Agreed, and Dorothy Kilgallen as well. If she was still alive then, I have no doubt she would have been a panelist with Arlene in the colour version. Hell, I'm sure Bennett would have joined as well.
I just finished Gil Fates' (Producer) book on WML. He makes no bones about it, the daytime 5x a week syndicated show wasn't intended to be the same game.
This is the version of "What's My Line" that I remember but it's funny how these color episodes now have a tacky game show vibe. The originals seemed more like a urbane cocktail party.
You hit the nail on the head. This looks, plays and feels like a game show. The original felt like a bunch of people at a cocktail party in NY society and you were able to peek in on them playing a game.
Markxxx Oh, you are so correct. If you watch both It's clear that the '50s and '60s panelists had a higher intelligence and base of knowledge. Nooo doubt about it.
While I agree with all of the comments on the original being better, one thing you have to admit, Goodson-Todman were very good at adapting to a changing American mindset. Look at the few surviving "Match Game" episodes from the 1960's vs. those of the 1970's.
Personally I would have not run the show in syndication after 1967. I would have kept it in the exact live format it had began with in 1950 until retiring the show in it's 25th year. In Dorothy's situation it was death but the show should have continued at least 6 more years after 1967 with John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis along with Bennett Cerf until his death in 1971. It would have been difficult the last two years after Bennett's death for John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis on the panel. Personally I would have retired the show in 1975 just as I would have done with the Ed Sullivan until the show's 25th anniversary in 1973. Two fantastic shows that ended their long run too soon.
The final 2 season of the original WML were in color. But the videotapes of those shows weren't preserved. What exists from those years was Mark Goodson's kinescopes from his personal collection, which were shot on B&W film (even though the show was in color).
Such a treat seeing Bennett & Gene Rayburn on the same show. Both were great!! I agree that no one could replace John Daly....not even Bruner, who had a similar news background.
I agree. There is no replacement for Dorothy Kilgallen who died in 1965 and Bennett Cerf who died in 1971 but I would have kept the show running in the exact format live as it had in 1950 with John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis on the panel having someone such as Steve Allen take over Bennett Cerf's spot after Bennett's death and Phyllis Newman in Dorothy Kilgallen's spot after her death the remainder of the show run until its 25th anniversary and end of run in 1975. Soupy Sales added in 1967 until end of run in 1975. Colour added in 1965 as had with the Ed Sullivan Show.
Cerf’s hated Dorothy because she was so much smarter than him and he had nothing good to say about her even though she was dead in his oral history recorded interview at Columbia. you can read the transcript. It’s over 1000 pages because he was never one to shy about talking about himself.
When Ford won his congressional district election in 1972, he planned on it being his last election and he was going to retire from public service after 1974. Plans definitely played out much different for him, and the nation will always be indebted.....he was the right man at the right time.
Bennett made a good point that the product (popsicle sticks) are NOT eaten. I wonder how John Daly would have handled that? I think he might not have let it slip through in the first pace.
Great point. I think he would have clarified that what she carried out was a service. She wasn't involved in either the manufacturing of the treats nor the sticks, but operated conditions by which they were inserted (if my understanding is correct). She was also involved in the creating of the product "in a general sense".
This was back in the day when a politician of either major political party would be respectfully welcomed, whenever they would appear on a show such as WML. I am happy that I can clearly recall those days - something sadly lacking today.
When asked if he was in sports, Ford should have answered "Not any more". He was an All-American football player at Michigan and had offers to play in the NFL. But in those days (1930's), pro football didn't pay all that well, so he accepted a scholarship to Yale Law School instead (he also was an assistant football coach while at Yale).
He was a model in his time away from law school... in those days, suits and other formal business wear were a much bigger deal than they are in today's USA. He was even part-owner of a modeling agency for years (not the Ford Agency... that was Eileen Ford's baby, and her husband Jerry was no relation to Gerald).
Anybody that’s ever watched many WML reruns with open eyes has figured out that Cerf will do anything to get more camera time. He should be fond of John Charles Daly because he allowed him to plug his publishing company constantly.
These days on Buzzr, the opening part with Johnny Olsen introducing the first member of the panel and the rest introducing themselves are all cut out and begins with Larry Blyden entering the studio. They also fade out as the contestant gets up from the chair and greets the panel. Oh well--I guess we're lucky to have any form of this in 2020.
