Mass Effect 2 - How to Get Full Paragon (EASILY MAX OUT PARAGON POINTS / No Glitches or Exploits)
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- In this video I'll show you how to max out your paragon meter in Mass Effect 2. No glitches, cheats or exploits.
0:00 Introduction
0:28 Import Mass Effect 1 Character
1:21 Max Out Class Power & Specialization for 100% Paragon Bonus
3:03 Be Consistently Paragon
3:53 How I Achieved Full Paragon
5:48 Conclusion
MASS EFFECT 2 - HOW TO SAVE EVERYONE DURING FINAL MISSION
• Mass Effect 2 - How to... - Hry
RUNDOWN OF MY QUEST CHOICES
I stuck to mostly paragon conversation options, paragon interrupts and quest decisions throughout the game, with an occasional renegade option thrown in.
Freedom's Progress - let Cerberus take Veetor (renegade)
Horizon and Collector Ship - paragon dialogue options
Dossier: Archangel (Garrus) - used cattle prod to take out engineer (renegade)
Dossier: The Professor (Mordin) - helped sick Batarian, saved trapped residents and Mordin’s assistant
Dossier: Tali - convinced Reegar to stay out of fight
Dossier: The Convict (Jack) - paragon dialogue
Dossier: The Warlord (Grunt) - paragon dialogue
Dossier: The Assassin (Thane) - saved factory workers
Dossier: The Justicar (Samara) - exposed Volus crimes to Asari detective, let Elnora walk away, prevented Pitne For from fighting
Dossier: The Master Thief (Kasumi) - paragon dialogue
Dossier: The Veteran (Zaeed) - paragon dialogue
Reaper IFF - sold Legion to Cerberus (renegade - don’t hate me, I did it for a future video)
Final Mission - destroyed Collector base (paragon)
LOYALTY MISSIONS AND SIDE QUESTS
Garrus Loyalty - stopped Garrus from Shooting Harkin, stopped Garrus from shooting Sedonis
Mordin Loyalty - destroyed Maelon’s data and did not stop Mordin from killing Maelon (renegade)
Tali Loyalty - hugged Tali, used paragon persuasion checks to get Tali pardoned
Miranda Loyalty - stopped Miranda from shooting Niket, encouraged Miranda to talk to her sister
Jack Loyalty - stopped Jack from killing Aresh, let Jack talk about her experiences
Samara Loyalty - hugged grieving mother, avoided renegade options to attract Morinth and in dialogue, sided with Samara
Zaeed Loyalty - persuaded Zaeed to save the factory workers and let Vido escape
Jacob Loyalty - had Jacob let his father commit suicide
Grunt Loyalty - stuck to paragon dialogue options, headbutted Krogan (renegade) because it’s too funny
Thane Loyalty - avoided all renegade options in Elias interrogation, invoked spectre status to convince him to give info on Kolyat, paragon interrupt to stop Kolyat from executing Talid
Kasumi Loyalty - let Kasumi keep Keiji’s greybox
I only did a handful of side quests and none of the DLC:
Omega - Aria’s patriarch mission - used paragon dialogues to convince him to stand up for himself
Omega - Batarian bartender - confronted him with paragon dialogue options
Illium - Gianna Parisini - helped her expose Asari merchant selling schematics illegally
Illium - Returned locket to grieving Asari widow
Illium - Convinced Synthetic Insights rep to hire Quarian slave (paragon check)
Illium - returned family data to Salarian
Citadel - resolved conflict between Volus and Quarian, used paragon interrupt to chastise the Volus and C-Sec rep
Citadel - told Krogan there are no fish in the presidum
I wanted to ask why did you destroyed Maelon's Research Data. But I found a video recently about the concequences of that action. And that is not healthy. :D I'm just glad that I did Full Paragon run. Well...with my Male Shepard, I gave the Collector Base to Cerberus...
@@KritoSkywaker Mainly just because I kept it in a separate playthrough and wanted to see what would happen if I destroyed it.
@@BigDanGaming
I see your point. Just that Wrex will be more suspicious about you. That is the only concequences.
In Dossier: The Assassin I'm still going push the one Eclipse soldier out the window. And never turn down the opportunity to headbutt a Krogan.
But I like pushing the guy out the window in thanes recruitment quest.
I do that and also stab Cathka in Garrus' recruitment mission. Still have plenty of paragon for all the speech checks.
