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#Overwatch - Hry
The cycle of 5v5:
"Just rework [hero] and the game will be good!" --> [hero] gets reworked --> game still feels like shit --> "Just rework [hero] and the game will be good!" --> continue ad infinitum
till the game is unrecognizable lol
@@eagerinspirit The game will die if they rework Rein.
"Just go back to 6v6"
"wElL tHeN yOu WoUlD hAvE tO rEwOrK aLl ThE hErOeS"
i can imagine that they will cave on it but do it really badly and go guys looks 6v6s is bad and doesnt work.
lets wait till they come to a realisation that they are in a cycle of eternal denial i guess, i dunno if they will understand anything we say, all they will say is we have nostalgia and the game just needs to be balanced better and certain heroes need to be reworked
It's amazing how much they eat their own tail instead of just admitting they were wrong and going back to 6v6.
I'm not a big ow fan but from what i heard the balance team seems to have been changed and the new team seems to be better. My guess would be that, IF 6v6 is better (i'd not know i never played the format) the team is trying to save face for a while longer while trying to convince the higher ups to eventually go back to 6v6.
I don't disagree, but "just going back to 6v6" isn't that simple
@@ironencepersonal9634 it's not but it's gonna get increasingly more difficult as they keep going with 5v5. I think if it's even remotely on their radar of possibility they need to start going in that direction now cause everything will have to be retweeked for 6v6 anyways. We've seen 5v5 not work for this many seasons if we can see it surely they can also they just won't take their foot out their mouths
@@ironencepersonal9634 "it's not that simple"
Literally a bunch of randoms DID IT BY THEMSELF.
Stop defending this shit.
@@Malxer I'm not saying we shouldn't go back to 6v6 as soon as possible, but it isn't as simple as just flipping a switch. It's going to take time. I can almost guarantee that the "bunch of randoms who did it by themselves" have a bunch of issues which won't show up with such a small and isolated playtest. (I'm assuming they playtested it).
6v6 I miss you
Same as someone who likes playing tank and support and my mains bing mercy and ROADHOG!!!! I miss 6v6 toooo
I feel dumb but, i miss you ;-;
Orisa got giga-nerfed and shes still meta, guess we need to rework her again! While we're at it lets rework every other tank, maybe that will fix the game! :D
I see Hog in literally every single game now, it's so obnoxious. Hate playing with him and against him, and nothing has changed about his identity compared to OW1 -except now there's no secondary tank to make up for all the bs he brings by not being a real team-based tank.
@@Real_MisterSirLiterally an 800 hp dps with heals ON A RECOURSE METER. All they’re doing is making tanks feel terrible both to play and play against. I was open minded to 5v5 but now the entire game is giga-fucked both balance and gameplay wise.
what god damn rank are you playing at where orisa is still meta
When 6v6 comes back we gotta call it overwatch 3
I think it will just ve called Marvel Rivals
@@recon1506ok, that was fucking clever.
@@recon1506once Marvel Rivals drops and all the OW streamers move to that game the player base will follow. And Blizzard will see the writing on the wall
Overwatch 3 - Heroes Return, PVE coming soon^TM
Lol if it comes back it's just OverWatch again
honestly samito might be the saviour for this game, keep pushing 6v6, keep doing tournaments in 6v6 etc, eventually, blizzard will crack
He's a streaming player. He doesn't work there. He has ZERO agency to change the game.
@@BrickArmsWill yea, that’s not the point. He is known which means he has a voice and can convince a large amount of people to vouch for 6v6, which puts pressure on blizzard
@@BrickArmsWillthe content creators definitely have a lot of control over the community than the devs. So they do have agency lmao😂
Literally will only ever occur when the game is on its last legs and about to be discontinued by Blizzard unless they do something crazy to shake up the game and get interest back in it. So, maybe like 5 years from now?
@@nahaight1373 They do not work for Blizzard. They have ZERO agency to change the game. One must work there, to do that. Do you see now?