I’m pretty sure the thousands of people that Cerf scammed out of millions of dollars with his “famous writers school” scam muss their money more than they miss him
steeveomatic Agreed. I remember how vicious the Democrats were toward him, calling him dumb, and a “plodder”. Look up Lyndon Johnson’s quote about him.
Good to see Bennett Cerf again. Sorry that John Daly was not hosting the show. The show in Black and White always had the panelists in formal dress as well as John Charles Daly which provided class to the show where the color version was informal. Liked the Black and White version better. The background music was also informal. I do not believe John Daly would have approved the new format. I do miss all the old panelists.
The time filler at the end was a little clumsy and embarrassing. Also, two screw ups by Wally: 1. Popsickle sticks are not eaten. 2. Asked Bennett a question during time filler segment, and did not give him chance to answer it.
When WML was revived as a weekday syndicated show, it was shot during the day, twice a week, 5 shows per taping, two weeks a month. This conflicted with Bennett's business schedule and speaking tours. But he still tried to squeeze in a taping session, whenever his schedule allowed, until his death.
Very poor production. Rushed through games so they could a guy wrestle alligators and then questions for the panel about what they are doing, (here come the plugs).. The elegant atmosphere of the original show went out the window with the garish set.
Most game shows in that era did...Match Game, The Dating Game, the Newlywed Game, etc. I think most of them had also been Goodson-Todman productions, come to think of it...
I went in the military in 1974 Nixon was President for about a week then we had a new Commander in Chief Gerald R Ford. Very decent man I always believed if he had an extra week of campaigning he would of beat Carter his momentum was on the upswing that final week.
So the episodes changed with the times. It was a typical morning show. So what? I accept these as time capsules. It was still fun and no need to beat up on Wally Bruno. After all, Arlene and Bennett often asked for guests to perform. Perhaps the producers took that into consideration. All in all Bennet Cerf was just a charming and intelligent man. No matter the era. RIP Bennett. Ps I once interviewed Brenda Vaccaro on the set of Airport ‘77. She was energetic, funny and charming too. It was a fun interview!
+YouzTube99 I agree. I thought Bennett looked pretty damn healthy. Imagine anyone these days being employed to put sticks in popsicles? I'd be driven mad with that job after about 10 minutes...
Brenda Vaccaro was not only an actress in films, tv series, and broadway plays, she was also a voice actress in The Jetsons, The Critic, Johnny Bravo, Summer Camp Island and other shows.
I love the old black snd white shoes with Arlene, Dorothy, snd Bennet, love John Charles Daley! They were so funny and respectful, beautiful clothes, best show ever
Bruner asks Cerf an important question then doesn't answer it saying they don't have time and then engages in mindless banter which was all the time Cerf would have needed. A sign of the dysfunctional '70s and the inferiority of Wally Bruner. Sad to see in retrospect the degradation of society from when you were born (the late '50s) to the '70s. Really quite sad to see the greased downward slope society in general had now found itself on.
Cerf saidsomething that kind of explains what you said - all the panelists had full time jobs and were professionals, while some of the later panelists may have been famous for a while, but really weren’t doing anything now. That kind of made sense to me. Look at Arlene. She was always performing in plays, having to learn her lines, her brain always “on” as it were. Bennett constantly worked with professional businessmen. Hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
Nice, to see Bennett Cerf-and, Wally Bruner, the host, with whom I grew up, as a viewer. Having viewed, now, numerous episodes of the John Daly incarnation, I find I prefer it. I concur, with its description, as put forward by tomchris60, three years ago.
Somebody asked who Joanna Barnes is. She's best known as Brian Keith's girlfriend in the original "Parent Trap" and the girls' grandmother in the remake. She also played Peter Falk's ex-wife on the short-lived but critically-acclaimed "Trials of O'Brien" in 1965-66 and hosted a short-lived daytime talk show, "Dateline: Hollywood," in 1967. She's also a writer; she used to write a newspaper column, "Touching Home," and has written some romance novels. I could easily have seen her taking Dorothy's chair on the Sunday-night show but "O'Brien" was in production when Dorothy passed away. For those who don't think the syndicated show was as good as the network version, while I tend to agree, Gil Fates and Bob Bach wanted to make the daytime show more informal, with the panel dressed more casually and the sorts of demonstrations that characterized "I've Got A Secret." The idea of demonstrations was something John Daly refused to have any part of, and it would have been difficult to get the panel involved what with their formal attire. I do like Larry Blyden as host of the daytime show better than I do Wally Bruner, who I think was simply trying to copy Daly's mannerisms.
