Just popped up I'm my deal here. No one says anything about how bad ass the batteries are. I'm in TEXAS and we go from 105 to 25. My 98' 12V always starts. It's almost the difference between a carburetor and fuel injection when talking about mechanical injection vs electronic. My tuck will always start (maybe hard to get going but still goes). Electronic starts easier if everything is perfect no matter the temps (1 thing wrong and your dead in the water). I.E. not enough voltage to run the ECM and the starter. Fun videos!
@@JimmyCasket02 isnt it bad for a diesel to leave it idling for long periods of time? Edit: Yes i know its extremely cold and sometimes a necessity dont give me shit lmao
@Jax & @AnyOthersThisCouldApplyToo LOL....you might get the police called on your for noise violation starting it....so a possible scenario is you get into truck, lock doors, and crank it to piss off neighbors, one of them calls cops, they are sent for noise violation and bango....u are saved!!!!!! Do as Dory would do...Just Keep Crankin'....Just keep Crankin'..... P.S.....glad you got her started!
@@ShinerBockGirlz The bad part about your comment is, that I dont live in the city and the noise violations are practically nullified as one of my neighbors has a group show up with custom cars with mostly Chevy big blocks with straight pipes. But if I lived in the city it would be completely plausible. Even though I'm a pro gun guy and he would never live to see the end of my property if he broke into my home. Wait was your reply for the guy that made the first comment?
I want an older Ram Diesel, you just don't get this type of experience anymore with newer cars/trucks. This truly is a bonding moment with your vehicle.
nope. i used to have to do this everyday all winter long.......and glad i can remote start in my house........much better than going out and messing around for 5-10 minutes just to start the truck
Its a pretty common thing to do, actually. The oe solenoids go out often in the rust belt. In my case the wire wad lose on the solenoid and it wasnt kicking on. Also it was around -25F not -10F.
I've got a 93 F250 w/ 7.3 idi. Love it. I like the old 12v Rams too. The 7.3 idi's and 12v's have a nice distinctive sound unlike the newer turbo units.
@@JacobEcret light throttle is best not full. And grid heater the living shit out of it when it’s below 10f. Any remotely healthy 12v will pop right off then
This one normally does too. It was actually much colder than -10.. That was a guess. Was somewhere around -20-25. This truck has #0 fuel plate, banks twin ram intake, exhaust, 4k springs. Otherwise stock.
Ether is not your friend! I found a gas rag or a shot of WD-40 worked everytime. During my career as a tractor mechanic I seen too much carnage from using ether. Broken cranks, busted pistons, bent rods. Even have one ford tractor blow a cylinder liner into the crankcase in pieces......I always told customers if you find a can of ether in my shop I'll give you $20.00, Lol.....
I have a 2001 24v and I can't wait to do a low temperature cold start with no block heater use. Only problem is that southwest Missouri doesn't get that cold
Save a Starter, plugging the block heater in last night might have helped. I have a battery trickle charger with heating pad plug too. The Toyota 5.7 liter requires the engine be lifted to remove the starter. I really appreciate the new AGM Batteries, strong batteries great for off-roading, Walmart brand Everstart Platinum AGM batteries are the best for the price.
I usually use my block heater. If I don’t with the Ford I cycle the lye fr about a minute or so. Turn it off, cycle for about another 30 seconds and it starts up after about 4 rotations. Of course it doesn’t get that cold where I am.
So with the grid heater on a momentary switch, once the truck starts up, it won’t cycle by itself correct? As factory intended? I’d personally look into putting it back on its own circuit
Please make more cold starts. Show us what you’re doing with the throttle next time. I’m having a hard time starting my N14 and it seems to like being pumped
guyfrommybox I’ve been a subscriber for a long time! I trust you and that’s why I’m asking for guidance. Please show us what you’re doing with the throttle pedal on everything you start :-)
@@owenhaynes5968 As much as I agree with that statement, I wasn't able to plug it in due to having the power out. I have a battery backup in my house for my server computers and it can only run a few things, lights, fridge, computers, and a small heater for around 30 hours. So plugging the truck in would have depleted much faster.