The strongest weapon we player have, is just stop playing the game.... If we are not enjoying the game, and the devs don't listen to us, they will listen to a ghost town (game). If we cry every day about the state of the game, and keep playing it 24/7, the devs will not have any motive to make drastic changes...
Helldivers 2 has devs that listen and advocate for players. I thought it was impossible after years of Overwatch ignoring input.
It’s taking some of y’all too long to realize this
I've been doing my part since a year
I agree with you I used to play OW everyday faithfully for hours it was the only game I really played and I’m now playing other games trying different games out and enjoying some games I never thought I’d enjoy playing like Diablo V, League of Legends and other games of that style. I’ve always been an fps player but I’m branching out now.
@@dannyhernandez112 #d4bad
The really funny part is I've heard "this season launch has been worse than any season of overwatch" from multiple content creators about multiple seasons and I didn't feel like they were wrong.
Homer Simpson meme
"Worst season launch of any season SO FAR"
Also funny at this point people just being like "the tank experience is bad" and samito's over her yelling BECAUSE OF THE FORMAT! everytime like
"I think it's getting a bit hot in here"
"MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE"
"It's a bit smoky too"
6v6 is the only fix, and lets face it…Blizzard will die before they do that. We have to drop the game and vote with our wallets to force a change
6v6 won't come back...so why should we?
End of the year. 6v6
@@Vastspartanend of the year 5v5 switch to 4v4
Few months later: we will announce to close ow3 we are sorry for inconvenience of 4v4 thank you for your service
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD AND TEAM AARON
I’ve played Overwatch for 7 years and I still love the franchise, but I’m so sad this game came out like this after so long, I’m embarrassed to be an overwatch player man, time to move on to marvel rivals or something
Play marvel rivals bro it feels like old overwatch! So much fun playing it
SAME, it used to be a "whatever" thing when I said I played Overwatch, and now it's embarrassing. My friends and I mainly only play Total Mayhem anyway, since it's more fun for us (most of the time), but damn. DAMN.
They really do try to make it difficult to love the game. I didn't realise they released the mid-season patch so I checked it out. Pathetic honestly. 8 characters buffed, but not buffed by a lot. Poor Hanzo gets a dragonstrike buff when they know he needs his oneshot back. Graviton Surge buffed, ok? Gravitic Flux buff, why?. Echo duplication buff, seems random. Junkrat buff, yeah cuz he is dogshit. Rally buff, did she really need it? JQ buff/QOL, good. Ball buff, he could use all the help that he can get. Is this going to change the meta? HIGHLY DOUBT IT. Tank passive buff, all I can hear is Hog and Mauga's fat ass walking into the room. Oops, now I guess they are going to run the metal ranks EVEN MORE. They change the DPS passive at the start of the season to reduce the impact of these changes on Hog and Mauga but I don't think it did anything since they were the top dogs after Orisa got nerfed.
@@Chazza-01 every patch like this just makes me go "HHHHHHHOUUUUUGHGHHoughhghffhfmmmmhh." which is a very strained and pained sigh.
90% of new content is still designed around 6v6 because 5v5 was a last second panic move in marketing. It is as simple as changing numbers to get 6v6 running in a better state than 5v5.
So being a free to play game Is Stupid???
they have been playing a nice 6v6 version in scrims ya
@CReeseMLP_YT no, F2P was the best idea they've had in a long time. We didn't need to go 5v5 when going F2P. It was to build hype acting like 5v5 is a totally different game.
@Noobish_Camper55 no it was so legally they could rework the monetization of the game without giving us the pve content bobby washed money with.
Sam this crusade is awesome. If nothing else documenting this whole saga is well worth it
I've never heard one person during my entire time on OW1 recommend, mention, think, demand, ask for 5v5.
Yea all i heard was 7v7 this n that till it got leaked. No one could picture this.
Feels like we hear the same praise and complaints simultaneously every season lol
almost like the fundamental issues with the game haven't been solved..
@@eagerinspirit nah that can't possibly be it
@@XokzuSurely another rework or two will get us back on track🤔
@@fizzyjizz7374genius conclusion Watson!
