How Can You Believe In A God Who's Jealous?
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- Isn't jealousy a petty, human emotion? Does it make sense that Christians would worship a God who is characterized by fits of temper tantrums? At Fresno State University, a student asks and Frank Turek responds.
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I think the main problem is pride. Most people think they know everything. They don't come asking a question, wanting to know, wanting to understand. They come carrying judgement...
I love this explanation
Amen
U nailed it.
I hate current times. Everyone's a judge, jury and executioners in their own court of public opinions
“In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”” Psalm 10:4
Hundred percent right. Pride and Gossip.
"He doesn't get any benefit out of you obeying Him" Amen! He only wants what's best for us!
Amen
Stoptheabuse now Morality doesn’t stem from religion. I treat every person with respect and kindness, work hard every day, take money out of every paycheck to donate to those less fortunate, go out and do volunteer work every weekend. I’ve done countless food drives, worked in soup kitchens feeding the poor, and many more volunteer acts all year round. It’s not even that I don’t believe in God, it’s simply that I just don’t care if there is one or not. For me, doing the right things feels good. That’s the only reason I pursue moral choices. I don’t believe I’ll get into paradise, or please some omnipotent being. I do it for me, and because it makes me feel whole. How would you argue someone who lives like this deserves to suffer eternally in hell just because they don’t believe in a god?
@doug nut everything has conséquences mind you what you do will affect others around you on earth not God. And God wants to protect everyone here.
You need to know the consequences of your actions. Just like a parent tells their child off if they do something wrong or silly.
Amīn
I feel like God DEFINITELY get some benefit from the relationship, like he genuinely enjoys it and gets joy from it, just like any father would having a good relationship with their son, or possibly even that any friend would having a good relationship with another friend...y
I am the photographer who captured that lightning photo in the thumbnail!!! Not kidding. I was just watching random youtube videos and saw this video in the suggested list and I almost couldn't believe it. This has to be one of the craziest coincidences that has ever happened to me. How in the world did you get it??
Yo that’s wild
You clearly have a knack for being at the right place at the right time! Nice eye
Providence. There are no coincidences. The Lord calls on you in even the smallest signs. Search for him!
I think it's not that He can't force you to love Him, but He won't force you to love Him, because that's how much He loves you.
Please give a few scriptures to back up that carnal claim of Gods love.
When he says God can’t I think He’s referring to God’s nature not allowing Him too. Doing the opposite would be contrary to His nature.
Love is an immaterial reality that exists apart from us. Love will never change and whether we exist or not will still exist no matter if anyone is conscious or living to experience or observe it. Hate is not the same because it is a lack of love. Immaterial realities such as love, truth, Logic, mathematics, and morality cannot create themselves. They are so specific in their nature that you have to assume they were created by someone. Since God created space, time, and matter which would logically mean He is spaceless, timeless, and IMMATERIAL. These immaterial realities come from Him. So love comes from Him and because He is not finite or made of matter like us so His nature is FAR different than ours. These immaterial realities don’t only come from Him but are OF Him.
@@pkjoey8066 stop fooling he kept you still alive
@@pkjoey8066 what, as God, ending someone’s life isn’t murder when he could just resurrect them in the afterlife,
But I guess it’s the emotional hatred that you have and want to release onto God,
When you put hell like that it sounds far scarier in my opinion, a place completely separate from God, assuming you know what God means in that context, God is life, order, justice, an so on, imagine a place none of that exists.
Imagine a place without love, or joy, or even happiness, all you'll feel is hatred, pain, and extreme sadness. Because in 1 John 4:8, "But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
Yes I imaging a very scary place
I can think of a few
Hell is not always about *being tortured* but rather than living in maximum risk of evil, everybody is *tormented* . Imagine that the 7 years of harvest is Heaven and 7 years of famine is hell. People will struggle doing so evil to get what they want. So if someone always do evil deeds in hell it will be maximized. No love found in hell even just a little.
Sorry, but the notion of hell, or "Eternal Torment" was taken from most other religions, the more direct one being Tartarus from Greek mythology. Take now, however, that in said mythology, Hades oversaw the underworld/world of the dead, and both of it's destinations: Tartarus (eternal torment) and Elysium (eternal paradise). KNow what's funnier? People seem to have dreams and whatnot of heaven, and their recollection of it is always vague . . .yet, here we multiple depictions of hell, and in very graphic detail . . . which says that basically hell is far more interesting for people to consider than heaven, which is dull and likely drab and uninteresting.
If you Google the definition of jealousy, it includes this: fiercely protective or vigilant of one's rights or possessions.
"Howard is still a little jealous of his authority”
synonyms:protective, vigilant, watchful, heedful, mindful, careful, solicitous
"they are very jealous of their rights"
In this context, God’s jealousy is actually comforting.
Laura Engelbrecht so god is basically a slave owner
Twulfbynight No judging by your freedom to say what you want. Slave owners capture people against their will and force them to work. I can renounce my Christianity any time I choose.
WarpPal but doesn’t he claim possession of humanity? And those who oppose him must be destroyed? So he’s worse than a slave owner. He’s a psychopath
Twulfbynight Well he created the Earth and humans out of it, how is that slavery to say he owns it?? He owned Lucifer too look what he did. He didnt break Lucifer after his rebellion. Dont act like thats unreasonable...well maybe according to your subjective standards but again its invalid anyways so...
There are people who CHOOSE to serve God and make major sacrifices, but because we have an adversary who is trying to turn humanity against God and destroy his people off the Earth by making followers of his own. God must defend his people by destroying those who join the adversary to destroy his people.
Now that adversary must be punished and all those who follow it by permanently putting them away from all those who recognize God and follow him, thats what Hell and the Lake of Fire is for. BUT many unbelievers, pagans, even devil worshipers must be ministered to to be given the chance to separate themselves in spirit from the Adversary.
You aint dead yet or a slave so I guess He's not a psychopath because if he was God's people would be like humanoid insects with no consciousness. And would rule this planet involuntarily with a fist of an unbreakable alloy unable to choose for themselves or the people they rule over.
Thats the problem with society today(at least in the first world) If you experienced evil in its pure raw form you wouldnt be using psychopath loosely like that
WarpPal why would an all powerful creator need to destroy anything? And what about the other human races that have come and gone like the Neanderthals? Do they go to heaven or hell since they went extinct thousands of years before Abraham. And if a person chooses to worship Vishnu or Thor, do they go to hell as well? You speak of choice, but there is none. It’s only worship me or be destroyed and tormented for eternity. How is that not a psychopath?
It's also worth noting that, while we tend to use the words "jealous" and "envious" interchangeably, they actually have distinct meanings. Envy is wanting something that isn't yours, which is bad. Jealousy is not wanting someone else to take away what is yours (like the jealous husband). Jealousy can be bad, based on the heart and attitude of the person, but it isn't always. And as Frank said, with God it's purely motivated out of love.
an obvious example of how we know Jealousy can be a good thing. Quite often when people break up, they want their old partner to be jealous. Sometimes they even go so far as to try to get a new partner just to make their old partner jealous. If the old partner is jealous.. that is a desirable trait.
“God so loved the world...”
@Paul Morgan The same reason you're obsessed with American Christians: we're all in a spiritual battle and we're on one side and you're on the other. You came here to fight because you hate who we stand with: Jesus. You can always change sides, y'know. We'll be happy to have you, Paul.
You’re projecting. You don’t need to lurk on Christian videos all your days, claiming you don’t believe in God (you obviously do, you just don’t like his) and yet never leaving to live your God-free life. You feel the lack and that’s why you’re here.
Morgan, you are the proof; posting the same message all over Christian videos, desperate for someone to talk to about how evil the God you don’t believe in is, “borrowing” biblical morality to cast judgment against said God even though you allegedly don’t believe in either God or subjective morality (but we both know you do, hence your presence here).
I know plenty of people who don’t believe in God and none of them waste any of their Godless freedom on Christian message boards. Only people who believe in God and hate him do that (I used to be one so I get it). Real non-believers are out there whacking off and getting drunk and laid and living it up because they know that tomorrow they die. It’s a dangerous road but at least they’re consistent with their beliefs.
You, on the other hand, spend your time on Frank Turek’s comment sections. I know why I’m here and it makes sense given my worldview but you?