Have you tried pushing the throttle half way down and when it starts let off the throttle? Just found that out after watching Chryslers informational video on the 12 valve cummins
Mines starts pretty good in the cold. But never starts even warm by just turning the key. I have to bump the throttle while turning it over. Seems common with a modded 12v. And no the idle is not set to low.
This is the first winter I've had a 1997 12 valve in my Chevy truck. It doesn't have a grid heater because the engine was in an industrial application. The pump is tuned for 230HP and it's making 600ft lbs of torque. It just hit -15° here and I expected a really hard start. But it started instantly like a gas engine. I've never had to give it any throttle. Maybe I'm just lucky. Although I know the Cummins that are making BIG power can be hard to start.
That was quick. But yeah I daily a 383. It's cold as fuck right now and it fires up one roll. Takes forever to get to 180 and as soon as I drive it drops to 165 average but it runs. Gas fur lyfe lol
A bit of research in a 1940s book on Diesels confirmed today startability is all about compression index, which considers compression ratio and propensity to dissipate heat in the charge mass due to contact or not with large surface area of swirl chambers etc if present in predicting charge temperature at the point of fuel injection . This is why direct injection engines usually start easily in cold weather.
It’s very rare for it to snow below 0 degrees Fahrenheit and extremely unlikely for it to snow below -10 degrees Fahrenheit. Because at those temperatures there is very little moisture in the atmosphere. If this man is telling the truth that heavy snowfall is a dam miracle.
@@supernova8715 I love Manuel's they have more torque than autos but autos have more boost and less drag resistance. But by far old school is the best.
at least the old girl probly built some oil presure before she came to life... should have had the camera on the oil preasure gage lol those old 12v are tough..
Had plenty of time to build oil pressure. I found out later the injection timing was incorrect for the injector and delivery valves that were in it. Once i set it correctly it pops off first crank.
@@guyfrommybox i had the same thing when i turned my 97 up , had to tweek the timing. i know about cold starts , i live in montana..thanks for posting the vid
Factory they cycle when the "wait to start" light is on. The shuts off and thats when you crank it. If it did the grid heater while you cranked itd kill your batteries pretty quick. And yes thats a 6.9L. I have videos on it too. Subscribe. Ill have 471 detroit 2 cycle diesel videos soon.
Oh, she looks like a skookum choocher there, aye.
Mike Stocks You wander over from the AvE side of CZcams, wa?
@@AbramsDelta20 I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm just sitting over here with my dick in a vice.
AVE much ?
@@Angelraya Lol. Exactly what I thought.
Mike Stocks If you show me yer rough and tumblers I’ll slip you a Canada gooser if you know what I mean
This usually happens when you wake up late for work
Curt Kramer happened to me a couple weeks ago and burnt up the starter
@psykotikoutlaw gf7jjkkkkkk
One of the trucks I drive at work is a '97 freightliner FL60 with a 5.9 cummins, she don't like canadian winters at ALL lol
😂yep been there done that
Yeah it happened to me with my 5.9 cummins. Spark plugs burnt out so had to replace them.
*Starter has left the chat*
Haha. 260k and still the original starter!
Not with those outside temps keeping it cool, and sub-optimal battery conditions
Diesel starters are built to withstand hard starts
This bitch has a Honda Civic motor as a starter
Just popped up I'm my deal here. No one says anything about how bad ass the batteries are. I'm in TEXAS and we go from 105 to 25. My 98' 12V always starts. It's almost the difference between a carburetor and fuel injection when talking about mechanical injection vs electronic. My tuck will always start (maybe hard to get going but still goes). Electronic starts easier if everything is perfect no matter the temps (1 thing wrong and your dead in the water). I.E. not enough voltage to run the ECM and the starter. Fun videos!
respect for the battery and starter
You should probably just leave her idling until spring LOL
Its only this cold a couple weeks of the year. Plus i plug them in normally, but couldnt this day.
