Cost of a sailboat refit (what went wrong?) Part 4 - Sailing Ep 202

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  • How much to refit a sailboat? In the final of our total sailboat refit revisited mini-series, we reveal the total cost of a sailboat refit. We also discuss what went wrong, what worked and what we would do differently.
    Topics in this episode (click on time code to go straight there):
    00:00
    02:15 What worked
    05:36 What went wrong
    15:15 Managing the project
    19:05 Costs
    21:43 More expenses
    26:40 Bloopers
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Komentáře • 249

  • @neemguy81
    @neemguy81 Před 4 lety +28

    We miss Patrick, and Millie. You guys are great! Keep on keeping on.

  • @DStrayCat69
    @DStrayCat69 Před 4 lety +8

    Awesome video :-) I've been following Patrick and Rebecca for a couple of years. The last video to date was named "Patrick's last storm". I was crushed. I had to pause it several times to dry my eyes. I could feel Rebeca's grief. The poor girl is lost and I expect she'll be that way for some time. It's wonderful that you dedicated this episode to them. I'll shut-up now...

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +3

      It's so awful. I couldn't get to the end of her video, but will watch it when I'm feeling stronger. Liz

  • @nobody46820
    @nobody46820 Před 4 lety +10

    Love the vid!🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    I saw Patrick had sailed into the sunset, I've been a subscriber of his for some time now, he even replied to my comments.🙂 I'm still missing Millie.😸
    Prayers to you and Rebecca.🙏🏻

  • @Ron-zr6se
    @Ron-zr6se Před 4 lety +1

    That refit / rebuild was very economical and the level of workmanship quite satisfactory. All in all, she is a fine little ship and will serve you well for many more years.

  • @rabukan5842
    @rabukan5842 Před 4 lety +2

    I just restored a 50' Riva MY in Japan. This was mainly about replacing old equipment (generator, chargers, navigation equip., a/c, auto pilot, vhf, cleaning out the cooling system, replacing batteries, and overhauling the injection pump, adding a bimini and sun canopy) as the the hull is like new and the engines have less than 500 hours on them, and what you paid to rebuild your yacht was ridiculously cheap. To do what you did in the US would have been double, and even more here. Pretty amazing.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Good to know! Should be in Japan early 2022 if all goes to plan (would've been next year, but the virus or an end to that plan). Liz

    • @rabukan5842
      @rabukan5842 Před 4 lety

      Sailing followtheboat Yes, no tourists can come in, and we can’t go out. But, we have had 0 cases here in Okinawa in around 12 weeks. Hopefully by 2022 we’ll be over this pandemic and you can come visit Japan.

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657 Před 4 lety +4

    Wow, thanks for the mention that was pretty cool. Also thank you so much for the tribute to Mr.Childress, he and I spent much time chatting and sharing information, he was quite the fellow. I will miss him dearly. As I mentioned earlier I will mourn Millie with you. Cheers to you both.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      So sad. Thanks for the kind words. We're missing Millie terribly. Liz

  • @jaquigreenlees
    @jaquigreenlees Před 4 lety +1

    LOA 43 One Way Lift $201 Per Day Rate $40.77 Monthly $749 six months $498
    These are Canadian, usually only 50% of the pound but you need to add 12% for taxes.
    The actual yard cost here would be less than you paid at PSS.
    The labour and materials, way higher at $100/hr or more per worker. $50/mo per person to live on the boat.
    power is metered, shower and laundry etc is available on site.
    Large supermarket not too far away and it is a marina, one of the lower cost ones in the area.
    75 ton travel lift rates are what I posted, I didn't think you would be interested in the 250 ton travel lift rates. ;)
    It is a bit off the beaten track but fairly accessible.
    No problem about answering the questions, specially when I see them before you do.