Since you’re already here and since you believe that God exists, why don’t you just join us instead “because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."”
Romans 10:9-11 ESV
The alternative is to keep doin what you’re doin. I think we both know the better of those options. I’m looking forward to calling you brother in the coming kingdom! Take care and God bless you, Morgan!
Paul Morgan can’t nonbelievers /Atheists ever have anything original to say ? You don’t even switch it up you quote it word for word each and every time.
Paul Morgan why can’t Christians be political ? Jesus was extremely political , his execution was all because of politics.
when my ex-wife told my daughter's to call her new husband daddy, i lost it. it was then that i understood God's jealousy towards his children when we seek after other God's. makes sense?
Jaime Lopez That very same reasoning can be applied to other religions (and their gods).
Sage is right the Jew or Muslim or Greek God or whatever could be just as jealous that you dont follow them vs your made up christian god Jaime.
Religious people struggle with thinking.
Jaime Lopez 😯..... Mind blown!
Sorry man that's hard. It's not right to tell children to do that. I hope you enjoy a good relationship with them now
But your daughter also calls your god , father.. hmmm confusion in delusion of the instituition
a father does not need a son but it is the son who needs the father
Anthony Pearson wow..great point
sarcasm???
Anthony Pearson no bro lol...no need to have your guard up. The greatest points are the simplest points.
oh cool thanks then...actually jesus taught me that...search the scriptures brother in christ
Anthony Pearson thanks I will.
I love the way sir Frank clarifies each question with precise meaning.
I can't even imagine what the world will be like without his holy spirit
You're living it dude.
@@jackmyers2359 speak for yourself
@@jackmyers2359 ? What do you mean by that? You know the holy spirit has been here for ages right?
@@jesuschrististheanswer4546 It's been in people's psyche forever clear back to when cave men didn't know where the sun went at night, why there was lightning and why volcanoes erupted. They thought it was the wrath of "gods' and stories were fabricated about their origins. They sacrificed their animals and even their children through the ages to appease these "gods" thinking the gods were upset about something. These stories were enhanced through the generations and like any other "stories" they were fabricated more as time went on. If your "holy spirit" has been here for ages without his children knowing for sure that he exists, if he allowed numerous different "holy" books to be written that are vague, can be translated and interpreted many different ways, allows thousands of different religions and denominations and allows thousands of innocent children to die every day of starvation and diseases, he's a piss poor excuse for a god. I swore I wouldn't have this type of discourse with another theist, You are a lost cause for reality. You fail to admit that if you were born in the Middle East you'd be defending another "belief" entirely, If you were born in India, you'd be washing yourself in a dirty river to appease your god and worship millions of gods, if you were born in Israel, you wouldn't even revere the jesus character. But no, you were born in the 'right' place and just you have the 'right' religion!! Childhood indoctrination will probably never leave you, it is too ingrained to do so. You were molded by someone else, you allowed them to do your "thinking" for you, essentially you're not even "you". You have never researched any of what you think you know, you probably haven't even read the bible in it's entirety. I was a xian myself for 25 years, until I had so many questions I demanded answers for. I found out that ALL religions are man made, the hell and heaven concepts are too. Of course you'll tell me I'm satan or evil, I really wasn't a xian, or I was misdirected. You'll give my bible verses and tell me some more nonsense about your "belief" of which I want NONE of it. You have questions too, I don't know how you couldn't but you feel it's satan trying to corrupt you, it's what the church wants you to believe. Actually it's your common sense begging you to come to your senses and quit living your life by an ancient book that makes no damn sense in reality. You know and I know it!
@@jackmyers2359 the Holy spirit hasn't been here since Adam and Eve aka " cave men". Jesus came down to earth about 2000 years ago and when he went back to heaven he sent the Holy spirit down to comfort us. You're probably an atheist so anything I say isn't going to make you believe me, but that's the history
Man's jealousy is usually selfish in nature, how it affects me.
God's jealousy is loving and giving for our benefit.
@Barry Woods Can you Document with scripture they were innocent?
@Barry Woods in THE DAY YOU EAT YOU SHALL DIE..
What is a day to God?
@Barry Woods u think they became as gods?
gods are nothing so what..
satan told them they would be as gods but were they?
Did satan tell them the truth??
@Barry Woods more like Creator and creation. Not slave
@Barry Woods u don't even know what happened in the garden..here u go judging without facts again??
Do u understand predestination?
I think Adam and Eve were .
U should at least try to contemplate what happened,for us to need to be born in the flesh in the first place..
Why did they realize they were naked? Why did they make aprons to cover their shame?
By the way, that was GOD speaking inside Frank, well done Frank.
How do you know this?
You cannot make these claims without evidence!
@@criticalthinker2380 A perverse generation wants signs and evidences
@Wesley Hatting It's great for those that need a security blanket, those that are afraid of the dark, those that can't face reality on reality's terms. Santa Clause for adults....
Wesley Hatting exactly, how will you get to know? Humble yourself, and seek ye first the Kingdom of God, learn what it is the Fear of the Lord, Pride is the worst of sins and the worst of your enemies, 1 Cor 6:19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
Agreed
"Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:"
Isaiah 55: 6 KJV
Seek Jesus everyone!
Except the muslims and hindus etc . They are betting on the wrong god because of accident of birth geography organised by your god who will arrange for their eternal suffering for their trouble. Nice god. And you clap because you're on the VIP list. How empathic of you.
@@francoisona The idea that geography means someone cannot be saved is ridiculous. I used to worship raven, who is the sun god in parts of the Americas. Is that due to geography? Yes, but I left that for Christ. Geography does not restrict. Iran, an Islamic republic, is the fasting growing church in the world. Geography stops nothing.
I am glad that God is jealous of me when I sin, because that means that God loves me and wants what is best for me: namely, his perfect love. If God were not jealous of me when I sinned, then it is inconceivable to imagine how God could actually love me since we are in a covenant relationship.
When we sin, we are seeking in other things what only God can provide -- it is a chasing after the wind. God knows that only His love can satisfy the human soul, so his jealousy when our love is breached is an expression of altruism.
He will be heart broken when you sin... not jealous
See for example there are 2 people and one gets better advancement than other then the one who doesn't gets them gets jealous...God is at higher position he doesn't need to be jealous
Good mental gymnastics to keep the theme that "God is good" even when he acts like a 14 year old girl; putting himself over everyone, being jealous (it's just so damn immature and childish), demanding love and worship, only to hold "the gift of life" and Jesus's sacrifice for "eternal salvation" as blackmail to manipulate walnut-brained individuals to blindly believe that God always has the best intentions. Funny, considering that he can't really speak for himself, now, can he?
@UCdLJD2YpEkqBION6G75KQRw Well, IF he is over everyone, why is he so easily offended by people using his name in vein or to be tested? An all powerful, knowing, and loving god would and should happily take criticism. Whereas, in the bible AND history, people have been killed because of "blasphemy." Your god is weak, immature, and childish.
@@brappsniffs3924 Read your Bible. Prophets have questioned God to His face without any fear, & nothing happened to them. You've a very skewed picture of God & you're full of hate towards Him, for some reason only you know.
It's ok, tho. He won't force you to do anything, you don't want. He'll just hand you over to the one who will enslave you willingly & gladly. Satan, the Devil, Baphomet, Nosferatu etc...
@@mikemorbuk298 Who's the prophet of Christianity? Jesus? Well, if you look in that cumstain of a book, you'll read that Jesus IS God, so why would this god be afraid of himself? A better question is why would God even allow Satan to exist? If he is all good and all knowing, wouldn't he see that Lucifer would try to corrupt people against God? Why doesn't God just make Lucifer good? Or just destroy him? He's ordered the deaths of humans who worshipped other gods or people who were homosexual. Why can't he destroy this king of treachery and evil?
God is good. He knows our idols will bring us harm. He knows he has better for us in store. And it hurts him to see we might miss it. I understand His jealousy.
But our bad actions or thoughts don’t affect him so how can he be jealous
"He knows our idols will bring us harm. He knows he has better for us in store"
You can't possibly know that. So you're worshipping a jealous deity, and guessing as to why he's jealous...
That doesn't make jealousy any less of a petty and imperfect feeling. Making your deity imperfect.
