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  • @Kragatar
    @Kragatar Před 5 lety +319

    So at first I thought the Ibanez sounded better, but then I tried closing my eyes, skipping ahead in the video, and seeing if I could guess which one I was hearing. I was like "oh yeah, that's definitely the Ibanez. Much clearer and crisper". ...opened my eyes and it was the Behringer.

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 5 lety +57

      the ears always know!

    • @JayTheLane
      @JayTheLane Před 2 lety +11

      Confirmation bias affects us all 😂

  • @zasmrcaveman5725
    @zasmrcaveman5725 Před 6 lety +1265

    I was eating cap’n crunch while watching this, so everything sounds crunchy to me.

    • @deanmccaskill5495
      @deanmccaskill5495 Před 6 lety +2

      Z ASMR Caveman totaly my faveorite food. Ive been living of it for weeks.

    • @kennywowie
      @kennywowie Před 6 lety +6

      couple more weeks and you'll be dying on it. Pure vein clog. i know, I grew up on the stuff. Fair warning.

    • @jackclarkson1672
      @jackclarkson1672 Před 6 lety +1

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........

    • @Albee213
      @Albee213 Před 5 lety +4

      4 realz, I am eating Honey Nut Cherioes and this made me crack up.

    • @isdaaatrite
      @isdaaatrite Před 5 lety +2

      I just took the stinkiest shit watching this. CRUNCHY!

  • @rawr_turtle8265
    @rawr_turtle8265 Před 5 lety +77

    I love how you compare cheap vs expensive for us who are on a budget! Honestly, I'm a penny-pincher at heart, and this makes me extremely happy! Thank you so much Marty! Much love!

  • @phildale8451
    @phildale8451 Před 6 lety +701

    This guitar snobbery thing is getting out of control. When I first started playing in the late 70's I can't recall any of this. You learnt to play on what you had and it didn't matter. Now everyone slates cheap gear to make themselves feel better for spending £500 on a pedal that sounds like the £20 model. Strange world we live in. Nice demo Marty and Happy New Year.

    • @rochat
      @rochat Před 6 lety +50

      Phil Dale - No kidding. The cork sniffing is out of hand and I swear people just repeat other nonsense they've heard online from other people without a clue.

    • @justinbowlin8723
      @justinbowlin8723 Před 6 lety +22

      I agree with you to an extent.....especially at churches, holy cow those worship guitarists are the primary contributors to this boutique gear boom. However, I will say that part of what led to all this modern day cork sniffing is simply the fact that there are WAY more options available, and way more info. Plus, you know....marketing. Just the nature of the free market. Also, I think the quality of affordable and widely available gear was better in the 70s. In today's market, there is a lot of junk to sift through. Furthermore, I'd like to point out that the guy making this vid is playing an expensive guitar and amplifier. So he clearly has a preference for the high end stuff.

    • @hammondsphoto
      @hammondsphoto Před 6 lety +7

      I've two Ibanez Tubescreamers, an Ammoon 'Vintage Overdrive', a Moorer Green Mile, maybe a couple of TS-style drives. And they all did the 'tubescreamer thing.' I just plugged 'em in and used them. Sounded fine. Only thing I'd say about the original is the Ibanez models are tough and well made so if you're going on a big tough tour that's maybe the biggest reason to buy those.

    • @yhonicoalamch5351
      @yhonicoalamch5351 Před 6 lety +20

      because it's hurt knowing that your £500 pedal sounds like the £20 model, lol

    • @davecarpenter7266
      @davecarpenter7266 Před 6 lety +8

      Phil Dale it's bull. People buy B big to look good not sound good. Snobs

  • @mikep6263
    @mikep6263 Před rokem +19

    I learned long ago not to dismiss cheap gear. In the 80's, I found a "no-brand" flanger that I picked up used for a fistful of dollars. I'm primarily a bass player and I used it to get a chorus effect on my fretless. It sounds fantastic. These days it's being held together with duct tape and super glue, but it sill works. Always give cheap gear a fair shot when looking for new stuff--you might be surprised sometimes.

  • @GONZOFAM7
    @GONZOFAM7 Před 6 lety +412

    I saw that pedal is $20 new. Electronic components are inexpensive, pennies for the resistors, caps and transistors, amp chip probably a buck in volume. The difference is likely in the build quality, plastic vs metal case and the screen printing of the name. Then how they wired it both in cheap labor overseas factories. Put the Behringer electronics in a metal case and call it the "Marty Scream box" and people will say it is the best pedal ever and way better than that inexpensive Behringer pedal. hahaha. Great video Marty thanks.

    • @arnyarny77
      @arnyarny77 Před 6 lety +7

      even the metal case is not much at all in reality!

    • @ulricclayton3428
      @ulricclayton3428 Před 6 lety

      Jaime Gonzalez Also, the Behringer is digital, which makes quite a difference in price

    • @ulricclayton3428
      @ulricclayton3428 Před 6 lety +1

      Jonathan Roark I didn't know that, I opened a Behringer chorus enclosure and it was digital, so I thought they were all digital

    • @DeadShred9
      @DeadShred9 Před 6 lety +2

      By cheap replace the chip with a higher output chip save bunches of money theres videos all over CZcams on modding pedals . I had a ARIA Chorus cheap plastic sounded horrible . It had a chorus and stereo chorus out . Replaced the chip and its fantastic and part of my board even since ...

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 Před 6 lety +2

      The 4558 IC that's found in most of these overdrive pedals are like 50 cents individually, so probably a quarter or so each in bulk.

  • @72spawndn
    @72spawndn Před 5 lety +160

    TO800's will now sell for $120. Thanks marty!