@@fizzyjizz7374 CLEARLY Genji needs a nerf and Sym needs a new rework, that will solve it allllll
Speaking of the chat ban, I am glad nobody reported me when I said that the Blizz devs are "fucking methheads" after I got silver players in my diamond games. And its not even their fault cuz they just wanna play with friends.
I still think they are, especially with how often they don't actually try to address any of the problems balance wise.
Like how in the hell is Kiriko gonna be a legitimate balancing nightmare without any explanation as to why.
I got a warning after saying "our DPS players are on controllers again" (I watched the replay, they were).
@@blahblah49000 bruh, if youre in an elo where pc players are using controllers in your ranked game, thats a you issue. not a game issue.
@@kregman6928 console cross play
@@kregman6928did he say it was? Or did he say the fact. He spoke truth, n a simple truth and he got a warning for it was. You found someone worse at the game then you though congrats your ego big filled?
@@kregman6928 Bruh, I didn't say it was comp. Reading comprehension--your "you issue."
That Linus ad was so well timed
editor here! i was so tempted to edit it into a meme, but I didn't want to take it away from the main topic lol but I'm so glad I'm not the only one that enjoyed that
@@Pxterz im glad you left it as is haha
I love how people in favor of 5v5 have the (allegedly good) argument of "we need 5v5 cus of queue times".
Counterpoint: I play majority quickplay, and even there, how come tank queue is INSTANT 24/7 every day of the week -while dps queue takes on average 5-10x longer (I measured this over multiple days. 5x being the closest in proximity, 10x being the furthest). Actually one day it was closer to 50x worse dps queue time compared to tank (20 seconds vs nearly 10 minutes), but I'll write it off as an outlier. In what world is that positive where I can queue tank within 10-20 seconds, but dps typically takes between 2-5 minutes? And that's on a good day. We removed 50 PERCENT of all tank players, and we still have horrendous queue times. If that isn't a clear indicator 5v5 didn't actually solve anything, then idk what is.
Maybe if we just focus on making the tank experience ENJOYABLE (aka 6v6 lends itself far better for this), maybe just maybe we'd start seeing improved queue times. Hell, at the very worst case we'll have the same bad queue times as we do now, but at least those who DO queue, won't have a shitfest of an experience playing hold-the-line tankswap stomp-or-get-stomped mayhem.
I would instantly Q tank again, and like 3 of my friends would do too
Im currently not even playing the game, since 5v5 it has felt fucking dogshit, not really worth it.
But i do expect we go back to 6v6 eventually, OW has the potential to be huge but if the gameplay sucks, it wont have a chance. I think Sams prediction of like 6 more seasons of this bs sounds about right, but after that we need 6v6.
Only concern is, we pushed away so many tank players and just people in general with 5v5/OW2, will the Q times be alright? If OW2 had launched with 6v6 and F2P, Live-Service, etc. then no doubt that would have had good Qs
But now the game leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths, the only way i see the game becoming big again is a rebrand to just "Overwatch"
Anyways, the last 2 years have been horrible, i have watched my favourite game ever turn into something unrecognisable, that feels nothing like the OW i loved.
If 6v6 returns, so will I
B-b-but double shield and OP tank synergies 🥺🥺🥺
On a more serious note, I’ve also had a similar experience to you (and probably every tank main). Tank ques are instant. If I have to take a bathroom break, I don’t even get into que because I know by the time I get back, the game will already have started.
After a particularly brutal series of matches, I decided to take a break from tank and play dps. Took about 2 minutes, but I’m so used to tank ques that it felt like forever. I’m in gold right now, so I know I have the best case scenario in terms of queue times. I can’t even imagine how bad the queue time disparity between tank and other roles gets the higher and higher you go.
The matchmaker is practically foaming at the mouth waiting for someone to queue tank to complete games at this point. No surprises though. Solo tanking just blows. If you are aggressive, people complain about you not peeling enough. If you focus on peeling and play more passively, people complain about you not taking enough space. It’s almost like only have one character in a role puts too much responsibility on that one character.