  • @andersjakobsen9906
    @andersjakobsen9906 Před 4 lety +16

    It’s so sad with Patrick and Milli ♥️♥️

  • @alansailing1387
    @alansailing1387 Před 4 lety +2

    As long as the Thai workers are more than 1/8th as productive and a New Zealand worker you are ahead getting the work done in Thailand.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      We're pretty happy with our Thai workers. 😉 Liz

  • @Ahm.nae-fou
    @Ahm.nae-fou Před 4 lety +2

    I am afraid the quality of the work tradesmen in Europe deliver has deteriorated massively over the last 20 or so years whereas in Thailand it seems to have gotten a lot better, I have a lot more confidence when have work done in Thailand than in Germany or Switzerland. Friends in the UK even flew the tradesmen in from Thailand and the woodwork they had done is fantastic.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Wow, we haven't had similar work done in Europe, so can't comment, but we're happy with how it turned out in Thailand. 😁

  • @otherside2k3
    @otherside2k3 Před 4 lety +1

    Regarding cost, if you were to do it for example in Greece it would have taken twice as long, twice as expensive and half the quality you got and that is quite an industry here... I would imagine anywhere in Europe would have been insanely expensive... but i think for the whole project if it wasn't for your management style i would not have turned out the way it did.. you guys are stars

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thank you! Even in the best places, I think we'd want to be in site all day, every day. Cheers, Liz. 🙏

  • @twistedrace6885
    @twistedrace6885 Před 4 lety +1

    I truly enjoyed what both of you had to say about the rebuild and I liked what I saw when the boat was finished . I was always curious about having it done in New Zealand for Thailand and now I know ... New Zealand for me. Enjoy the New Boat..
    Robert
    North Star

  • @FeelItRising
    @FeelItRising Před 4 lety +7

    you two are always so well prepared for these videos. Presented beautifully covering a ton of information.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Liz 🙏

  • @sailingbronco9869
    @sailingbronco9869 Před 4 lety +2

    Clearly you have done an outstanding job with your rebuild. Our first rebuild of Bronco was in Philippines where, like Thailand we found wonderful people with tremendous enthusiasm at a very reasonable cost. But they also had limited experience, inadequate resources and absent supervision they would often have to repeat projects at some additional expense. I wouldn’t recommend any refit or rebuild in either location without onsite management by an experienced owner. And even with that, you will most likely find that some of the work will need to be repeated at later date by experienced shipwrights. Yes more expensive but where reputations carry weight, mistakes are not tolerated. Since most owners have time considerations, having confidence that accomplish work was done professionally and at appropriate standards may be worth the extra expense. In either case, do your homework first so that you know ahead of time what the chosen path will most likely entail. Otherwise you will not enjoy your refit experiences.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thailand is a different ball game to the Philippines, there's a lot more expertise. Cheers, Liz

  • @pnwesty7174
    @pnwesty7174 Před 4 lety +9

    I'm absolutely no expert, but based on all the cost videos I've seen for refits, I can't see how you wouldn't crack $100,000+. Maybe the guy was right about worker efficiency in NZ, but cost of living in NZ for a flat would probably have been three times, for half as long? Add transport, travel, and food? I can't see it. Thanks for the work it took to summarize 13 months into 4 videos. I can't imagine. Hope you're both holding up.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      We're doing OK, just sad at the moment.
      Yes, we think the labour costs and living expenses make it pretty unbeatable value. Liz x

    • @mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643
      @mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643 Před 4 lety

      That's a good point about cost of living there.

  • @barbroevanderlindquist4128

    Liz, your shirt/frock is marvelous! Barbro Sweden

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks! It's Finnish designer Marimekko for Uniqlo. 😁 Liz

  • @hoperules8874
    @hoperules8874 Před 4 lety +7

    Wow! You guys have such great content! Checking out Patrick's sight, too! Fair Winds!

  • @SailingABSea
    @SailingABSea Před 4 lety +1

    Wow that was a great summary, especially liked the bit about what you would do differently with hindsight. Thanks.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Cheers! You gotta be honest and we've had long enough to think about it now… Liz

  • @smartmonkey777
    @smartmonkey777 Před 4 lety +5

    The capacitor(s) is used to limit current , led's can take quite a wide range of voltages but burn out with too much current.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      You're right, we could have discussed this in more detail, but didn't have time! Cheers, Liz

    • @smartmonkey777
      @smartmonkey777 Před 4 lety

      @@followtheboat haha, its ok thats why i added this...

    • @saylaveenadmearedead
      @saylaveenadmearedead Před 4 lety

      I purchased 2 under counter indirect lights of multiple bulbs and wired them directly to the battery bank but they get quite hot. Should I put a rectifier, regulator or capacitor on each?