    • @_shmoo922
      @_shmoo922 Před 4 lety +6

      they sell for about $40 actually lol

    • @larrywolfson2231
      @larrywolfson2231 Před 4 lety +4

      No, The TO800 is available new for $25 retail. It is based on the 808. Now finding a TO100 is a bit harder, which is based on TS9, but just found one new for 30 bucks. Now the VT999 Vintage Tone Monster is about 100 bucks used, but it has a Tube and once you replace with a good one, wow. Also the VT991 based on the Chandler overdrive (like what David Gilmour used on DSOTMoon). Runs about 60-70 bucks. All sound pretty good IMO. Some of the Behringers are hard to find for sure like the Ultra Octaver (based on the Boss OC-2), still looking for this one at a reasonable price.

    • @a_random_user_1510
      @a_random_user_1510 Před 3 lety

      I'm not suprised

    • @howalk1505
      @howalk1505 Před 3 lety +3

      What, its sell for $23

    • @elijahcook1698
      @elijahcook1698 Před 3 lety +1

      They're $19 as of now at sweetwater

  • @coldwar1977
    @coldwar1977 Před 6 lety +1125

    great player + cheap pedal = great sound
    crappy player + expensive pedal = crappy sound

  • @phazzrc
    @phazzrc Před 6 lety +53

    I Personally have the 10$ one and it’s really nice. But I really can’t tell the difference from the 100+ Dollar one that you played on this video and the one I have. So you can save a lot of money.... Wow..... Love your channel. Good luck!

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 Před 6 lety +186

    For $10 bucks that sounded great. I just got a new Lace Sensor Blue/Red Dually that splits from humbucker to blue single coil to red single coil on a Amazon sale of only $45.00 Can., they are regular $120.00. There are some great deals out there if you do some searching. Thanks for doing this Marty, look forward to more.

    • @rayross997
      @rayross997 Před 6 lety

      Just J , thanks for your comment, I actually thought about that, but they did turn out to be the real thing. Maybe the price was a mistake, it was only up for an hour or so, but they sold it for an extreme low price, not long after they jumped to 120.00.

    • @dogfacedboy6947
      @dogfacedboy6947 Před 6 lety

      My all-time fave setup is a (real) Lawrence L500 PU in the brige, wired up with it's OWN four-way telecaster type switch. Front coil, back coil,serries, parallel. A single coil on the Lawrence sound a LOT like a decent Tele bridge PU. The magic stuff happens when you use another regular 2-PU selector to mix a neck Strat PU with various bits of the Lawrence, separate V's on each.

    • @carlosmatos9848
      @carlosmatos9848 Před 6 lety +1

      The Behringer pedals are pretty decent for the price. I have their cs400 sustainer/compressor and I've got plenty of use out of it.

    • @YosbelOropeza
      @YosbelOropeza Před 6 lety +3

      sounds exact the same!!!!! identical sound

    • @carlosmatos9848
      @carlosmatos9848 Před 6 lety

      Yeah the Monkey is a great pedal. It does a decent classic-rock crunch straight into a clean amp with the gain all the way up and it really excels at getting a good tight rhythm tone for the chugga chugga palm muted stuff. It doesn't have all the versatility of some of the higher end pedals, but it does sound just as good.

  • @Sparky6string
    @Sparky6string Před 4 lety +10

    Any perceived difference in sound would come down to the individual specifications of the actual parts. I have both and whenever I think there's a difference I adjust knobs and find out different. The tone- it's in there.
    I prefer the Behringer OD300 however.

  • @jeffpotts6187
    @jeffpotts6187 Před 6 lety +100

    Tubescreamer had more of a high-end presence than the Behringer. However, for $90.00 less, I'll turn the knob to the right a hair to compensate...
    I have a bunch of Behringer pedals. I love 'em. Not what I'd call super road-worthy, but slap them on a pedal board with a programmable looper, and they really don't have to be.

    • @dzamija922
      @dzamija922 Před 6 lety +1

      How will your looper protect the pedal from breaking? oO

    • @jeffpotts6187
      @jeffpotts6187 Před 6 lety +10

      You're stomping the looper, not the pedal.

    • @dzamija922
      @dzamija922 Před 6 lety

      Jeff Potts Oh, I thought you were talking about a phrase looper

    • @mattflickinger8151
      @mattflickinger8151 Před 6 lety +1

      That "high end presence" is the top end fizzyness you get with cheap pedals. Get to gig volume and you will notice the difference in clarity.

    • @nonperson9825
      @nonperson9825 Před 6 lety +6

      Jeff Potts they r good. Theres a behringer compression/sustain thats way better than my expensive ones. They make decent digital reverb. I have some orange behringer fuzz that sounds like insane electric demons destroying ur amp n brain

  • @mrcoconut9205
    @mrcoconut9205 Před 6 lety +152

    Surprisingly didn't notice a different between the two :0

    • @OceanViewMusic2000
      @OceanViewMusic2000 Před 4 lety +7

      Part of the price difference comes from the build quality of the pedals, but I've never owned a Behringer pedal so I don't know how long they last.

    • @TheWolvesCurse
      @TheWolvesCurse Před 4 lety +3

      behringer usually does a 1to1 copy of the cirquitry of the pedals they try to emulate. so there's usually very little difference between the original and the behringer copy.

    • @theguynamedgio
      @theguynamedgio Před 4 lety +4

      thats because the are sonically identical. most companies buy their chip sets from behringer since they own and manufacture some of the most popular chips in the market, particularly their bucket brigade analog chips. found in their chorus/vibrarto and tremelo as well as their delay. i cant say anything bad about them. some people will say that they will break because the casing is plastic, ive owned a few for over ten years now and they work the same as they did day one. if anyone says its less reliable because its plastic, just remind them that glocs are make of plastic and those are designed to be used and take punishment.... just like these pedals. honestly i highly recommend their overdrive and their chorus both are amazing.

