Rivian Road Trip To South Carolina! Fantastic Charging Heading Out Of Colorado - Part 1

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  • @ulfw
    @ulfw Před 6 měsíci +19

    The Motoring videos are my favourite by you Kyle. Please keep them coming!

  • @DrEarbuds
    @DrEarbuds Před 5 měsíci +7

    Where is Part 2 of this video ? I'll edit it for you .

  • @Robert-pm6bm
    @Robert-pm6bm Před 6 měsíci +16

    Kyle throwing shade at Beak “even the model 3 could make this trip quicker”

    • @austina4189
      @austina4189 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Old Model 3 should theoretically be faster over a longer distance than new model S, right? Same 250kW curve with significantly more efficiency

    • @Robert-pm6bm
      @Robert-pm6bm Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@austina4189 the S has a stronger curve and longer range. That would actually be a good comparison video

  • @MikeO-dr7hn
    @MikeO-dr7hn Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this; looking forward to part 2 as that part of the trip can be "interesting".

  • @bretjohnson387
    @bretjohnson387 Před 6 měsíci +6

    So reminiscent of your older road trip videos. Love it!

  • @LeonardoProserpi
    @LeonardoProserpi Před 6 měsíci +16

    So happy to see new road trip on this channel, loving EV trips and is also for me a chance to see USA form Italy, thanks guys! (Waiting for an Italy trip from you!)

    • @skorpion1298
      @skorpion1298 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Me and my wife did a 2500km Tesla Model Y trip through Italy and it was awesome :)

  • @carperdiem8754
    @carperdiem8754 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Curious to see if you can get your hands on a max pack and what charging curve looks like on that

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I think we will see the most improvements in 2024 with hundreds of more locations throughout the USA this year.
    I've been driving EVs since 2018, and every trip I take more DC fast chargers are on the way.
    Oklahoma City just got a new 16 stall, 250 kw units, and 10 level two units at 625 NE 36th St, Oklahoma City, OK 73105.

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Just to make sure, are you talking about the new Tesla charger for the 250 kW units? As for the level two chargers at 625 how many kilowatts are there in what plug do they use? I live in Lawton and I cannot wait till we get a supercharger here. I have two cars with free supercharging that whenever I come back into town I could top off before going home. The Oklahoma City 150 kW chargers at the outlet we’re always busy so I’m glad those 250s will relieve the pressure.

    • @davidws5439
      @davidws5439 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @roydelpozo4816 Yes, 16 version 3 Tesla 250 kw chargers by the new Homeland store and 10 level two probably 11.5 kw units, and they also have a couple of other brands of J1772 in the parking lot. All the Tesla chargers are working for sure.
      Look on your Tesla navigation and you will see them.
      Tesla also had another supercharger station going in aronf Reno and Classen by the Sonic drive-in, but it is not working or started yet.

    • @davidws5439
      @davidws5439 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @roydelpozo4816 They are Tesla NACS connectors.
      Francis Energy has a lot of DC fast chargers in Oklahoma. You really need to get the RFID card in advance so you have your credit card info and account set up. EA has CCS1 DC fast chargers at Walmart in Moore, Oklahoma.

  • @farmedb314
    @farmedb314 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I was so excited to see the service mode, then so disappointed to find out that it has been locked behind a 5 digit password in an OTA.

  • @TechnicalLee
    @TechnicalLee Před 6 měsíci +5

    Kyle, I'm surprised you haven't gotten the Magic Dock EVSE for at home yet! That would be a good fit for you since you have both Tesla and J1772 cars. The mounting is the same as the Tesla EVSE, so it's a pretty easy swap. Ask Tom.

  • @nathanwolf5547
    @nathanwolf5547 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It’s always great to hear all of these famous names that you pass through. I love a road trip video.

  • @steveyoung9687
    @steveyoung9687 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thanks! I'm getting ready to do the drive from Denver to Charlotte for the first time in my Rivian for Christmas. Glad to have you scout the first bit of the route through KS for me. I generally continue on 70 through St. Louis and then start cutting down - but not going via Memphis.
    Also super interesting to see the best way to scope out the next charging stop - didn't realize the interface was different using the search function.

