Russian Gen 2+ (PN-14K) vs US Gen 3 (Omni 5) night vision comparison
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2020
- Ekran-FEP EPM221G-00-11A Gen 2+ in the PN-14K housing compared with an ITT Omni V thin film aviation tube in a Chinese Daking (NVM-14) housing. Overall, the US Gen 3 does unsurprisingly outperform the Russian Gen 2+; but will it give total and absolute tactical dominance over the latter in most conditions? Probably not.
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That pn 14k is actually perfectly usable
Great video, thanks for sharing! The two tubes look similar in the brighter portion of the residence, but in that dark hallway the US Gen3 really pulls ahead.
Gen 3 is way brighter
The camera problaby makes both of them a bit worse than they really are
Gain knob beothaaaa
Do you have a link where to buy them?
Where did you order those?
What it doesn’t see that much more. The detail is vastly different. Just showing basic shapes is y going to help that much at ranges of 100 meters when identifying targets.
Awesome thanks alot mate! How is the fov on the ruskis? Same as a pvs 14? The website states 36 degrees while a pvs 14 states 40.
Thanks again.
PN-14K should be 40. The PNN-14M is the one with a 36 FOV.
@@hypemilitaria6447 Thanks so much for your reply, I'm thinking of buying russian gen 2+ tubes which arent autogated, how important would that be? Would i be able to pass street lights, shoot a gun etc with a non autogated unit? Thank you and merry xmas.
@@leelotungal819 Yup. Pretty much all Gen 2 tubes after the very first ones have bright source protection. BSP basically reduces voltage to photocathode to turn sensitivity down to protect the tube. This also works in conjunction with automatic gain control which reduces gain. Street lights, gunfire should be no issue; the tubes are for military application and have to withstand those things after all.
I wonder if this is what agm global is using as they use gen 2 plus tubes in most of their nvg’s
im wondering the same thing, i just ordered one and im waiting for its arrival once it arrives ill reply to this comment with info
Yup. Does appear that way. Don't think any of AGM's stuff is made in the US. They source their PVS-14 housings from OE in Israel and very likely Gen 2+ tubes from Russia.
@@hypemilitaria6447no. It's random. You could get Elbit tubes. Or PHOTONIS
@@hypemilitaria6447I think Also high spec NNVT too
Isn't the outdoor visibility range of gen 3 about 3-4 times bigger?
In my experience, no. Most gen 3 will pull ahead of the common gen 2+ in very low light (NL5 moonless overcast), but the useful detection and identification range of manpower isn't that much better.
Care to at least provide even a tiny bit of information as to why you think the opposite? Do you think it's a little better, a lot better and depending on what environmental conditions and ambient lighting etc?
Interesting that he misses the box with the Gen 2 + but then sees it with Gen 3, while it IS visible with the Gen 2+, chances of missing it and tripping over it are greater than the Gen 3.
So how much better does gen 2+ look in real life like much better or you can just notice it and is the sharpness better in real life and is it brighter in real life
Gen 2+ will produce more noise with very little ambient light compared to Gen 3 from what I've seen so far.
How is the pn14k vs pn10T if you have an idea ?
The PN-14K should be a lot better. The PNV-10T uses a EPM53G-V tube that has quite disappointing specs; the EPM221G in the PN-21K has twice the sensitivity, much higher SNR, better resolution and slightly more gain.
In your opinion, is the extra cost worth buying the gen 3? For example, imagine someone stole your NVGs and you need to buy another. Would you buy the gen 3 or save a few bucks and get the gen 2?
It really depends. Personally, I've used anything from Gen 1 to Omni VIII Gen 3 and I would say for civilians, a Gen 2+ with >20SNR, >50lp/mm, >20k fL/fc gain would be sufficient for basically any situation you'll find yourself in. But if you truly want high-end performance, I'd recommend better Gen 2+ (Photonis Echo) or any of the thin-film Gen 3s. We are now in an age where Gen 2+ is outperforming older Gen 3 and giving modern thin films a good run for their money.
Depends how much use and how hard you wanna put it through. But if youre a filthy casual, gen 2+ is perfect for civilian use.
Please tell how to record direct scope
Hold phone to night vision
I didn't about the light source
Just about to get a PVS-5. Been paying off a Gen2+ unit, NVM-14 (WP) and about to start paying for a gen 3 PVS-14. The costs are starting to bite. Like seriously, I need to stop buying these.
My world had been turned upside down - it seems like gen 3 is better than 2. Thanks for the enlightment.
If that is Russian gen 2,what does Russian gen 3 look like?
There is none . They dont have nothing better they cant make it . They are far behind americans in everything
@@Looord11 ... what?
@@CodyBi Same with tube quality when it comes to night vision. American Gen 2/3 is better than both Euro and Russian Gen 2/3
@@dprov1877 in russia the propaganda is the biggest thing they dont even have a serial production of for example tank t14 armata and yet they are saying to the world they have the best tank. They are promoting trought they propaganda everything and you think if they have such a good night vision they are secred about it ? That is nonsense
@@Looord11 Russia is secretive about everything they do...they don't like showing their cards all too often, the Russian Federation doesn't even release government budgets related to military spending. Why wouldn't Russian military have gen 3 nightvision optics? What's the point in NOT acquiring gen 3 optics...makes no sense. The T-14 Armata is going into serial production in 2022 so they didn't really lie, they've just had delays as per usual same with all their other equipment for their ground forces.
Alot of people are posting these types of videos, but it should be known that this could be in violation of ITAR (Intermation Traffic of Arms Regulation) which not only prohibits US manufactured NVG devices to be sold outside the US, but also prohibits allowing foreign entities from looking through said device. I haven't heard of anyone being jammed up over it, but becareful.
Stop talking shiiii. It's completely legal. Many companies in Europe are allowed to import ITAR Items such as Elbit and l3 Tubes/NVG's