    • @thanasios1000
      @thanasios1000 Před 3 lety +3

      Right, there's no difference. I got both in my home. Even Behringer is same to ts808 they sound the same

    • @thanasios1000
      @thanasios1000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@OceanViewMusic2000 Logicaly the metsl last loger than plastic, the ts 808 have metal box.
      The electronics ate exactly the same.
      I know some things about electronics and believe me they are the same thing.
      Everybody admit that.
      Now for the plastic box, i never seen a broken one, and i an 59 years old..
      Very smal difference may you find, it does not matter if it will be forvthe worst or the better. Resistors, capasitors got a toilerance that makes then behave little differently. But this does not mean which will be better, they are just a little different.
      OK, we feel better to have the expencive one, but nothing to do with sound quality.

  • @davecarpenter7266
    @davecarpenter7266 Před 6 lety +5

    I saw Seasick Steve live once and after a display of some of his crazy guitars he said "you don't need expensive shit to sound good, you just need to know how to make the best out of what you have"
    I've lived by that rule ever since.

    • @neoaureus
      @neoaureus Před 2 lety

      ….absolutely true. Till you play an Elite Telecaster…. Then it’s lives in your brain and eats it! Where I live import duties are 30 to 42 % on music instruments..plus local profits…AND exchange rate…so a 1000 dollar guitar is lo and behold 1600 or so! Bless the place you live too….

  • @caljohn88
    @caljohn88 Před 4 lety +20

    3:15 Lets hear what the tube creamer ;) sounds like.

    • @Ratchman_5000
      @Ratchman_5000 Před 3 lety +3

      I have to say it... "that's what she said!"

  • @LiveToPlayGuitar
    @LiveToPlayGuitar Před 5 lety +5

    I’ve had a TO800 for a very long time along with other overdrives (I collect them)...I dropped the TO800 and it cracked in two...I put back together with duct tape and to my surprise it worked (lol)...I still put on my board from time to time both as an overdrive or as a boost pedal...It really is a very useable overdrive pedal...just be prepared to defend your honor for using a Behringer pedal at a gig...🎸🔊🎶🤘🏻

    • @ericleon6482
      @ericleon6482 Před 2 lety

      That´s actually what I like about Behringers, in case you drop it and break it, one can just easily get another one and that´s another $20, I mean, you do the math and you can buy 4 or 5 Behringers for the price of one Ts9. No brainer.

  • @christosmeitanis6896
    @christosmeitanis6896 Před 3 lety +8

    I have the behringer. It sound "dirtier" which is what I am looking for apart from a boost. It is a really nice pedal and of you feel like you need a boost either for some cleans or to really tighten up your amp (or even blend amp gain with pedal gain) I would suggest the behringer

  • @brandonwrightmusic
    @brandonwrightmusic Před 4 lety +18

    So plug the guitar into coffee and it makes distortion?
    I'm sorry I wasn't really paying attention

  • @charlesmascari8197
    @charlesmascari8197 Před 5 lety +18

    Don't forget the Behringer is modeled after the Ibanez 808, not the TS-9.

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 Před 4 lety +12

      Go watch the Wampler video where he compares the 808 to the TS9. _NOBODY_ could hear a difference. All the bollocks people say about them like "ooh the TS9 is brighter and has more gain" is basically complete BS

    • @thanasios1000
      @thanasios1000 Před 3 lety +2

      Behringer makew two ibanez cnones, the TO800 which is ts808 andTO100 wich is ts9.

  • @Joey.Boogie
    @Joey.Boogie Před 5 lety +91

    3:45 - Oh dear God, for the sake of my OCD, please actually point all the Tube Screamer settings to 12 o clock and not 11:58 and 12:03.

    • @joeturnip4216
      @joeturnip4216 Před 4 lety +4

      I haven't slept for two nights since I saw that discrepancy. OCD is Real People.......

    • @michaelclayton3990
      @michaelclayton3990 Před 4 lety +10

      When your said OCD i was just thibking of the overdrive pedal 😅

    • @pandapancakes37
      @pandapancakes37 Před 4 lety +3

      @@michaelclayton3990 same lol

    • @Wtfdawg321
      @Wtfdawg321 Před 4 lety +1

      Same, lol

    • @rajeshhkkapoor8549
      @rajeshhkkapoor8549 Před 4 lety +2

      That irked me too.... thought I was the only one pissed off about it.... sloppy Joe marty

  • @jaredhermans8478
    @jaredhermans8478 Před 6 lety +394

    I have $5

  • @frooke2
    @frooke2 Před 6 lety +1067

    There are people out there dumb enough to pay $10 for a cup of coffee?

    • @christianwhitmore4753
      @christianwhitmore4753 Před 6 lety +66

      It dont even cost me 10 bucks for a whole can of coffee which lasts me a month

    • @kawaspresso3228
      @kawaspresso3228 Před 6 lety +19

      I can have 10 cups of coffee for $10, don't go to Starbucks.

    • @carbonlux9966
      @carbonlux9966 Před 6 lety

      Frank Wolf Me!!! Lol.

    • @napkinshoplifta5163
      @napkinshoplifta5163 Před 6 lety +4

      S T A R B U C K S👌

    • @BoltRM
      @BoltRM Před 6 lety +16

      He said "a couple cups of coffee or maybe 1 depending on where you get it". Case dismissed.

  • @Arcturian1111
    @Arcturian1111 Před 3 lety +15

    Sweetwater has the Behringer TO800 on sale today for $19. January 8 2021.

    • @nicklebac6753
      @nicklebac6753 Před 3 lety +2

      Bought 3 Behringer pedals 🙏🏽🤘

    • @ricktermolen6328
      @ricktermolen6328 Před 3 lety +1

      Can't beat it. I ordered 4. This one, chorus, fuzz, and metal. $80 and I can make some sweet sounds.

    • @rabidgp
      @rabidgp Před 3 lety

      I grabbed 6 and a wah for 163.00, finally shipped!

    • @storm14k
      @storm14k Před 3 lety

      It's July 3rd 2021 and I just came from their site and it's still $19. Think I'm going to get one. I'm just a hobbyist learning and experimenting for myself. Glad to see I can emulate sounds for little to nothing.