  • @ABeriault
    @ABeriault Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks you so much for the friendly thumbs up!
    Your two are a great couple. We are all of us CZcamsrs quite depressed with Patrick’s dire end to covid19. Hopefully Rebecca will get back to her sailing life! Her clip was quite saddening and forced us to look at the whole world drama quite differently!
    Go safely...cheers.. oh and very sorry for your own cat loss!

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Too many deaths recently, it's hard to bear. Liz 😔

  • @bayanicustodio3998
    @bayanicustodio3998 Před 4 lety +1

    I get the feeling the trade off is over the variable of time. Which is a big factor whether you have it or not. NZ or the Med might be fine if you want things done fast since parts are more readily available but if you have time to wait and source parts all over the world for bargains I would go with cheaper labour costs and possibly lower parts cost. Not to mention the ability to be more immersed in the local culture. 👍🙂

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Yes, we still think it was cheaper in Thailand, even though it might have been quicker in Europe. But immersing ourselves in a new culture - you can't put a price on that. Liz 🙏

  • @beckydesancha3164
    @beckydesancha3164 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for your honesty about prices. We are re building... not re fitting... an Edel Cat 35. While also still working and building a house. ... to give extra income when we set sail. We started great keeping track of costs but have since lost track!! Doh!! Our problem is on a budget we are trying to do all the work ourselves but with 'day time jobs' time is our biggest problem. We set sail in October 2022 so feel there is time, but now pressure is on! Time flies!! I so enjoy watching your channel and gathering great info. Hope to meet you both somewhere in the World when we set sail. Your travels are how I hope to travel.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      We have friends who've been rebuilding their 435 themselves for years! I hope you make the deadline, it creeps up fast… Liz

  • @denniscollins2032
    @denniscollins2032 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm very sad on the passing of Millie. The same with Patrick. Good show, well designed. Sticker shock as I have to update my viewpoint to adjust for inflation.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      We're still inconsolable about Millie. Sad times. 😔 Liz

  • @sailingwiththeerros9139

    Your honesty and self discussion are gold for any want to be sailor/traveler. Cheers.

  • @allied1394
    @allied1394 Před 4 lety +1

    By the way I think u guys did an amazing job the boat is absolutely beautiful and given the craftsmanship and attention to detail you got every penny of your money’s worth in the USA this rebuild would’ve easily been 150,000$ to 200,000$ all in you guys made out really well

  • @antayat123
    @antayat123 Před 4 lety +1

    So sorry to hear about your friend Patrick losing his battle. I'll check out his channel.

  • @AW9531
    @AW9531 Před 4 lety

    Liz & Jamie - I have been doing a lengthy rebuild/refit, mostly be myself. Here in Canada, away from the major sailing centers, it is almost impossible to hire professional help. And when I can, the labour cost is CAD90 or GBP60/hour - very good quality and fast, BUT EXPENSIVE! When I bought the boat in the US/Chesapeake good work was readily available but the cost was even higher!
    For the scope & quality of work in Satun, I believe that you did very well!

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Cheers! I think Thailand is one of the best places to get work done, the work ethic there is excellent. And it's a great way to get to know and cherish a new culture. Liz

  • @otherside2k3
    @otherside2k3 Před 4 lety +1

    Guys for the countertop consider Corian, if installed correctly it's extremely durable and you can keep buffing it up forever, stains scratches anything can be repaired with a bit of buffing. You can use it even for your cupboards and other areas.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Yes, we looked at Corian at the time, but just couldn't afford it. We might go that way in the future. Liz

  • @Yacov
    @Yacov Před 4 lety +9

    RIP Patrick

  • @atakancivan22
    @atakancivan22 Před 2 lety

    I think Turkey is a really good place to get that kind of jobs done. Enjoy your boat. It looks amazing.

  • @feedyourhead7464
    @feedyourhead7464 Před 4 lety +3

    Glad your back. I’m a new fan and a future boater. I have learned a lot from you both in a short amount of time. Thanks for doing what do on CZcams!!!

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      That's a lovely comment! Thank you and welcome aboard! Liz 🙏

  • @saylaveenadmearedead
    @saylaveenadmearedead Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the tribute to Patrick Childess, and yes he did no nonsense videos and a rebuilding of Brickhouse that Rebecca can be safe and cozy with for many years.
    I had my worries about how Patrick was operating without a life vest and harness in his last video and some of the other things he advocated but also made full disclosure of it being his way....
    In the end of the day, we are the lucky ones who can move around the world mostly by our own design!!!

