Predator 301cc 8HP misleading information
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2020
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Thanks for watching. I needed an engine to replace a broken one and this Predator 8HP was the best price however I almost returned it. There is some misleading information on it that you need to know especially if you want to use this engine.
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Shout out to Harbor Freight for assuring him that they’ll take it back if things weren’t right. Good customer service.
Yes you're absolutely right about that. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Harber Freight actually has two engines the same size but made at differant plants. One has hemi head on the piston and the other doesn't. There are some other tiny differences but overall same eng.
thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Yep, the one with the oval head is the non hemi, the rectangle head is the hemi. Both are decent engines. I run a 212 non hemi on my Troybilt tilller, 420 hemi with stage one kit on my Sears Suburban garden tractor.
I wonder how one has a hemi head on a piston? that's misleading in its own.
@@NopitunertvThey make these engines non hemi and hemi head. The hemi head is better for low rpm range, the non hemi works at a higher rpm range, they make these at two different plants because of tooling in the plant. That way they have to keep re - tooling to build the next batch.
Really wise of you to go through the manual.... cheers
It was my last resort really luckily it worked out.
I've been considering buying one of these and have been looking at reviews and stumbled across this video, thanks for the information.
No problem. This is a great engine. I've had no problems with it
Thanks for the review. I bought an old chipper for $100 at an estate sale with a B&S 8 HP on it. I ran the crap out of it for a year and it has now died. I think I will go grab one of these to put on it.
thank you Bob Sundquist. I think it's a very good choice
I replaced the B&S 8hp on a 30 year old Troy Bilt with this 301. Modified a plate and brace system for support. Works great.
Lack of documentation is a huge barrier to entry for lots of projects. Odds are someone somewhere has done what you're trying to do or struggled with the same thing but never documented it so others don't have to go through it.
yes you are correct, in this case it almost stopped the project before it even started
Thanks for the info. Was considering this engine to replace one on a snow blower.
no problem you really can't go wrong with these
I'm installing tbis engine on my 4x2 gator with a 780 comet cvt clutch. Thanks for the info.
No problem
Yooooooo…… 🤦🏽♂️ ive been looking for this bolt for 3 days already and now searching for so long i found this video.🙏🏽THANK YOU SOO MUCH! Lmao.
Glad I could help
You sir, are a lifesaver. Thanks a lot.
no problem
I go to a lot of flea markets and yard sells I buy a lot of mismatched bolts and screws I put it in assorted cabinet I have called the $30,000 box I call it that because instead of running to the hardware store 2or 3 times to try to find one bolt I've always got one in there they will fit anything little screws all the way up to pretty big bolts sometimes I have to do a little bit of cleaning on some of the bolts when I get them but I alwayssook them in w40 and put them away just remember if you trow it away you'll look for it later.
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it. I might have to try that.
Your illiteracy is scary.
The go-kart forums show the crank bolt thread is 24 UNF, which is the old version as of 2013, and some versions of the engine used 18 thread, but today's version is 20. Next time keep a big assortment of various spare bolts in your garage so you don't have to delay projects, meaning, when in doubt, try various old lawn mower crank and mounting bolts to determine what you need.
Thank you for the information. It was just time consuming trying to find the old bolt.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Well, if you haven't had enough trips to the local hardware store, there's always next time. :D
My motto for working on multiple use items is either I got what I need, I'll get it or , I'll make it. Having foreign bolt sizes or nuts that you don't have on hand, will strike fear in the hearts of most home do it yourselfers. I've given up on believing everything will fit without some creative wizardry.,,
that's a great motto I appreciate it
HF does have some misleading information on their motors. i noticed it on their pressure washers but at the end of the day
they are good motors and the price is not too bad. years ago their prices were much more attractive.so you could overlook this type of information or false advertisement but not anymore.their new policy of the last few years with regard to increasing prices, reducing the coupons and limits on what coupons can be used on is making many old customers to look elsewhere.
You are absolutely correct about that.
I know in my car which runs the 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine I ordered an aftermarket timing chain cover seal & gasket kit which came with the rear main oil seal instead of the front one,it was also supposed to come with an oil pump pickup tube O ring as well,I'm pretty sure it was for the water pump.
I needed to replace the gasket as it was leaking oil & I needed to remove the oil pump as I decided to throw a new timing chain & sprocket kit into it, note I bought all the parts on eBay,it didn't match the picture at all.
I needed the kit straight away so I ordered the front crankshaft oil seal & oil pickup tube O ring separate & genuine,now this is where the interesting part comes in,I was sent a genuine front seal for a 3.6 litre V6 engine,not a 5.7 litre LS1 V8 engine,the ID of the seal I was sent was 50mm & the OD was 70mm,it was supposed to be an ID of 54mm & an OD of 72mm.
I didn't open the package to check,the seal fitted loosely in the front timing cover while it was still in the bag,so I ordered the correct seal from someone else & sent the V6 seal back for a refund.