As I watch this I'm realizing that the stronger the work you are doing for Gods Kingdom, the bigger a target you become for the enemy. As someone in ministry I can always see the correlation between serving God effectively and spiritual attack that so often follows. I can only imagine the kinds of attacks you see from day to day in your life and I pray you stand strong against temptations to fall because the ministry you have and the work you do is so fantastically beneficial to God's kingdom. So for the sake of all who love Jesus, Thank you and please continue to stand strong. Amazing work. God bless.
Amen to that.
There are multiple definitions for "jealous", and they aren't the same at all.
1: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage : Envy
2: intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness
3: vigilant in guarding a possession
So... Either it's a negative emotion, or we are God's property. Hmmm. Cool thanks.
@@justinbenson3516 always Assuming.
@@justinbenson3516 We’re not Gods property, we’re His creation. And God’s jealous because we are His. He wants us to experience happiness forever but other gods will give us nothing forever but death. God loves us soo much that He is jealous when we start believing that other gods will give us happiness when He knows that all they will do is make us feel happy for a little while then throw us away forever. My mom said “when the devil wants to take back the hat he gave you, he’ll take your head with it.” This is true. On Christ the Solid Rock I stand. All other gods are sinking in sand. I hope you look into the Bible and pray for understanding regarding this. Love you but God loves you more!❤️
@@obehi526 I have read the bible. What you are describing is not jealousy, sorry. And "we are his" means ownership. I don't own my kids, I care and provide for them. Would certainly not be jealous of them and I'm no god. I don't understand your argument here to be honest but either way, take care.
Think when you insult your own father behind him and he loves you
He is jealous of anyone you choose over him
God doesn't want us to follow other "gods" because they're not *God*, and they can't give us what we truly desire which is love.
Edit: my comment is kinda trash
Well said Tommy. That's why you're my favorite customer.
@Matt Smith I wasn't aware anyone argued feelings were proof of God. The proof we have that the God of the Bible is real is in the OT, whcih foretold in full detail the last 2500 years of Israel's history, including its return in 1948 after nearly 2000 years of diaspora across the earth. The OT even pinpointed the exact year of Israels return of 1948 Ad some 2500 years ago in the book of Ezekiel. Not to mention it fortold the entire birth; life, ministry, death, burial and Resurrection of Jesus in stunning detail, not to mention it predicted the entire 2000+ year Church age of mostly non Jews (Gentiles) and the Jews rejecting their own Messiah for over 2000 years.
No other religion on earth can offer such evidence, in fact they do not even attempt to offer any tangible evidence, they are all based on 100% BLIND faith.
Prove it
Why can demons reach Earth AT ALL?
Oh hi Mark
Classes like these is my kind of school I want to be a student of.
You know right..!
I love it when they start off by asking a smug question only to realize they have no idea what they're talking about.
I LOVE that God is jealous for us!!! That makes me feel so much more secure in His loving arms!!! Praise our Precious Jesus indeed!!!
@skriller bee There is a healthy type of jealousy. If a man or woman saw their spouse being engaged and toyed with by another person, naturally they'd be jealous. It's not a sign of mistrust because that line has already been crossed prior to the emotion of jealousy taking place. You simply have a misunderstanding of the definition and took it out of context completely.
You seem like a real intelligent person. Might I suggest you watch the debate between two of the smartest people to grace the platform of debate?
"Christopher Hitchens &
Dinesh D'Souza"
@skriller bee See next comment for my reply to both.
@skriller bee Healthy jealousy is a means to guard your territory and comes from a sincere care and commitment to a relationship.
THIS is the proper definition of jealousy.....
"The jealousy of God is his holy commitment to his honor, glory, and love that manifests itself in the salvation of his people and the just condemnation of all who stand in opposition to him."
The Theological Meaning of God's jealousy:
"What does the Bible mean when it says that God is a jealous God? Whatever it means, it cannot refer to or imply anything sinful in God. He is a holy God and is never sinfully jealous. He is never jealous because he is needy, greedy, or covetous, or because he is lazy and unwilling to put forth the effort necessary to accomplish his purposes. God is not jealous because he takes a petty dislike to certain individuals and begrudges their achievements, or because he is frustrated with his position in the universe. God does not conform to a standard outside of himself; he is the standard of what is pure and holy. God is in a class by himself, not only in terms of his ontological being, but also in his moral purity. He is undefiled by sin and he knows what is right and good because he knows himself. When he encounters that which is a contradiction of his holiness, he reacts in wrath and he is jealous that what is right and good be pursued instead. God’s jealousy is not indicative of weakness or a character flaw on his part, but it is a part of his holy omnipotence. He will pursue his holy purposes, and, in his zeal, he will accomplish all the set out to do.
This is by far the best way that I can relate to the subject at hand. I believe that I had answered your questions appropriately. Keep in mind, an open mind and a child-like-faith (coming to God with a humble heart) is absolutely monumental to approaching God. He is seeking an OUT OF THIS WORLD relationship with YOU, friend........and it starts with the ABC's of Salvation.
See Tim Henderson's videos on ABC's of Salvation......You're worth it ALL! Come as you are.
46 seconds in and I know this kid didn't know the definition of jealousy. Jealousy is not the same as envy
Also Jealous and Jealousy are 2 completely different things
Jealous
fiercely protective or vigilant of one's rights or possessions.
synonyms: protective, defensive, vigilant, watchful, heedful, mindful, careful, solicitous, attentive
Jealousy
suspicion, suspiciousness, distrust, mistrust, doubt, insecurity, anxiety;
apprehension about rivals, possessiveness, overprotectiveness
synonyms: envy, enviousness, covetousness, desire; resentment, resentfulness, bitterness, discontent, spite, grudge
Just because his intellect is limited doesn't invalidate his question. He just didnt have the vocabulary to articulate his question to your satisfaction
@@peterkroeker753 if your standard for asking a specific question so low. then how come you can determine what you think is at least can be considered as a decent thought process to talk with? is it based on feelings that you disagree ?
it really fathom me there are people trying to make a justification n try to argue against something based on clear hard facts that other people willing to put their time to even write it so clear.
jealousy and envy are synonymous...why tell lies...your god is envious...no other god before him u shall have...also implying the existence of other gods
Why would God have jealousy?
And why would angels suffer from pride, if they didn't LACK anything, in heaven?
Jealousy and envy are VERY different emotions.
Envy (covetousness) is the want of something one lacks. Jealousy is a relationship/relational emotion.
+JuandelaCruz001 ...Well said. I would say that Envy is covetousness, whereas Jealousy is possessiveness.
jeal·ous·yˈjeləsē/nounnoun: jealousy; plural noun: jealousiesthe state or feeling of being jealous."a sharp pang of jealousy"synonyms:envy, covetousness; More
Denotation vs. Connotation
con·no·ta·tionˌkänəˈtāSH(ə)n/noun: connotation; plural noun: connotations an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning."the word “discipline” has unhappy connotations of punishment and repression"synonyms:overtone, undertone, undercurrent, implication, hidden meaning, nuance, hint, echo, vibrations, association, intimation, suggestion, suspicion, insinuation "there was a connotation of distrust in his voice"
Philosophy - the abstract meaning or intension of a term, which forms a principle determining which objects or concepts it applies to.
de·no·ta·tionˌdēnōˈtāSHən/noun: denotation; plural noun: denotations the literal or primary meaning of a word, in contrast to the feelings or ideas that the word suggests."beyond their immediate denotation, the words have a connotative power"the action or process of indicating or referring to something by means of a word, symbol, etc.
Philosophy - the object or concept to which a term refers, or the set of objects of which a predicate is true.
Not sure what you're trying to put across, but without having to go heavily into Syntax, Word Morphology or Contemporary Cultural Usage, I present a scenario; when a man is out with his wife/GF/SO and then as they are walking, another man comes up to them and says something flirtatious to the woman and the woman somehow seemingly accommodating to this kind of behavior, will the man feel "envy" or "jealousy"?
Either way they are Both Petty Human emotions.
God is an infinite being but at the same time represented as a being with eternal love...and if LOVE were to be real, jealousy must exist. God cannot be jealous by any materialistic possessions or skills, because he is omnipotent, instead he is jealous on the aspect of LOVE itself because if we are predetermined (mechanized being without free will) then you cannot LOVE, you can only COMPLY...love is a PRIVILEGE obtained from the FREEDOM of will, and this is FAR MORE valuable to God than anything else, wherein you consciously choose to believe in him and walk his path despite all the self adulation and pleasure The Earth (world of sin) has to offer. If God cannot love then he cannot be an infinite being as it is defined as a supreme ethic.