I love how 5v5s will use queue times as an agrument but the queue times are practically the same as end OW1 and that game was dead 💀. Legit OW1 never had queue time issues until the devs killed it off and abandoned it for 3 years. ALSO, they actively said that double sheild was the most balanced the game was even though every one said October 17th patch was the best but the devs said "We know better than you".
@@supershotgun6921 yup, game was dead for 2 years and had TWICE the amount of tank slots to fill, yet it wasn't any different from the current situation which also benefits from player influx and wider (aka worse) matchmaking in all game modes..
man, Marvel rivals is loking better and better every day...
Im sayin😂
That's because it is. Even in Alpha, it's so much fun!
No it’s not
You smoking crack if you think marvel is not good that game is cracked!@@JohnIvoryMusic
I hope rivals does good enough to actually be a competitor to OW and force them to make better decisions.
During the first few minutes, i didn't listen to what flats said because i was too busy looking at GreyFalconOW's comment that the way to fix tanks is to make them MORE LETHAL TO ATTRACT DPS PLAYERS.
Yeah, make tanks more into dps, great damn idea.
Getting banned for casual trash talk is so dumb, if someone calls me trash after losing a game I don't fucking care, they're mad and will be mad for a couple minutes, shit happens, and I'll move on with my life
The RIGHT thing to do is to never play another Blizzard game as long as you live. Stop giving them your money when they don't respect you in the slightest
@@Mr.Ford3350 yeah, I don't give this company any money, I'd rather buy plat in Warframe
Dude, I got suspended for typing the word "ur Fat". As someone used to play call of duty this is ridiculous.
Yeah, there is really no *reason* to trash talk. Just play the game. Stop pretending it is *your life*. Get out and meet people.
@@BrickArmsWill You are soft. Weak.
Trash talk and banter is a fun part of playing games and trying to squelch it is only going to make people explore other ways to troll people that doesn't technically run afoul of the rules. What you'll get is a bunch of people full of vitriol hidden behind a veil of false smiles and no way to get that energy out.
For the 5v5 defenders how are q times better when I play quick play and I have my team without a DPS, Support or a Tank for a minute or two before someone actually ques?
So in 6v6 for every QP game you had every spot filled for every game for the entire game?
26:00 is the highlight of the video. i'm surprised flats mentioned 6v6.
Flats uploaded a video on the whole twitter drama over the format and he knows the issues with both formats. Neither is perfect but he's trying to figure out which is better
@footur3179 he's just fence sitting so he doesn't bad mouth blizzard and keep all his benefits. I mean am I the only one who notices his bs?
@@fullnelson4986 You say that as if he doesn't call out blizzard for all the stupid shit they do
@@footur3179 I say that as if it's been 10 seasons of this bs and flats was a tank main converted into a quick play warrior and STILL fence sits on weather 5v5 or 6v6 is better but anyone who is a tank main pre ow2 would KNOW 5v5 is shit yet he has kept quiet to stay in that sweet sweet partner program...
@@fullnelson4986it’s pretty obvious lmao😂
Everything about ranked this season is just horrible. Before season 10 I was easily in diamond on every role. Now if you get one bad loss streak, it feels impossible to climb up. Just yesterday I lost a game and lost 32% because apparently it was a terrible lose even though the game went into overtime. Won my next game and when 26-0. Only 4% up... Like make it make sense. You get hard punished for losing a single game and barely anything for winning a game. Doesn't matter if I solo queue or party up, it just isn't rewarding. They said solo queuing would be better, this is the worst experience I've had solo queuing since starting to play ow2
OW1 comp felt the same way. Easy win, gain a lot. Fight hard for a win that felt impossible, gain little. Get totally stomped in a match no one could have won in: lose a lot, as if it were entirely your fault.
The most frustrating part of OW2 is that the game is so close to being amazing with QOL stuff they’ve done with some of the features, But the devs insist on dropping the ball every time with the balancing and doubling down on the 5v5 format. Going back to 6v6 would immediately fix the major pain points of OW2, while they could work on the balancing and updates . The game should feel like you can express yourself in what you want to play firstly and then we can adjust balance as needed.