  • @GoodGameOKC1
    @GoodGameOKC1 Před měsícem

    I just took delivery of a R1S on Monday and watched several of your videos before hand. I enjoy the videos because I don't have any plans of taking long road trips, but cool to see it done.

  • @nightwheel
    @nightwheel Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hey, a Walmart deli is always a low-key good option to grab a hot lunch from. They even have a plate lunch option usually. I mean yeah their delis definitely do not have many options available as a regular restaurant. However I do personally find their potato wedges to be frankly amazing. I personally rank them up there with McDonald's french fries.

  • @thenetworkarchitectchannel
    @thenetworkarchitectchannel Před 6 měsíci +1

    Cool vid. Saw u after this at the ATL Mercedes event. Cool to see a sweet road trip leading up to that b4 the RR detour. Great content as of late. Thx 4 vid. I enjoyed watching

  • @austincappon3953
    @austincappon3953 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Forest Edge interior with your new wrap is prime. I had a similar combo in a loaner vehicle and I fell in love with it.

  • @lilricky2515
    @lilricky2515 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I've always wondered why electric charging stations don't have windshield cleaning stations, especially those at gas stations.

  • @matthewmaine6723
    @matthewmaine6723 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Where’s part 2?
    Love the content ❤

  • @dianewallace6064
    @dianewallace6064 Před 6 měsíci +1

    40:00 We have a Red Canyon R1T Launch. Thank you for this content.

  • @waynecaro3850
    @waynecaro3850 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hey Kyle. Love your videos. Could you do a video on how to prepare for and handle various issues that could happen when road tripping far from home (especially in not-so-populated places).

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste.. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

  • @Kmelnuk1
    @Kmelnuk1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My latest road trip in the R1S we got up to about 53 C without any limitations to charging speed, but it was throttling as the charge got more full. Was in Florida in about 68 F ambient temp.

  • @Dresslerchris
    @Dresslerchris Před 6 měsíci +1

    Im just down the road in Simpsonville and work for Magna!

  • @eazymoney6158
    @eazymoney6158 Před měsícem

    I did this trip last week it took me 5 days there and back I had a great trip alone , I’m still getting flashbacks of going man I really want to go back 😢. It was my first time going somewhere alone and I had a good experience in my Subaru Crosstrek

  • @NerdCityTV
    @NerdCityTV Před 6 měsíci +1

    No way Kyle is in my backyard! lol. That's AWESOME! BMW Performance is only 10 minutes from me. I enjoy riding by BMWPC on a daily to see people on the skid pad or using the off-road course. Hopefully, we will cross paths one day.

  • @jeffbovard-levesque3509
    @jeffbovard-levesque3509 Před 6 měsíci

    That red lighted water tower just outside of Wichita just over the Oklahoma border was at the Rock & Brews Casino where I work! Love seeing landmarks where I've been across the country.

  • @MrLogansimmons
    @MrLogansimmons Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey! I like my Niro EV's beeping sound. :)

  • @lemon_moon3714
    @lemon_moon3714 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Omg your new friend pat is my bfs dad, dude that is crazy

  • @allaboutjoey_
    @allaboutjoey_ Před 4 měsíci +6

    part 2??

  • @CountVonC4
    @CountVonC4 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Tulsa native here, so cool to see my town on your map. Glad you had a good charging experience here. Cheers

  • @CncObsession
    @CncObsession Před 6 měsíci

    Run the Talimena Parkway and run the Northern part of Arkansas to Memphis. I found Francis worked ok, I had to call once but they turned it on remotely. The use of a home charger regardless of brand while on the road is first come first served IMO. As a Tesla driver, I carry every adapter and my home charger with 3 pigtails. and a tow strap and the eye.

  • @shane80002007
    @shane80002007 Před 6 měsíci +1

    In navigation route planning can’t you unselect electrify america to give you a better route plan? If so would be nice in the next video to see the difference

  • @edmundhayes1840
    @edmundhayes1840 Před 6 měsíci

    Loving Hayes, Kansas. What a name!