Who could have known that this man would become Vice President and then President in such a short time -- without having been elected to either office!
To Joseph Kearny, I think a lot of critics and those who've seen the 1958 Rosalind Russell version of "Auntie Mame" would agree with you. I just tend to think mainly of "The Parent Trap" and "Trials of O'Brien" when I think of Joanna Barnes because those are what I've seen (as well as five guest appearances on "Maverick" and a brief role in John Wayne's "The War Wagon," for which he was her guest on "Dateline: Hollywood" for an entire week in 1967. A most underrated talent, both as actress and author.
It's great seeing Bennett Cerf back as a panelist. I think he would have been on more often, but his health was actually already failing or shortly would according to Gil Fates' book.
Republican Minority Leader Ford thanking Democrat Speaker McCormack and Democrat Majority Leader Albert for their cooperation with Republican President Nixon. Can you imagine hearing something like that today? Ford was a good, decent man.
This was in between the original Match Game and the "new" Match Game (started in 1973). Gene lived in New York, so it was easy for him to be a WML panelist. He commuted to California for the twice monthly for weekend tapings of the new MG.
Back when politics wasn’t so violently oppositional and both sides really cared for the country as a whole. We have never been this insanely divided in memory of anyone I know at 60 years old. I hate the way we are now, and am very ashamed at how we have lost sight as a united people. The election of 2024 has not happened yet but many people predict that within months of the election that we will be a very different country. It’s July now, 2024.
Gene Rayburn's serious incarnation overlapped most of the original WML (both timeframe and NYC). Gene was a DJ on NBC Radio's Monitor, which was the last live nationwide network radio program.
Since Bennett died in August 1971, this had to be before that. Although Bennett's death was sudden (heart attack) and he was ill for only a few days before his death, this could have been as late as the Summer of 71, since taping usually began for the new season in July.
I’m guessing this was late 1969 early 1970. The midi skirts arrived late in 1970 then hot pants had about six months of acceptability. Between 1965 and 1972 you could date fashionably dressed people within a range of one year.
Panel Gene Rayburn- Host of Match Game Brenda Vacarro- Actress and voice of Johnny Bravo's Mama Joanna Barnes- Star of the Original Parent Trap Bennett Cerf- Original WML panelist
After the alligator wrestler segment when the panel was all blindfolded in anticipation, it would have been a real scream if the mystery guest had been the alligator itself.
gorgeous alligator. love the line, "you can't train an alligator..." he should have said if you pull your finger from an alligators mouth that would mean the finger is still in it. all i've been able to ascertain is this is 1969, the american alligator would have been put on the endangered species list in 1967 but not protected until the "endangered species act" of 1973.
+tomitstube and how odd is that a republican (nixon) signed the epa into law the following year (1970)? it's amazing just how radicalized the republican party has become since ronnie ray-gun in 1980. unbelievable really.
18:49 - Sigh. I miss the days when legislators actually worked together and passed bills, even if they had to compromise. And Wally's follow up comment is consistent with the general perception of Gerald Ford: "A very very nice man". He was so respected by the majority Democrats that his was the only name they gave to Nixon when he asked who they wanted to replace Agnew. Too bad he was left in such a horrible situation when he became President.
Wally was wrong. She did not make a product, she provided a service, putting the sticks in Popsicles. John would never have made that mistake! ;>) Mr Cerf put him right, though!
How on EARTH... did we ever regress as a society ..from having persons as intelligent and accomplished as Gerald R. Ford in Congress... to Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez??
The early 70's version of this show was nowhere near as good as the original. The mystery guest part of the show was always running out of time before the panel had a chance to guess who it was.I loved the original WML.
An elected official speaking kindly and complimentary about the opposite party. How civil. My, how times have changed.
Not always.
That is why Richard Nixon selected him to replace Spiro T. Agnew as vice president after Agnew resigned in 1973.
Well Gerry Ford happened to be a kind and decent human being. His good character showed.
It's fun seeing Mr. Cerf in color, but I like the old black and white with John Daly much more.
Odd, but somehow Mr Cerf looks the same in color...a classic old gentleman.
