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Flawless should change his name to Clueless.
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I am ETH out after Liverpool's 7-0 defeat. That was unforgivable to me.
What pissed me off about Ten Hag after the 7-0 defeat man played the same 11 against Betis. That's when I knew he's doing the favouritism like Ole no matter how bad players performance they weren't held accountable. And it's proved it again and again this season. The whole season when Bruno and Rashford was having absolute stinkers, hall of shame performances they never got dropped but if a player he don't like had one bad game you never see him again. Let's not forget Amrabat was fit all season and yet he never started him until the end of the season, same with Amad. This is why this injuries excuse Ten Hag and his fans make is false. He still had the likes of Amad, Eriksen, Martial, Anthony, Amrabat, Varane before he came back in the team, then he loaned out Sancho, VDB, Mount, Kambwala, ended Reguilon's loan because he had faith Shaw won't be injured, Hannibal, Pellistri all this during the injuries why didn't he select them why did he allow players to go on loan while in a injury crisises instead he went for favourites like Maguire, McTominay, Evans to replace the injuries even man like Forson got games ahead of Amad. No one talks about this despite the injuries we had tons of fit players who probably make our team better but she chose the deadwood instead of the ballers
Well then you need to grow up and be more matured
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Any top top coach would have shut up shop at 4 nil not get totallycooked by your biggest rivals. They will have that on us forever đąđąđąđąđąđąđą
@@SssS9372mature ETH cheerleaders
Ending the stream with..."It's good to actually do a show where we actually talked positively"... after you just complained about a manager for 2 hours was a WILD move!
I need INEOS to keep this manager so discussions like this die and you all eventually doing a 180 like Troopz did after his Arteta Out phase wasn't profitable anymore.
This is why I gave up on the channel. Was way too negative and personal.
This fa cup win is gonna hoodwink United fans again lol and Iâm here for itđđđ
Arteta coming 2nd twice has hoodwinked assna as well
@@Allwin-lz6yj enjoy the fa cup brođđđđ€·ââïž
They were already hoodwinked before the final so winning it makes it worse. This reminds me of when Ole was one step away from winning the Europa league. I was shook as a United fan cause Iâm sure weâd be stuck with him till this day.
Biggest flipflop fans in the prem
Because they donât prioritize ten Hag over Manchester United?? đ€Ą
Ten hag deserves the sack, keeping him will be same as giving job to OLE and giving in to fan pressure which is sign of weak management of INEOS. Fans are reactionary and emotional... management cannot be emotionally.. ten hag allowed basketballfication of football for whole season and he didnt see any problems in conceding shots on goal even when pressed in presser and neville , he refused to change OPEN MIDFIELD tactics till Wilcox forced him to after palace defeat.. we still had injuries vs aresnal, newcastle, brighton, city but we looked good and compact...we are bad whole season not because of injuries but by choice of Ten hag because we had full squad at start of season and were still bad because of open midfield
Not been a perfomance like that from the squad ALL SEASON. Too late to save his job.
U lot a shameless to say you had a better season then arsenal u can get relegated but win a carabao cup or fa cup does that mean u have a better season then a team that finished 2 points of a league title u United fans are deluded
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Relegated?! You've finished 2nd lol
And What trophies did your Bottlejob football club win over the last 4 years or this season alone !?
Who finished 2nd in 2013/4? No googling
More successful season, if you were asked at the start of the year which you would rather an FA CUP and Europa league or second place what would you take?!
Donât lie you know what you would rather. Trophies are what itâs all about.
Saeed please donât sit on the fence you have been ten Haag out all season defiantly since Copenhagen defeat donât change now because of one game man city were all pissed be honest once celebrations calm down man United players wanted it but not sure if was for manager
Just because a manager wins a knock out tournement doesnt mean his the right manager. Lvg got sacked str8 after the fa cup win. The litmus test is always the champions league and prem. What happens in those games truly shows if a manager is fit. Not some knock out games that could have gone eaither way.
Hope you remember LVG beat Crystal Palace in extra time so am not surprised he got sacked
Exactly and ETH did woefully in both competitions. So any United fan backing him is simply delusional.
I do have to say though, LVG was sacked with a cup in hand but heâs only goal difference off of top four if I remember correctly. Looking back I regret sacking him personally, we havenât had a proper coach since then. People will say that he was boring and drawing too much but we had a very cohesive style of play. If LVG was given the squad ETH was given plus ÂŁ400M I doubt weâd be saying the same thing about him
@@user-kv5zh8no1n And ETH struggled the same against Coventry. Shouldâve been fired right after that match for the humiliation.
big up flawless , holding the standards high..