  • @mattressoverstock5261
    @mattressoverstock5261 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Kyle, curious how you were able to get access to Ride app?

  • @royalpowr4225
    @royalpowr4225 Před 3 měsíci

    Used the Francis 350Kw in Belle Plaine, credit card would not work, downloaded the app and it worked great and now I have a card like you as well. I swapped to the because the Wichita SC was full with 2 waiting and 1 enroute...so Francis came in handy.

  • @contrivereality
    @contrivereality Před 6 měsíci +1

    my SOH is at 96% after 30k miles. We took delivery within a few days of one another.

    • @contrivereality
      @contrivereality Před 6 měsíci

      Also love the dog hair in your dash speaker assembly. Looks very familiar to mine!

    • @contrivereality
      @contrivereality Před 6 měsíci +1

      $5 for 20 minutes of charging at that rate! Crazy! They cannot be making money taking into account demand charges.

  • @JohnSmith-ug5ci
    @JohnSmith-ug5ci Před 5 měsíci

    I do thank you for these videos. While I would NEVER consider any of today's EVs because I consider them a scam, grossly overpriced, too short a range, too long to charge, and on road trips too expensive to charge, your videos do keep me informed at what is not yet available. Hopefully this changes in the near future and I will look into a purchase. That being said you need to dump that inefficient Rivian and host a Cyber truck for us to see the truth about it.

  • @vacache
    @vacache Před 5 měsíci

    What is the red drink you get from SB's?
    Also, I like seeing how you spend the time while at the pump. That's always a big thing, someone has 45 minutes to sit and charge, what are they doing during that time.
    Great vids btw

  • @jager6863
    @jager6863 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hey Kyle, Heard that the SUV R1S is really loud, as the rear motor and air compressor "Boom" is the rear cargo/passenger area. Looking at the two motor R1S, but I don't want a loud EV. Looking at a Volvo C40 or XC40 electric as well. Thoughts?

    • @davidcottrell570
      @davidcottrell570 Před 6 měsíci +1

      The 40 series cars are pleasant compact-sized hatchbacks, but on some surfaces the tires can be a bit noisy with the firm suspension in the 2021-23 models (I have a 2022). They redid the suspension and motors this year. No idea how they compare to an R1S, but I’d have thought it worth looking at the EX90 next year. It too has seating for 7, air suspension and a similar price point. Should be pretty quiet too as Volvo’s flagship vehicle.

    • @briandonadio4284
      @briandonadio4284 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Our R1S suspension compressor isn’t all that loud IMO. The rear motor “tocking” noise can be a little annoying for me. Hopefully that is something that isn’t present in the Dual Motor. Outside of that, I think the motor itself sounds nice.

  • @manitobasky
    @manitobasky Před 3 měsíci +1

    So when are we getting “Race to Vegas” all truck edition? Rivian, Cybertruck, Lightning?

  • @ronb4633
    @ronb4633 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle, great hearing of successful charging. Funny miss-speak at 21:25 seeing how much of an improvement Tesla made when you’re driving a Rivian. 😂

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci

      I had to check through the comments to make sure that I was not repeating it but yes, I noticed that too. I thought it was hilarious I was like what! One day when other vehicles have access to the Tesla network, I want either Rivian or a Ford lightning. But until then, it’s Tesla all the way. I’m one of those weird people who have yet to encounter a non-functional charger that was not listed in the app first. Anyway, love these road trip videos, but you can afford to be stuck at non functional chargers. most of us need to get to where we’re going and being at a charger and not being able to charge is panic inducing to the rest of us. As always love your videos.

  • @MisDirected2014
    @MisDirected2014 Před 6 měsíci

    What’s the phone holder setup? Attaches to the windshield but also sits on the dash. If you can send me some links to this setup I’d appreciate. Thank you. Drive safe.

  • @danieljones7560
    @danieljones7560 Před 6 měsíci

    When are NEVI funded chargers going to start showing up? I'm east of the sierras along 14/395 and we haven't seen a new charging station in years. In fact, the ones we have are breaking down. Where are all these new chargers??