😂
Lmao!
I’ve actually left my truck running for 3 days before because it was so damn cold haha
@@JimmyCasket02 isnt it bad for a diesel to leave it idling for long periods of time?
Edit: Yes i know its extremely cold and sometimes a necessity dont give me shit lmao
Dodge Ram Cummins 12v.
The official vehicle of "Im getting up early, so the rest of the neighbourhood's joining me." 💀
If someone were trying to kill me and it was cold out and the only vehicle I had was a diesel I might as well just run.
Pretty much.
Hahaha word 😂
Well mine starts first try in 50 below weather in minnesota
@Jax & @AnyOthersThisCouldApplyToo LOL....you might get the police called on your for noise violation starting it....so a possible scenario is you get into truck, lock doors, and crank it to piss off neighbors, one of them calls cops, they are sent for noise violation and bango....u are saved!!!!!! Do as Dory would do...Just Keep Crankin'....Just keep Crankin'.....
P.S.....glad you got her started!
@@ShinerBockGirlz
The bad part about your comment is, that I dont live in the city and the noise violations are practically nullified as one of my neighbors has a group show up with custom cars with mostly Chevy big blocks with straight pipes. But if I lived in the city it would be completely plausible. Even though I'm a pro gun guy and he would never live to see the end of my property if he broke into my home.
Wait was your reply for the guy that made the first comment?
Jeez, I would hate to be the guy sneaking out of the girls house at 4am while Dads sleeping.
Park a mile away
Nolan Mitchell gonna need a bit more than a mile 🤣
💀💀💀
I did that lol it was -15 air temp. Thank god I drive a duramax. She fired right up
😂😂😂
I want an older Ram Diesel, you just don't get this type of experience anymore with newer cars/trucks. This truly is a bonding moment with your vehicle.
You can have all these "experiences" you want, no thanks for me.
nope. i used to have to do this everyday all winter long.......and glad i can remote start in my house........much better than going out and messing around for 5-10 minutes just to start the truck
And a good one at that
🤣🤣
expertsupersam19 why didn’t you plug her in?
Starter:
Cummins:I'm about to end this mans whole career
Lmao
The pine tree air fresheners were the only reason it started.
Probably didn’t start well because it needs new spark plugs
Correct.
😂
🤦♂️
😂
And blinker fluid! Most important.
Once I heard “Grid heater on a button” I knew I was in for a treat!!!
Its a pretty common thing to do, actually. The oe solenoids go out often in the rust belt. In my case the wire wad lose on the solenoid and it wasnt kicking on. Also it was around -25F not -10F.
Amen, I got the popcorn and got ready for a show
That’s a damn good battery in that.
Well there's 2
2 damn good batteries
Nice to see a proper cold start on here, most people live in a state where they never see snow and call 10C cold start. Props from Canada haha
Turn on the closed captioning. When the truck is trying to start it says “laughing” and “applause”. Lol
AHHHHHH lol. That's funny. Hearing impaired must be so lost
Ahhhhhh I love the sound of the old 12 valve Cummins
That's the best cold start video I've seen,it was actually snowing in the truck!
I've got a 93 F250 w/ 7.3 idi. Love it. I like the old 12v Rams too. The 7.3 idi's and 12v's have a nice distinctive sound unlike the newer turbo units.
The idi just sounds like a gas motor at high rpm’s lol still sounds good tho
You got yourself a gorgeous truck my friend 👍🏽
When the truck started it said music. It is music to my ears
Nice truck man. If my 12 valves don't pop right off I keep on the grid heater until they do. Also helps to give them a little throttle to get started.
