Tenergy 19 or Rakza Z which is a better backhand rubber?

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2022
  • In this video I will compare two completely different rubbers in terms of characteristics. But what they have in common is that players often decide to put them on the backhand. I will try to explain which one suits me better in which segment of the game and which one I have decided to use in the future.
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Komentáře • 81

  • @lcml
    @lcml Před rokem

    Very nice review. Keep the good work. Thanks from Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @Goran777777
    @Goran777777 Před 2 lety +1

    Bravo Dario! Super video, lijepo si sve objasnio. 🙂

  • @justchill99902
    @justchill99902 Před rokem

    Great review. Subscribed! Keep up the good work!

  • @cafephin2024
    @cafephin2024 Před rokem

    A good details review, thanks for the English subtitle.

  • @zflorjan
    @zflorjan Před rokem +3

    Super si pojasnio razliku i zainteresirao me za Rakzu, pogotovo zbog toga što oprašta ako pogriješiš u čitanju rotacije....konačno nešto i na hrvatskom! samo tako dalje

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +2

      Hvala Zdenko. Upravo je to i cilj. Uvijek ću objavljivati na hrvatskom s obzirom da skoro pa opće nema videa na tu temu na hrvatskom. A što se tiče kvalitete sadržaja, dajem sve od sebe :)

  • @ognjenkuharic9467
    @ognjenkuharic9467 Před 2 lety

    Really nice review, keep it up. Maybe you can compare Gewo Codexx to 09C

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +2

      I just ordered a Gewo Codexx EL PRO 52. It should be at my place in two weeks, so I'll play with it for a while and then do a review.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +1

      The comparison of Codexx with Rakza Z and Dignics 09c is finally published -> czcams.com/video/-8puFywe0hg/video.html

  • @TimSKramer
    @TimSKramer Před rokem +3

    Great video, Dario!
    I wonder: Have you tried the Rakza Z Extra Hard, yet? Would love to know how you think it compares to the Dignics 09c on FH.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Tim. I haven't tried RZ EH yet, but I plan to.

    • @ericd1084
      @ericd1084 Před rokem

      In my opinion Dignics 09C is much much better than Rakza Z Extra Hard. I've tried them both. 09C has more spin, better feel, and is easier to activate the sponge. It was easier for me to get big power out of 09C.

  • @mu8911
    @mu8911 Před rokem +2

    A comparison of Rakza Z and Sieger PK50 would be interesting.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for your suggestion. I have never played with any of the Nittaku rubbers so it would be interesting to try. By the way, if you haven't seen it, I published a new video 2 days ago comparing Rakza Z, Codexx 52 and Dignics 09c -> czcams.com/video/-8puFywe0hg/video.html

    • @mu8911
      @mu8911 Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd Yes, I've seen the other video. Really helpful! Well done, and keep it up!

    • @user-wl3ii3fo4y
      @user-wl3ii3fo4y Před 9 měsíci

      Pk50 vs Rakza Z vs Dignics 09c vs Xiom J&H H vs Tibhar Hybrid K3

  • @nguyenanhquynh7322
    @nguyenanhquynh7322 Před rokem +2

    thanks for English sub

  • @pedroabe7001
    @pedroabe7001 Před rokem

    I would like to see a comparison between tennergy 19 and 64

  • @jonyer1980
    @jonyer1980 Před 2 měsíci

    Afaik, Tenergy is no 48° by any means just 1-2° degree softer. Even though Yasaka is a right choice, you have to factor in durability, which is a concern on ESN and it wears off after several weeks. The way I see it, ESN isnt worthy at that price tag range, I rather stick to reliable Tenergy.

  • @Chicho-trremoto
    @Chicho-trremoto Před rokem

    Very good video Dario, I would like to ask you a question since I value your opinion, I usually use Raksha Z but it is sold out all over the world, I can't find it anywhere and I need a rubber, could you tell me if it is the same as the thibar k3 ? Can I replace it or are they very different... which one do you prefer? Regards

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +1

      Thank you. I've never tried K3, so I can't comment on it, but I plan to try K3 in the near future. As a replacement for Rakza Z, I can recommend Codexx EL Pro 52, you can watch my comparison of those rubbers in this video czcams.com/video/-8puFywe0hg/video.html . According to my information, Yasaka had problems in production, i.e. there was a lack of material and the Rakza Z was not produced for the last 9 months, but supposedly it should be available again for sale from next month.

    • @Chicho-trremoto
      @Chicho-trremoto Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd Okay, thank you very much for your answer. I look forward to your analysis of the K3. Hopefully the Yasaka thing is true and this coming month I can find it, the fact is that I have been waiting for it for months and nobody tells me when they are going to have it and the truth is my favorite right-hand rubber because it gives me a lot of sensation on the racket , they are 50 degrees of hardness, but they feel like 47 with a very Taki rubber and a high arc. I have liked it a lot since I tried it, so I was looking for a substitute that gave me very good sensations and a rubber with enough grip to replace it with if they didn't make it again. Regards my friend.