The engine hasn't leaked a drop of oil for 13 months now so it pays to check what you buy online off eBay, etc !
Thank you for the comment Russell Booth. Glad it worked out for you.
A lot of the stuff that you see on eBay you should not go with the pictures it's really important that you know your engine and especially the engine number A lot of times you should buy your stuff off Amazon the prime pays for itself I know a lot of stuff is cheaper on eBay but that's for a reason Amazon has a no crap money Guaranty back with all your stuff even if you bought the wrong thing they'll have the next one out to you as soon as they can
what size bolts to mount this motor the 4 holes around the shaft I can't find the info anywhere
for some reason i can't find the information either and i don't remember. i'll look around again and see if i can find it.
Nice, your that guy that reads manuals. I never met one!
it was out of desperation to be honest. The info on the box was lying to me!
I had the exact same problem yesterday. Got it handled but now I can’t seem to find the 5/16-24UNF-2B. Went to ace hardware and now leaving tractor supply company to no avail.. any input?
did you get the 212 cc engine? Is that the bolt information from the box or from the manual?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE no I got the 301
I know the 212cc has a 5/16-24 so maybe that's where the typo was made.
its a huge typo
Enjoy it while you can, before the governor goes out. It will.
what exactly happens to the governor on these engines?
Anyone repower a 2001 Troy Bilt Horse with this Predator 301cc? I'm curious about the longer shaft length being a problem.
I've been trying to get a 212 for MONTHS! I'm so tired of all these shortages. about to get a briggs snow engine and pray it doesn't blow.
I know right, I can't find 212's or even the lawn mower engine vertical shaft either. have you considered getting the 301 instead?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE An alternative would be eBay. may not be a Honda clone be there is a lot of cheap NOS engines. The 301 is out of my price range. it's going on a 1980 Toro 421.
I held on to my 212 hemi for a while cause I knew there would be a shortage
very smart of you.
Where you shopping? Im buying them all day. Also know most shaft bolts are sae on the predators
Hey how fast have you got this engine to go ?
As far as RPM, stock governed speed -3200 3600 RPM. it's not suggested to over rev the engine as the stock connecting rod might break
Forget buying Predators at Harbor Freight. They're all out of stock.
Really? I wasn't aware. Might have to take a look. Thanks for the information.
Don't you fucking say that! Goonies never say die!!
I just ordered a Duromax 7hp because HF has been out of stock for a month here.
@@whiters1992 I know this is the first I've seen too
@@whiters1992 I saw a post from a 3 wheeler FB group, a guy ordered 3 Duromax engines in a row and every one was damaged in shipping. I don't know where he was ordering from. I'm not familiar with those engines. I say to hell with them all and go with Briggs and Stratton USA made.
I’m more concerned with the valve cover difference between engine and box photo. I don’t want the center bolt valve cover engine. I want the valve cover as your engine has. How can I be sure if the correct engine?
Honestly I would ask to open the box at the store to be sure.
I have the same engine in my go cart and the pull string broke how do I fix?!
Sorry I haven't broken my rope yet so I don't have a video yet.
but do you think it is because it is all art mud and stuff?
Didn’t mean art
@@jay2vlidd it's a possibility. The other would be how your pulling the rope. I never use a full pull on the rope. I've seen lots of people pull the rope to full extension.
INSIDE HOUSE GARAGE oh ok
You have a hemi version buddy. Non hemi has smaller valve cover
thanks
That is a shame that the mis print on the outside of the carton did not match the paper work needless to.say it,s not your fault great thing is you found the paper work was correct
Thank you Robert Mailhos for the comment I appreciate it
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE any time young man
Do you think it would have the same mounting holes as a predator 212 would
do you mean the bottom mount or the side mount on the shaft?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE on bottom of engine four mount holes
what size is the shaft on the motor
1"
If you look at the box you will also see that this engine is rated at 10 hp, not 8 hp.
maybe I'm blind, but I didn't see where it says it's 10 hp. Besides if you go to Harbor Freights website this engine is rated at only 8 hp. I hope I'm wrong because I wouldn't mind the extra power.
How come you got the 301 cc than the 212
shaft size, 301 has the 1" shaft while the 212 has the smaller size. The impeller is originally designed to work with the bigger shaft.
WHATS THAT THING ON THE CRANK CALLED
THE ZIPTIED PART
@@johnhanrahan9047 the woodruff key
Every one I have bought will run great for a few months, then the engine will start to surge, then it'll stop running.
are you keeping gas in the tank? and is it high octane and no ethanol?
They screwed you bro sold you a picture of a hemispheric motor on a box and gave you the standard predator 301 that's how they get u
I know right, the pics are just a representation no the actual
lmaooo same on the 212 ther isa hemi and non hemi versin thats y the valves were different
Never home
Thanks man
Boooooooo
No sorry but no 😕
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it