@@JacobEcret light throttle is best not full. And grid heater the living shit out of it when it’s below 10f. Any remotely healthy 12v will pop right off then
RIP starter
Cranked my freightliner like that for nearly six years and never had an issue
Their built to handle this
Noah Ranker they’re*
Milk Parker stfu troll
Noah Ranker go learn 2nd grade english
Damn. Sounds like trying to cold start a carbureted big block😂😂
No matter what the temp my 12 valve fires up literally after rotating once. My new injectors and 3k gsk probably helps.
This one normally does too. It was actually much colder than -10.. That was a guess. Was somewhere around -20-25. This truck has #0 fuel plate, banks twin ram intake, exhaust, 4k springs. Otherwise stock.
Got yourself some good batteries haha. I daily a 24v in the northern states so I feel your pain.
Love the back bumper,someone hits ya there going to feel it
I love these 12 valves
mmmmmmmmmm. love the cranking :)
Man, this reminds me of my 6.2L high school days... If it got too cold, I would just pull the glow plug wires and use a shot of ether.
We use silicone aerosol lube. Less likely to blow your eye brows off.
Ether is not your friend! I found a gas rag or a shot of WD-40 worked everytime. During my career as a tractor mechanic I seen too much carnage from using ether. Broken cranks, busted pistons, bent rods. Even have one ford tractor blow a cylinder liner into the crankcase in pieces......I always told customers if you find a can of ether in my shop I'll give you $20.00, Lol.....
I have a 2001 24v and I can't wait to do a low temperature cold start with no block heater use. Only problem is that southwest Missouri doesn't get that cold
If you didn't have the grid heater on a momentary switch and was functioning as factory, probably would have started on first try.
Grad heater wasnt even hooked up i found out. Thats why i was hearing the clicking.
@@guyfrommybox I figured the heater wasn't working. I had a 1996 12 valve and all I had to do was cycle it about 4 times and it would start.
I think its needs more cowbell.
Correct
It could really use more cow bell!
Croiseeman ahaa fuck yes it does
Those are some dang good batteries
Damn right. Good ol interstate
Wow that was hard to watch but Very impressed with the battery and starter
Living in Finland that is called a "start" :D
You know I looked up average and low temps for Finland winters, and its not much colder than us.
Well, the winters in Winnipeg are not heard of then.
@@AlexBrar_ winnipeg winters aint bad. About the same as ours. Little colder. Not much.
@Global Threat We've had -40 celcius couple winters I live closer to the north pole than you do.
@Global Threat Been there tried that.
12 valve and aaron watson 🤙🏻
American power never fails
I love the mechanical diesel starts ❤
Save a Starter, plugging the block heater in last night might have helped. I have a battery trickle charger with heating pad plug too. The Toyota 5.7 liter requires the engine be lifted to remove the starter. I really appreciate the new AGM Batteries, strong batteries great for off-roading, Walmart brand Everstart Platinum AGM batteries are the best for the price.
Read the other comments.. Couldn't plug it in that day.
lmao i be having the worst anxiety watching these videos and i know this but i keep watching these videos
You said it. Block heater. I plug mine in if it's below freezing if for no other reason my windshield defrosts faster.
I've wanted an old truck like this for years but holy hell they're not giving them away.
I sold this one cheap at 4500.
@@guyfrommybox the only good condition one in my area is a really nice 93 2500 with 180k on it and the guy wants 10 grand for it.
@Pleasantly Rusty looks into the cost of a clean straight truck.
Just beautiful
This is what nightmares are made of..... someone is chasing you with a knife and your run to start your truck ....ahhhhhhhhhh
Love the old pine tree air freshener
Gotta love 12 valves
I usually use my block heater. If I don’t with the Ford I cycle the lye fr about a minute or so. Turn it off, cycle for about another 30 seconds and it starts up after about 4 rotations. Of course it doesn’t get that cold where I am.