  • @TheGhostGuitars
    @TheGhostGuitars Před 5 dny

    I have both the Ibanez Tubescreamer and the Behringer TS clone. I use both. The Tubescreamer stays home whilst the Behringer goes to jam sessions and my guitar classes. They're functionally identical as far as I'm concerned. BUT the Behringer is lighter and cheaper so IF anything happens to it, it's easy and cheap to replace.

  • @scalywagers3371
    @scalywagers3371 Před 6 lety +72

    Overall, for a 10 dollar pedal, it sounds very well. To me it sounds a bit sketchy to get a pedal at that price, but it sounds like it works well. Thanks Marty for the video!

    • @chuckHart70
      @chuckHart70 Před 6 lety +3

      $19 new.

    • @degrassi420
      @degrassi420 Před 4 lety +1

      Darren Harper thats a lot of beer

    • @pandapancakes37
      @pandapancakes37 Před 4 lety

      @Darren Harper lol😂

    • @sparkyguitar0058
      @sparkyguitar0058 Před 3 lety

      I got a used modded Rocktek 6 band EQ for $16. It's plastic and I use for my bass setup. Over 2 yrs ago and I'm thoroughly convinced it was worth.

  • @MFPick
    @MFPick Před 5 lety +16

    Sounds great. We're living in an age of very affordable guitar and gear.

  • @kevinmichaelgreen1162
    @kevinmichaelgreen1162 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi, I thought that the Behringer sounded clearer when you played chords on the clean boost setting. Thanks for the demo, Kev

  • @edoors
    @edoors Před 3 lety +5

    I loved the clean boost tip you just gave us. I'll try to use this on my set instead of buying a boost pedal.

  • @michaelbuckner9846
    @michaelbuckner9846 Před 4 lety +10

    $10 coffees give me that authentic blues sound. Live the music you breathe ya know

  • @TheAxe4Ever
    @TheAxe4Ever Před 5 lety +18

    Cool video! You know, I’ve always had pretty good luck with some Behringer pedals. Maybe not so much with their digital pedals that copy more expensive digital pedals, not really into digital anyway. But as far as their analog pedals go. Many times they pretty much nail it. I’ve been scoffed at by other guitarists for using the occasional Behringer pedal, ( I hear their little giggling and see them pointing) until I start playing that is. Then they change their tune about the pedals. They’ll actually wind up digging the tone. Don’t worry about being what I call, a “badge whore”. Be smart. Save yourself money and buy the much less expensive ones and just play. You might be pleasantly surprised!

  • @Fuhgitboutit
    @Fuhgitboutit Před 2 lety +17

    It's probably all in my head but for some reason with EVERY comparison like this that I've seen when the more expensive pedal goes on I think the player puts a little more umph in their playing so it ends up sounding better to my ears but really in most cases they are sonically equal not just tube screamers all types of expensive overdrives and their cheaper clones. I think I usually get a clearer idea when someone a/b with a short loop already made. Idk it's still all good stuff!

  • @Bagledog5000
    @Bagledog5000 Před 3 lety

    This video is four years old! It may surprise folks to learn that currently in Japan on Amazon you can get:
    That TS9 for around $84 new.
    That Bheringer for around $59 new.
    The TS mini for about $62 new!!
    Given that the Ibanez pedals do sound better, for the money I'd just as soon pay the extra 3 bucks. I'm actually impressed that the price has stayed so consistently low on the Ibanez pedals. And still made in Japan, nice bonus that. Now if you can find a deal like Marty did for 10 bucks, I'd say go for it, but if you're buying new I'd stick with the Ibanez gear.
    If you've got cash to burn and want every TS model under the sun, the JHS Bonsai is a very good option IMO, and you're supporting American workers when you buy one.

  • @fckstrato
    @fckstrato Před 2 lety +3

    Behringer is so underrated! I have a Hellbabe (WahWah) and I definitely love it, and it sounds very good.

  • @jeffc4862
    @jeffc4862 Před 5 lety +4

    There's a great video that Josh from JHS did talking about Behringer pedals that's worth a watch.

  • @charlesmascari8197
    @charlesmascari8197 Před 4 lety +2

    Marty, I have both those pedals. The TO800 is a TS808 clone. I use the TO800 as a clean boost in front of my TS9. I also use them separately.

  • @QuistJam
    @QuistJam Před 6 lety +22

    Killer work Marty! The ad before this video was you from the GuitarJamz era, so my brain totally did a somersault like WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!?!

  • @bengalvin9932
    @bengalvin9932 Před 6 lety +3

    HEY MARTY! i think a great use for a cheap over drive like this [ $10-$15 ] would be to use it as a MORE switch with you diggy home amp because some of those switchers they sell as an after market product can be really pricey and if all you really want is a switch for a solo tone/boost a cheap pedal like this would save you some money instead of buying one of those after market switches.

  • @KenPryor
    @KenPryor Před 6 lety +29

    I'm really impressed with that $10 pedal. May have to do some shopping.

  • @rey1520
    @rey1520 Před 5 lety +2

    Thats why my pedals are Behringer: distortion/overdrive OD100, vintage tube overdrive and noise supressor NR300.

  • @blaircaines
    @blaircaines Před 5 lety

    At Long & McQuade Music store (Canada) you can buy it for $31.00 but it's out of stock ... on their web site which says, "Out of Stock. Product can be ordered. Delivery from our supplier is usually within 30 business days.
    "

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 Před 6 lety +8

    I just bought a Behringer Model D synthesizer for $300. I don’t want to pay $3000 for Moog Model D, and I haven’t played them side by side, but based on demoes I hear, they are realllly close. Will it be working in 2035? Probably not, but I can just buy another. Also, who wants to lug around a forty pound hand made synthesizer worth thousand of dollars to a gig?

  • @Rustyjamesman
    @Rustyjamesman Před 6 lety +186

    check out donner pedals! they're all around $30-40 and sound really good!

    • @rayross997
      @rayross997 Před 6 lety +11

      Bobby, agree, got a Donner looper inexpensive & works great.