The jealousy bit went unanswered. Kid asked on the premise that God shouldn't feel the need to have a petty feeling being all-loving and omniscient. That's how I understood the question to be.
He did answer the question though. There's such a thing as righteous Jealousy as well as petty jealousy. Jealousy isn't a petty emotion in of itself. It all depends on what causes the jealousy.
If you're a parent and let's say daughter is calling another man "Daddy", you absolutely have a right to feel a certain way about that cause that's your baby that YOU raised and loved it's whole life. If you have a girlfriend who's flirting and touching on another dude, jealousy is an understandable reaction. That's what leads to a break up.
Petty jealousy is equivalent to a man envious of another person's money.
This is why God told Hosea the pain he feels about his wife leaving him is similar to how he feels when Israel chases after false God's.
Amazing response and preached the Gospel. Praise the Lord!
Amazing to the brainwashed lol
God bless you and your family
Frank Turek.
I will keep uplifting you in my prayers 🙏🙏🙏
Paul Morgan ummm, maybe it’s the fact that there were 500 or so witnesses that saw Jesus alive after he was crucified died and was buried. One or two ‘witnesses ‘ can support a lie but 500? If they were all lying, then why would they freely die as martyrs to what they witnessed? Why throughout the Mediterranean are there pictures and mosaics of St Paul in all the regions of his travels, all depicting a balding man that look the same? You have free will to turn your back on God and Jesus in this life but you must accept accountability when judgement day comes. The choice is all yours.
Dr. Turek does a great job of patiently reaching out to each questioner. I had so many college professors that were completely unwilling to accommodate any dissension or even simple questioning of the content within their lectures.
Quantifying God with human comprehension is so self righteous.!
Really dumb too. We can only be glad that God bothers being concerned about us.
"What kind of loving god would send a person to hell!!!"
This type of thinking... see it so often from non-believers.
It reminds me of a three year old child who, having been warned that "hands in the cookie jar before dinner will result in punishment", does it any way and then lashes out at the parent for being punished after raiding the cookie jar.
"But... but... a parent doesn't send their child to hell!"
You have your *entire* life to make the decision on where you want to spend eternity so it seems infantile to complain that, despite you living your life the way *you* want, God will not let you into Heaven.
Only a *bad* parent would reward a disobedient child so what logic is one using to think God should reward His disobedient children?
Very well said
I disagree. The child is told from the beginning. With the Christian logic man kind is thrusted into a contract regardless of whether they agree with it or not
1. I never asked to be here
2. The evidence of the existence of god is often debated and therefore unclear
3. I’m supposed to be “paying” for sins committed by two individuals 1000’s of years ago.
I don’t understand how that connects with the cookie jar analogy.
Why would a god make rules for mortals in the first place, just to have an excuse to punish them? All rules are made up by humans and gods are made up just to communicate those rules. Children find it easier to relate to persons than abstract ideas, so we personify the rules as "god"-- but when you grow up you're supposed to be able to see what lies behind the pretense.
Your religion is just a drama about unresolved parent/child conflicts.
@@TheTruth-cy4le Thank you for your opinion. I hope you find out how wrong it is, while you are still able to change your mind.
Even Homer Simpson understand the difference between Envy and Jealousy.
Yup, there is a difference between Envy and Jealousy.
Envy means discontented longing for someone else's advantages. Jealousy means unpleasant suspicion, or apprehension of rivalship.
Satan's envy is dirty and has caused him to fall from grace. Satan covets God's position, which is not his place to covet.
God being jealous means He feels an unpleasant feeling/apprehension that He has a rival in your heart. You can compare it to yourself having a crush on someone, but that person likes someone else.
i guess that's how we can differentiate them.
The word in Hebrew means "Intolerant of Rivalry"
Interesting definition, I always took jealousy to mean the secondary meaning, i.e. extremely protective towards, i.e. 'The child keeper kept a jealous watch over the boy.'
But your definition makes even more sense, especially as God knows exactly what nonsense we are worshipping instead of him and where it could lead us.
@@ellingtonlover7319 Yes, it's a reinforcement that we should be worshipping God alone.
Psalms 82:1, he presides over the divine assembly and brings judgement among the gods. So apparently he’s worried that one of these judges gods are going to supplant him.
@@littleredpony6868 he's not worried. God tells us not to follow other gods/idols because they can never live up to his glory. They are bad for our physical and/or spiritual health.
So YHWH is a polytheist?
Good question and Dr. T answered it beautifully. This kid cannot grasp the concept because he hasn’t experienced the love of God on a personal level. I, too, had this question but when I became a parent I started to understand God on a whole new level. Only now do I have a better understanding of His love for us and we will understand so much more when we are in His presence. I appreciate the doubters who have the courage and the interest to get up and ask questions about something they do not understand. May the seed be planted. ❤️
I got the answers for both my questions 😭😭
I am newly baptised and I felt like I was being tested by satan and I was going away from God.
My first doubt was "Why did God let Eve eat the fruit if He knew she was gonna eat it?" : I got this answer in the Second part of the video.
And my second doubt was "Why is God a jealous God if He doesn't allows us to be jealous?" : I got this answer in the first part.
he does not demand us to worship him. Why does he want us to worship him? because he knows that if we don't , our relationships with him won't grow, for our own benefit. not for His. So that we can live in peace trusting him, having someone who will always be there no matter what, that sounds like it is for us, not for his pleasure in someone worshiping and bowing to him. He deserves all the glory, yet he took the form of a servant, he humiliated himself for our benefit. If you're not willing to understand that, it only means you think to highly of yourself, you even think you're better than God. It takes a lot of humility to be the Creator and to humiliate yourself to the creation. WOW! My God is amazing.
yes your god is amazing indeed when it comes to killing and punishing excedingly. Have you read your bible lately ? Not just the nice bits but all of its pages. Your God is a sadistic three headed monster who makes look hitler like a choir boy in comparison.
Your god kills babies for the sins of the fathers, condones slavery, rape, genocide, mysoginy, and other atrocities. Your God is actually a devil in disguise but you are too blind to realize this.
I dare you to read the bible cover to cover. Don't listen to preachers, don't read books about the bible. Read the damn book and wake up!
Peace !
+Johary Rana
WoW...Humanity in general beats God in spades when it comes to killing and punishing...why don't you separate yourself from humanity?
+William Money So you admit that God is a killer and is in competition with humanity ? Humans are flawed and have the potentiality to be good as to be evil.
God is supposed to be an all loving and perfect being but seeing his behaviour in the bible, this is far from the truth.
+Johary Rana
Actually I have read the books and passages you are mentioning.
You do understand that the Old Testament was under the law correct?
The law was in a sense a curse put over man.
In the book of exeqiuel it says "and God gave them up to laws that were not good and judgments that they could not live by"
Paul said that the law in part was good because it showed us what was evil.
But that the law is a curse because no one can fulfill it.
And before you begin to talk about God being evil.....
The nations and the people that God destroyed in the Old Testament ....
You should study a little history of what these people actually used to commit and do...
The Canaanites used to offer their newborns as burnt sacrifices to their god molech.
The same people used to have sexual relations with animals.
Today we have scientific evidence showing that having relations with animals can lead to several sexually transmitted diseases
Such as aids!!!
+Mark Polakow
Lol
first one to insult and cuss loses buddy.
I love how atheist always are quick to offend but get offended so easily...
No no don't bring anything to the conversation , just cuss people out...
Did you learn that in your sociology class?
Learn some better vocabulary and learn to have a conversation.
Righteous jealousy is wanting that which is rightfully yours, but has been or is in threat of being lost or stolen. Envy is wanting that which is not rightfully yours, and belongs to another. Everything was created by, and belongs to God, therefore it is literally impossible for Him to be envious or covetous.
I truly admire Frank, what a humble man!
Jealousy. I knew it. Yet I understand now. Thank you JUSUS...
A God that thinks about you 24/7 expects the same from you. He gets jealous when we think about other God's. He loves you so much he sent Jesus on the cross to restore your connection with him.
some pipol making celebrity as their idol and they focus on that... we need as human focus on God and Praise him...