The Aphotic Atrocity me too
@Kevin Cox Surprised that Mr.Daly didn't make a return to his long time show.Glad Bennett Cerf did.
I think we quit watching when it changed.
I totally agree .!!!
Just isn't the same without John Daly.
I agree. irreplaceable! !
Agreed, and Dorothy Kilgallen as well. If she was still alive then, I have no doubt she would have been a panelist with Arlene in the colour version. Hell, I'm sure Bennett would have joined as well.
It hasn't been the same since Dorothy's murder.
It's not the same without Dorothy or Arlene either
I just finished Gil Fates' (Producer) book on WML. He makes no bones about it, the daytime 5x a week syndicated show wasn't intended to be the same game.
This is the version of "What's My Line" that I remember but it's funny how these color episodes now have a tacky game show vibe. The originals seemed more like a urbane cocktail party.
You hit the nail on the head. This looks, plays and feels like a game show. The original felt like a bunch of people at a cocktail party in NY society and you were able to peek in on them playing a game.
Yes yes yes yes yes.
Markxxx Oh, you are so correct. If you watch both It's clear that the '50s and '60s panelists had a higher intelligence and base of knowledge. Nooo doubt about it.
It's amazing how the original black and white shows (even though the last two seasons were in color) has aged better than the revival.
While I agree with all of the comments on the original being better, one thing you have to admit, Goodson-Todman were very good at adapting to a changing American mindset. Look at the few surviving "Match Game" episodes from the 1960's vs. those of the 1970's.
I kinda think that Bennett might have been the only one to recognize Ford EVEN without the blindfold on.
Being a publisher,he had more access to the news and public officials.
WML was never the same after Dorothy Kilgallen died. She was a bright lady.
SHE DIDN'T DIE.
SHE WAZ:
(ACTUALLY WRONGFULLY MURDERED)
@@blitzburghbilly7813 Which means that she still died.
@@libertubey2199
SHUT'UP STUPID 👈🏼 .......
To me the way she died seemed like she liked to party a little after every show, may she R.I.P!
It was never the same when broadcast in color
Not the same since John Daly, Arlene Francis and Dorothy Kilgallen.
Personally I would have not run the show in syndication after 1967. I would have kept it in the exact live format it had began with in 1950 until retiring the show in it's 25th year. In Dorothy's situation it was death but the show should have continued at least 6 more years after 1967 with John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis along with Bennett Cerf until his death in 1971. It would have been difficult the last two years after Bennett's death for John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis on the panel. Personally I would have retired the show in 1975 just as I would have done with the Ed Sullivan until the show's 25th anniversary in 1973. Two fantastic shows that ended their long run too soon.
Even my Pop liked Gerald Ford. You are missed, Sir.
Bennett Cerf had aged very well, very well indeed.
No kidding! Amazing!
Yes, he looked about the same as on the older shows.
For some reason, I read your comment in Bennett's voice, haha
I have never seen Cerf in color until now. :O
The final 2 season of the original WML were in color. But the videotapes of those shows weren't preserved. What exists from those years was Mark Goodson's kinescopes from his personal collection, which were shot on B&W film (even though the show was in color).
Observer Guy Thanks for the information, Observer Guy. :)
Observer Guy Do you know if those kinescopes are on youtube to be seen at all?
Bambi Harris They will be (many of them, at least). Check out the What's My Line? where the series is being uploaded chronologically. :)
Reluctant Dragon okay thank you! have a nice day :-)
Mr. Daly would NEVER have allowed the alligator demonstration 😜
Prince Harming Ha! That was their equivalent of “jumping the shark”!
In this case, I can see why he might.
I’m not sure sure
John did have Francis the talking mule on the show
@@shawnmiller4781 - Yes.. Francis the Mule was on the show... but only as a guest, and not to perform.
Such a treat seeing Bennett & Gene Rayburn on the same show. Both were great!! I agree that no one could replace John Daly....not even Bruner, who had a similar news background.
I agree. There is no replacement for Dorothy Kilgallen who died in 1965 and Bennett Cerf who died in 1971 but I would have kept the show running in the exact format live as it had in 1950 with John Daly hosting and Arlene Francis on the panel having someone such as Steve Allen take over Bennett Cerf's spot after Bennett's death and Phyllis Newman in Dorothy Kilgallen's spot after her death the remainder of the show run until its 25th anniversary and end of run in 1975. Soupy Sales added in 1967 until end of run in 1975. Colour added in 1965 as had with the Ed Sullivan Show.