You can do that. As long as you don’t pick mostly renegade choices and interrupts.
TLDR: How to max paragon? Play as paragon
In the game "Paragon"
That’s basically the way XD
Technically, it's TL;DW, since this is a video.
By Talos, this can't be happening
congrats, the furry can understand basic logic
if you wanna do this in me1 really easy, go to the planet with the small monkeys and geth in caves(cant remember exact location), there is one monkey with an examine prompt that gives some amount of paragon when you click on it, but they messed up and you can interreact with it forever. 1 minute petting the monkey gets you full paragon.
Same on Noveria with the Turian that can blame Anolays. You can earn 25 Points in Paragon or Renegade when you talk offen to him and convince him to blackmail Anolays.
My man, you gotta get a pop filter for your mic. Only my gf is allowed to breathe in my ear like that.
Otherwise, good video.
Hahahaha, I'll see what I can do
hey, tuning in since I picked up the legendary edition, I really enjoy your videos man! I forgot how much I love these games, the worldbuilding is phenomenal!
I have been watching your videos ahead of the HD remaster and dude, you kick ass :D
I recruited everyone (except legion) and leave all loyalty missions the last thing to do before recruiting legion. And as you said do as many side missions as you can. Leave jacks loyalty mission the last thing before going to recruit legion as it does a loyalty challenge the same as tali and legion. By the time you do this and then do jack last you don't even have to worry about combat mastery being shock trooper or commando. You'll be maxed by then and recruit legion and do his loyalty immediately after getting him. Then you go do the suicide mission. You can do the dlcs as well since overlord chronologically takes place before the suicide mission.
I got my paragon bar nearly full before going to the reaper to get the iff, I think it has to do with the order I took to complete the game.
Edit: Also, Garrus loyalty mission is really good for your paragon score, no speech checks, just talk to Sidonis, you won't risk Garrus loyalty by doing so.
if you played mass effect 1 and you import a character to ME2, you get a big boost in both paths
I forgot how awesome that Dragon Age Armor is.
I love Dragon Age and that armor! In my head, I think that Shepard went a bit nanners after the events of the prologue, so he basically ran out of effs and is just going to run around in medieval looking armor. In the Legendary Edition, it can be purchased on Omega if anyone is looking for it.
You know you could have maxed paragon and renegade in ME1 right? Spend about 30 minutes talking to giana's inside source on noveria. Don't even need to save. Just stand there and run the convo on repeat. Memorize the key strokes to skip through it and pick rene or para at the end. Max both in very little time. Not a glitch. Just repeating convos. Do it by accident enough in other games.
I just used the monkey glitch in ME1 lol. Took like 5 seconds to get max paragon
@@theunderdog9353 whats that?
I always do 2 playthroughs to secure myself the max bonus
Wait I’m confused so if you start a new game you can max out paragon will this carry over to my other save files if I do because I need to regain jacks loyalty and I’m at the bottom of level 4 in paragon?
@@OPT_DK Nah The 1st game is the default Paragon/Renagade. Complete the game first after gaining lots of rep and paragon and renegade point and use that save on your 2nd playthrough and beyond. All your stats comes with you if you fail but your comrades stats resets because they need their Loyalty Mission done first.
Then again, it's been a while I haven't played Mass Effect 2 so sorry if I can be errored out.
It is really easy to gain Paragon points in ME1 and ME3, but in ME2 I finished the game with just about 60% of Paragon meter. I could not justify Tali because of that. Thanks for the guide, hopefully will do better next time.
"I could not justify Tali"
Rally the crowd is best option anyway
Ima have to disagree HARD on that ME3 statement. I did 15 renegade actions top and had 30%. Whilst everything else i did only BARELY got me to the R in reputation
I distinctly remember me2 being the worst of the 3 on Speech Checks, so thanks for the refresh before LE releases.
I still do faintly remember a glitch in ME1 (That i dont think was ever fixed) that could give you infinite Para/Rene points.
Probably fixing it for LE, but it was cool being able to access both alignment missions.
If you are referring to the exploit on Noveria, they did not fix that as of yet.
@@caseypearce9078 what exploit?
@@joshhaney9769 the one involving Lorik Qui'in. Detailed here (among other places)
www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-05-18-mass-effect-legendary-edition-hasnt-fixed-this-infinite-paragon-renegade-point-glitch
Ran through ME1 not long ago and it was still there.