I think you should honestly try to have flats and emongg join your 6v6 pugs and let them play tank together again and they would fold and push for the 6v6 composition again.
Idk that sweet partner program might be to good to give up
I love playing Venture
I HATE playing against Venture
Sounds like the avg Sombra experience in the making
Idk I disagree, I think most heroes have options to deal with venture except maybe brig. He’s bad if you can space him out, or if you have a shotgun, or if you have mobility, or if you have CC
Honest question: who is out here saying venture is OP? She has good burst damage combing abilities but they got rid of the one shot combo. Venture is useless vs flyers, tanky heroes, snipers, etc. The ult feels really underwhelming most of the time because of how situational the 'ultimate' is. I've played a lot of venture and the real value from the hero comes from burrowing and surprising people for a close range combo while refilling your ammo.
@@metal100k They got rid of the one-shot combo in the same sense they got rid of Hog's one-shot combo. Aka in technicality on paper from raw numbers, yes. But in context of a match, a lot of times you still get one-shot easily (or what feels like it).
Anyways, Venture ofc isn't OP. She's very situationally strong to a perhaps broken degree, but it's not a situations he can actively enforce on her own at a low skill floor vs equally skilled opponents. And at the very least, her being OP or not is not related to my comment so idk if I should even engage in that debate. I don't see her as OP at all, just as situationally broken / obnoxious depending on context, more so than most other heroes.
@Real_MisterSir I wasn't referring to your comment, specifically. Flats in the video, as well as op talk about how some say they are op. Or at least frustrating.
Tbh they aren't even situationally broken. A lot of heroes in the situations they are strong in would likely succeed as much as they do. Ult is borderline useless. The real strength and uniqueness of venture comes down to the burrowing which, they can't buff because it's an immort that can contest objectives and already reloads the gun. You play around venture like you play around a brig, with distance and mobility. Every time I see my team struggle against a venture I go like soldier or junk and play a way from the team and I can punish the venture going for the team or I can easily run away if they go for me.
It's wierd that Winston has more ranged options than venture. Winston has damage denial and great mobility on top of that too. I know it's crossing roles but even in the dps role, junk can have just as high burst damage. Reaper is good up close and has a similar immort in wraith. Mei is God tier close range threat that can wall off supports. I'm just struggling to find the exception for venture you know?
OW2 is the definition of insanity
appreciate Sam more for talking about this when no one else will, God bless
They all talk about it. It stems mostly from the effects of a declining player base, which makes their high-level queue times excessively long. Players at that level just aren't around any more.
Single tank is all about which tank is OP relative to the other. Every season has been that way. Either it's Winston, or JQ, or Zara, or Mauga, or Orissa, etc.
The tanks just play musical chairs because you cannot play off of synergies to exploit weaknesses. They've also buffed them to the point that weaknesses are less exploitable, or the counters are weaker.
I'm glad you two are close, good, genuine minds that contrast each other in ways that I think work well. You flats and super are the 3 I watch the most by far. Thanks for the content brother
Seriously, penalties for leaving QP/unranked games is insane. The XP penalty in OW1 was stupid but meaningless. Now it just causes more toxicity. Like the Circuit Royale game I was in recently where after 4 minutes my DPS had 0 elims and the other team's had 40. I watched the replay after and saw that our DPS was playing on a controller, holding down the button and shooting the ground, walls, and the payload most of the time. The other team's DPS were on keyboard/mouse and were essentially uncontested. But if I dare to leave the game a minute early, because the cart hasn't moved in 3 minutes and I can barely walk out of spawn, oh, I'm the bad guy. And if I ask what's wrong with our DPS in match chat, I get reported for INAPPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION. And if I sit in spawn, I get reported for AFK. And if I walk into the enemy team and die to avoid that and the AFK timer, I get reported for INTENTIONALLY FEEDING.
WHAT IS A TANK PLAYER SUPPOSED TO DO!??! I had more elims than our DPS! The only winning move is not to play. Great job, Blizzard.
atp the only way to avoid getting reported from afk is to program a macro that makes you move around in "unpredictible" but the same lines
Yeah, the only option is to just throw to get the match over with, and hope the next game is what you want.