Ford is the only president I got to meet in person. I got to shake his hand when I was 7 years old.👍
He was the only one I ever saw live; his re-election campaign came to my hometown to the mall less than a mile from my house.
I had the opportunity to meet him at a Pro am golf tournament after he left office
I love this show and I just came across it like less than a month ago. I love most J. Daly as host and A. Francis, D. Kilgallen & B. Cerf as panel.
Cerf’s hated Dorothy because she was so much smarter than him and he had nothing good to say about her even though she was dead in his oral history recorded interview at Columbia. you can read the transcript. It’s over 1000 pages because he was never one to shy about talking about himself.
When Ford won his congressional district election in 1972, he planned on it being his last election and he was going to retire from public service after 1974. Plans definitely played out much different for him, and the nation will always be indebted.....he was the right man at the right time.
Yes he was that. It was not easy as his wife Bette struggled with public persona and the turn of events put her smack in the spotlight.
Aww, Bennett was a cute old man.
He looks the same, eternally young. RIP
Bennett made a good point that the product (popsicle sticks) are NOT eaten. I wonder how John Daly would have handled that? I think he might not have let it slip through in the first pace.
Great point. I think he would have clarified that what she carried out was a service. She wasn't involved in either the manufacturing of the treats nor the sticks, but operated conditions by which they were inserted (if my understanding is correct). She was also involved in the creating of the product "in a general sense".
They had Bennett Cerf, Gerald Ford,. and an alligator on the same stage. =lawz= The insurance underwriters must have sweated cold pellets.
Wow, it is SO weird seeing Bennett Cerf in colour along with Arlene!!
This was back in the day when a politician of either major political party would be respectfully welcomed, whenever they would appear on a show such as WML. I am happy that I can clearly recall those days - something sadly lacking today.
Maybe some of the people to whom you subscribe are to blame
@@MrMatteNWk Huh? Please elaborate.
Bennett Cerf never aged
When asked if he was in sports, Ford should have answered "Not any more". He was an All-American football player at Michigan and had offers to play in the NFL. But in those days (1930's), pro football didn't pay all that well, so he accepted a scholarship to Yale Law School instead (he also was an assistant football coach while at Yale).
I don't believe he was an All-American, although he played in the East West Shrine Game.
He was a model in his time away from law school... in those days, suits and other formal business wear were a much bigger deal than they are in today's USA. He was even part-owner of a modeling agency for years (not the Ford Agency... that was Eileen Ford's baby, and her husband Jerry was no relation to Gerald).
17:26 Bennett asking about his old pal John Daly is just so sweet.
Anybody that’s ever watched many WML reruns with open eyes has figured out that Cerf will do anything to get more camera time. He should be fond of John Charles Daly because he allowed him to plug his publishing company constantly.
Love that Bennett asked about his lifelong friend John C. Daly ☺️
These days on Buzzr, the opening part with Johnny Olsen introducing the first member of the panel and the rest introducing themselves are all cut out and begins with Larry Blyden entering the studio. They also fade out as the contestant gets up from the chair and greets the panel. Oh well--I guess we're lucky to have any form of this in 2020.
This version is entertaining( the original is better , though) but the music is a bit excessive.
Amen about the music...could it be any more annoying???
That would be the 70’s
I miss Bennett Cerf, may he RIP.
As well as everyone else born in the 1800s.
@@ThePlankton5165 People were terrific back then!!!!!
I’m pretty sure the thousands of people that Cerf scammed out of millions of dollars with his “famous writers school” scam muss their money more than they miss him
Gerald Ford epitomized class, a commodity that’s becoming more and more rare in politics these days, regardless of party.
steeveomatic Agreed. I remember how vicious the Democrats were toward him, calling him dumb, and a “plodder”. Look up Lyndon Johnson’s quote about him.
@@jaredjlinden I remember how much he was made fun of. Then at his funeral, they spoke so well of him. He was smart with class.
he took part in the charade known as the _Warren Commission._
@@googoo-gjoob LBJ blackmailed him into that
@@ferdinandthecrow , wouldnt surprise me
Good to see Bennett Cerf again. Sorry that John Daly was not hosting the show. The show in Black and White always had the panelists in formal dress as well as John Charles Daly which provided class to the show where the color version was informal. Liked the Black and White version better. The background music was also informal. I do not believe John Daly would have approved the new format. I do miss all the old panelists.