So with the grid heater on a momentary switch, once the truck starts up, it won’t cycle by itself correct? As factory intended? I’d personally look into putting it back on its own circuit
Correct. The origonal owner had it hooked up all janky. I fixed it and it starts a lot better.
Sounds like mine after I do a fuel filter change on my 24v!!!!
That's one grumpy 12 valve Cummins I have never seen a 12 valve start that hard at -10
Bad timing will do that
It's that time of year again.
Kelcey K sadly yes.
Sweet ole girl bud! 👍
Trucks perfect for making quick getaways
Please make more cold starts. Show us what you’re doing with the throttle next time. I’m having a hard time starting my N14 and it seems to like being pumped
Will do. Go ahead and subscribe and ill put another out soon! I can make one starting a few big trucks with Cats and maybe an N14
go ahead and give it near full throttle when you start it cold. They need the fuel. I am just matting my throttle.
guyfrommybox I’ve been a subscriber for a long time! I trust you and that’s why I’m asking for guidance. Please show us what you’re doing with the throttle pedal on everything you start :-)
guyfrommybox also, try pumping it a little. For some reason, unexplainable by myself, it starts faster when I do.
@@gearhead9943 pedal was full tilt!
that super is legit!
What?
Good ole 12v!!!
Lol been there bro -20 windchill in Michigan and not plugged in those suckers don’t wanna start
Pete Pete Pumkineat Windchill means nothing for inanimate objects.
That old Ford would have dialed right to life!
Check out my other videos 😁
Might think next time to plug it up !
People enjoy watching diesel trucks struggle to start up so they don’t plug in the heater.
@@owenhaynes5968 As much as I agree with that statement, I wasn't able to plug it in due to having the power out. I have a battery backup in my house for my server computers and it can only run a few things, lights, fridge, computers, and a small heater for around 30 hours. So plugging the truck in would have depleted much faster.
In the video you say , that’s what you get for,not plugging it in.
Imagine being his neighbors hahaha fun video btw
You got summer fuel and 30 weight oil in there man?
That’s what happens when you say stuff like should be no problem.
Have you tried pushing the throttle half way down and when it starts let off the throttle? Just found that out after watching Chryslers informational video on the 12 valve cummins
Yes.
Mines starts pretty good in the cold. But never starts even warm by just turning the key. I have to bump the throttle while turning it over. Seems common with a modded 12v. And no the idle is not set to low.
This is the first winter I've had a 1997 12 valve in my Chevy truck. It doesn't have a grid heater because the engine was in an industrial application. The pump is tuned for 230HP and it's making 600ft lbs of torque. It just hit -15° here and I expected a really hard start. But it started instantly like a gas engine. I've never had to give it any throttle. Maybe I'm just lucky. Although I know the Cummins that are making BIG power can be hard to start.
Sounds like me at 4am waking up lol
SBC will fire right up 😎
I would hope.
That was quick. But yeah I daily a 383. It's cold as fuck right now and it fires up one roll. Takes forever to get to 180 and as soon as I drive it drops to 165 average but it runs. Gas fur lyfe lol
Good on you to lay it off when it needs to be Mayes off.
So this is where Jurassic park got their Raptor sounds from 🤔😂😂
Correct. I still get loyalties
A bit of research in a 1940s book on Diesels confirmed today startability is all about compression index, which considers compression ratio and propensity to dissipate heat in the charge mass due to contact or not with large surface area of swirl chambers etc if present in predicting charge temperature at the point of fuel injection . This is why direct injection engines usually start easily in cold weather.
This truck normally starts right up above 0F. Under that its a crap shoot
Very much like starting my old 2 smoke on my boat .
Just like it, but different.
My Ford PowerStroke V8 starts like a champ.
Snowing at -25? That’s really strange
Aint it.
It’s very rare for it to snow below 0 degrees Fahrenheit and extremely unlikely for it to snow below -10 degrees Fahrenheit. Because at those temperatures there is very little moisture in the atmosphere. If this man is telling the truth that heavy snowfall is a dam miracle.