Flawless with the Olise welcome hairdo! 16/10
Whole panel getting corn simply cause theyâre not Ten Hag in is crazy. Ten Hag in cause of the league cup and FA Cup is crazy. Sometimes I have to remind myself that this club has done the treble, won multiple Champions League and has always been competing for the major honours. We used to finish 1st or thereabouts. Nowadays weâre barely relevant and the whole fanbase has just accepted it
Over a decade ago. Weve won 5 trophies in 11 years constantly sacking managers. And we are gonna continue being mediocre if we dont change our approach for once.
Need to get out of the clouds because the fergie era is over. City Shifted us. Poor onwership and financial decisions got us to where we are. We have to accept the fact that we need a project. We are 2 years into one. Theres no harm in giving Ten Hag the summer. Because regardless of the results we are gonna keep the next one for 2 years minimum. And if he doesnt win a trophy in the first season then the fanbase that wanted Hag out is gonna get grilled.
Big up Saeed and the panel.
These lot are hilarious. Want him out all season, one win and they want to keep him aaaaaahahahahaha
This United fans are funny,when Utd were strong in premier league n champions league United never had a style of play or played good football.United always had good wingers and good attackers and won games to win trophy.Look at the biggest club in the world(Madrid) that club donât care about good football or possession football,that club only take coaches to win games and win titles.But here we have United fans winning trophies and crying for good footballđ funny fans who always want a manager to be sacked after 2 seasons.
What a podcast Wow
Thank you guys
You say itâs taking too long to get the structure in place. The people involved have said they are getting best in class or nothing. How about you chill and allow them put things together
Any fan who has been shouting manager out doesnt deserve to enjoy this fa cup win. You gave up on this team. F off!
All banter aside if ten Haag is rewarded with another contract United are finished heâs been slapped up and down the country the whole year. United are too big of a club to let that slide. An fa cup and a carrabou is not enoughđđ
Yup. many United Fans wanna moan and complain about glazers yet are happy tolerating finishing 8th and bottom of the champions league group
These things take time. It took fergie years to get utd back where we belong. Stop acting like children wanting everything now and trust the process.
8th and worst champions league run is âprocessâ from 3rd place .. you ainât smart
@@wolveschangerivers4339 please donât compare sir Alex to ten Haag. Fergie never abandoned his philosophy. You could see he had a plan. Ten Haag not even on the same planet.
@@OCastaneda16 United are too big of a club to accept these standards man.Thereâs no way Ineos if theyâre serious turn a blind eye to poor league performance. Heâs gone imo.
Saeed, lots of these managers cud be huge failures, we need a safe pair of hands to get top 4, Amorin would be a risk, he doesn't know the club probs, just like ETH didn't, Poch would be safe, safe is maybe whats needed now, he's always had a strong eye on the club, would know internal probs, loves to encourage youth, can spend well, fergie loves him and knows the french league, ie Todibo and the 2 other Nice players we're linked to, Bard and Thuram
Poch and De Zerbi are very unlikely. They both wants a club that fights for big trophies hence why they couldn't stay at their club. They both are smart enough to know that you need more control to be able to achieve those goals. Hence why Klopp, Pep and now Arteta stands out from the rest. Poch and United has had meetings before and never came to an agreement.
I back ten hag. We have to start seeing projects through, and not changing manager's every 2 seasons, and start from square 1 again. 2 trophies in 2 seasons ain't bad going considering the club was toxic when he got there. At least give him another season under the new owners
'Projects' Is an excuse for failure.
@Jackiiiiiiiii where's the failure, the bloke won 2 trophies. If he didn't have the injuries he had, đŻ we would of finished in the top 4
@@harmonicfreak203 thatâs all heâs good for. Top 4 and the odd domestic cup is his ceiling. He will never be good enough to win us a prem or a ucl.
@@Jackiiiiiiiiifacts ! This ainât the Man U people know đ€Šđœââïž
@Jackiiiiiiiii mate your talking like united are the best team in the world. Sorry to burst your bubble, but united ain't been that since Ferguson retired, and that's over a decade.
Just to clarify how bad our season is. If Real Madrid was hit with the same amount of injuries as United, would they have won La Liga, and be in the champions league final?