No wonder you can't queue for a map you like. It would highlight how few players there are actually playing the game.
They could just rerelease OW1 and everyone would be happy.
Ha. Nice try. Old maps, too? Old matchmaking? The IDENTICAL PLAYER BASE? Good luck with that.
@@BrickArmsWill re-releasing the old ip doesn't mean restricting it to the original playerbase or matchmaking lol
I honestly wish people did more 6v6 custom games more often. I very rarely see any when I look.
Yeah custom games in general are all but vapors these days. There used to be 5 pages of games, now you're lucky to get one.
Asked this before but is there anywhere we can actually petition to bring back 6v6???
I bet those owl players were really devastated that some sweaty failed pro career stacks were beating them in ranked after they probably spent the entire day scrimming.
I remember Flats glazing bliz for the tank buffs, and now he's suddenly like "oh the tanks are terrible to play against and as"
also, and i could be totally wrong about this, but I feel like push and flash point are steam-roll-centric game modes period. I haven't ran them with a full stack, but if you're assuming it's a solo/duo group with randoms, you're asking significantly more of the players in the lobby to coordinate for those two game modes versus the other game modes. The maps are too large with too much variety, and it's a frustrating experience when your team loses half of a fight and now has to wait a minute to reset because two or three of your players have to run it back from spawn. More often than not, someone gets greedy for a pick and now your team is divided again, or someone over-extends while players are running back and by the time they get to the fight the next team fight is already lost. It's just an endless cycle of bullshit because the maps are huge with too many places you need to be in order to be contributing passive value to your team.
None of this is a problem in theory. In theory your team mates just play properly and don't commit when they shouldn't. In theory you should still be able to make the same uncoordinated pushes you'd make on a payload. But in practice, it's far easier for it to not work out that way. And now your game is lost from the jump, or theirs, because the maps and modes aren't conducive to coordination and proximity.
Streamers under contract with Blizz will hype up each season with "OW IS BACK ZOMG" videos then their true opinions show up at the end of the season. Such hypocrisy. Wish community was more critical of them.
I played almost exclusively tank for the majority of OW1. I imagine being a new player trying to learn tank in 5v5 is a pretty overwhelming and thankless task. Everyone else in the game has a counterpart to support them but the tank -- the expectation is that players should just intrinsically know how to both control space and protect their team as a singular tank. It was a far more intuitive role in 6v6 because two tanks shared those responsibilities, much like one support can still focus on utility while the other focuses on raw healing output. I don't envy new players approaching the daunting role of tank, and it shows in average metal rank matches. The only time I hop on tank myself is when I get sick of noob tanks and just want to carry a few wins.
The golden age of OW2.
Those 3 days of dive.
It's been taking over 20 minutes to find a game for duo
I hear you Samito....but I can't give a pass for the dev's, when OW1 competitive system had the best matchmaking of any multiplayer game I ever played.
did it really? have u only played 1 game?
@@mryellow6918 it wasnt perfect, but as someone who did play ow1 comp for atleast 300 hours. It was pretty damn solid. I could genuinely do what I wanted, and a steam roll game was a rarity for me. It was always close and frustrating to lose or euphoric to win. It was nice. Not anymore though lol
@@mryellow6918 it was better then ow2 the amount of stream rolls in this game is crazy
Still crazy that they don’t just chat restrict you instead of banning you
Funny enough even in paladins 5v5 it is most common to draft 2 tanks 1 support and 1-2 damage/flanks because unless your can build a comp around 1 tank it’s not optimal lol
You know something very similar happened to gears of war 5 back in the day, For a long time it was always a competitive 5v5 game, but the developers adjusted the competitive matches as a 4v4 and that took away all the fun, it declined significantly. So, I don't know, never prioritize the competitive community I guess
Thats why i quit and went back to seige and the finals
You can find out the person's real name by just blocking them in the player menu lol.