  • @nemanjajankovic3336
    @nemanjajankovic3336 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video! Why don't you use 09c on the backhand, because I assume you tried it since you use it on the forehand?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 2 lety

      Yes, I've been using the 09c as a FH rubber for over 2 years now and I'm very happy with it. Of course I tried to play with 09c on the BH. I can say that it is very good on BH as well, but it suits me much better on FH.
      As I change rubbers 3 or 4 times a year, the price of Dignics prevents me from having it on both sides of the racket :)
      Also, Rakza suits me even better on the BH than 09c because it's slower.

  • @tochi2
    @tochi2 Před rokem +1

    Both rubbers are totally different and it is very difficult to say to whom it could be used as a backhand rubber depending on the type of game of each one, the Rakza Z has a hardness of 51° and is an extremely tacky rubber and the Tenergy 19 has a hardness of 44° and not tacky at all Slightly softer than the Tenergy 05, I would recommend the Rakza Z for forehand and the Tenergy 19 for backhand but it all depends on the type of game of each person, there are players who do not hit from the backhand, they only pass it, control it and rush the ball, so I would say that for a medium advanced level the rubber of forehand can be of hardness that best suits you and for reverse a hardness that does not exceed 45 degrees

    • @phenthohn7303
      @phenthohn7303 Před rokem +2

      Exactly. Tenergy is easier to impart spin on the ball with, because of the relatively softer sponge. Both rubbers are spinny. It might be true that the Rakza Z is slightly spinnier (mainly because of the tacky topsheet), but the harder sponge makes it harder to create quality shots with that. These "Chinese-style" rubbers require a different technique than the European rubbers. As for Tenergy 19, it works great for both forehand and backhand for me. I'm planning to try Rakza Z out, but if find it not that cool, I'll just stick to the 19. Luck that I've found this video, because it compares just the two rubbers I'm interested in.

    • @alexandervarna8085
      @alexandervarna8085 Před rokem

      @@phenthohn7303 it won't be "cool" . As you said yourself it's more difficult vause it is not for the amateurs looking for the easier way. If you work hard it will reward

    • @phenthohn7303
      @phenthohn7303 Před rokem +1

      @@alexandervarna8085 Righft, but if you struggle with that for too much, that is only a waste of time. By cool I meant that you can easily adapt. Sometimes a rubber is just not for you.

  • @galiciajohnalexisc.6622
    @galiciajohnalexisc.6622 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Currently using H3 neo both sides and planning to used Rakza Z or Rakza 7 extra hard on my backhand, Do you have any suggestions(or alternatives in Xiom Brands)

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 3 měsíci

      From Xiom, the most similar would be Omega 7 Hyper, Omega 7 China Ying or Guang and Jekyll&Hyde H 52.5. I haven't tried any of those 4, so it's hard for me to recommend.
      You can watch the video where I compared three hybrid rubbers: czcams.com/video/-8puFywe0hg/video.html

  • @elitetaxis1976
    @elitetaxis1976 Před rokem

    Hi Dario, Im thinking of buying the Viscaria Fl blade with Tenergy 05 2.1 on FH and Tenergy 19 2.1 on BH. What set up would you recommend? My forehand is stronger than by back hand. I mainly use backhand to chop, block, push and serve.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      Hi. This is a great combination of rubbers and blade, but it's hard for me to recommend something specific without seeing you play.

    • @elitetaxis1976
      @elitetaxis1976 Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd what backhand rubber would you use for chop, serve and topspin?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      @@elitetaxis1976 there are a lot of rubbers that are great for that. if you have good technique and a slightly harder rubber is not a problem for you, then Dignics 09c is good for the above. it's great for me. if you want to create spin more easily and have a slightly better block, then Dignics 80 or Tenergy 19.

    • @elitetaxis1976
      @elitetaxis1976 Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd what thickness would you go for on Backhand for tenergy 19? Thankyou for all your help

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      @@elitetaxis1976 no problem. I always choose max thickness

  • @volodymyrzhuk7547
    @volodymyrzhuk7547 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you Dario. Could you test please a blade DHS Fan Bo B2X? Why? Because it is different from Batterfly, because it is cheap, 50 backs, because it has 9.5 score on Revspin site, because it has 1350hz sound, because it might be a good choice for the intermediate players 300+ raiting . And I've heard a lot of good reviews about it. Similar as Long 5, not the same but, innerforce ALC. What do you think?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for your suggestion. I will put it on my list of possible future reviews, but the list is quite long so I can't promise anything.