Ten Hag has been playing with fringe players most of the season
NO double A, it's was about not having his center backs. And he gets Varane and Martinez back and look what a difference it makes
Won 1 game and opinions start flip flopping it's hilarious, could only be United fans
God bless Saeed
Im thinking why Troops saying flawless dont have girlfriend.now i know why!đ
Arsenal play good football and win nothing and Utd play bad but win two trophies in two seasons. It makes no sense getting rid of Ten Hag. It can only get better if we keep him
Not true that no one thought that, if you look at your other videos, I was commenting for weeks (in these comments sections) that we would beat City. I just felt that we would do it
Donât get how Ash Meppers and AA want Michel from Girona but donât like Zerbi. Zerbi has basically done the same thing but without the backing of the City group. Michel hasnât managed in the Prem yet, he hasnât done a season with Girona in the champions league yet, hasnât had all of his best players nicked yet, hasnât had to struggle with injuries all season etc. Zerbi has two seasons of prem football under his belt and still has Brighton overachieving and playing beautiful football with all the problems I mentioned earlier.
Michel is even more unproven than Zerbi but they donât like Zerbi cause his name sounds funny or something? Donât get it.
Saeed whatâs ur opinion on Zirkee?
So the last 2 seasons: 6 domestic trophies up for grabs. City won 3 Liverpool 1 & united 2. Get rid of ETH!
Saeed is always asking managers to be sacked after 2 seasons and is excited about the in coming manager until after 2 seasons and start crying again for the manager to be sacked.Itâs been like that for the past years.Just give the man time to work,last season with his trusted players(Varane,Shaw,Martinez,case) without injury he finished 3rd and went to 2 finals
It's the whole fanbase personified. We've done the same thing every 2 or so years and it hasn't worked.
Saeed saying to win the league is ridiculous. If thats the case then the next manager needs to come in and do just that. We aren't in the fergie era anymore. Man city wasnt a titan in the fergie era. Things have changed weve dropped off due to poor ownership financial decisions and controversy
so dont want INEOS to get their manager because saeed is manager out after 2 seasons ... good solid logic
Big pause for the title of this video
If you don't back ten haag ur club is doomed.
Patience guys. It's all about Manchester united not you
top show lads
Ten Hag in simply because he's got to 3 finals and won 2 of them in his first 2 seasons with mid table players , but next season if he gets it , has to be challenging for the league .
Youâre basically lowering the standards of the football club by accepting dross in the premier league / champions league
The standards were low long before ten haag
Fans like you will bend over if ten Hag told you to .
@@OCastaneda16 WHAT STANDARDS?? , the standards dropped the day sir alex left that pitch, we have been in a constant cycle of mediocrity for a decade, now that ten hag is finally creating that spark(youthness , mentaltity, back to the winning trophies etc), 3 finals and 2 wins from em aint a joke with this team where there is deadwood from the van gaal days! if we fire him we are back in the trap of waiting for another next 2 years
You want to lower them because youâre probably a rival
Big Man U bragging about small cups lmao
If you think the FA Cup is a small cup you don't know anything about football.
Eh?? Small cup? Itâs the oldest national football competition in the world!
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Fanbase are loving this as well. Never thought Iâd get to a point where Iâd see my own fanbase begging to keep a manager that finished 8th on -1GD. How the standards have fallen!
@@wolveschangerivers4339 using small cup for FA Cup was exaggeration.. but everyone laughed at Arsenal when we finished 8th and won FA Cup.. different energy all of a sudden from Man U fans
Saeed, you might want to stock up on the tissues to console yourself and rants when eth stays đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Thomas prank
My argument has always been hes style of play is horrendus...half players cant even keep the ball well enough...some players hes bought also...sitting back and countering vs the bigger sides and finding wins...is totally different to going to all teams in league and stamping your authority on them and bopping them off the park scoring goals...and wowing the crowd...it seems ten hag is a cup manager...but he cant seem to find a style of play that can go 38 games and consistency win games...beating man citeh with counter attack goals doesnt mean we can go to 14 other so called lower sides in league and do that...fans react from 1 game or a cup win and flip flop..or think they can argue see we was right..its hilarious...trust me 10 games in next sesson we will look exactly the same..and fans will still find an excuse to blame everyone else but the manager.
This panel is a real controversy as they act as if fans have not watched the games!So many games in the league and championship,we were in control and then the players made stupid mistakes and collapsed!
Those losses left a bad taste in the mouth due to the manner of defeat!
-Europa league collapse and DDG mistakes robbed us of Europa league progression.
-DDG mistakes again and poor execution by players robbed of last FA cup final!
- I can point at Spurs game, Arsenal game,Chelsea game and 3 other games when the players did not even turn up,made mistakes or VAR screwed us and we could have had another 12 points easily finishing with 72 points and being in top 4!