  • @simonhantler8062
    @simonhantler8062 Před 4 lety +1

    im a tradesman in NZ and cost for skilled carpenter is $650 a day compared to $25 in thailand. i would say NZ would be twice the cost but less headaches and world class shipwrites.

  • @andrewmedeiros655
    @andrewmedeiros655 Před rokem

    4 ought steel wool for the stainless. Works like magic on brushed, polished, chrome, aluminum

  • @maryetdave
    @maryetdave Před 4 lety +1

    Another thumbs up to you guys, RIP Patrick

  • @themarketapprentice
    @themarketapprentice Před 4 lety

    Another fantastic video guys! My wife and I are 8 years away from selling up still and going off sailing the world! Your channel is one of our inspirations

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you, to inspire anyone is a blessing. 👌👍 Liz

  • @darrenj3267
    @darrenj3267 Před 4 lety +1

    That was a really interesting episode. with regards to labour, you were paying £12 a day, back here in UK a relatively competent carpenter will charge £15 and hour and a good shipwrite will charge £25/hr so the UK version would have to be significantly more efficient than their Thai counterpart to make them more cost effective. My the time you have crossed the pacific to Japan and then pootled down to New Zealand, via Australia Esper may be ready for another refit so you will be able to compare the two centres and see which one makes most sence. Having said that you can't put a price on the peace of mind you get working with crafts people you trust and respect and the value you placed on the likes of Tong and Tui is pretty obvious.
    I know that one little heart beat has fallen silent on Esper and hope that you guys are finding comfort in looking through your old videos and remebering all the good times with Millie

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Working with all those people and becoming immersed in their culture was priceless and something we'll never forget. I don't think I could face (or afford) another refit of that size!
      There a big hole in our hearts, we are inconsolable, but thanks for the kind words. Liz 🙏

  • @toms4123
    @toms4123 Před 4 lety +1

    Great series, not a re-hash but excellent summing up of the rebuilt. Very Good.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Glad you enjoyed it, we hoped people would find some value in it. Liz 👍

  • @svbarryduckworth628
    @svbarryduckworth628 Před 4 lety

    We completely reupholstered the saloon with all new materials in the winter if 2017-2018 and after two years of full-time living aboard it is completely knackered.
    Lounging daily in extremely warm climates often with a lot of bare skin, sweating bullets all over it, skin oils, and just the wear and tear of sitting down and getting up multiple times a day and skootching around just beats it up something fierce. It is all getting threadbare.
    Ours is a small 35-foot sailboat and there just isn't a lot of different places to hang out inside. Our sitting and lounging spots get used constantly, every day. We spend some time out in the cockpit and on deck but because of bugs, heat, and sun it is often more comfortable inside the boat where it is cooler and bug-free. In the evening here one will get eaten alive outside once the sun goes down.
    Then over the last couple months of being in isolation for COVID-19 on anchor put the nail in the coffin. We were literally always home. The upholstery got no rest.
    There is no rehabilitation or cleaning of the upholstery but I believe the new foam can be reused when we redo the settees and nav desk cushions soon. We will use better material next rime bur I fear no matter how good it is reupholstery will be a regular job for us every few years.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, we recovered the foam, not a huge or expensive job. The new fabric is hardier and in a textured grey/brown doesn't show the marks too badly. Cheers, Liz

    • @svbarryduckworth628
      @svbarryduckworth628 Před 4 lety

      Do you ever use any slipcovers over any of the high-traffic cushions? My wife hates the feel of polyester fabrics and often will put a sarong or towel on her side of the settee. If anything her side is more threadbare than mine where I do not bother. Maybe a fitted cover would work better, and could be washed regularly. But at that point why bother reupholstering anyhow if it is always going to be covered? When we started cruising the wear and tear on cushions wasn't even on my radar. On land furniture often lasts decades. We never realized how in a smaller space the few nooks and sitting spaces would so much more harder used.
      We made a custom-fit padded mattress pad cover on each cushion in the sleeping area of the V-berth as well as a couple sets of fitted sheets. We refoamed those cushions too but were able to save the original upholstery covers from 1976 and they still look pretty good now too. That adds credence to the thought that slipcovers are the way to go on the settees. Time to get out the sewing machine again.