@joshhaney9769 1 yr late. but on Noveria, when you talk to Lorik Quiin after getting the evidence and talking to Parasini, there is a conversation in which you can convince him to testify against Anoleis that required 6 charm and 5 Intimidate points, and gives you 25 Paragon and 24 Renegade points.
The glitch is that until you talk to Parasini and tell her about Lorik testifying, you can retrigger the Speech Check by doing these simple steps talking to Lorik -> Matriarch Benezia -> Other Topics -> Testify against Anoleis -> Speech Check. And you can do it enough times to get both a full paragon and full renegade bar on the same playthrough(although if you want to be renegade shep in ME2, don't max out your Paragon bar)
And yes, the glitch is still there.
Probing Uranus always gets me 😂
That’s what she said
I’ve never gone full paragon, ever! I’d be missing out on some of my favorite moments in the game if I did. 🤣
Like headbutting the Krogan!
@@lwk.the_father exactly my point 👍
I mostly do full paragon runs but I usually have my paragon bar filled by the halfway point then I start doing renegade stuff and even earlier I would stab that aircraft engineer in Garrus mission, headbutt the krogan and punch that guy in thane's loyalty missionn ust to name a few
I imported my ME1 character, abused that convo glitch at the very start of the game for like 10 minutes, did some side quests and put all my points into Biotic Mastery. I'm already 2/3 of the way to full paragon and I'm only lvl 6. Gives me the freedom to actually make the choices I wanna make and not screw myself over at the endgame. Already played the game to death back in the day do I don't care about abusing glitches haha
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I'm so Paragon right now that I could make the Reapers go back to Dark space. 😅🤣
Thank you, you are my go to for mass effect anything
Its totally safe to the vast majority of the renegade interrupts unless there's a Paragon Interrupt opposite. To be fair I upload a Maxed level Character from ME1 with full Paragon and some bars of Renegade.
Ive been playing mass effect 2 as a paragon and previously did the grunt loyalty quest where you go to tuchanka and help grunt thru the rite of passage. after the passage you have a convo with the krogan who wants to use grunt for his power. I did the usual good boy checks and gave grunt the choice to either join up with them or not (which was supposed to be the best option) but I ended up getting 15 renegade points and 18 paragon points. Not sure if I did something wrong or if the outcome doesn't matter and you'll get renegade points no matter what option you choose.
I achieved a full paragon roughly by the 2 thirds of the game, without this bonus from leveling up. I didn't even do anything special, just stick to one choice type every time and try to do as many side quests as possible. And yes, I even left all the dlc for the end game apart from Zaid and Kasumi. So getting a full paragon is very easy in this in my experience
It is definitely possible to max out Paragon/Renegade without the 100% rep bonus cause the other is still a 70% bonus. It just makes the other points matter more like the full transfer bonus.
"Probing Uranus."
I'm suddenly back in junior high laughing my butt off. 😆
Thanks, Nice video
Really want to get Miranda back to loyal and been worrying if I can get it done now. Played through once and failed to keep everyone at the end, so I’m trying again and trying to do the insanity play through. Thought I was high enough for the Jack speech check but I wasn’t.
This video has given me hope that I have a chance.
I love the dragon age armour!
Thanks you just saved Jack for me
why are there so many instances where only Neutral and Renegade speech options are available?! How can I build up Paragon points if the only options are Neutral or Renegade???
I always used the death mask too. I think it provided like a 10% bonus? It’s small but it helps
Going be using this when I play mass effect remastered for first time . Enjoyed Andromeda
Haven’t seen this yet but I can already tell new people that it’s actually pretty easy getting a maxed out paragon meter compared to maxing out the renegade meter 😂
OR, I could use the Lorik Qui'in conversation on Noveria to max out both Paragon and Renegade in ME1. Then after importing to ME2, I use the Jacob and Wilson exploit to get max Paragon and Renegade.
Question.
It'd said that a maximum of 190 paragon points can be carried over from the previous game. What percentage of the paragon bar is that? The bar is divided into 5 segments. I only had the fist segment filled from my import that had max paragon. Is that normal?
Can the information in this guide be applied if you want a maxed-out Renegade meter? If so, you should point that out.
It's rather easy if you just choose the class power for 100% bonus points early on. In my current play through I'm at level 22 and about 60-70% in the game and maxed out my paragon bar while also getting 45% on my renegade bar without any exploits. I just like to play a mostly paragon shepherd but love doing renegade choices every now and then.
