BEST Steering Upgrade for the 1973 - 1987 Chevy K10 Squarebody Trucks (Borgeson Quick Ratio)
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2023
- This video details the install of the 12.7:1 Borgeson Quick Ratio Steering Gear in a '73 -'87 Chevy/GMC Truck.
Huge improvement in steering and driveability after this upgrade.
Part #: 800133
Link to the gear: www.borgeson.com/borgeson-str...
Link to purchase:
www.summitracing.com/parts/br...
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Outstanding video my friend. I am rebuilding a 78 Scottsdale and this is the info I needed after I rewelded the frame fixed all the issues from the old crappy gear. Thanks for the links and recommendations. MK
You're welcome, glad it was helpful! When we rebuilt the steering on our 85, there was some slop we couldn't get rid of. Even after going through all the tie rods, ball joints, etc. This gear reduced it significantly. Hope it works out for you!
Me and my 79 K10 are very happy we watched this video. Thanks and nice rig man.
Thanks for the feedback!
Just got an 86 K-10 and glad I ran across your video. Great info!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Researching on doing this my self, thanks so much for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Very good video. Congrats
Nice truck brother. Excellent video..
Planning to swap mine out this evening on my 84 K10. Great informative video. Interested in what seats you have in yours as well.
Thanks for the feedback! Check out my other video where I detail the seats. They are out of a 2010 super duty.
Moore Squarebody videos please! Subscribed
Definitely have some more in progress! Thanks for the subscription!
Great video....needed to see this work. I have the same new unit that I purchased for a frame up build of an 87 K/V 10. I wanted to see if you considered putting washers or shims between the unit and the frame where the unit is slightly pocketed at the bolt locations? The factory unit did not have these pockets but the Borgeson does as well as other manufacturers. Nice looking truck and thanks in advance!
Thanks for the feedback. I know exactly what you are referring to. Not completely sure what Borgeson's design consideration was for this, but I did not want to add any shims/washers. I felt like that could potentially alter the load impact area against the frame (more concentrated loads at a smaller surface area). Pretty much assuming Borgeson's design engineers did this for a reason.
Just my thoughts. I have put quite a few miles on the truck with this upgrade without issue. Hope it works for you!
@@midatlanticcustoms Thank you for the response. I some what assumed the same but the fit wasn't perfect and I wondered if it was necessary. Bolting it up this evening and moving on...Thanks again!
I put the Borgeson box in my 78 C20. It went up fairly easy. However I probably put the pitman arm on wrong as steering wheel is 45 degrees out. Worst yet my belt squeaks bad and its hard to steer. We have gone over everything and can't see the problem. Could I have a Bad Borgeson Box?
There are two gears, one of for a C10 the other is a k10, make sure you ordered the correct part #. Also, it's odd the steering wheel is off. Did you center the gear before installing? Was your steering wheel locked?
I haven't seen a bad borgeson box, but it's not impossible. I'd reach out to them and see if they have any input
Can this steering box be used with cross-over steering? Usually requires a 2WD steering box.
Borgeson makes a c10 version of this steering gear: www.borgeson.com/Borgeson-Street-and-Performance-Series-C-10-12.7-1-Ratio.html
How much lift are you running? I'm running an ORD custom leaf 4" lift and wanting to tackle steering. Everyone says go crossover, but I'm mostly on road. Do you ever wish you went crossover? Or is most of the slop eliminated with the new steering gear? Great video by the way.
I've debated going crossover, but I'm only running 2.5" of lift. Seems the benefits are limited for low lift trucks. The combination of all new suspension components, this steering gear and ORDs steering brace has drastically improved the steering on this truck. But, I'm always looking for additional ways to improve the trucks on road handling. Going through everything did take the majority of the slop out of the steering, but I do believe GMs original steering setup was a poor design that's tough to get perfect
@@midatlanticcustoms Yeah, I agree with tough to perfect. From everything I gather, even crossover will introduce different problems. In my head, the only solution would be a fully electric steering rack on diff, steer by wire. Probably years away from that being a thing since steer by wire is just starting on OEMs now. I think for my 4", I will try crossover steering. Many complain about bump steer with crossover, which is why I think you went the correct route for your lift. Some crossover guys add a track bar like a stock super duty. This limits travel and adds ride stiffness, but my springs are soft so hopefully not too much. The joys of trying to make old things drive like newer things.
Great video! Since you had it for a while now, how do you like it?
Thanks! I really like it, it took a huge amount of the slop out compared to the old steering gear on the truck.
I installed one on my 1974 chevy c10. but it tends to twist and bow the frame every turn i make. The other thing is that the steering box works at a very high temperature. will it be normal? Any comments that can help me? I have a chevy ls 5.3 (VORTEC) installed. With its respective steering pump.
If your frame is flexing, you need to identify where the flex is. These frames are known to crack behind the steering gear, sometimes they are tough to spot without close inspection. Many places make a weld-in reinforcement plate, if it is cracked. www.offroaddesign.com/weld-on-frame-repair-kit-for-73-91-gm-trucks.html
Thanks very much!!
Will this increase turn radius? I always have to stop and reverse to complete a tight turn.
The box itself won't increase turn radius, your steering geometry will not change.
@@midatlanticcustoms thank you for your response!
What steering shaft are you running?
Omnix-Ada 18016.05 for the early 90s wranglers
how long does job take total?
This took about 3-4 hours total