  • @Lifeofpye314
    @Lifeofpye314 Před 6 měsíci

    Damn you were in my neck of the woods...... hooe to cross paths one of these days.

  • @leopard9
    @leopard9 Před 2 měsíci

    Here's a question I haven't seen answered... Does Rivian have the same option as Chevy that you can unlock drivers door only from outside & inside and all the other doors stay locked....like you are depositing money at the drive thru ATM all other doors stay locked.....I know of other companies that don't have that feature.

  • @mech-E
    @mech-E Před 6 měsíci +1

    I never bank on chargers at hotels being available. It’s only ever a bonus in my eyes.

  • @dutchypiang
    @dutchypiang Před 6 měsíci +4

    $0.50/kwh expensive 😂 come to the UK you’ll say $0.50 is cheap after that. Our cost for public charging is $0.87 on average at fast/hypers

    • @skorpion1298
      @skorpion1298 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Oi mate they pay 3,49$/gal.. Thats 80 cents / litre! Thats soo cheap over there! In Germany we pay around 2€/L on Diesel.

    • @dutchypiang
      @dutchypiang Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@skorpion1298 same here my man. Same here

  • @JTube571
    @JTube571 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Wonders why the efficiency is so bad and then lets slip he's cruising at 85. That'll do it. 😅

  • @user-in6uh7sq3e
    @user-in6uh7sq3e Před 5 měsíci

    Wow…for a newbie…my head is spinning trying to understand the charging complications…expecting my Rivian in Feb…need to feel more confident with charging challenges!

  • @terrymattingly6843
    @terrymattingly6843 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Better than Rolling the dice at EA. The story of the non Tesla EV slump.

  • @DblOSmith
    @DblOSmith Před 6 měsíci +13

    If it's okay for Teslas to use J's, then it's okay for J's to use Teslas.

    • @dowhill1956
      @dowhill1956 Před 6 měsíci

      Of course! Why wouldn’t it be? Thanks.

  • @1AdamDaily
    @1AdamDaily Před 6 měsíci +1

    What! Had no idea about Ride app. What is the password?

  • @SpottedSharks
    @SpottedSharks Před 3 měsíci +1

    Did Part 2 drop and I missed it?

  • @John-209
    @John-209 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle I’m a bit bummed you didn’t get to spend time with the Kandi. Roman sold it dirt cheap

  • @ericcindycrowder7482
    @ericcindycrowder7482 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Are you bringing your new Autel EV scanner with you

    • @kekdogg
      @kekdogg Před 6 měsíci

      This was live streamed 3 weeks ago

  • @scottbreseke716
    @scottbreseke716 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'd like to see Cybertruck wrapped so that it looks like a toaster.

  • @CoRektOh
    @CoRektOh Před 4 měsíci

    Always wanted to know, who takes care of the doggos when Kyle and Alyssa are on the road?

  • @ichigo19870
    @ichigo19870 Před 6 měsíci

    Rivian took a page of Bjorns Play Book. ABC. Always Blame Charger! :D

  • @drewski1775
    @drewski1775 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle share the love. What's the RIDE app 5 digit code?

  • @KushHeg
    @KushHeg Před 6 měsíci

    Will you do a meet and greet?? I work at BMW in Greer.

    • @kekdogg
      @kekdogg Před 6 měsíci +1

      This was live streamed 3 weeks ago

  • @dianewallace6064
    @dianewallace6064 Před 6 měsíci

    So I should put it in pet mode to warm the battery before I go on a road trip.

  • @James-cq9dp
    @James-cq9dp Před 6 měsíci

    why would someone use the chargepoint charger when there was the free tesla one right next to it?