I guess the trick is to NOT select the middle option of the dialoge wheel and select the top or bottom as much as possible.
When I last played which was before my 360 broke in 2014 I think. I actually was 99% paragon minus shooting Udina and stabbing Kai Leng. I also never attacked the report because she’s a very helpful war asset.
Ohhh, I recently start to play ME2, and I punch the reporter...
@@miguelfonseca2341 she gives like I think 250-300 points boost to different war assets depending on your answer during the interviews in 3. She can give the geth, Krogan clans, and a few others. Unfortunately you can’t punch her even once to get the boost.
Is there going to be a renegade vid for this I’m curious
Man I wish I knew this sooner
Taking the Pre-Service History of SPACER / WAR HERO in mass effect 1 also helps cap out as well.
Hilarious how I ended up picking that for my renegade character
@@ceoofcomedy3009 for Renegades ut is better to chose the character history born on earth and to take Background with the Batarian attacks in the Skyllian sector.
Thank you so much @Big Dan Gaming you helped me btw I subscribed
Can you you do a paragon guide for mass effect 3
There are so many paragon/renegade options in me2 I maxed out paragon and I got to the last bar of renegade, I couldve maxed out both but I wanted certain paragon options for me3
I'm playing me legendary edition and I had nowhere near as many paragon bars that needed to be filled to get max paragon as you did? Did I do something wrong?
Can you do main missions first then do the side missions in mass effect legendary
Do you hav a guide for Renegade? I always play Renegade
Is it good to play a mostly paragon shepherd, but mix in with some paragon options for the most war assets by Mass Effect three? For example, I killed Wrex in ME1, and sabotaged the genophage cure in ME3, killing Mordin, but I let Eve survive. Making all those renegade choices, could I still max out paragon?
you still can, but holy hell what a choice you made.
@@ariezon :D Mean nice Sheperd
How do you play vanguard and not do heavy charge?
The only Renegade interrupts I do are killing the Batarian guy, shooting the fuel line to shut the loud-mouthed Weyrloc krogan up, and killing Elnora. Other than that I'm all Paragon. Haven't failed a single check.
About speech checks, im curious about them, does it count as to how many bars you complete them in or just how much you have? Just out of curiosity
Indeed it does. ^_^ And that is why important to maintain only ONE allignment.
@@KritoSkywaker just finished both me1 and me2, and surprisingly enough i could actually be myself. My shepard did what he had to do to save everyone even if it meant sacrificing lives but even when he did that i wanst going to give anything to cerberus. (Too suspicious for my liking specially after me1) when completing the second game with all dlc almost at the end of the game when i had almost all bars of paragon i couldnt do the paragon check. It was fine by me cuz with jack and miranda fighting i would have been renegade anyway but i couldnt be paragon then even if i wanted to
@@mega9538
Oh I see. For Jack and Miranda, you must have FULL Paragon points. If you redo Mass Effect 2, then I recommend you to leave Jack's Loyalty mission as last mission to complete before you go and get the Reaper IFF. Also...get the Passive Ability, what gives me 100% Bonus to your Paragon points.
@@KritoSkywaker oh nice, thanks. Im prob gonna replay it when i get the remastered legendary edition. Although i wont buy that for a long time. If i replay me1 im just gonna bore myself to death. Played it to the point of exhaustion. Also i tried for this play through to do the missions as i go. If a team needs help i help them, thats what i'd do in that situation.
@@mega9538
You know...when I got introduced to Mass Effect, I only played ME2. But had the advantage as I downloaded an save file. :)
What armor are u wearing its dope
I don't think you gain Paragon points for NOT selecting renegade interrupts (unless said interrupt fundamentally changes how you finish a mission), so I don't think there's any strong reason to not do them. In a lot of cases they do make your life easier.