The stance that turned Orprah towards hell. I am proud God being jeoulos over me. Now that's love unhidden.
I'm guessing she never was a christain ,she said there are many ways to heaven etc,I would anyways never trust these rich celebs to give advice about the Christian faith
Just love God with all ur might. 🙏
Father God thank you for your Holy Spirit that makes this world bearable I pray that all Christians will have more Fellowship
Jealous: feeling or showing suspicion of someone's unfaithfulness in a relationship.
Because he's the only one who has a right to be jealous. And he's the only one who can be jealous and righteous at the same time.
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God is so jealous for us because He is so loving that He doesn’t want us to serve false things that can never fill any void because He knows that only He can satisfy us so He wants us to treasure Him above all else, out of love for us. That way we can experience true goodness. He wants nothing but the best for us, and He is the best. If we have our attention on anything or anyone else- we are focusing on something less than we could- and He is so loving He doesn't want us to experience less than we could.
Even Oprah said she doesn't want a God that is Jealous, over her! That is so silly, I explain it like this: God is our Father. He created us, He IS God. How would you feel if your child began to call on another man as their father? You KNOW as the real father of your child, you will protect your child, and love him/her like noone else can. That is exactly what God means by this. We are His child, and if we begin to pray to another God, he said he is a jealous God because He wants to protect us, provide for us, and He wants us to come to Him when we pray! He is not jealous because he is possessive, he is jealous because he loves us, and he wants to SHOW us! ❤️ Thank you so much Yahuah and Jesus for creating me, my world, and for your perfect love!
As a Christian, I think the "God gets nothing from the relationship with humans" argument doesn't make sense. Jesus wept when death entered into His friend. God regretted when mankind allowed Creation to become corrupt.
You can't make God into a "person" in order to demonstrate the necessity of His existence while denouncing person-like qualities.
Jesus calls God "Father" because He is a loving father. Of course He hurts when we rebel against Him.
+Christopher Lee I don't think you represented the argument correctly. He starts saying that God doesn't get any *benefit* from the relationship with us. He then says God doesn't get anything from us, but i think we need to see the context here. He was supporting his first assertion. Basically what he was saying is that, everything God desires for us is for our own benefit, because he loves us so much, not because he benefits from anything that he desires from us.
+STREEEEEET I appreciate the followup but I disagree. I've heard it posited many times by various apologists, but it, according to my estimation, isn't biblical.
Of course God gets something from us. Praise and worship are a worthy sacrifice. The sacrifices of old put forth a pleasing aroma. In the Son, God is well pleased. So on.
Peter says that God takes no pleasure in torturing the wicked for eternity, the implication being that God laments it.
Again, Jesus lamented over his dead friend.
In fact, the love relationship REQUIRES self-investment. God is most definitely hurt by those who turned from Him. The term "jealousy" cannot be separated from its emotional ties.
Christians are so keen to divorce God from being associated with jealousy, but why? God lamenting over His Son's bride's rebellion is a perfectly valid representation of love.
God doesn't need to be put in a box, because Christ has taken Him from out of the secluded place behind the veil and has given us the word "Abba."
Christopher Lee Of course God get's something from us, it's a relationship, there is an exchange. There is no doubt about that.
What i'm saying is i think his point, i don't know about other's apologists that you mentioned, but i think Frank's point is that whatever God desires for us it's for own sake.
And i think you would agree with that.
+STREEEEEET If God doesn't benefit why does he command attention and worship to himself?
RadNotion That one is clear for our own benefit. He is the only God, the loving God, and not a made up evil god that people used to worship and sacrifice babies to.
God is still God without man. He is love. He loves us beyond our comprehension. He wan'ts and He knows what's better for us, so he command's us to do that.
Not that he need your worship, we worship because we recognize that in Him.
I don't praise the Lord because He commanded or because i want to go to Heaven.
Let me ask you this. Can God desire something that is not good for us?
0:35 This is mind-blowing, I find myself not even able to explain jealousy.
Same here😂😂
Go ask Homer Simpson, he explained it pretty well.
@@amanhasnobody3415 sorry i don't watch family guy
Paul Morgan why are you obsessed with stalking Christian CZcams videos
It's wanting something you can have
I'm so blessed God saved me a young guy prayed for me I fell down and all tournent left total peace. I got baptised and had a vision of Jesus and God told me to follow him and walk the narrow path. I didn't even know there was a narrow path as I had never been to church or read a bible. Now I have peace still a year later read the bible every day pray every day and the holy spirit lives inside of me as I have the amazing fear of the Lord guiding me. We have a living God. I'm so lucky I have no religion never been to church I just have God his book and the spirit guiding me.
When the bible calls a God jealous, it isnt speaking of emotional ways and feelings, its speaking of harmonious intentions. In other words, its saying God wants a relationship with His creation, the funny thing is We make it all about God and God makes it all about us. How beautiful is that.
Wow I didn't realize , I feel so ashamed for my sins against such a loving God I wish I could quit sinning, So the God that created me could be proud of me rather than, me bringing shame to him, and myself
You know God isn't ashamed of you, right? He knows you're going to fail. Yes, you need to have a repent and have an attitude of repentance each day. But you are not saved, by your ability to not sin. Think about that. You are save by HIS grace, thru faith, in HIS death and Resurrection.
Put it this way, If you can be saved BECAUSE YOU stopped sinning, then you could boast that YOU are the reason for your salvation. That is not Scriptural at all. That is why Paul said, we are saved by grace alone, lest any man boast.
Just accept Jesus as your Savior, make Him Lord of your life, and do what He told you to do. Ask for forgiveness everyday for your trespasses against Him. "If you are faithful in confessing your sin, God is faithful and just to forgive". That's scripture. It doesn't mean live like the world and make sin a way of life. Because if that's the case, you aren't walking in "the Way". Sin is your way. If you put yourself in situations where you know you will give in, you need to change that. What is your lifestyle? Are you living a life pleasing to God, or pleasing to you? Make His Way your lifestyle, and ask for forgiveness when you fail at it.
Dude same.
@@JoshDub78 thank you, that was very insightful god bless you.
@@nathanaellemma3680 Bless you, man
There's two jealousy. The negativity of wanting what isn't yours. And the good of fearing to lose someone u love
Fearing to lose someone you love, is control. How can you love someone you think of as yours to own, to possess?
Once again Mr. Turek has the answer.
Love this guy! 🙏
thank you! this explanation has helped me so much! 😊❤️
I am not sure how any of us can say what or why an "infinite being" feels or thinks a certain way.
We can know that God thinks the most important work we can be involved in is the redemption of mankind. We know this because it's what the entire Bible is about.
Jason Love What if the infinite being tells you how he thinks or feels
Josh Jeggs I think it would be weird if an infinite being did that.
Related to the video, Frank Turek didn't say an infinite being told him. He said it was a thought another man came up with. Even more he says, "I think it is true" [at 1:30]. Implying he doesn't know it is true.
Airsoft Corps MilSim I don't agree that redemption is what the entire bible is about. Very little if any of the Old Testament mentions redemption.
Jason Love why would it be weird?
Explained so well by Frank, I was brought to (happy) tears contemplating God’s concern and sacrifice for me 🥲
Like Bender from futurama said “There is no great love without great jealousy” which is why God commanded monogamy and why polyamory is such a failure.
Tristans Songs&Cover this is actually so in accurate? Why would you come here and comment a blatant lie lol. Aside from creation/Adam and eve/ Noah’s ark (which are all up for debate) the rest of the Old Testament actually lines up with history books. From events like the enslavement of Hebrews to the many wars written about in the OT. So to say it’s pure fiction in the same category as Frozen is ridiculous. Even the greatest atheist will admit that the Bible holds great historical accuracy. Even admitting that Jesus did walk this earth. The evidence is undeniable. Please do your research before you comment such a bold statement.
He loves me with an everlasting love. A godly jealousy is not envy, it's a "I want to share myself with you" give you new life and come and share in my happiness and the things I have in store for you, not worldly jealousy that envies after everything they can't have. God came to give us life abundantly.
Man this guy is awesome! Thanks for your teaching 🤍🤍🤍🤍
Not necessarily true. God does get something out of us praising Him...He takes pleasure and delight in us. And God does hurt and have feelings. Genesis 6:6 - The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
How can God have emotion? Can you truly take this idea of God as God? He is far superior than that.