  • @SVImpavidus
    @SVImpavidus Před 4 lety

    A great summary. So much information. Patrick would be smiling, adding a comment or two for sure! Sail Safe Guys, Ant, Cid & the pooch crew. xx

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, he often commented. Such a sad loss. 😔 Liz

  • @LowtideLarsky
    @LowtideLarsky Před 4 lety +1

    I’d say off the top of my head it would cost you at least double to have that done in a professional boatyard here in BC Canada. Excellent work all of you 🤙🏽

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      This seems to be the consensus, I'm sure you're right. Cheers! Liz

  • @peterkacandes5905
    @peterkacandes5905 Před 4 lety +2

    Great review and summary. I’ve also been thinking of adding a drop down swim step, so good info on the spacing of the boards when it’s down.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Yes, don't do it like us, leave nice, wide gaps. Cheers, Liz

  • @paulharriman1901
    @paulharriman1901 Před 4 lety +1

    Copper is antibacterial so a good choice for the countertop and handles

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Yes, but it would be too much for me I'm afraid. Love it, just not as a large work surface. Liz

  • @bryanwatt9751
    @bryanwatt9751 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the update on Sonbat! Well done for helping out his family.

  • @zed6067
    @zed6067 Před 4 lety +3

    Watched your whole refit series and others which are great. You mentioned the new engine and there are videos on new sails, Code 0, lithium batteries, dinghy and other replacements so I would be interested to know how much these cost too as these add the investment in your superb new home.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      There's a video on the price of our sails and I think we mention the cost of our lithium set-up in the episode on going lithium too. Most of these are upgrades or replacements, though, and many other smaller items which wear out having to be being replaced too. It's an on-going project!

  • @scottskirrow1611
    @scottskirrow1611 Před 4 lety +1

    hey good on you guys for mention of Patrick's channel !!! I was a follower of his channel, hopefully she'll continue with it !
    I totally enjoy your channel also !!!
    cheers Scott

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Visible news about Patrick. Thank you for enjoying our channel. Liz

  • @davidclarke7728
    @davidclarke7728 Před 4 lety

    Another great vlog , very honest. RIP PC, Rebecca is a very brave lady.

  • @gavingrantham136
    @gavingrantham136 Před 4 lety +1

    Liz & Jamie, a CZcams channel "Sailing Lady Africa" that bought an old Dean 365 in South Africa, did show their progress from start to finish as they gutted and rebuild their Cat, over a two year period (11/2017 - 02/2020) with the costs at the end in the region of $110K.

  • @tarivard
    @tarivard Před 4 lety

    I’ve refit two boats on my own using the expertise of a yard to handle projects out of my scope of knowledge. I would struggle to get the same quality of work and attention to detail that you managed to achieve in Thailand based on your budget. Well worth doing it there. I’ve only sailed once there on a friend’s Bruce Roberts 44 and loved it over there. I’ve been back a couple of times but not sailing.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      If you get the chance to sail over here, we'd recommend it! 🙏 Liz

    • @saylaveenadmearedead
      @saylaveenadmearedead Před 4 lety

      @@followtheboat what are the possibilities for picking up a good used sailing 40 foot sailboat in that area?

  • @onawhim9079
    @onawhim9079 Před 4 lety +1

    That video hit the spot, answered all my questions and more, thank you.

  • @jamelweatherspoon363
    @jamelweatherspoon363 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely impressive and informative series. True CZcams resource.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 3 lety

      Cheers, glad you enjoyed it. 👍🙏 Liz
      The entire series, with detailed coverage of the jobs and life in a That boatyard, is here: czcams.com/play/PLoE3FmplhAXNsNWWZ6iTMzYYwKVtDanCr.html

  • @MonkPetite
    @MonkPetite Před 4 lety +1

    If you have a victron mppt there is a second out put , one you can programme to give exactly the output needed .

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the heads up. We know the Victron mppt is really good kit and would have bought one of we hadn't already got it current model. Maybe something to think about for the future… Liz 🙏

  • @69yearsago97
    @69yearsago97 Před rokem +1

    What a beautiful boat, inside and out 😍👍
    Is she referring to the office as a "boffice"? 😂👍 I'm going to steal that

  • @Rama_Guru
    @Rama_Guru Před 4 lety +1

    thanks so much or your honesty... wish you the best.... this makes me think I would be better to buy a new boat or an old Indonesian one that has value. thanks so much for your work!!!