    • @calebsmart4732
      @calebsmart4732 Před 6 lety +1

      Bobby thanks dude!!!

    • @ryanwethington6408
      @ryanwethington6408 Před 6 lety

      Bobby ijhhbjiplkkiijkkklnn kk
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      Yeah well if

    • @forester057
      @forester057 Před 6 lety +1

      Every donner pedal I get hates my donner power brick which is strange. Every donner I try has to have isolated power which is annoying.

    • @jackd.ripper7613
      @jackd.ripper7613 Před 6 lety +7

      Donner pedals are the shit! Inexpensive and built like a brick. They work great and sound great. At $25-$35 bucks each, you can amass a lot of pedals for not a lot of scratch.

  • @treywlp2814
    @treywlp2814 Před 6 lety

    For a beginner or someone who is just looking to play at home, the Behringer pedal isn't bad at all for someone who is on a budget. However, the higher quality TS style pedals are far better for live use due to their smoother sound. One of my bandmates used to use this Behringer pedal, and at bedroom level it was okay, but as soon as we played at gig levels for live performance, it produced a rather harsh sound through a DSL15 as well as my AC15 (we tried on both normal and top boost). Some people might be into that, but we weren't. He ended up replacing the Behringer with an EHX East River Drive, which is a great TS clone for just under $70 that I'd highly recommend.

    • @treywlp2814
      @treywlp2814 Před 6 lety

      I would also like to say: If you're playing through a cheaper solid state amp or a practice amp, you probably won't be able to tell nearly as much of a difference as we could because in the end, the amp is responsible for a majority of your tone. I'd imagine the Behringer pedal might be great to get a bit of dirt on a one channel practice amp.

  • @DennisVernier
    @DennisVernier Před 5 lety

    I replaced an Ibanez Tube Screamer and an Ibanez delay pedal with the Behringer TO 800 and a Behringer delay pedal a few years back after I had a van load of equiptment stolen from beside my house. I have never thought of replacing the Behringer pedals as they work fine and I really can't tell a noticeable difference in the sound of either pedal. Behringer pedals are heavy plastic as opposed to metal but they have held up well and I'm not hard on my equiptment.

  • @guillaumebergeron7622
    @guillaumebergeron7622 Před 5 lety +3

    My first pedal was the vintage tube overdrive. I had alot of fun with it then i got a chorus and digital delay from berrinhger and they sounded pretty good for the buck

  • @jonathanhandsmusic
    @jonathanhandsmusic Před 5 lety +3

    The cheaper one sounds just as good as the TS. I have a Joyo Vintage OD which sounds just as good. The electronic components on these pedals are almost identical.

  • @gamepad3173
    @gamepad3173 Před 2 lety

    on eBay the TO800 will go for $40.00. I'm going to pick one up for my main pedal board. (my TS7 needs some work a faulty micro switch). but the idea is it use it along with the Maxon ROD 881 Real Overdrive Distortion, it's also a boost, and a noise gate as well.

  • @HatchMan3011
    @HatchMan3011 Před 6 lety +1

    Having built a few of these I agree with some of the other comments. The metal base is more durable but the components inside are what's altering the tone. Cheap casing typically betrays cheaper components, but that isn't always the case

  • @bobbyguimond7459
    @bobbyguimond7459 Před 5 lety +3

    Thats simple... when you wanna buy something like that, ask a friend to try pedals while your eyes are closed than choose the one you like the most by its sound. The snob in you should be surprise... The price just doesn't matter when its about a personal sound you're searching.

    • @Nooboroshi
      @Nooboroshi Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly it's music. The ears know better than the eyes. My $200 Squire Tele sounds better to me than my $800 Mexican. In music, eyes will rip you off, ears won't.

    • @bobbyguimond7459
      @bobbyguimond7459 Před 3 lety

      @@Nooboroshi absolutely!

    • @robertoyanezmartinez2128
      @robertoyanezmartinez2128 Před 3 lety

      @@Nooboroshi does it feel better though, you can always replace the electronics

  • @craigmantle5362
    @craigmantle5362 Před 6 lety +4

    Watching Marty play always makes me want to pick up my guitar. Sounding awesome!

    • @karl.weaver
      @karl.weaver Před rokem

      Same here, and I don’t have a guitar!

  • @FrankZen
    @FrankZen Před 5 lety +1

    I buy Behringers to try out effects that I don't normally use and tend to upgrade to pedals with more features. The best deals, however, were the old used DOD/Digitech pedals that were selling in a lot of guitar stores. Don't find as many any more but I got some great effects that way.

  • @WillVRam
    @WillVRam Před 3 lety +1

    1:10 10 dollars, one coffe. Here in Brazil it costs 1/3 of month salary. 10 days of a life working to entirely spend on Behringer pedal.

  • @MrDcseltzer
    @MrDcseltzer Před 4 lety +3

    I own a bunch of Behringer gear. They make and replicate some great products. DeepMind12 is fabulous by the way along with their recreation of Roland analog drum machines. The pedals are just as good. I have a recreation of the Ibanez analog delay and it’s fab. Plastic case yes, but it.s solid. Tube screamer sounds great although I prefer a Boss Super feedbacker and distortion pedal

  • @rossw73
    @rossw73 Před 6 lety +9

    The TO800 is a clone of the TS808. Behringer has a TO100 that is a clone of the TS9. My personal favorite budget friendly OD is the Boss SD-1. Bought it for $30 used and it'll last forever.

    • @KevyNova
      @KevyNova Před 4 lety +1

      I’ve been using the same SD-1 for 30 years. Hundreds of gigs and it may not look pretty anymore but it sounds the same as day one.

  • @johnarick7317
    @johnarick7317 Před 4 lety +1

    I just received my TO800 in the mail today. Sounds great but I paid $29 for mine. Still, way better than $160 for a TS and the differences between two tube screamers can vary as well.