@@dhikr_ad-deen If a god created the universe then he/it/whatever you want probably had a good idea for a creation that served some sort of purpose. While all other religions fail to reveal the truth about our CREATOR, the Bible would hold THE MOST REALISTIC explanation on our world and its history (a world being indwelled with sin resulting in a separation between God and man). And if we are going to take the Bible as the Word of God as it claims, then we know that God takes pleasure in his creation when we put FAITH or trust in God RESULTING in RIGHTOUSNESS which then becomes EVERLASTING LIFE. And the only way that this is possible is through salvation given by God in Jesus Christ. This was His plan from before the earth or universe was ever constructed, for Him to show us His mercy because he loves us. YES He is above everything as you say, but He is love.
@@joshlicari6430 Where did Jesus ever say "I have been sent as a sacrificial lamb for your sins?" There is not a single unambiguous statement in the complete Bible where Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) himself says that "I am God" or where he says "Worship me". If you read the Bible (John 14:28), Jesus says "My father is greater than I", (John 10:29) Jesus saying "My father is greater than all", (Matthew 12:28) he says, "I cast out devils with the spirit of God", (Luke 11:20) he says "I with the finger of God cast out devils", (John 5:30) "I can't of my own self do nothing, as I hear I judge, and my judgement is just, for I seek not my will, but the will of my father". Anyone who says he seeks not my will but the will of almighty God is Muslim. Jesus never claimed divinity. In fact if you read the Bible (Book of Acts 2:22) it says, "Ye man of Israel, listen to this, Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God amongst you by wonders and miracles and signs in which God did by him and you are witnessed to it." If you read the Book of Deuteronomy 5:7-9 and Book of Exodus 20:3-5, it says "Thou shall have no other image of me, thou shall not make onto thee any graven image of anything that is in the Heavens above, in the Earth beneath and the water beneath the Earth. Thou shall not bow down to them, nor serve them, for I, thy lord, thy God is a jealous God. If you read the Gospel of John (17:3), it says, "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." This clearly indicates that Jesus was a messenger sent by the one and almighty God. If you read the Gospel of Matthew (19:16-17), it says, "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Jesus never said if you believe I am God or have died on the cross you are saved. That is a teaching of the church taking many Christians away from their scriptures.If you read further, Jesus (pbuh) goes on and says in John (14:10), "Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.".
In the Book of Deuteronomy 6:4, Jesus pbuh says, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.". Jesus was clear-cut about his message. He never said anything regarding 1 in 3 of a trinity anywhere in the Bible.
@@dhikr_ad-deen I don't have all day to list the hundreds of verses showing the deity of Christ and that the future Messiah of the old testament would be the MIGHTY GOD! Or the prophets of the Old testament (writing the words from the mouth of God) expressing humanities fallen state and in dire need of a deliverer; Why do you think God wanted the animal sacrifices, do you think that a mere animal would wash away the vast multitude of sins for all who participated, the answer is NO , It was an action that involved putting mans trust in God in order to be credited with righteousness, the sacrifices were only a type ( a foreshadowing of what was to come). Jesus fulfilled all the prophecy regarding the Son of Man's first coming perfectly; the prophecy that declared that He would be God in the flesh, and the rest will be fulfilled PERFECTLY in the near future. There are just too many times Jesus refers to himself as the I AM. He is the Son and He submits to the Father (They are equal though (Father,Son, and Spirit)). The whole old testament speaks of God (Elohim) in the plural "Let us make man in Our image". All three members are present in the Godhead who is the author of the Bible.
You are looking at the surface level. All the scripture you cited can be easily resolved by understanding God in human flesh and His purpose within the world (not to rule an earthly kingdom, but to die and bring a heavenly kingdom) while also understanding the relationship between the Father and the Son. He calls you my friend: to himself, you must look closely. I promise you that you will see that he is truly King above all King's and Lord above all Lord's. If you would like, I can direct you to good information that will overwhelm you with truth (a truth that might sting).
He was the lamb to be slain, Please read Isaiah 53 and you will understand. I speak with compassion because I think you are seeking truth and if you are willing, you can accept the truth even though your former religion and people will be against you. Answer back if you want me to link some videos or even some passages in scripture that would verify the deity of Christ.
@@joshlicari6430 Jesus never said I was a sacrificial lamb, nor did he ever claim to be God, or asked to be worshiped.
In Surah Al-Imran 3:19 it says, "The only way of life in the sight of Almighty God is submitting your will to him", in short it means "The only religion in the sight of Allah is Islam". Jesus submitted his will to Allah.
In John 20:17, it says "Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." This is a clear distinction between Jesus and Almighty God.
I don't care what Paul had to say about Jesus (who btw was not an disciple of Jesus, rather a self appointed apostle). I care what Jesus had to say, and you can't prove it from Jesus pbuh himself. Please don't waste my time with statements that don't give substance to your argument......
Many people mistake JEALOUSY for ENVY. Here's the difference: ENVY is wanting what does NOT belong to you. JEALOUSY is wanting what belongs to you BACK after it has been stolen.
I looked up the definition and didn't see that at all, but I did see these:
- feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages.
- feeling or showing suspicion of someone's unfaithfulness in a relationship.
- fiercely protective or vigilant of one's rights or possessions.
And this one too: "jealousy generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, and concern over a relative lack of possessions or safety."
What dictionary are you reading from?
@@Anonymous-zd1ow My definitions are the more ancient ones. They make infinitely more sense to me.
@@TheWelvarend Ahh the ancient definition
Looked it up and it checks out
But explain to me why does the Bible condemn jealousy every other chance it's brought up?
@@Anonymous-zd1ow I think if you were look up the various passages you are referring to in ancient Hebrew and Greek, you will find your answer. Similarly, when the Bible warns you not to love... it is doesn't mean 'not to love' but 'not love the wrong thing.' You will find the context of any passage will rescue you from linguistic paradoxes.
Even if it was divine tyranny, Ill take God every time. Not out of want for my better interest, out of love for all he has done for me. He gave me life and purpose and I will praise Him eternally for that.
jealousy is recognizing that someone else is receiving attention and devotion that should be yours.
God is good, All the time.
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Great explanation!
Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead and you will be saved!
(Romans 10:9)
Christ makes life INCREDIBLE!!!
The scriptures state to love your God with all of your heart, soul, and strength. God receives our love because we are responding to Him with our will. Cursing God is a very poor choice yet God will still love us but it's better to do the right thing *according* to the will of God in the Holy Bible. The name of the LORD is to be respected and honored. Repenting of sin cleanses us of unrighteousness.
I have so much love and respect for frank turek
I like the way pastor answers the question.....
Never been Jealous as I saw no point in it. I've heard of other gods, even when I was a christian (don't say I wasn't, otherwise you're committing sin) and I honestly didn't care, and I still don't care what other gods people follow.
If god is the only god, then there is NO POINT to being jealous of what doesn't exist. Jealousy is petty, it leads to dark emotions, and is the path of distrust.
And if god truly didn't need anything of us, then there'd be no need to be jealous or angry about anything. For someone who doesn't need us, he certainly has made a buttload of plans for something he "doesn't need".
Think about it though. If God needed something from us, such as acceptance. Then he would give us no option to go against him. It is only through his love for us that he gives us the option to turn away from him. His jealousy is not because he is not getting what he wants it’s because he knows we are not getting what we need, which is our true God. His jealousy is only out of love not envy.
God is jelous bc God really Love Us.. but not all God creation love Him The way he love Us so much... i felt jealous b4 to someone i love... and it hurts..... God is So Good... Words are not enough to express how much God is Great.. Divine,holy,Powerful, Merciful, Majestic, Loving, In the Highest Praise!!!!
@@loveandpeace9068 Until you remember that Jealousy is associated with Envy & Greed, 2 of the 7 deadly sins.
Also, the most abusive men & women on earth are Jealous types.
Why is it a bad feeling to feel jealous? I would think being jealous is a feeling of love, protection. Over-jealous is when you ACT on those feelings
It's bad because it makes you feel bad, and the only actions that stem from jealousy are bad as well.
If God can be jealous then there must be more than one God.