  • @nathanwolf5547
    @nathanwolf5547 Před 6 měsíci

    50c per kWh? That is so darn cheap! In the UK the lowest I have payed recently is £0.69p. The fastest chargers are still charging between 89p and 99p per kWh

    • @austina4189
      @austina4189 Před 6 měsíci +2

      50c/kWh is extremely expensive in my area of the US. Usually mid 20's-high 30's at fast chargers

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci

      Just for the record is gas in comparison not way more expensive? I mean here in my state were paying $2.40 for regular. My local Tesla charger I think is at $.31 per kilowatt. it’s actually $.10 if you use it in off-peak hours. But almost a full British pound for a kilowatt of electricity is still very comparable to your fuel prices is it?

    • @tkmedia3866
      @tkmedia3866 Před 6 měsíci

      Many around me are at $0.69 so prices are rising quick.

    • @skorpion1298
      @skorpion1298 Před 6 měsíci

      Oi mate they pay 3,49$/gal.. Thats 80 cents / litre! Thats soo cheap over there! In Germany we pay around 2€/L on Diesel.

    • @COSolar6419
      @COSolar6419 Před 6 měsíci

      $0.40-0.50/kWh for DCFC is pretty typical in Colorado right now. Some locations are lower but some are much higher. Home charging is $0.11/kWh. Standard gas is around $3.50 in western Colorado.

  • @Borisanu
    @Borisanu Před 2 měsíci

    part 2 when?

  • @DrKellieOwczarczak
    @DrKellieOwczarczak Před 2 měsíci

    The more I see the Rivian, the more I like it, but it would just be a toy for me due to the super small bed, and I cannot afford that. 😔

  • @gregchristie2763
    @gregchristie2763 Před 6 měsíci

    Just Subscribed... But I can't deal with ads every 5 minutes.. shame because your videos look interesting..thx anyway.

  • @GregV8
    @GregV8 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What’s wrong with Wendys! Come on1

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger Před 6 měsíci

    Half the EA chargers broken is not acceptable,. Knowing how to avoid the broken ones doesn't count for most people.. Electric car adoption will not get too far past first adopters in CCS cars if the CCS charging infrastructure remains difficult.

  • @darrenorange2982
    @darrenorange2982 Před 6 měsíci

    I am now confused....

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat Před 6 měsíci

    Good God at that efficiency is the range atrocious. Not selling BEV trucks with this experience. Barely did enough miles to go through a single tank of gas in a standard stock 36g f150 which is a fraction of the Rivian's price. Why are normal people not buying a toy going to get the BEV?

    • @nightwheel
      @nightwheel Před 6 měsíci

      Didn't he say the off-road tires he was running hits his efficiency pretty hard on the R1T? I have to assume that and getting into headwinds didn't do him any favors on this leg.

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat Před 6 měsíci

      @@nightwheel Of course, he has "all-terrain" tires but trucks are supposed to run all-terrains😕, it's not like it's a big MT tire or something. I guess for fairness, you probably wouldn't be getting the 700 mile range in a gas truck at 85mph speeds with headwinds, gotta slow down to cut drag for efficiency no matter what the powertrain is.

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 Před 5 měsíci

      For daily driving, especially with a long-ish commute, in many places the difference in fuel cost is so great, you can pay for the truck with the savings on fuel, in about 5 or 6 years.
      Then, for the remainder of the truck's life, whatever your current (ICE truck) fuel bill is, you're saving nearly that much every month. This can be several thousand dollars per year.

  • @junehanzawa5165
    @junehanzawa5165 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I wish Kyle and other EV CZcamsrs would mention the time it takes to drive between charging stops rather than just mentioning the miles. Not mentioning the time makes it seem as though you're doing nothing but charging with EVs, and gives naysayers even more bulletpoints.
    The average driver is unfortunately fairly clueless when it comes to distances. I can hear them out there saying "250 miles? I do that in 2 1/2 hours. Sometimes in just 2." Not to mention the mathematically challenged newer generations. "It takes you than long? I usually do it in an hour and a half, -- easily."
    Unfortunatey, busy CZcamsrs rarely read the comments on their videos.

    • @dennislyon5412
      @dennislyon5412 Před 6 měsíci

      The driving part is the same time/miles as an ICE car, so why report it?