  • @gagaragasti8919
    @gagaragasti8919 Před rokem +2

    The differences are almost unheard, but the ibanez has slightly more body in it. But i don't know if you use the pedals as boosters, while the ibanez surely works well (for me) as a booster pedal.

  • @JamesMartinBass
    @JamesMartinBass Před 6 lety +5

    The Tube Screamer has a little more hair on it, but the TO800 is quite a lot better than I expected it would be. We all have to start somewhere. Great vid, Marty. And great idea for a series of vids comparing affordable pedals with their more expensive cousins.

  • @DN-wb2gy
    @DN-wb2gy Před 3 lety +3

    The brand is the price! Ibanez guitar vs. raw Ibanez guitar without brand-icon at headstock, which one is more attractive and meaningful to you? People judge, so, the more expensive, the more impressive.
    p/s: ofcourse I can't deny the quality comes at the price, but sometimes it does not!

  • @Megadeth1311
    @Megadeth1311 Před 6 lety +1

    i have a lot of different behringer pedals for guitars and basses. ech kost about 20 to 30 euros brand new with shipping. the only thing that sucks is, if you run them on battery, you need a lot of those. there are a lot of better pedals out there, but also a lot of crappier, more expensive stuff, and i think they're great! greetings from bavaria!

  • @inbozz
    @inbozz Před 6 lety

    Another thing to try out when you are testing those stomp boxes is what's called "true bypass" - connect guitar straight to the amp, play a bit, then connect guitar into pedal - into amp. I'm telling you, the Marshall overdrive in the bypass mode just ruins the clean sound so much that it makes you wanna destroy that pedal. )

  • @stratman103
    @stratman103 Před 6 lety +11

    I have like 8 Behringer pedals. They sound great. They're cheap plastic and would break in one gig but they sound great.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 Před 4 lety +4

      I have a few. The plastic isn't cheap. I don't see how a gig would break them unless you're inviting the crowd up onstage to jump on them & kick them around.

    • @joeturnip4216
      @joeturnip4216 Před 4 lety +1

      I'd have to be a Total Cow to break a Behringer in 1 gig.....

  • @mattg629
    @mattg629 Před 3 lety +12

    Uh, just got back from Starbucks. Whad I miss?

  • @sneaky_general
    @sneaky_general Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for playing them as a clean boost. I’m surprised the Behringer sounded that good, but the TS9 was definitely a bit smoother and less harsh.

  • @someonebald2022
    @someonebald2022 Před 6 lety +2

    Behringer stuff is surprisingly good value. Good Bang for Buck.

  • @ryndanriley5348
    @ryndanriley5348 Před 4 lety +3

    Dude from jhs just played this with the original black label first edition 808 and there is no audible difference. Probably because it's the exact same circuit.

  • @madpsychosis8185
    @madpsychosis8185 Před 6 lety +3

    Another Great Video Marty!
    Lately I've been listening to Elton John and I was wondering if you could make a lesson on Tiny Dancer, a great classic!

  • @Sosu217
    @Sosu217 Před 2 lety

    I sold my Ibanez TS pedals and a Maxon OD-808 and bought the Behringer T800 - never looked back. Even at 3 or 4 times the price the Behringer would be a bargain. Sounds awesome.

  • @TheSpeenort
    @TheSpeenort Před 6 lety

    Inexpensive (not cheap) is always a good thing. People are always asking me why I don't have more pricey gear and I have to answer that I throw it in the back of my truck, haul it to gigs, and beat the hell out of it. It's not so surprising that frequently the less costly gear holds up better.

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions Před 6 lety +8

    NO real difference. SAME TS circuit copied a 1000 times!
    Maybe the Behringer had a slight extra bit of gain at the same settings, but it would be no more than a poofteenth!

  • @AndrewRiscart
    @AndrewRiscart Před 6 lety +10

    I wonder if the quality of your amp makes a difference in getting good sound out of the cheaper pedals

    • @scottr6752
      @scottr6752 Před 6 lety +1

      Andrew Riscart yes. Quality of guitar, pickups and amp all factor in.

    • @ianriva7902
      @ianriva7902 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes

    • @luffyhegalong7915
      @luffyhegalong7915 Před 6 lety

      If a crappy signal goes in from a good amp it will definitely noticeable when it goes out. ..its like gabage in..garbage out.
      The crappy signal may not be noticeable at low volumes but at higher gain, its a different stories.

    • @joshuapollack2921
      @joshuapollack2921 Před 6 lety

      A bit late to the game, but different pedals running into different amps sounds d different, I can't run my ocd into my ampeg 140c it's too bassy but no problem in my Marshall valvestate

    • @danielallan5058
      @danielallan5058 Před 5 lety

      Yes the amps makes a huge difference!!

  • @imaginice9637
    @imaginice9637 Před 6 lety

    Your "Black Magic Woman"- Lesson brought me to your channel and i love it. I could die for a RHCP "Slow Cheetah" Lesson.

  • @OneHellOfASandwich
    @OneHellOfASandwich Před 6 lety

    I use the behringer Super Fuzz. I got a $25 amazon card as a gift and I decided I would buy a cheap pedal, and I bought that pedal for $21. It actually sounds awesome, especially for $20. They make some quality effects I guess. Plastic housing makes me anxious and pedal likes to act like a ring mod a lot, but otherwise it's sweet.

  • @wenzwenzel2529
    @wenzwenzel2529 Před 4 lety +3

    Pretty cool face off. They run about $25 now, thanks to this video!

    • @potassiumchloride2542
      @potassiumchloride2542 Před 4 lety +1

      Wenz Wenzel is only about 18dollar in my country hahah

    • @sparkyguitar0058
      @sparkyguitar0058 Před 3 lety

      Not only cause of this vid or any other. Prices have risen on all kinds of equipment. 2 yrs ago I built a big board ,16 pedals, mostly Boss, MRX, and Elec H. for under $1000. Now I can't find any of these this cheap anymore. But I kinda made the switch to the cheaper stuff. Last 3 pedals bought are minis, Donner Echo square, Mooer Liquid phase, and Coolmusic modulation. Total for 3 just over $100. 1 used Boss, MXR or E H gonna be close to hundred or more.