This was very well put. Just amazes how anyone can reject Jesus? But this world truly is an amazing place.
Where there is true love there will be jealous
True love...upon threat of hell...IS NOT LOVE!
This is a tough statement in my opinion.....when a man truly loves a woman, and sees another man being friendly toward her, and she laughs at his flirtatious advance,,,,the man in love instantly becomes a raging inferno within, the fire pierces the other man twice as the lovers eyes state the other male down, as if to burn holes in the other males face if he could.....this is jealousy....is it right???
@@criticalthinker2380 is hell a threat though. It's what you want if you don't want to live with God.
It's more like a logical outcome than a punishment in that sense.
@Jayson Lavilla you got to be kidding
That's control. Jealous people are insecure children.
I always tell people that God is jealous 'for' us...for the betterment of our souls! I could be jealous, or be affected by jealousy if my wife started lying to me and having an affair behind my back. If she was cheating, than I my jealousy would be righteous; but I still wouldn't be jealous for her (Like God is for us), but I would be jealous because of her, and this jealously could lead me into a grave sin. I can blame this sin on this truth: She cheated on me and caused jealousy to rage within me. This is the opposite type of jealousy God has toward his children.
Generally, our jealousy is rooted in our selfishness, God's is rooted in His Love for us. Because God is love, I believe he wants the best for every soul on this planet.
I enjoy watching it. Thanks Dr. Frank Turek
love is to give, and you feel it too, love God as he loves you and life is amazing
It still astonishes me that unbelievers want heaven without God. Like how does that make sense? It's like wanting a bakery without sweets. Or a Baker. Makes absolutely no sense. And shows you just how lost ppl are without God. They cannot understand this mere concept
Exactly. To go to heaven you have to love God with all your heart and believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. You can't just be a "good person", reject Jesus and go to heaven
@joker I don't follow how your response is relevant to my message. Are you saying that people should have heaven without God because you don't think He exists?
@joker fair. I reread their comment and still don't understand how what you're saying applies other than if you are trying to protest that you should be able to go to heaven without accepting Jesus. Is that what you're trying to say?
@joker so you think the bible is not credible because it was written by man? Let me ask you: have you ever been to school? I'm sure you've cracked at least one textbook in your life. Did you refuse to believe everything written in said textbook solely on the basis of the fact that it was written by a fellow man/woman?
@joker so, yes you are willing to believe in man written textbooks. Interesting. So your problem with the bible isn't that it is man written otherwise you'd be holding a contradictory viewpoint.
Textbooks tell you far greater things than the "grass is green". We currently have books that give us historical accounts of our world. We have books that direct our medical knowledge. We have books that talk about philosophical understandings of life. And we have books that focus on spirituality. These are some deep things for men to be writing and claiming. Yet you don't seem to have issue with them. How come?
The bible does the same exact thing, (and it certainly does not just focus on God sending us to hell if we don't choose Him-as the gospels will prove) yet you have problem with it. Why the hypocrisy?
This has been a long time pet peeve of mine, and it further irritates me that some online dictionaries have accepted today's misuse of the term jealousy. So, I'll say this once, pardon the caps, but I want to stress this, JEALOUSY AND ENVY ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS! Jealousy is a healthy emotion, but can sometimes be perverted into a bad emotion. Envy on the other hand is a fundamentally bad emotion and can never be a healthy emotion. Jealousy is being protective of something that is yours and you care about. Envy is wanting something that is not yours, but someone else's. An example of healthy jealousy, no one would ever want to see complete indifference on their spouse's part when they are cheating on them. It shows them that he or she doesn't care enough about you to be jealous of your love.
Muttley Mutt i beg to differ on the notion that envy can not be a good emotion if you envy someones intelligence you would try to get to the same level right
Dave Dumas I understand what you're saying, Dave. A person can admire another's intelligence and be inspired from that person to better their own intelligence, though, admiring and envying another person's intelligence are two completely different emotions. One could argue, they can produce the same results or drive for the one trying to better themselves. Yes, but results have nothing to do with the emotional journey of that person to achieve their goal. One emotional journey is ugly, the other is not. Though, someone could inspire you, you should never envy that person. Envy causes competition, causes you to needlessly compare yourself to that person, very unhealthy attitudes, but simply admiring that person from a heart with no envy, will produce good things. It will cause you to better yourself without comparing your intelligence or anything else about you with that person or anyone else. Envy is a horrible state of heart and mind that affects everything in a person's life.
Jealousy is never a healthy emotion. It is a manifestation of a possessive nature and a lack of trust. We all (should) agree that being possessive of another person is unhealthy, even if they are your spouse (you don't own them). We all (should) agree that a healthy relationship cannot exist when either party doesn't trust the other. If I can't trust my partner, then they can piss right off since I don't have the time or energy to worry about what (or who) they're doing every time we're apart.
What's even more ridiculous is that if your God is real, He's jealous of _imaginary_ gods (He is the One True God after all). Please give me one example of a healthy mind being jealous of a person they know doesn't exist.
Muttley Mutt actually... fedora tip* envy is beneficial in a capitalist society. the baker bakes bread, not out of good will but because selling bread allows his to buy things that aren't his, that he wants. Envy is wanting something that isn't yours. It's why everyone goes to work, to make enough money to get the stuff that you envy.
Muttley Mutt envy is perfectly fine as long as you do the proper steps to acquire what you want and don't take short-cuts(stealing). Because envy is why the baker is selling bread. he wants your money more than his bread, so he sells it to you. He was envious of your money. You were envious of his bread. You traded. Now both of you are happier. Envy is seeing the world around you and wanting the best for yourself. It's not a bad thing. What you are or are not willing to do to get what you envy is your decision. envy itself is not bad.
We need more speakers or preachers like this. So many people use words out of context when we speak the word of God. Jealously to God is not jealousy as we’ve grown to redefine it as. it’s just like he said If we’re in a marriage why would you want your spouse with someone else ? God is so good he don’t even hate us when we DO choose other things over him while In marriage with him. How could not submit to something so loving? How many of us can do that or will do that ? How many of us have destroyed families damaged kids etc. because of that ? GOD IS AMAZING!!!
Dr. Turek ha really thought these answers through.
You can see the boy is misled to ask these questions, but perfectly welcome to.
It has not always been that answers like this could be given.
The knowledge has been there, but not the willingness to engage in such a dialogue.
That's what I think is so great about Dr. Turek doing this for people.
Jealousy, generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, and concern over a relative lack of possessions or safety. Jealousy can consist of one or more emotions such as anger, resentment, inadequacy, helplessness or disgust.
Yip , that sound like the god of the OT alright .
God isn't afraid
Or insecure
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Yet the bible says
“ god is a jealous god”
@@mickqQ that's today's definition, back In the old testament it had a slightly different definition. I believe that overtime people mistook jealousy for envy. The biblical definition of jealousy is," careful, watchful, guarding ones possessions". It's not that God wants what isn't his, it's more like he made us and we're already his, so if we worship false gods and not the one and only God, his jealousy is because he wants to keep his possessions,( us) because he cares for us and wants what's best. In the Bible Christians are meant to be slaves to God. As in servants not today's definition of slaves. It's kind of like a father hearing his daughter call another man her dad, the dad doesn't crave what isn't his, but what is already his.
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No it’s not
The definition of jealous is the same now as it was then,
Typical , dont like a trait god has so you try to redefining the word.
God is a vengeful jealous god
God created evil
I love the fact God is jealous. It means very much to me to know He loves me so deeply He can't stand me running off to some idol or drug or bad crowd. Yet he is so humble to respect my freewill that He can't force me to stop running. He will try to convict me to stop running. He passionately *wants* me to love Him. And Mr. Turek is right, it is for my benefit that I love God. And God loves, loving me.
Yet it means he is fallible with negative emotions. He commands us not to be covetous, yet he is?
It also means that if you are born in a country where they have a different religion than yours, like India, you will burn in hell forever. How does someone in Saudi Arabia have the same chance as an American to find Christ, and eventually heaven.
You are saying there are actually other gods that god is jealous of? There must be,otherwise god doesn't have to be jealous at all. But haven't you always believed there is only one god? Another man-made nonsense together with all the other nonsense proves there is no god,but you and people like mr.turek can say whatever you want as if you are the god.