    • @junehanzawa5165
      @junehanzawa5165 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@dennislyon5412 Because the people I just said are clueless about time and distances are those that drive ICE cars.

    • @dennislyon5412
      @dennislyon5412 Před 6 měsíci

      @@junehanzawa5165 - and you wish to give them more stuff to debate? Kyle drives 80+ mph on his freeway stints. His logic is that his EV charges (adds miles) way faster than he can burn them up, so he’ll drive at what he considers a safe speed - perhaps faster than some of us. This paints his EV picture as being less efficient than it could be if he drove slower, hence, unreported time/distance.

    • @junehanzawa5165
      @junehanzawa5165 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dennislyon5412 I don't think any one of you have a clue on how clueless most drivers are on time and distance when driving. For example, if you ask most any driver that if you have an EV with 300 miles of range when full and you head south to Florida from NYC on the NJ Turnpike how far could it go before running out, many will say, "Oh, about half way through New Jersey, which is an hour and a half." While others will say, "Oh, all the way to the end of New Jersey, or about 2 to 2 and a half hours. if you stick to the speed limit." When in reality you can go from NYC all the way PAST Fredericksburg, Virginia if you stick to the speed limit, or about 5 hours.
      Now, I know Kyle drives at 80 miles per hour. So do most of us, myself included. And I've made it to Washington, DC doing mostly 80 on a Model 3 LR from NYC (over 4 hours none stop). While a friend made it to Fredericksburg, Virginia doing mostly 70 on his Rivian R1T with its 328 miles of range from NYC. And that's about 5 hours of none stop driving. When we tell others that, most are absolutely shocked, while other say it's not possible and that we're exagerating or outright fibbing. That's there's no way an EV can go 5 hours of driving on a single charge. That all they see on CZcams EV channels are them charging all the time on road trips.
      And it's the time spent driving without stopping to charge that shocks them the most. And that's because CZcamsrs rarely if ever mention the time spent driving to the next charger. The editing makes it seem to the average viewer as though they're charging every other hour. When in reality Kyle, even charging to about only 70% and going 80 on his Rivian, spends about 3 hours to get to his next charger, yet it seem as though he is stopping to charge every other hour. And that's on the CZcamsr for not mentioning the time spent to get there, not on the viewer with their lack of distance and time concept.
      In fact, I dare any of you to ask the same question to your friends and family based on the time and distances between your locales of where you're from based to the EV ranges mentioned above. For example, how many hours could you spend driving from LA to SF on a fully charged EV with 300 miles of range before needing to stop to charge? Or from Miami, FL to Jacksonville. Etc. You can ask both at 80mph or at 70. You'll be absolutely shocked at their answers.

    • @dennislyon5412
      @dennislyon5412 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@junehanzawa5165 - to non EV drivers, they might see the examples of charging your car up every night. That means you can’t possibly go more than 1-1 1/2 hours without stopping to charge, right? I don’t want any part of that! When in reality, many EVs can go 4 to 6 hours between a full battery and the need to stop and charge. Maybe that’s what needs to be conveyed in the videos (I drove 180 miles, which took me 2.5 hours to get to the next charger)?

  • @zachmank123
    @zachmank123 Před 6 měsíci

    I live less than a mile from the wichita EA station, I guess I have to follow your instagram to know when youre around!!

  • @Bob_Sacamano
    @Bob_Sacamano Před 6 měsíci

  • @roydelpozo4816
    @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci

    Sketchy chargers does not equal fun! Only for Kyle not the rest of us . Tow bills are brutal!

  • @roydelpozo4816
    @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci

    That first stop that Kyle made at 50 Cent a kilowatt… I hate to say it’s hard to justify going electric when it’s more than gas. If fill up consistently stay cheaper than gas than the delay can be justified. I really look forward to an F150 lightning but the reality is unless that charging curve gets way better. 100 kW is just too damn slow. Especially on the large battery. But it will make a great in town around town vehicle. I’ll be keeping my Tesla for road trips. By comparison, the second stop was really cheap.