  • @max3pad372
    @max3pad372 Před 5 lety +3

    I could tell the difference immediately! The beheringer sounds good, and certainly deserves a spot on anyone's board, but those tube screamers have a certain magic about them that is not there in cheaper pedal. For $25(what I've mostly seen them go for) you really can't do better though.

  • @CDMA2010
    @CDMA2010 Před 6 lety

    The TO800 is a main stay on my pedalboard. Stays on all the time. A wonderful clean boost through my JCM800 or Hotrod Deluxe. I do agree,the plastic housing is shit and would easily give out after moderate use. But I never touch it, so no worries there.

  • @laarydickman6147
    @laarydickman6147 Před 2 lety

    My first "Distortion" Pedal was a DOD heavy something my other guitarist buddy let me borrow his Tube Screamer. Lucky for me he needed $20 for a pregnancy test. I set it up in front of the DOD and I crafted my lead tone that was 1987. We were an aspiring Metal Band and she was knocked up. My TS is always first in line is still pumping out that killer lead tone now through a half-stack instead of a Marshall 10 Watt.

  • @y2kcurran
    @y2kcurran Před 6 lety +32

    JOYO Vintage Overdrive and never look back :)

  • @daveglander1
    @daveglander1 Před 5 lety +3

    I have to say that the Tubescreamer is better. Because my mate had one, and some famous people had them, so I had to have one and I couldn't let him have a better pedal than me. Then I decided that I need to have better than him, I bought a MESA Toneburst. Because it said 'Mesa' on it and it was expensive. Then he bought a Freidman OD-BE. And now I want one.
    Marty plays a $10 Behringer and sounds better than both of us.
    And there's the lesson kids.

    • @EliteTurtle05
      @EliteTurtle05 Před 5 lety

      you have the mindset of "if it costs more it must be better"

    • @daveglander1
      @daveglander1 Před 5 lety

      @@EliteTurtle05 Nah... even worse mindset than that.
      "Famous Person 'Y' uses this one, and my friend has just bought one. Therefore i must have one, or at least one better.
      Repeat ad infinitum or until the repo man comes along and takes away my car.

    • @daveglander1
      @daveglander1 Před 5 lety

      @@EliteTurtle05 It's more like peer pressure combined with one upmanship.
      And he it is shown just how good a Behringer is when it's in the hands who's fingers have decent tone anyway.
      It's all about the talent... everything else is just dick waving. And I am guilty as charged

    • @EliteTurtle05
      @EliteTurtle05 Před 5 lety

      @@daveglander1 yer i mean i play all my electric songs on an acoustic, until i can afford a electric, and i use a 20 dollar used behringer od300 pedal i got off of the facebook marketplace.

    • @daveglander1
      @daveglander1 Před 5 lety

      @@EliteTurtle05 Fingers... is where tone is at. The way you strike a chord, the way you play a note.
      You want experience advice?
      Here it is....
      Forget what you hear from the amps, forget what you hear from pedals, learn what you hear from your heart. In great hands, a squire telecaster through a cheap transistor amp can sound better than a custom shop PRS through a MESA dual rectifier. This I know from experience.....
      Throughout your burgeoning career you will hear words like 'tone' 'mids' 'balance' ...
      Rely on your ears... experiment, have fun, enjoy, find your sound and find.....'you'. Forget what he does.. she does famous person does... no one ever became famous for copying what 'he' does....
      You will only become famous for what YOU
      do....
      Do what you do....

  • @Rguitar333
    @Rguitar333 Před 6 lety +1

    Marty that was a great side by side comparison. Definitely an eye opener. Thanks for taking the time to review and post this. Keep them coming

  • @yongkim777
    @yongkim777 Před 3 lety +1

    I've used expensive pedals & cheap ones! I use a couple of Behringer pedals, as I or my band mates can't tell the diff between them & some of the more elite ones. But I won't go cheap on a volume pedal or trade my MXR or Dunlop pedals in yet!

  • @Elizabeth-B
    @Elizabeth-B Před 6 lety +3

    Could you possibly teach the song Integral by Cynic? No one teaches it for some reason.

  • @KrishK8055
    @KrishK8055 Před 6 lety +45

    Yo you are awesome..... LIKE YOU ARE A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN LEAGUE!!! Keep up the work of teaching...... If you reply or something that would inspire me. I am 14 and just started guitar 2 months ago so please wish me luck ☺️☺️

  • @haroldaling5422
    @haroldaling5422 Před 6 lety

    You should use a loop selector/switcher with these kind of tests. You are feeding the Berhinger a buffered input, while the Ibanez has a pure guitar sound. This is probably affecting the test.

  • @ericbergmueller2981
    @ericbergmueller2981 Před 6 lety

    I just had this talk with my guitar class students. Used is usually fine. It's nice if you can try it out first, of course. Don't be a pedal snob. Get something workable and with the money you save you could add another pedal like a used chorus, phaser, or delay. There are some great finds out there at yard sales, Amazon, Reverb, etc.

  • @AndyObusek
    @AndyObusek Před 6 lety +43

    My main concern with a $10 pedal is the reliability - especially with something being stomped over and over.

    • @BobCrosley
      @BobCrosley Před 6 lety +30

      Andy Obusek I agree but I look at it this way. (Disclosure: I’m a cheap pedal fan) If you’re not a gigging musician, reliant on your gear to earn a living, you can get 10 Berhengers before you’ve hit the cost of one tube screamer. I think cheap pedals are perfect for people who are just jamming at home or with a few buddies.

    • @AndyObusek
      @AndyObusek Před 6 lety +5

      I see your point, and I wouldn't underestimate the value of good gear as only applicable to "a gigging musician, reliant on your gear to earn a living."