I agree there with you been in the north north with my 2 7.3s and they start better that thing
It would be nice if that thing is manual transmission
Manuals are slower. Autos keep boost up. My F450 is a 6.0 6 speed.
@@guyfrommybox i really dont care about the top speed or 0 - 60 stuff i just want to control my gearing haha
@@supernova8715 spoken like a practical person
@@supernova8715 I love Manuel's they have more torque than autos but autos have more boost and less drag resistance. But by far old school is the best.
My 2001 24v never failed to fire up after 2 or 3 grid heater cycles even in weather that cold.
Are those 35s on ur stock 16s
Easiest way to piss off your neighbors. 😂
This is my 7.3 to a T in 60°f weather!
Ha! Yeah my obs has some issues too.
Is your grid heater functioning? My 99 had no issues in minus temps. Slightly slower cranking but nothing like this.
No grid heater. Found out it was loose on the relay it was rigged to.
I bet you are very popular with the neighbors
They have loud old diesels too..
@@guyfrommybox that sounds awesome to live near your neighbors
Guess you better have damn good batteries! Lol
Gotta pump the gas. But be careful don't wanna flood it.
This is a diesel...
Mike Johnson awkward....
what your does truck idles at??
Oh I love the smell of diesel in the winter the colder the better the smell, was that ford a diesel as well.
Yes it is. Subscribe and youll see more videos of it. I have a few up.
Is it weak at -95? On my mitsubishi l200 in -104 starts up.
What did he say give it some more grid heater? Never heard of that what is he talking about? Thanks.
What is the mpg on your truck cause I’m 15 and thinking of buying a 96 ram 2500 w/ 12 valve Cummins
With some minor mods, exhaust, intake, etc. You can get high teens and even in the low 20s. This one on 35s ans go fast stuff did around 15
Is it worth the wear tho when you can plugger in? I don’t start my truck unless the oil temp is above 50 F.
Was unable to plug it in that day.
I wonder if a pull start is installable
you would need the hulk to pull start a engine like that.
you can get a spring starter for it
at least the old girl probly built some oil presure before she came to life... should have had the camera on the oil preasure gage lol those old 12v are tough..
Had plenty of time to build oil pressure. I found out later the injection timing was incorrect for the injector and delivery valves that were in it. Once i set it correctly it pops off first crank.
@@guyfrommybox i had the same thing when i turned my 97 up , had to tweek the timing. i know about cold starts , i live in montana..thanks for posting the vid
Shit my starter cant be in worse shape I felt bad but now I'm glad I dont live up north
Its what theyre made for. 250k miles, original michigan truck with the factory starter
Wow🤩
was that model year even equipped with a fuel heater? if so you need to fix it and I also have a block heater installed
Yes. The trucks came with fuel heaters. It has a block heater. Couldnt plug in because ppwer was out. Fuel heaters dont do much for cold starts.
You better give those batteries a pat on the ass cid
They're dirty. They love the beating
At 0.50 seconds in what's that button your pressing?
Isn't the frid heater supposed to be running when you crank? It's not like glow plugs. Also that must be early 1998 to be a 12v.
Factory they cycle when the "wait to start" light is on. The shuts off and thats when you crank it. If it did the grid heater while you cranked itd kill your batteries pretty quick. And yes thats a 6.9L. I have videos on it too. Subscribe. Ill have 471 detroit 2 cycle diesel videos soon.
Not a bad idea to plug in the block heater the night before to help start up on a cold day like that 🧐
Like the other 300 comments. Power was out, couldnt plug it in.
Maybe need new glow plugs. Swapped out glow plugs and it made a huge difference on cold starts. Night and day
Cummins don't have glow plugs. They have an intake heater, but they don't do much.
Thats when a heater plug isnt a bad idea
Advanced timing?
Yes.