-We were on the way to beat Bayern,Galatasaray and Copenhagen before either Onana , Casemiro,Dalot or AWB did a madness and we threw those games!
-If we had won all those games,fans would not nbe talking about ETHOUT or about style because we got the results!
-Every game there was style,plan and tactics but the players refused to execute it for 90mins and I could see what ETH was trying to do!
-Let us not even talk about the loss of form of Casemiro, Rashford and unavailability of Martial plus all the behind the scene issues with Sancho and some senior players who are leaking stuff and only looking after their selfish interests!
-So,half of his defensive spine is injured,half of the midfield lose form drastically or get injured (Eriksen,Mount and Casemiro) and then the attacking outlet he was banking on from last season vanishes!(Martial injured beginning of season plays couple of games,shows poor form and goes 6months for surgery to run down his contract, Rashford is uninterested,loses form and is sulking the whole season bcos of his issues, Antony has his scandal and loses form and so cannot be relied on! Sancho decides he is bigger than the club and decides the fans can go to hell while he is chilling instead of respecting his club and manager and helping the team!)
Are you guys humane at all when you open your mouths and spew biased drivel?
ETH IN all the way and he must learn from this season!
P.S Do any of you think the playing of Rashford is solely his decision?It makes no sense when not in form except there is a brief from above don't you think so?
Sadly the impatient Ten Hag outers might not have the patience to read your well thought explanation for why the season didn't go as well as we hoped... The patient among us appreciate reasonable fans like you...thank you. TH deserves more time.
Then next season Licha, Luke Shaw and whoever will replace Varane will be injured again and here we go on another round of he got injuries blah blah blah. Even if we got top 4 I would still be ETH out because of how we play.
we never had any control in midfield ,, stop this bullshit
Imagine city ,Liverpool or arsenal playing with kambwala,evans,maguire as center backs for majority of the season and see if they would do well
So they aren't professional players đthen what are they doing at utd , you are mad
Like this comment if your ETH in
Rivals want ten Hag to stay
@@OCastaneda16 they definitely do
So do real utd fans.
@@wolveschangerivers4339 The âreal United fansâ jab is for emotionally driven losers with no argument. Grow up.
Seriously thinking of cancelling my subscription to the channel.. Seriously low level debating.. The manager has been without 3 first choose defenders and 3 of their replacements for most of the season.. He loses Mainoo and Amad just after preseason, then loses Casemiro not long after.. The game he has Varane and Martinez back we beat the best team in the country.. He has a 3 year contract, has won 2 trophies, so surely deserves to see out his contract and see what he can do next season
Standards lads/ladies?? Ten Hag's injury situation week in, week out was was bad, but he wouldn't adapt his tactics all season to accommodate that until the arsenal game. THATS a FACT and facts speak louder than words. Elite managers don't change at the end, they change when they see they dont have the players to make their preferred formation and plan work.
Wys Arsenal living rent free in u lots heads. đ
This is the modern era fan. CZcams fans. They seems like they are better than the coach. This group of ppl believes they can manage better than ETH?
Ten hag innnnnnnn!!! For me!
You and rivals have the same thing in common
â@@OCastaneda16 tryna see us lose I hear it because when we get better it's over
ETH gave Sancho a long holiday mate, give over blaming Hag over that. Sancho should never return
It is his fault because Sancho is clear of Hojlund, Garnacho or Antony. He should never have been sent out or benched for trash like Garnacho who is talentless and would not start for many midtable teams. But some donât accept reality.
We united fun have to be the worst and funniest people in the world, we have a manager who clearly is a winner like it or not you donât win a trophy five years on a spin five years only Pep Guardiola can say that in today football, but people want to seat down for 2/3 hours and tell you he donât have any ideas or what his doing is absolutely laughable. Than fan like Flawless want the club to be changing managers every time something goes bad or his not happy when his favourite player is not in the team again is absolutely laughable.
@@joshuachew560 just to let you know the standard of Manchester United has been in the mud since 2010 if your old enough to remember, has the manager make mistakes YES he has but every manager makes mistakes Pep made mistakes yesterday. Just so you know ETH was recognised as one of the best at developing players when given the right opportunity and environment which we know united has not had in place for more that 10 years so place miss me with the BS
Do you really think a manager will come in and straightaway we are going to be playing Champagne football, just remember Tottenham lost 3 games in a row in November playing champagne football you think a united manager could do that and you fun donât call for his head. â Mr standardsâ
It's fans like you that lower our standards, regardless of the FA Cup trophy, this season has been a disaster class with this stubborn Manager keeping on making mistakes and mistakes and mistakes, unwilling to be accountable and only blame others and injuries and etc bla bla bla..1 match doesn't negate the whole season, hope ETH will get the boot, we need someone like De Zerbi, a real coach that will really improve our players and built a pattern of play!