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Your welcome! We'd never buy new (unless we were rich). 😆 Liz

  • @blueeyes532
    @blueeyes532 Před 4 lety

    Great video as usual, very informative as always 👍
    And thanks for the tribute to Patrick Childress. Some months back I started to check out his videos on CZcams, really a great guy. I am sad he is now gone.

  • @rosiesails3947
    @rosiesails3947 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you so much! You have given me so many things to look at and ideas for my refit.
    My boat is on the hard in Trinidad and I am thinking of doing all of my mechanical and rigging there and then going to Thailand for all the fiberglass, carpentry and painting. I will be documenting our refit on CZcams as well, if nothing else something to look back on.
    How do you think the 6mm of teak has held up in the cabin?
    Different subject - do you know Celestial Navigation? If not do you both want to learn? I have an idea that we can trade some skills if your interested.
    I also finished the entire shipyard/refit series, one good thing of being in isolation, lol.
    Very sad to hear about Patrick I subscribe to their channel as well.
    Thank you again!
    Jim

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for commenting! Yes, the teak had held up, the only problem has been where we've dropped things on it, so now it has 'character'. 😆 Other than that, it still looks beautiful. Liz

  • @sebell69
    @sebell69 Před 5 měsíci +1

    you guys pretty much bought a new boat! at 61,485 pounds ($78,415.82) and that's in Thailand imagine if you had done the refit in England/Scotland or the USA (I dont think they are that capable maybe in the NW coast)

  • @DriftfishCo
    @DriftfishCo Před 4 lety +1

    17:28 Yay! Thanks for the mention!

  • @R.E.HILL_
    @R.E.HILL_ Před 4 lety +1

    Was it worth it...? In addition to you guys saying it was... it made a lot of very cool videos for us to watch... 🙂👍

  • @dazthesailor6363
    @dazthesailor6363 Před 4 lety

    Based on my costs of “upgrading” my 12 year old Sun oddessey , rigging , through hull, some electric upgrades etc I think you did really well ! As liz said it was a rebuild which is more extensive than a refit .. love you guys keep up the good work ❤️

  • @jeremymitchell995
    @jeremymitchell995 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting guys...one thing you did not mention (you may have covered this below already...sorry if you have) is you need also to offset your yearly costs you would have had without the refit. Great job though and thanks for the video.

  • @DappaDogs
    @DappaDogs Před 4 lety +1

    Hi guys. My wife and I have been watching a number of your videos and been very impressed. We have a Sunbeam 44 and in the next few months we are about to embark on the start of our journey. I have a quick question. As you have spent most of your time overseas and not resident in the UK, did you become liable for the country's tax laws, or does it work some other way?
    Look forward to hearing from you, Tom & Kim

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      You can choose to pay tax in any country you reside, as I understand it. We continue to pay taxes in the UK as we still have ties there.

  • @Bradley_Clark
    @Bradley_Clark Před 4 lety

    This was the perfect ending episode to this series. Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing!
    Thumbed

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thank you, I'm glad you found the series interesting. 👍 Liz

  • @SailingDecorum
    @SailingDecorum Před 4 lety +2

    thanks
    for sharing all the little details

  • @michaeltillman1147
    @michaeltillman1147 Před 4 lety +4

    Wonderful video as usual. Listening to you guys talk of the expenses I have to wonder if it wouldn't be a close call at minimum or better in the long run to just get a new boat? Especially if , like me you are thinking of getting an older boat to refit/rebuild for living aboard. 😎

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +3

      We laid out the reasons why it would not have been possible to get a new boat at the same spec as Esper in Part 1, also in the blog post (link in description). Cheers, Liz

  • @lkm5462
    @lkm5462 Před 4 lety

    Also another way to look at it is how many years before you have to do this level again. I believe the yearly price is fairly small when you look at it like that. 62k decided by six years mean a 10k cost per year. That’s pretty small. If it last more years the number goes down more per year.Yes I know there will be other things to fix. I’d rather live in Thailand than most other places in that area anyway. No matter the cost for the boat your not living that cheap in most other parts of the world for that length of time and I think that is not debatable. Love your show and the info you provide

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Thanks! We've been giving serious thought to ending up back in this part of the world of we ever decide to settle on land. 🙏 Liz

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much for the shout out to Patrick and Rebecca.