The time filler at the end was a little clumsy and embarrassing. Also, two screw ups by Wally: 1. Popsickle sticks are not eaten. 2. Asked Bennett a question during time filler segment, and did not give him chance to answer it.
When WML was revived as a weekday syndicated show, it was shot during the day, twice a week, 5 shows per taping, two weeks a month. This conflicted with Bennett's business schedule and speaking tours. But he still tried to squeeze in a taping session, whenever his schedule allowed, until his death.
He had to keep appearing. How else was he going to be able to brag about where he vacationed recently?
Very poor production. Rushed through games so they could a guy wrestle alligators and then questions for the panel about what they are doing, (here come the plugs).. The elegant atmosphere of the original show went out the window with the garish set.
Jerry was a great man, he was an every day guy cast into power that he never pursued .
The theme song has a "I Dream of Jeannie" sound to it.
Jackie Phillips LOL... yeah..it does actually
Most game shows in that era did...Match Game, The Dating Game, the Newlywed Game, etc. I think most of them had also been Goodson-Todman productions, come to think of it...
The show title font too.
I didn't even know they made colour versions of this show ----should bring it back. -ha ha. a great show
Everyone would be googling...
“Are you connected with sports?” Answer: “No,” says a former football player.
He was no longer playing so it would send to reason the he would say no.
Little did they know that a future President was among them.
Marc Sonnenberg Jimmy Carter (then Governor of Georgia) also appeared on a What's My Line? episode.
18 years and they never increased the prize money? That's a shame.
I went in the military in 1974 Nixon was President for about a week then we had a new Commander in Chief Gerald R Ford. Very decent man I always believed if he had an extra week of campaigning he would of beat Carter his momentum was on the upswing that final week.
So the episodes changed with the times. It was a typical morning show. So what? I accept these as time capsules. It was still fun and no need to beat up on Wally Bruno.
After all, Arlene and Bennett often asked for guests to perform. Perhaps the producers took that into consideration. All in all Bennet Cerf was just a charming and intelligent man. No matter the era. RIP Bennett.
Ps I once interviewed Brenda Vaccaro on the set of Airport ‘77. She was energetic, funny and charming too. It was a fun interview!
Absolutely. Times change. I find them fun and enjoy the demonstrations!
They don't make them like Mr Ford anymore, RIP sir !!
Oh, they still make plenty of corrupt Republicans like Mr. Ford. Look closer.
B&W WML > COLOR WML.
Good to see Bennett though sadly you can see how rough he looked here close to the end of his life...
+Bear P
Your screen must have better resolution than mine. Other than walking slower, Bennett seems to be doing rather well.
+YouzTube99 I agree. I thought Bennett looked pretty damn healthy. Imagine anyone these days being employed to put sticks in popsicles? I'd be driven mad with that job after about 10 minutes...
He goes on in Heaven.
Ehh gawd, an occupation where you put sticks in popsicles. That must suck, no pung intended.
Brenda Vaccaro was not only an actress in films, tv series, and broadway plays, she was also a voice actress in The Jetsons, The Critic, Johnny Bravo, Summer Camp Island and other shows.
where the heck was wally bruner for 20 plus years when he was astonished how well bennet cerf played the game.
Poor alligator 🙁
I love the old black snd white shoes with Arlene, Dorothy, snd Bennet, love John Charles Daley! They were so funny and respectful, beautiful clothes, best show ever
The show lost a TON when Dorothy Kilgallen was gone. Even with our angel Arlene it was not as good as before with DK.
Bruner asks Cerf an important question then doesn't answer it saying they don't have time and then engages in mindless banter which was all the time Cerf would have needed. A sign of the dysfunctional '70s and the inferiority of Wally Bruner. Sad to see in retrospect the degradation of society from when you were born (the late '50s) to the '70s. Really quite sad to see the greased downward slope society in general had now found itself on.
Cerf saidsomething that kind of explains what you said - all the panelists had full time jobs and were professionals, while some of the later panelists may have been famous for a while, but really weren’t doing anything now. That kind of made sense to me. Look at Arlene. She was always performing in plays, having to learn her lines, her brain always “on” as it were. Bennett constantly worked with professional businessmen. Hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
The alligator wrestler was impressive! Gatorland in the Orlando area is something to behold! Go in the morning!