I just started the game and landed on the citadel. I'm noticing my paragon meter is not growing after getting points. Is this normal?
the 1 thing that confused me about this was whether or not it was a 1 time only once u activate it increase or if it gave a bonus every time u earn paragon or renegade points from then on when u get each upgrade. with that in mind i wasn't sure if i should rush 2 max it out, wait 2 do it later, or somewhere in the middle
oh u don't have 2 avoid all renegade interrupts because this isn't KotOR where it's 1 meter so renegade points cancel out paragon so some renegade interrupts won't change the matter as there was no option 2 get paragon in them so feel free 2; sabatage the gunship/shoot the mech u see in the sniper scope in the archangle mission, interrupt Hawk's "i knew u were here 2 steal shit" speech, or pushing the eclipse merc out of the window in Thane's mission 4 fun lol there may b a couple more like this but those just came 2 mind
the annoying part is making sure u don't miss any paragon interrupts
as someone with shitty sight in my left eye that part wasn't easy on my first coupe playthroughs but u can save often and redo a conversation skipping it as fast as u can since u already heard it and reloaded because if it won't let u skip a line it's because an interrupt is coming so check which 1 u r getting or spam the trigger u want and if it's the other 1 nothing will happen at least that works 4 console but i imagine 4 pc it's jsut keep your mouse on that corner of the screen
Yeah, I wasn't sure how it worked on my first playthrough of ME2 either. I kept thinking, am I acquiring paragon points but then expending them when I choose a charm (blue) option? and now I have to replenish them?
Thanks.
Honestly once you understand how the quests work you can basically do whatever you want. My last playthrough I had the renegade score maxed and the paragon one a little more than half. Passed all speach checks no problem. Same for mass effect 1. Just mess with the order you do the quests if you know where you can do what decisions with how much points. And in mass effect 3 just turn of your brain. If you fail a speach check in mass effect 3 you are doing something seriously wrong.
Well....time to restart my game for the 3rd time...i should watch his stuff before i start the last game
how big of a problem is it that i choose commando instead of shock trooper?
Can we play new+ again and again to level up both paragon and renegade and transfer them to massaffect 2 and 3
I’m using your knowledge for evil. Renegade coming closer to max every day. 😈
If you go full paragon without using renegade interrupts then what happens when kai leng tries to stab you and you DON'T do the interrupt?
1: You'll still avoid being killed by him.
2: The alignment system works differently in ME3 (from what I remember).
3. This guide is just for Mass Effect 2.
My paragon has never been high enough to win Jack’s loyalty back, even with an import from ME1
Which armour r u using
I don't know if it's because of the Legendary Edition. But when I imported my ME1 Character with 100% paragon to ME2, i had 0% of Paragon
How to max out paragon: just don't be an ass and don't shoot or punch people off combat. The End.
I managed to get full Paragon in Mass Effect 1 so it not that hard if you have a guide but in Mass Effect 2 it a challenge as
How do I get element zero
Please do a renegade one please i need renegade stats
Ok now how do you change to a diffrent specialist in the middle of your game (please I need help)
Can you do that? I didn't think you could. (I hear you can on a PC though)
What about mass effect 3? The reputation system has me a little confused
The Reputation meter fills up as you do things, regardless of whether you choose Paragon and Renegade meters. In some situations, you won't have dialogue options because your Reputation isn't high enough. Check out the Mass Effect wiki at masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Reputation. That wiki is a great source of information.
Interesting
Probing Uranus 😂😂 never gets old
Lol be a great upstanding galactic commander and care for all life for it is precious no matter the form it takes
Nah just like Ahsoka, I’m neither Jedi or sith... the grey paragon/ renegade Shepard
Same, this is why I hate the paragon/renegade system in ME1 and 2. If you're not heavily leaning towards one or the other you get locked out of dialogue options.
@@emmanuel4989 yeah for that reason id be more of a nice grey jedi tbh
@@Lord_IckisDickus This is why every time I play ME1 and ME2 I always exploit the paragon/renegade glitch, so I can role-play the way I want to without fear of being penalised.
> Only get Para/Rene bonus for one of two specs
Ah, classic ME gameplay, classic castrated console gameplay. "You can enjoy your game any way you like, as long as it's our way."
Does every class have a thing to get a 100% paragon/renegade boost or just vanguard?
As much as I love ME2, and even agree that resolving disputes between crewmembers should be done via persuasion checks, I hate the way they went about Paragon/Renegade scores. Basically, if you want to play a more morally ambiguous character - or even one that just happens to lean a little on one side or the other and NOT get worked over, you're screwed. Really hurts the player agency in the game, IMO.
Me: "Damn, why cant I get my paragon higher than half way?!"
Big Dan: "Max out you're associated class power to get a 100% bonus to paragon and renegade!"