â@@user-kv5zh8no1nplease don't compare our club to Tottenham, this is what I mean in lowering the standards..if we want to compare, please compare to Man City (as much as I don't want to say this), Real Madrid, Barcelona, FC Bayern, Juventus, Inter and etc..Juventus sacked Allegri within 24 hours after Juve won the Italian cup, he got the sack, this is what I call STANDARDS! If a manager is unable to hit fulfill the KPI, sack him..we as a club need to be ruthless to get us back to the top
@@joshuachew560 first am not comparing that chicken of a club to united but the reality of life is we are not the club we was in 2008 we are where we are for a reason. What is united KPI
Like this comment if your ETH out
Brilliant only channel can see through the FA cup optimism. We'll done!!!
Damn about to be gaslit into another bad decision. United in the mud forever. Ten BaldEgg is going to get a 3 year contract extension for 25M then get fired next February with United sitting in 9th. Going to take another 25M from United on the way out and maybe buy 4 more bad players that United fans will be crying about for years đđ
Utd fans acting like an abused girlfriend. Yeah, he beat me every day for a year, but he was nice today and took me out to a nice restaurant, so maybe I'll stay with him for another year. đđđ
Damn great Analogy. Ash and AA have been manipulated by this win especially AA. That guy is waffling to keep Ten Hag because he knows who the bad players are. Ten Haram was calling Maguire and Shaw great players that weren't available. And he loves McTominay. Keep him then and he will get rid of our good players like Amad. He definitely leave even Ratcliffe rates Amad so why would man leave Amad in the devil's hands
@@mojok7070 The fact that we see that this manager is alienating our most talented and respectable players for midtable fodder while these other fans donât it is eye-opening. These same idiots will be blaming the players again when itâs all the garbage players theyâve backed that remained while shouting the players are the problem which is exactly what they do now.
All these clowns wanted united to lose the FA CUP. u can tell by their reactions
Ten Hag has to be sacked regardless.
The football club has to set standards and set proper discipline!!
#TenHagOut
Exactly, well said..1 match doesn't negate the whole season, get ETH out, don't forget LVG and Jose won trophies, but still got the sack..we need a true coach that will improve the players and build an identity and style of play, someone like De Zerbi!
Fans wanted Mourinho / Van Gaal sacked faster because theyâre serial winners at the highest level and also had standards but want to keep ten Hag nowâŠ.
Right. Thank you to ten Haag for those two trophies but itâs time to go.
Give me a name you want instead of moaning about sacking him?!!! No one good enough so calm down ith the sack hype
Flick / Conte/ Löw/ Tuchel / etc all better than Ten Hag. Stop being brainwashed into tolerating mediocrity
@@OCastaneda16 non of them apart from Tuchel being mentioned. Think you need to update your list and stick poch and McKenna in there. Tuchel is a good manager but they wonât want his personality. Anyone else is a downgrade.
All better managers than ten Hag at the highest level so stop dismissing them because you wanna tolerate another season of mediocrity and dross
@@OCastaneda16 so youâd take McKenna or Poch fml another reset and gamble
â@@OCastaneda16You're talking shit my friend
#Ten Hag inđ€§đ€§.
Rational, realistic fans are Ten Hag In, emotional, diluded fans are Ten Hag out.
Smart people donât settle for 8th and Bottom of the champions league group
â@@OCastaneda16Smart people know why they ended 8th. Smart people are patient. Smart people actually understand that 2yrs, 3 finals, 67% final win rate is progress. Thick people think they can jump the queue in 2yrs, and finish 1st/2nd.
@@OCastaneda16 Smart People realise we need all the available funds possible for the transfer window. 10 mill to sack him. 15 mill for our DOF and We have to Pay whatever release clause for the next manager. 5 mill for Mckenna. So 30 Mill Spent already. Ineos have nothing to lose by keeping him. We are not the same United when Fergie left. Get your head out of the clouds. We need to build like arsenal. Theres actually a Future for once at this club.
So 8th and Bottom of the champions league group is ok??
I used to think Arsenal fans were bad but youâre no different fella
So you want Manchester United to be like bottlejobs Assna?? Boy find shame!
1:51:30 - To say that you want your club to disregard popular fan opinion is weird man. I know that you have your niche views about the manager, but no fan should want that. Wild.