Not very impressive wrestling a young alligator. It's like he's being abusive to this animal
Wow! Jerry Ford before he became Vice President. A lot of history in this show!
Nice, to see Bennett Cerf-and, Wally Bruner, the host, with whom I grew up, as a viewer. Having viewed, now, numerous episodes of the John Daly incarnation, I find I prefer it. I concur, with its description, as put forward by tomchris60, three years ago.
Wow! This was a cool episode! The Native American alligator wrestler was the best!
I knew the Fords in Northern Virginia. A very nice family including Mr. Ford.
+NetCerpher I''m from NoVa! :D
+NetCerpher Did they happen to live in the area?
thank you thank you for finding the whole episode and posting it;'
Somebody asked who Joanna Barnes is. She's best known as Brian Keith's girlfriend in the original "Parent Trap" and the girls' grandmother in the remake. She also played Peter Falk's ex-wife on the short-lived but critically-acclaimed "Trials of O'Brien" in 1965-66 and hosted a short-lived daytime talk show, "Dateline: Hollywood," in 1967. She's also a writer; she used to write a newspaper column, "Touching Home," and has written some romance novels. I could easily have seen her taking Dorothy's chair on the Sunday-night show but "O'Brien" was in production when Dorothy passed away.
For those who don't think the syndicated show was as good as the network version, while I tend to agree, Gil Fates and Bob Bach wanted to make the daytime show more informal, with the panel dressed more casually and the sorts of demonstrations that characterized "I've Got A Secret." The idea of demonstrations was something John Daly refused to have any part of, and it would have been difficult to get the panel involved what with their formal attire. I do like Larry Blyden as host of the daytime show better than I do Wally Bruner, who I think was simply trying to copy Daly's mannerisms.
Joanna is best in Auntie Mame as the WASP from Connecticut.
Was also in "Spartacus" and played Jane in the weak 1959 remake of "Tarzan The Ape Man".
She was also in the comedy movie "Goodbye Charlie ", which also starred Tony Curtis and Debbie Reynolds.
I preferred Larry Blyden too. Wally took over question answering far more than John did I feel like telling him to shush a lot lol.
Bennett cerf seemed like he had a really nice attitude
Who could have known that this man would become Vice President and then President in such a short time -- without having been elected to either office!
And 4 years later he was appointed vice-president and he became president a few months after that
that Bennett Serf was sharp as a tack
"Cerf", not "Serf".
Gerald R. Ford, a good and decent man.
RIP all celebrities in this video who are no longer with us including former President Ford. Condolences to all families :-(
Brenda Vaccaro is the only one here still alive.
werid not seeing soupy sales or arlene francis not there but great to see gene rayburn on the pannel
To Joseph Kearny, I think a lot of critics and those who've seen the 1958 Rosalind Russell version of "Auntie Mame" would agree with you. I just tend to think mainly of "The Parent Trap" and "Trials of O'Brien" when I think of Joanna Barnes because those are what I've seen (as well as five guest appearances on "Maverick" and a brief role in John Wayne's "The War Wagon," for which he was her guest on "Dateline: Hollywood" for an entire week in 1967. A most underrated talent, both as actress and author.
It's great seeing Bennett Cerf back as a panelist. I think he would have been on more often, but his health was actually already failing or shortly would according to Gil Fates' book.
Gene: "Do you like Nachos?"
Brenda: "Do you like football?"
Republican Minority Leader Ford thanking Democrat Speaker McCormack and Democrat Majority Leader Albert for their cooperation with Republican President Nixon. Can you imagine hearing something like that today? Ford was a good, decent man.
Really cool seeing Ford before his presidency
This was in between the original Match Game and the "new" Match Game (started in 1973). Gene lived in New York, so it was easy for him to be a WML panelist. He commuted to California for the twice monthly for weekend tapings of the new MG.
I think putting sticks in popsicles would qualify as a product AND a service.
Back when politics wasn’t so violently oppositional and both sides really cared for the country as a whole. We have never been this insanely divided in memory of anyone I know at 60 years old. I hate the way we are now, and am very ashamed at how we have lost sight as a united people. The election of 2024 has not happened yet but many people predict that within months of the election that we will be a very different country. It’s July now, 2024.
