back from a connecting railroad!!

  • @stevemarch3432
    @stevemarch3432 Před rokem +2

    Wow! I have never seen anything so destroyed! Unbelievable. Best teardown yet. 👍

    • @billchildress9756
      @billchildress9756 Před rokem

      I have! It was not very funny though when it was found out that the guy who bilt the engine wound up with an extra set of rod bearings though. He was better lubed than the engine was.

  • @justsayin235
    @justsayin235 Před rokem +3

    Possibly got flat towed in gear to achieve TOTAL DESTRUCTION

  • @Large_Sarge
    @Large_Sarge Před rokem +3

    WRX owners who are hard on their engines either have lots of cash for rebuilds/new motors or get really good at doing the work themselves.

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith Před rokem +1

    Flat 4: Best engine design, NO balancer needed and used in millions of VW Beetles or Bugs.

  • @u121921
    @u121921 Před 4 měsíci

    I think firefrei got the right answer . Back in the late 70s when you had to pay to get rid of junks we teens tied to do this for fun . I had bought a 68 Mustang to convert to a GT . I tried to blow up the high mile 200 six by wiring the throttle wide open but it would just vapor lock from the heat - just didn't make enough power to damage itself . A friend had a 67 Camaro also with the base 6 with leaky head gasket . He just filled it every couple days with water until a heavy freeze in fall leading to small cracks in the block . He tried the same thing leading to a steamy over heated engine so he gave up but when he turned the key to shut down it just kept dieseling on even when he put the powerglide in gear . Still pinging on he tried driving it but that didn't stop it so he started driving it around the block . Soon the block was glowing like the exhaust manifold . Finally when everything under the hood and floor was smoking he was spraying the hose into the small snorkle on the air cleaner til hydro static lock stopped it .

  • @garytull7730
    @garytull7730 Před rokem +6

    You managed to get the last bit of mileage out of that water pump 🤣🤣