@@henrytseng3475 "God" is a title and can be applied to anything (idols, money, drugs, and so on). He is the only living god, the others can do nothing for you; they can't save or solve your problems . . . they know nothing. Anything you put before God is breaking the first commandment: "You shall have no other gods before me."
@@readingswithjenna9714 Negative emotions aren't bad, first of all. God hates sin. Why? Because sin hurts people. He takes it very seriously. God is jealous. Why? Because we belong to him as his creation and when we abandon that relationship, he wants us back. That doesn't make him fallible at all. It makes him more worthy of our praise, in my opinion.
This is amazing thank you Jesus!
I am forever thankful for God being jealous. I once walked away from Him and He sent 2 woman to me 10 min later to minister to me and pull me back (never saw them before or since). I believe He is jealous of His children and He showed it to me. Thank you Jesus
But children being molested likely call out to God to be rescued, but their need goes unmet, prayers unanswered. I think it is far too easy to believe that God is real and God is good when you live in a relatively safe area or nation, and happen to have good health and other things.
It is a different story for people living in huts with no clean water. Parasites enter their body when they drink water.
Post Hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy. Lame.
Jealousy argument FALLACY: if your wife is leaving to go with someone else while ur still married...you are simply a guy getting cheated on. You may be angry, sad, indifferent etc...but you wouldn't exactly call that "jealous."
Dynamo Empire I think that in this video jealousy is the anger and sadness that would accompany the knowledge that the affection and intimacy that was promised to be only yours is now given to someone else.
Every analogy that we can make can never accurately depict God's mystery. The point here is that God is jealous for our own sake and not for His unlike human beings who sometimes get jealous for their own sake.
Him wanting us to follow Him for our benefit still doesn't explain why an all knowing being would be "jealous"
Jealous: "feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages" Seems like a strange word to use to describe a perfect being. I wonder if the translation is wrong or twisted somehow?
Worst thing is the Bible condemns jealousy all together, but it's perfectly fine if God does it.
“Let me say this the right way”. That’s what it all about right, twisting the words around to where they make your point rather than explaining what it really means.
I agree with you. The explanation was really twisted and I've heard this line of reasoning before, it's usually based on the need to support Calvinistic theology. I would say it this way, God's jealousy is simply about Him not wanting us to worship any other gods besides Him and it pisses Him off When His people do. Exodus 34:11.....
@@rwatson2609 thats not good enough. I feel like the example he gave was great. It put the context in a human perspective
Like your answer so much Dr. Turek!
It’s always amazing to me how confidently you seem to know god or the qualities of god or how the afterlife works. Yet we can’t demonstrate any of the qualities or the existence of an afterlife, and we use a only a book and take the word of people who have been dead for 2 thousand years for absolute truth. That is what atheists refer to faith being the belief in the absence of evidence, a very dangerous thing
Jesus resurrection was real though.
And he knows because the bible said it to be true.
Robert Nixon are you that naive and impressionable? The Bible says Noah built an impossible boat, Jonah lived in a fishes stomach for several days, the Red Sea parted, water into wine, etc. did these things happen too? Why is it that all these impossible things were possible for a period of a few thousand years and are no longer possible? The Bible is trash!
@@patpawlowski7635 Noah's ark was scientifically sound. Videos of evidence are in CZcams.
@@thedarkyellowpages4016 wrong. Think about the logistics and the implausibly of having a wooden ship 5hat size with that many animals on board that also successfully repopulated the planet. Come on, man. Open your eyes. Your religion is lying to you an stealing your money
I have watched a few videos of this gentleman, I am always skeptical when men speak on the deeper wisdom of G-d but this man does a good job, he deserves to be given a 3 to keep in his right pocket, I would be willing to bet his ring is Red.
What?
@@rabbitcreative Where?
All glory to his greatness, thank you God.
For those who don't know how to use a dictionary (glares at the religoius people) here's the actual defintion of Jealous: adjective
feeling resentment against someone because of that person's rivalry, success, or advantages (often followed by of): He was jealous of his rich brother.
feeling resentment because of another's success, advantage, etc. (often followed by of): He was jealous of his brother's wealth.
characterized by or proceeding from suspicious fears or envious resentment: a jealous rage; jealous intrigues.
inclined to or troubled by suspicions or fears of rivalry, unfaithfulness, etc., as in love or aims: a jealous husband.
solicitous or vigilant in maintaining or guarding something: The American people are jealous of their freedom.
Bible. intolerant of unfaithfulness or rivalry: The Lord is a jealous God.
NOtice how in the bible, Jealous is used to describe "Intolerance." By definition, Christians follow and intolerant god.
If you view God in an anthropomorphic light, its only logical that you would come up with anthropomorphic expectations.
This is just vain imagination.
What's the aim of the game? I couldn't care less if the truth aligned with human experience or not. Truth is truth. It's objective.
Does this thought make the Bible any less true? Does it make Jesus any less than who he said he was, and who the Bible tells us he is?
Random thoughts like this are uncessary and don't help one discern objective truth, but simply clouds judgement in the futility of the mind.
Ding, Ding, Ding! These people don't know The One True God. They have an image of what God is, that is proof that they know NOT who God is. An image means it's not God. God is unknowable.
He didn't like the answer, that's the generation that's coming.
Yep, skepticism is on the rise, critical thought is gaining traction, and the world is about to become a much better place.
Dino Hall lol worlds becoming a better place but because of science there’s been two world wars it’s only gonna get worse
@@kelly_1999 Science cause neither World War--they were caused mainly by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and Germany's invasion of Poland, respectively. What science did was develop the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, each of which actually only killed about as many people as a normal attack, albeit with one bomb.
Since WWII ended in 1945, there hasn't been another major conflict involving most of the world; throughout history, there have been 1-2 of these every 100 years. This has led some social scientists to speculate that the advent of globalization and modernity have brought an end to wars. If no new wars happen by 2050, we can be pretty confident we've left wars behind with phrenology and colonialism.
Now wait a minute that “generation” has been here all along Paul warned Timothy and Titus and the Corinthians and the Thessalonians. John warned his disciples. Peter warned his disciples. What we need to do as Christians is put ourselves in these skeptics place because we were them at one point. As a past “atheist” I had no one who could give me answers. They just told me Jesus was the way. Well why? I went to the source, his blueprint and love letter to us-the Bible. It from God demanded separation amongst all the man made fallible books out there. I demanded truth so much that God saw my soften heart towards it and revealed it to me Himself. It’s what he does with anyone who hears His call and responds to it (John 10 Romans 10) This kid (now granted this was recorded years ago I hope that God has granted repentance to him and has faith in Jesus now 2 Timothy 2) knows there is a God. The fact that he asked the questions proves he knows there is a God. It’s his unrighteousness that he uses to suppress the truth because he would rather pursue his sin than truth manifested and created in Jesus (John 3) (Romans 1) we need to separate in our hearts that Jesus is lord and be willing to give a defense for the truth that we have from Him and by Him and through Him with meekness and fear (1 Peter 3) (Colossians 1)
@@dinohall2595 "there hasn't been another major conflict involving most of the world"
Unfortunately, this isn't the definition of "getting better" there is still much killing going on, terrorism, etc. Your faith in humans is seriously misguided, considering mankind uses things that it discovers, with Science, to kill others. I am not sure what news you watch, but things don't look better, they look worse.
Take away all our guns? people will use knives.
Take away our knives? People will use a baseball bat.
Take away our baseball bats? People will use golf clubs... on and on, ad nauseam. Mankind isn't inherently good, it is inherently evil.
It is a good thing our Creator gave us a way out...
Wow.. this Frank Turek makes faith so much more interesting and urgent.
Amen I just gave my heart to the lord
I am jealous for my kids , what I mean by that I'm watchful for their good and protection . That is how I understand how YHVH is jealous over me , He wants the very best for me , that is why He set boundaries on behavior.
That's not jealousy.
I am a Christian.
I love Frank Turek's message about Jesus Christ.
But....
He is wrong here.
When the Holy Bible says God is Jealous this is an Anthropopathism.
An Anthropopathism ascribes to God human characteristics or emotions so our finite minds can understand an infinite God's feelings towards his creations.
God is never Jealous.
This just helps us to understand his feelings.
Are you sure there was a Jesse Crisp?
Perfect response. Praise the Lord.
What a great response