    • @volodymyrzhuk7547
      @volodymyrzhuk7547 Před 4 měsíci

      @DarioGrd Thank you Dario. If you check CZcams, where is no review for it there. There are 2 reviews only from russian guys and no one good on English. So, if you do it soon, you'll get a lot of reviews, I believe...

  • @alexandervarna8085
    @alexandervarna8085 Před rokem

    Hi Dario, how would you compare lifting the backspin with Z compared to Ten 05 for backhand?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +1

      Hi Alexander. I have more control with the Rakza Z than with the Tenergy 05. Especially in the short game. So on a short backspin ball (serve) it is easier to lift the ball over the net (flip). I also have more control when attacking long backspin balls.

    • @alexandervarna8085
      @alexandervarna8085 Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd thanks a lot. My son is 17, training since 9, he is playing a lot of BH. At the moment he is with Ten 05. The problem is when he tries to play short what is more and more now,, 05 is difficult to control especally in the sudden situation. As a result he is giving away too many easy balls. On the other hand , when he is prepared he flips and makes great top spins. What woulв be the change with Я,

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      @@alexandervarna8085 yes, I agree. To me, the T05 is also great away from the table, but it is too bouncy at the table. With all hybrid rubbers like Rakza Z you get more control.

  • @yaypingpong4275
    @yaypingpong4275 Před rokem

    Butterfly all day for backhands🏓

  • @zflorjan
    @zflorjan Před rokem

    Pozdrav Dario, zanima me kakva je Rakza Z na FH? Jesi probao igrati sa njom na FH? U slučaju da mi ne odgovara na BH da je probam na FH. Koju imaš ti na FH?
    Kako igram na FH sa DHS hurricane 8 dulje vrijeme u tom slučaju bi imao dvije ljepljive gume pa me brine jel to baš ok i što bi dobio u tom slučaju u toj kombinaciji.
    Zašto misliš da je to guma za BH ako možeš pojasniti.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      Pozdrav. Na FH igram s Dignics 09c koja je isto blago ljepljiva. Kao što sam spomenuo u video, Dignics 09c je manje ljepljiv od Rakze Z. No, po meni opće nije loša kombinacija da su na FH i BH ljepljive gume. Naravno ovisi o igraču što mu odgovara i kakvu tehniku ima, ali vrijedi probati. Rakza nije skupa ko Dignics recimo, pa se lako isproba. Probao sam igrati na FH s Rakzom Z, ali meni je malo prespora za FH i ima preveliki luk, što mi za FH nije baš najbolje. Ja bi na FH prije recimo onda stavio Rakzu Z Extra Hard, jer ona je brža i malo tvrđa od obične Rakze Z.

    • @zflorjan
      @zflorjan Před rokem

      @@DarioGrd hvala za savjet i pojašnjenje...isprobat ću svakako...lp

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      @@zflorjan nema problema, nadam se da će ti odgovarati i da ćeš biti zadovoljan

  • @lukakrezo3185
    @lukakrezo3185 Před rokem

    Pozdrav...kakva bi bila kombinacija tenergy 19 na fh a rakza z na bh za naprednog rekreativca?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem +1

      pozdrav. moguće da će biti dobra kombinacija, zavisi kakav vam je fh, a kakav bh, ali takvu kombinaciju nećete baš često naći jer većinom igrači tvrđu gumu stavljaju na fh, a mekšu na bh. kod vas bi to onda u ovom kombinaciji bilo obratno, ali ne znači da vam možda ne bi odgovaralo.

  • @DarkShadow-bg9fw
    @DarkShadow-bg9fw Před rokem

    Dario koja je guma bolja za bekend Rakza 9 ili Rakza z.Hvala Mario, pozdrav

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      ovisi ako ti odgovara tvrđa spužva na BH i to kaj je topsheet ljepljivi, onda rakza Z. po meni je rakza Z najbolja guma iz rakza serije, ali to ne znači da bude svakom odgovarala, jer su udarci s njom malo drugačiji nego s recimo rakzom 9 ili 7. lakše je dati spin sa rakzom 7 i 9, nego sa Z, ali ako imaš dobre pokrete (malo duže) onda u konačnici možeš više spina dobiti s rakzom Z. ako više štopaš i ravno udaraš na BH onda bolje rakza 9. ako koristiš flick i više orijentirani na spin onda rakza Z.

  • @PunggolPingPong
    @PunggolPingPong Před rokem

    Weight is important consideration. Despite all pro if rubber is heavy, it will not be considered. 52g is just too much.

  • @fahim13diu
    @fahim13diu Před rokem

    Hello, what is the thickness of Rakza Z rubber you are using?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      Hi. I always use max thickness only.