  • @mikehortin9964
    @mikehortin9964 Před 4 lety +1

    A wonderful result
    Did you notice many steel vessels being worked on at PSS?

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      Plenty. They're more than capable of helping out with steel boats.

  • @jeffpargetter9038
    @jeffpargetter9038 Před 4 lety

    Lovely tribute to Patrick 😘👌

  • @philiporourke7896
    @philiporourke7896 Před 2 lety +2

    Great vid, thanx.

  • @stangiles2001
    @stangiles2001 Před 3 lety

    lovely work by good people

  • @davidfrost1428
    @davidfrost1428 Před 4 lety

    Awesome info, thanks, this is a great channel. So shocked about Patrick but he leaves us with all his awesome info also. I’ll be learning from him for a long time.

  • @bartwesp4303
    @bartwesp4303 Před 4 lety

    Great mini series.
    I watched most of the original content and found it generally informative.
    Fine work.

  • @acadeca8006
    @acadeca8006 Před 4 lety +1

    solid video, thank you for the crash course!

  • @clayfarnet970
    @clayfarnet970 Před 4 lety +1

    Well done, that was an incredible job.Thanks for sharing your detailed info with us. Now I’m really depressed. 😂😂👍👍

  • @mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643

    I don't know if I'd call that a refit, but far closer to a rebuild. I haven't rebuilt boats, but I've built enough homes to compare that to gutting a house and rebuilding within the bones and refinishing the outside. The finished job looks great. It always amazes me how live aboard sailors can take an older boat gut it and rebuild it while absolutely put the original interior designer to shame.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      It was a 'rebuild', that's for sure! Cheers, Liz

  • @lnewbyliveca
    @lnewbyliveca Před 4 lety +2

    The stainless alone in Canada would be 30+ CND

  • @mentonish
    @mentonish Před 4 lety +1

    ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW

  • @scottgenius9189
    @scottgenius9189 Před 4 lety

    Your rebuild would have cost a lot more in the Uk and the quality of carpentry work is top notch in Thailand awesome rebuild !

  • @slavek033
    @slavek033 Před 3 lety

    24v led strips are very bright about 15W/m and they can be dimmed

  • @trevhedges
    @trevhedges Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks guys!

  • @englishrose1122
    @englishrose1122 Před 4 lety +2

    I’m confused as I watched a refit you did a while ago. Is this a second refit? Just got notification MILLY has died. Please explain the timeline if you don’t mind. How many refits have been done? xxxx from the UK

    • @jaquigreenlees
      @jaquigreenlees Před 4 lety +1

      This is going over that original year long refit and giving a summary of it.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Correct! Thanks, Jaqui. Liz x

  • @AthelstanEngland
    @AthelstanEngland Před 4 lety

    I can't see how costs in NZ, Europe etc would be even close... double seems unlikely more like four or five times as much I would have thought. If you are paying £12 per day as opposed to perhaps £120-£200 per day even accounting for more efficiency it seems unlikely. And then £80 per month for accommodation! It's not even close. Great mini series. Only just found your channel from a post about losing your cat Mille - very sad. :(

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      We're still mourning Millie, she's left a big hole.
      We agree that when you take everything into consideration, we're glad we did all this work in Thailand. Cheers, Liz

  • @alienemperor
    @alienemperor Před 2 lety +1

    Just found your channel today, what a wealth of great content. Fascinating to be able to jump between 15 years ago, 8 years ago and today.
    I‘m curious, do you have a video about buying the boat in the first place? I‘d love to know the price you paid for it, and the state it was in at that point.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 2 lety

      Hello and welcome aboard! You've got a lot of videos to get through, including all the extras in our playlists! Unfortunately we only started videoing in 2014, but our blog goes all the way back to 2002, before we bought Esper and before Liz and I met! Check out followtheboat.com/

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 2 lety

      We made a video about boat buying which might be interesting? Liz -
      czcams.com/video/PQyn02VT1jY/video.html

    • @alienemperor
      @alienemperor Před 2 lety

      @@followtheboat wow! I just scrolled through and found tons of interesting stuff that I‘ll have to read. However, I didn’t find anything about buying the boat. I‘d be happy with a rough estimate of price and age. It‘d be interesting because with the rebuild she‘s practically new, and I think that’s an absolute bargain.

    • @alienemperor
      @alienemperor Před 2 lety

      @@followtheboat thank you, I will take a look!