Was there ever a sizable portion of the playerbase that actively campaigned and advocated for 5 v 5? Or was it a top-down change that the players weren't asking for? Or a combo of both? I don't recall ever seeing anyone saying "Please bring the game to a 5 v 5 format," but I could be wrong
The day they ban IPs for smerfing is the day this game die. I couldn't imagine waiting a hour for 1 game let alone 30mins. What is this a MMO raid
The thumbnail is funny as fuck dude. It’s so over the top.
LOL had me dying when i first saw it too
Orisa was a problem in OW1 with a shield and she's still a problem in OW2 without a shield
Patiently waiting for Overwatch implosion, and I’ll keep playing Star Lord on Marvel Rivals 😂
I can get when things break, just miss the days when you buy a game and it just works without having to wait for the games entire seasonal cycle to get a somewhat playable game 😭
As a tank main (I know it’s painful as is) this has been the worst tank by a long shot. I am either truly indestructible probably the most I’ve been in any season, as Mauga so long as I have even minor heals I’m a menace. Alternatively I get melted like butter by specific comps. It’s definitely not fun for me whether I’m winning or losing and I know it isn’t fun for my team or the enemies.
Blizzard planning a rein rework/buff to keep Flats after this video
Only reason I play Overwatch is for Reinhardt. Such a fun tank, too bad I suck thoigh 😂
If only game devs wrote updates to appease a single individual. Keep dreaming.
My cope is that if someone has to ult to win against you, that’s a compliment
honestly i liked mineplexs siege mode any idea why you removed this mode I jump from game to game because of boredum but I loved that one and when I lasted joined couldn't find it anymore
*Game continually gets worse and worse*
We must be making good progress guys!
That Ad while Flats was talk was gold
Man I just want to play marvel rivals
It's still a long way from being good enough consistently, it is an alpha after all. Still, same man, rather play an alpha of a fun looking game than play a bad game.
@@arbalest327 I don’t have a key 😭 I want to play it so bad. I’m glad you’re getting to enjoy it tho!
@@Freesliterature I don't have a key lmao, not yet. I'm waiting just like you.
@@arbalest327 good luck then, I’m hoping the next beta/alpha is open
Is this a clip from Flats’ Stream or a posted video? I can’t find on either of Flats’ YT channels
The video keeps saying check out the original video by flats but there’s no link or title of the original???
This reminds me of the key and peele skit where Obama has an anger translator 😂
22:20 is so on point for the video
"this is a horrible gaming experience"
You should try Marvel Rivals. You’d enjoy it
waited 40 mins in a "wide que" and never ended up getting a game before i gave up, friend who never been placed before, my acc being high plat and havent placed in many seasons, and the other was gold.....
Step 1: Hire Samito. They wouldnt need that much of his time (can still do Mineplex).
Step 2: Fix game. Dude barely misses and even if when he does, his success rate is better compared to the OW2 track record.
You can be sure that if they wanted to, they would do so. They know about him - he just isn't a good fit, so far.
@@BrickArmsWill he isnt a good fit because:
a) California is soft af (Durpee being banned for saying 'shit' lmfao)
b) Their egos would shattered - 7ish years and still dont know how to balance their own game
The devs dont seem to understand that yes, 'the data' does not lie... but it can be misinterpreted LOL
you should play some marvel rivals man it is amazing
I already feel so bad for the all the tank players stuck in a toxic relationship with ow2 and persist through the awful tanking experience despite it all. And I feel even worse for them now knowing that they will have to up with this for a minimum of 5 or 6 more seasons. That's rough...
They are buffing ball again we he doesn’t need it mercy and ball are 2 hero that if they have 0 deaths u automatically win or loose
The problem with reporting is that an account can be banned for FALSE REPORTS. A player who literally never speaks in game can still be banned for INAPPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION if enough players report him citing that reason. It doesn't matter if a player follows the TOS. So the whole reporting system is essentially a way for players to vote on what they want to see in their games, and if enough players vote against you (which can easily happen if you're a solo playing with and against groups of immature people), you can get voted out, and Blizzard will then look for any reason to justify the ban post-facto. It's a farce, and Blizzard knows it, but Blizzard doesn't care. The only solution is to vote with our feet and play other games.