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess Před 9 měsíci

    I use Rakza Z on forehand and it does a lot of things very well. The thing I am a bit bothered with is that I feel that I lack linearity in the spin production. My coach says I need to hit thinly, but I find that trying to hit thinly with this rubber makes my shots very inconsistent. My coach is used to coaching european style and every player in my club is given xiom vega pros. Hitting thinly is for sure the best way to produce maximum amount of spin with Rakza Z, but the margin of error increase by a lot. In a club setting, I am what you would call a beginner level, a bit over the ranking you would give a player the first time they start playing ranked games. I am used to hitting with the blade since I played with Hurricane 3 Neo before -- I was using the flex of the blade as the catapult and not the rubber as catapult. Do you think Rakza Z on forehand could be played like this as well? ... or is it just my level that limits me from being able to hit thinly with this hard rubber and that I should try playing with a softer Euro-type rubber? I feel that its hard to judge wether or not I am impacting a lot of spin on the ball when it goes hard. However, when I get a thin and slow hit, most players at my level will struggle with the spin. Maybe the force kinda kills some of the spin when they are blocking it? I am also considering going back to DHS H3 Neo since I believe this develops a strong technique. Thanks for any feedback and I have a lot of videos of me playing on my channel.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 9 měsíci

      Yes, I agree with your coach on the way to create spin. As for the difference between the H3 and the RZ, it's big in the throw angle and if you don't like such a big throw angle, maybe then the RZ is not the rubber for you. The only thing that is not really clear to me is that it is much more difficult to produce a larger amount of spin with the H3 than with the RZ and with H3 you need to put a lot more power into the shot and also hit thin with a large swing. So if you can create good spin with the H3 then it should be even easier with the RZ. The only thing to watch out for is that high arc from RZ.

    • @z0uLess
      @z0uLess Před 9 měsíci

      @@DarioGrd I think people in coaching situations and in forum discussions get lost in the terms they are using. To me, hitting thin and also put more power into the shot is contradictory, but I suppose this combination is possible because the sponge is harder? Also, I still cant find a good definition of throw angle and what it is actually physically doing to the ball.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 9 měsíci

      @@z0uLess the harder the sponge, the more power is required to activate it. and thin contact is required to generate spin due to the stickiness of the topsheet.

    • @z0uLess
      @z0uLess Před 9 měsíci

      @@DarioGrd "with H3 you need to put a lot more power into the shot and also hit thin with a large swing" so which is it? power or thin?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 9 měsíci

      @@z0uLess for spin thin with big arm swing and acceleration

  • @ericd1084
    @ericd1084 Před rokem

    I haven't played Tenergy 19, but I tried Rakza Z extra hard. Rakza Z extra hard is quite slow unless you are very strong player. It was very difficult to fully activate the sponge.
    Rakza Z extra hard was quite easy to control, but I found it difficult finish points with that rubber. I disliked Rakza Z extra hard so much, that it doesn't make me want to try the normal Rakza Z. I'm currently playing Dignics 05 on forehand and Tenergy 80 on the backhand, but I've been thinking of giving Tenergy 19 a try. What's the difference between Tenergy 19 and Tenergy 80? On Butterfly's website the ratings of Tenergy 19 and 80 are nearly identical.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      The last time I tried the Tenergy 80 was a few years ago, so it's hard for me to compare it in detail with the Tenergy 19, but yes, I think you're right and they are quite similar rubbers.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před rokem

      As for Rakza Z EH, it is quite similar to Rakza Z, but what bothers you the most about EH is not so pronounced in the regular one. But if you didn't like EH so much, then you probably won't like regular Rakza Z either.

    • @alexandervarna8085
      @alexandervarna8085 Před rokem

      what what the reason you chose Rakza Z extra hard ? What is your level?

    • @akhmadrizaldy8386
      @akhmadrizaldy8386 Před rokem

      Tenergy 19 more spinny, Tenergy 80 more speed and good for flat hit.
      I'm using FH T 80, BH T 19. And i like it.

    • @Franciscoxds
      @Franciscoxds Před rokem

      It would be interesting to see a boosted rakza z, dignic 09c and dignics 05 as a backhand rubber. I think softening them up would be a big advantage. The dignics 05 might become to uncontrollable for me i think in the backhand.

  • @user-nf7eg5iz8e
    @user-nf7eg5iz8e Před 4 měsíci

    Hello Dario, I am using dhs hurricane 3 blue sponge on both viscaria and long 5 blade. I am confused which bh rubber should I use? Tenergy 05 or rakza z. I like tacky rubbers personally but I am worried rakza "Z" might be too slow :)

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe then it is not bad to choose a hybrid rubber. Which is slightly sticky and yet not too slow. See my comparison of 3 hybrid rubbers: czcams.com/video/-8puFywe0hg/video.html