    • @michaelbarker3749
      @michaelbarker3749 Před 6 lety +13

      I’ve had mine for over two years with no problems. They make inexpensive gear that sounds awesome. It comes down to plastic vs metal. It’s not flimsy plastic. If it stands up to a noob player like me, then it should be good for people who know what they’re doing.

    • @BobCrosley
      @BobCrosley Před 6 lety +8

      I know the value of good gear isn’t limited to gigging musicians. I always try to buy the best gear I can. Im just glad there are affordable options out there for people who want to try a sound but can’t afford more.

    • @MRFUNNYMANGUY
      @MRFUNNYMANGUY Před 6 lety +3

      Had one of these for over 8 months (I think close to a year but I'll say under just in case) practiced on 3+hours a day of on off and still running strong, at the time had a shit job and no money so I decided to try one, personally I love it great tone for great price

  • @lewis8585
    @lewis8585 Před 6 lety +6

    Hmm it's almost as if we've been ripped off for years. Wait, most of us knew that :)

  • @mrpsychodeliasmith
    @mrpsychodeliasmith Před 2 lety

    Most people rave about how close to expensive pedals the Behringers sound. The two major complaints are that they are housed in plastic cases, and that the battery is difficult to change.
    I don't know why Behringer don't address these issues. A metal case wouldn't increase the price dramatically. Their pedals would then be above critiicism for the price.

  • @gmf2112
    @gmf2112 Před 6 lety

    I got a TO100 Behringer Tube OD on MS stupid deal of the day new for $10. I also have a boss SD-1, and I use both of them, but I am very impressed with the cheap pedals tone. I thought hey it's 10 bucks. I've blown that much on crap many times before. I'm glad I took a chance. I gig live often, and use this pedal as much as the boss for most gigs.

  • @benjaminsuggs4675
    @benjaminsuggs4675 Před 6 lety +26

    Hey marty!!! Can you do stay away by nirvana? Thanks man!!!

  • @reimondsantiago7234
    @reimondsantiago7234 Před 6 lety +8

    Where'd you buy a 10$ pedal?

    • @samuelmorehouse8204
      @samuelmorehouse8204 Před 6 lety

      Metal \m/ he said reverb.com

    • @chuckHart70
      @chuckHart70 Před 6 lety +1

      Its $19 or so new.

    • @Podcastforthewin
      @Podcastforthewin Před 6 lety

      Surprised . Behringer is so hit and miss.

    • @lucyfuir6386
      @lucyfuir6386 Před 6 lety

      I got a used 90s arion distortion and a used boss chorus as well as a d.o.d. fx56 all for 10 bucks a piece. Check cl or flea markets. Yard sales are a good place for cheap gear too.

    • @sean1513
      @sean1513 Před 6 lety

      Found a d.o.d. grunge for 6 at a goodwill. Local guitar shows and craigslist can have good deals too.

  • @dennishartman2564
    @dennishartman2564 Před 2 lety +1

    I have the Behringer HM300 Heavy Metal and it sounds pretty good. For the $40.00 I paid it is great deal.

  • @AxelAlexK
    @AxelAlexK Před rokem +1

    I badly wanted a tubescreamer but when I saw this behringer copy I went with it instead. Will keep my pedalboard lighter and is 1/5th the price. The plastic is tough, I think people underestimate the durability. Seems like a no brainer to get this over a tubescreamer. The only downside in my mind is the behringer pedals all cosmetically look pretty dull and boring.

  • @LordPadriac
    @LordPadriac Před 6 lety +3

    So just like with all the blindfolded $3000.00 vs $200.00 Strat and Les Paul comparison videos I've seen there is no actual difference other than what people's perceptions and gear snobbery bring into the discussion after the blindfolds come off.

  • @davidsmith9831
    @davidsmith9831 Před 6 lety +165

    The Ibanez sounds $90.00 better.

    • @gibsbone
      @gibsbone Před 6 lety

      David Smith 😂😂😂

    • @rdubby1102
      @rdubby1102 Před 6 lety +1

      I️ wonder why?

    • @dwyanewadeisthebest3312
      @dwyanewadeisthebest3312 Před 6 lety +1

      rdubby maybe because its cleaner and sounded whole

    • @Albee213
      @Albee213 Před 6 lety +4

      owned both, sound virtually the same. problem with the behringer is changing the battery and it's plastic and one good stomp would send it to the garbage can.

    • @adambilge2834
      @adambilge2834 Před 6 lety +17

      You've never owned a Behringer. You can beat the shit out of them.

  • @thunderballz74
    @thunderballz74 Před 6 lety

    In 2017 to now, yeah, there are no $10 pedals. The cheapest I found anywhere was one at $13 it was a boss I got excited for a second until I looked closer and it was for parts.. Lol. About $18 and up and up then way the hell up! I bought a joyo American pedal for $19.79 and as soon as it came in I set it up and my peavey amp turned into a Marshall 50 and then to an orange crush.. Lol. It's a really clean sounding pedal, lots of sounds and great blues, jazzy sounds. Dirty sounds like a orange crush with top end highs and mid low crunchy, punch sound. Love it.

  • @anthonywilson1948
    @anthonywilson1948 Před 6 lety

    One thing I would mention is that the Berhinger pedals are made from plastic & the Ibanez (like Boss) are made of metal - I'm referring to the casing. HOWEVER, the plastic case is really tough & I think most people use their pedals in a 'pedal box' so it probably doesn't matter anyway

  • @wildcustoms
    @wildcustoms Před 6 lety +10

    So, the fingers make the good sound ;-)

  • @peradetlic519
    @peradetlic519 Před 6 lety +84

    $10

  • @ozzyaddams4241
    @ozzyaddams4241 Před 5 lety +2

    I've had my behringer for over 10 years and never a problem with it or a complaint

  • @robm9770
    @robm9770 Před 6 lety

    I bought a cheap tuner about 10 years ago and it lasted about 2 years. I bought a Boss TU-2 about 8 years ago and it doesn't look like i'll need to buy a new one ever again.