  • @stangiles2001
    @stangiles2001 Před 3 lety

    great wiring job

  • @bobrose7900
    @bobrose7900 Před 4 lety

    You've made me weep with how cheap it was - I would say you could have multiplied the costs by 10 (yes 10) if it had been done in the Solent, and had a much worse job. So well done!

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Blimey, I had a sneaking suspicion it would be more expensive in the US, but 10 times a much? Wow! 🤔 Liz

  • @peternorton7665
    @peternorton7665 Před 4 lety

    that blouse looks nice on you Liz

  • @michaelcalvert-smith4583

    This is very interesting, and a bit late but... how much knowledge did you have before the refit started. You are obviously very knowledgable but I wonder how much was picked up along the way. Once again, excellent vids 😄

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před rokem

      We knew nothing! Common sense and plenty of general business sense probably helped? Liz

  • @dreadnoughtb3364
    @dreadnoughtb3364 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great video thank you two for sharing this amazing journey. Keep it up

  • @quoctrinh6064
    @quoctrinh6064 Před 3 lety

    Can you show us your new boat inside out . Thanks

  • @carlosd.atkinson4832
    @carlosd.atkinson4832 Před 4 lety

    Awesome episode, thanks for sharing!

  • @kevinfisher1345
    @kevinfisher1345 Před 4 lety

    Is it cheaper, meh really difficult. As brought up the time or efficiency of time, the costs of importing, etc will likely offset this. There is also the factor of simply easier networking and obtaining items is so much easier in your own country and language. So would not be surprised if it is a case by case basis in which could be or could not be. HOWEVER, the quality of the craftsmen and work imho makes it all worthwhile. Sure you can get good quality elsewhere as well, but not at that labour cost as you will end up paying even more then the standard rates for such quality. So many places simply does not have the vast amounts of many of these trades anymore to such standards in larger numbers. What I can say is you got a good deal for all of that work, in which yes I am sure could be done elsewhere as well, but regardless you got a good deal and quality work that anyone should be happy with such results.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      We're happy with the results and believe they did a good job. Cheers, Liz

  • @TheRealSasquatch
    @TheRealSasquatch Před 4 lety +2

    £61k for all that work at that quality - incredibly reasonable.

  • @peterkacandes5905
    @peterkacandes5905 Před 4 lety +2

    A quick dab of KiwiGrip will give you non-skid at the mast base.

  • @jonathanneethling
    @jonathanneethling Před 4 lety

    Buy 3M stainless steel polish in a spray can. It will coat your brushed aluminum and make it super easy to clean and it won’t rust...

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      It's not stainless steel, it's laminate! 🤔 Liz

  • @danielwardin1203
    @danielwardin1203 Před 4 lety

    Good show. See you next Sunday. Yup, you and the god-awful NYT Sunday puzzle are my church grounds...

  • @taraevasophea7743
    @taraevasophea7743 Před 4 lety +1

    If u could advise me, what type of boat/catamaran/yatch u would suggest me , as a newbie?

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      That's too big of a question to answer here. Watch "How to buy a Sailboat": czcams.com/video/PQyn02VT1jY/video.html

  • @lydiaajohnson
    @lydiaajohnson Před 4 lety

    I had no idea Patrick Childress passes away. I am so so so sad. He was a worthy old salt who used his channel to mentor us. I will miss his videos. Seems unfair that his life ended due to a stupid tiny microbe. My heart goes out to Rebecca. She will continue to be an elder in this amazing community of cruisers. That said, the two of you are worthy elders as well. Patrick would probably appreciate you taking his mantle along with Rebecca. This comes as quite a surprise.

  • @HARRRYVID
    @HARRRYVID Před 4 lety +1

    If you are over 50 you can investigate "retirement visa" this needs proof of income of over 80000 baht a year or a deposit of the same in the bank. This gives you a one year visa without need for visa runs. (a wife can use the same money for the visa.

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety

      Yes, we've looked at this option in various countries. The trouble is we always think we'll be moving on far more quickly than we actually do! Liz

  • @bryanwatt9751
    @bryanwatt9751 Před 4 lety

    Wow, that's some serious dosh! Did you consider a fresh start on a newer boat?

    • @followtheboat
      @followtheboat  Před 4 lety +1

      We weigh up the different options in Past 1, it was never a possibility to do that. Cheers, Liz