This is the real reason he seldom talks in-game chat to the other players. Once they clock him as Samito, they try to kill his accounts through false reporting.
The last time I reported someone was a tank that kept feeding, and when I asked him to re-group and stop feeding he goes on to throw and whine/slurs for the whole second round of the match. I swear he was a 5 y/o with a 45 y/o voice. Other than that talk shit, t-bag, be competitive. Just don't be a douche bag.
Tank main here.
I've played SIGNIFICANTLY less tank this season, playing an absolute ton of Lucio and I've actually been having fun???!?!!
Just wait 'til your boops are less boopy. No more fun.
I’ll never forget when OWL first started and the Team Envyus Dallas fuel stacked on stream and got shit on for over an hour straight. No wins
18:50 - Flats unironically explains what the Snowball Effect is.
Infinite wisdom. 💀
Former tank main here....4th time quiting OverWatch since the beginning!
I hear you. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it countless times!
@BrickArmsWill yeah it's unfortunate bc we see the potential and it's fallen to the wayside.
anyone got the clips/vids of teh hitman stacks. i'm interested as missed ow1
"6vs6 cannot be balanced and leads to many issues". Then you have the new Marvel Rivals smashing it that is a 6vs6 hero shooter. The Design team at Blizz has no excuses.
Actually, Marvel Rivals is not doing so well
@@Ajaylix_history_shortsit's literally in alpha
@@Ajaylix_history_shorts It's in alpha you idiot, with characters and abilities far crazier than Overwatch AND destructible terrain, and it's still more balanced.
@@Ajaylix_history_shorts The reception is very positive so far, even if the game is still in alpha.
Marvel rivals isn't even at actual release date. I wouldn't count any chickens before they hatch, especially with the clunky mobile game style.
The add right after flats talking about hog and he said this is a terrible gaming experience lmao
i left OW like 2 years ago, i can't belive the drama it's exactly the same xd
So were weapon inspects and stuff gone with pve too? lol everyone forgot about it
Bro the self awareness of the ads is crazy
Hey Sam have you seen Awkward's video on counter swapping?
Tank is still ass? What do you mean Flats? Freedo just said Tanking is back!
Wait wide queue has been bugged? Can someone please explain for a console player who doesn’t play much bc this season was a massive indirect nerf to ana
I mean from like seasons 3-5 the game was in a pretty decent spot where a lot of heroes were viable.
The only heroes who weren’t good were release Lifeweaver, and Hog.
Then they buffed Orisa and Bastion, while also releasing Illari.
I think we can all agree No one "hates" Flatz some of us people just thought he was to nice almost brown noser level it felt like but this is a nice change... Speak your mind Flatz, SPEAK IT!
Lmao the ad at 22:15 is perfectly times
6v6 on top!!
I literally got a chat warning on an account I exclusively typed "glhf meow" and "ggwp meow" every game.
People were pissed bc I hard rolled lobbies since it was a freshie and reported me.
Ive put in chat that a particular player carried the other team on 2 different occasions… no curse words no nothing… the next day i got warnings on my account for trash talk and threatening to ban and mute me. Ridiclously soft bs
Love you sam
Glad to see flats finally snap and spew some truths about the current state of the game too
I was 100% against 5v5 the MILLISECOND it was announced. I knew it would be complete dogshit. The smart ones knew it would be dogshit. 6v6 will usher in a better period eventually. I'll be waiting.
Nahhh😂 1hr queue time is wild😂
Sam, isn't mid-season patch the tank patch? You're reacting to an earlier video.
I miss playing tank, it's my favorite role by far, but it blooooooows.
they should add a 6v6 mode and just see how it goes
The quick play penalties for leaving suck ass. My computer crashes (I have a new one ordered). I get penalized for crashing now. How is it that they can’t tell the difference between crashing and selecting “leave match” or “exit game”? I have a feeling that they can tell, but are too lazy to code it in.