Me with 1 point in my class power: "SON OF A... "
The speech check conversation with Miranda and Jack requires 5 bars however if you have all of the conversations that can happen before the Loyalty Mission pops up then it removes a bar for each girl. So if you're aggressive when it comes to talking them you can make peace with just three bars
Cool I've always been full paragon or close there too. So I didn't know you could have problems with this convo.
Full paragon without playing ME1 and DLC's
poggers
On my second playthrough in the same week, trying to have everyone survive the last mission before I start ME3. But the fucking fight with Miranda and Jack is so stupid, I dunno how to keep both of them loyal.
With all dlc added plus your Mass Effect 1 playthrough. You will have more than enough to keep them loyal. Just make sure you commit to one side. If going Paragon. Stay Paragon. Vice versa. Make sure to have either choice up to 75 percent before getting to that part. After I did everything. My status for Paragon was up to 100 percent before I Mirandas side quest.
What fight? They just tease each other, but they can easily still both be loyal.
@@lofivibes3640 just done new game plus and did the Samara glitch to get 100% paragon, deescalated the fight between Jack and Maranda, and Tali and Legion, everyone's loyal and I have all the ship upgrades and just banged Miranda. Literally about to do the suicide mission now, no one is dying this time. Then onto ME3.
@@georgianab6890 If you choose to side with one or the other during their argument after you finish Miranda's loyalty mission then they will lose loyalty. Unless you have enough paragon or renegade.
@@jamiedude1050 aah! I've always had enough paragon by that time and never saw a reason to choose any of the other options so I had no idea. :)
Is there something similar for ME1 and ME3 where we can max out paragon/renegade
In me1 there's a glitch with a monkey in one of the side missions where you can get full paragon early in the game
For ME1, on Noveria, you can exploit the "testify" option when speaking with Lorik (you have to agree to get him to testify first 😉). One the conversation is over, talk to him again, ask about the matriarch and then select "another topic" and get him to testify again. Using this allows you to maximize both paragon and renegade to get both of the optional reputation missions. This also still works on the LE.
I’m literally almost at full paragon
Never go full Paragon
@@christopherfleetwood5252 lol
Probing Uranus
Instill can't get enough points to get to keep Jack and Miranda alive. One of them always dies
"never go full paragon" XD
Is it me or does anyone else just use a defsult Shepard and soldier. Customisation just feels like an extra gimmick
1 of the flaws in the games is the whole paragon renegade you cant do a balance of both really
Max out renegade when?
Just do the opposite of what he did, Import a Renegade Shepard from ME1, get the class specialization that improves both your renegade and paragon, pick from the bottom of the dialogue wheel, and avoid paragon interrupts.
#Renegadeforlife
Yeah but les weapon damage
Gonna need a PAragon walkthrough of Thane's quest then. Isn't it a bit more of a pain in the ass to do if you don't get the guy you are 'consulting' to talk faster unless you renegade his testicles to Grunt? :P
Just be nice and act like Optimus Prime in the entire gameplay.
I do this on accident, do people really need a guide??
I would like a guide to free Renegade points...
The Mass Effect Wiki is a great resource for everything and has a guide to morality points for all three games: masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Morality_Guide_(Mass_Effect_2).
Miranda was in the wrong, yet we need to earn full paragon to win her back 🙄
100% Paragon for life.
So, do a full on Aang/Steven Universe/Luz Noceda path. OK, got it.
Not much of a fan of Retrain. What a waste of good eezo for such almost trivial changes.
anyone here because of pissing off Jack?
gotta regain her loyalty again 😆
Miranda and her silent treatment BS if you told her to chill. I wish I could channel Harbinger and tell her: "You are no longer relevant" and "My attacks will tear you apart." Even better: Tell Jack to deal with her. And walk out. >:}
Btw, If the game allowed it I wouldn't give Cerberus the time of day, let alone David or Veetor. And thankfully, neither Kal'Reegar nor Mordin suffer at the hands of TIM.
I really, really, REALLY fucking hate how you have to go 100% Paragon or 100% Renegade in Mass Effect 2 to avoid screwing yourself over. Most of the important Paragon checks aren't that impressive either. Does Shepard really need such a high score just to be able to go "hurr durr, we're on a mission, maybe you can have this argument later?"? It just makes them look like a complete buffoon when the game forces you to pick a side in an idiotic argument simply because your Shepard was too stupid to suggest waiting until after the final mission.