    • @ab-tf5fl
      @ab-tf5fl Před 6 měsíci +1

      50 cents/kWh is too simplistic. You have to also consider that the first 200 miles was cheap home-charged electricity, plus 200 additional free miles from overnight charging at the hotel. Those two factors are huge, so even if 50 cents/kWh is a little bit more than gas, electricity likely still comes out ahead overall.
      In any case, the real savings from going electric happens not on road trips, but in all the daily driving you do around town when not going on a road trip, where all of the electricity comes from the home charger. Most people don't road trip all that often, so it's daily driving that dominates the cost to fuel the vehicle.
      Agree, 100 kWh is a bit slow for a vehicle the size of a Rivian truck. It's good enough for a sedan. This is why optimizing the charging sessions and not plugging in too long is important.

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ab-tf5fl I have had a tesla for 7 years now so i am no kind of anti electric guy. But there is reality involved. When your electric charging costs outrun gas and you have to wait for slow charging and maybe get to non working chargers. I have been blessed with my teslas * (3 now) that i have never been stranded and they have treated me well and the superchargers have worked like magic. I have only been able to really travel in the last 5 years as before that the supercharger network was not built out enough. So i am definitely an advocate but it has to make sense. In 2025 when all brands get to use a mature working charging network i will be super happy to get an f150 lighting. But going through the navigation not knowing if when i get there i will be able to charge is a big now. That said, my point on the first charge at 50 cents per KW and relatively slow at that was its hard to convince someone electric is the way to go if its slower and more expensive. The use case of a pickup truck actually doing work is a no go when you have to "waste" an hour plus on charging every few hundred miles. But for car or suv use in a few years i can recommend any brand but till then i always tell people telsa is the way to go. Great local car and great road trip car. On my 16 MS i stop for 25 min every 200 miles to go another 200 miles ( weather and wind might cut that down to 150 if its harsh or very cold). My 17 X is about 5% shorter on range but alot more room. My wifes 22 M3P needs 15 every 200 miles ( on 250 chargers) . just enough for a bathroom break and a coffee. Kyle did say on the beginning of his trip he was taking the worse EV for the trip . That will not be the case in 2 years when he can use dependable chargers. As for homecharging ( your main point i believe) its great if you can work in the range of the chargers. Thats some real cost savings there. Even if you cant home charge there are options. A friend of mine was spending 800 a month on fuel commuting back in forth 60 miles each way daily Dallas to ft worth. I got him an older model S with free charging and he charges 30 to 70 daily for 15 to 20 min and now has a 550 car payment driving a newer nicer car than his pickup. For Gas money ;) The math can be made to work. My original point is we are not all Kyle and its hard to chance being stuck on a road trip due to crappy non tesla chargers!

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@roydelpozo4816I do wonder what workers are these who spend their work days driving hundreds of miles, all over God's green earth?
      Most people I know who drive pickup trucks for work are working less than 20 miles from the shop.
      There are certainly exceptions to this rule. So let diesel trucks be the exception. In the vast majority of work truck scenarios, BEV saves both time and money.

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 5 měsíci

      @@davidmenasco5743 Saves money for sure! And again unless you haul hay or an rv or need some distance a BEV is the way to go. I bought my first tesla in 2016 ( hell of a sacrifice at the price at the time but still a quality product that works!) and i have zero regrets and tell everyone i meet or talk to about the electric benefits! As for the truck... i really want an f150 but i hate the super slow charging speed of 100kw. Id never be able to take it on a road trip like ever! My old ass 2016 tesla charges at peaks of 180kw when everything is perfect and holds over 100 KW to 75% its a free fall after that but enough to get me going to the next SC. You are very correct that most people who buy a truck should be able to function with the stock range. Personally i would not as my closest city is 100 miles away and if i travel there at the speed limit i wont have enough to get back with the small battery f150. The big one will but now if i tow my RV to the lake im out of juice in an insane short time. So for me it wont work. But for contractors it should work awesome! They just need to be educated on the why.

  • @BullishOnEVs
    @BullishOnEVs Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why do you make these PAINFULLY LONG Videos? 10-20 minutes MAX!!!