The Parent Trap! Such a fun actress as the “evil” gf to the dad. Fun seeing her laughing side here on the panel.
I can't imagine any US Congressman today getting a unanimous applause form a studio audience. Sad.
"Are you in the entertainment field?"
"No, not really." - What do you mean "not really"? That should be a solid no.
WOW OK KOOL,
GENE RAYBURN and BENNETT CERF
ON THE SAME PANEL .......
Gene Rayburn also appeared in a few later episodes of What's My Line from the B&W era with Bennett.
Gene Rayburn's serious incarnation overlapped most of the original WML (both timeframe and NYC). Gene was a DJ on NBC Radio's Monitor, which was the last live nationwide network radio program.
Since Bennett died in August 1971, this had to be before that. Although Bennett's death was sudden (heart attack) and he was ill for only a few days before his death, this could have been as late as the Summer of 71, since taping usually began for the new season in July.
This was 1969
He was on this show several times before he died. So if this is his first appearance in the new one it had to be much earlier than 71.
@@jacquelinebell6201This was 1969 !
I’m guessing this was late 1969 early 1970. The midi skirts arrived late in 1970 then hot pants had about six months of acceptability. Between 1965 and 1972 you could date fashionably dressed people within a range of one year.
Wow, little did Gerald Ford know what was in store for him in the future!
Brenda Vacarro and Joanna Barnes. Stunning :-)
This was right before Nixon appointed Ford as Agnew's replacement. EVERYTHING changed so radically for Ford so soon after this show aired!
Panel
Gene Rayburn- Host of Match Game
Brenda Vacarro- Actress and voice of Johnny Bravo's Mama
Joanna Barnes- Star of the Original Parent Trap
Bennett Cerf- Original WML panelist
Popsicles are not popsicles without the stick. So Bennett's objection is invalid. John Daly would have not taken that guff.
Wow. This version is awkward. Very amateurish - too forced and the moderator wasn't too sharp.
Wally Bruner is a jerk! I like John Daly a lot better.
But did the original show stop to wrestle an alligator? (Ha!)
Wally Bruner had absolutely no personality.
After the alligator wrestler segment when the panel was all blindfolded in anticipation, it would have been a real scream if the mystery guest had been the alligator itself.
Watching Brenda Vaccaro is like seeing Bunny Bravo in real life
"not a democRAT?"
I have never felt pity for an alligator before!
An alligator wrestler? I've heard of some dangerous occupations, but geez!
What a shame that Arlene wasn't present for this episode.
gorgeous alligator. love the line, "you can't train an alligator..." he should have said if you pull your finger from an alligators mouth that would mean the finger is still in it. all i've been able to ascertain is this is 1969, the american alligator would have been put on the endangered species list in 1967 but not protected until the "endangered species act" of 1973.
+tomitstube and how odd is that a republican (nixon) signed the epa into law the following year (1970)? it's amazing just how radicalized the republican party has become since ronnie ray-gun in 1980. unbelievable really.
18:49 - Sigh. I miss the days when legislators actually worked together and passed bills, even if they had to compromise.
And Wally's follow up comment is consistent with the general perception of Gerald Ford: "A very very nice man". He was so respected by the majority Democrats that his was the only name they gave to Nixon when he asked who they wanted to replace Agnew. Too bad he was left in such a horrible situation when he became President.
RIP Bennett Cerf
RIP Wally Bruner
RIP Gene Rayburn
RIP Gerald Ford
RIP Joanna Barnes
Joanna Barnes just passed away Odd BCerf and no AFrancis next to him
Wally was wrong. She did not make a product, she provided a service, putting the sticks in Popsicles. John would never have made that mistake! ;>) Mr Cerf put him right, though!
omg those baby doll dresses....
Happy Heavenly Birthday, Gerald Ford! I'm sure you had no idea at this time that you would be succeeding Richard Nixon as President.
How on EARTH... did we ever regress as a society ..from having persons as intelligent and accomplished as Gerald R. Ford in Congress... to Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez??
@@LearnAboutFlow Low blow.
@@LearnAboutFlow HOW RUDE!!!
@@LearnAboutFlow I wish I knew why you are so angry. The comments you made about me are untrue.
The early 70's version of this show was nowhere near as good as the original. The mystery guest part of the show was always running out of time before the panel had a chance to guess who it was.I loved the original WML.