Surprisingly Good - Shimanto Japanese Light Cruiser Grind

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Komentáře • 68

  • @secutor7142
    @secutor7142 Před rokem +94

    I quite like these ships because they're fun to shoot at.

    • @firepos3851
      @firepos3851 Před rokem

      Yes especially in Montana or Kremlin

    • @stephenwilson0386
      @stephenwilson0386 Před rokem +2

      @@firepos3851 First time I saw a Yodo in my Montana, I devstruck him from 100% hp at like 20km. My jaw hit the floor, but felt great on my side

  • @ShaperOfThings
    @ShaperOfThings Před rokem +10

    I absolutely love Yodo. You touch on a very important part of the play style: Fire, maneuver, & take the reload time to make people miss. It's not uncommon to have five ships targeting Yodo after the opening salvo & being prepared to change speed and direction immediately after firing is paramount. This can be an advantage!!! Five ships firing at Yodo who's prepared an evasive maneuver & miss are five ships not targeting your team mates. Then, go dark, watch their turrets to shift to another target, then fire again. They'll keep turning back & forth, not getting effective damage and also exposing themselves to your pals. It's a tricky line to walk but once you get it down, it's a great time.

    • @kingsmen9243
      @kingsmen9243 Před 4 měsíci

      That is exactly how I envisioned the gameplay of Japanese lightcruisers. Its a major support ship to distract the enemy especially when it performs better when running away. Diverting the attention of enemy onto you rather than your team results in winning the war despite losing the battle when you die. The only downside is that you need someone to spot for you at the start so that you know who is on yourside when in battle. It really is the ship line to test your skills as a cruiser. That is just my opinion so feel free to tell me othewise.
      (I've been rocking the gokase in tier 8 matches recently)

  • @dlegofan
    @dlegofan Před rokem +9

    Competent CCs back in 2018:
    "Boise can deal some good damage per salvo, but at the end of the day, nothing you do with her guns is something you wouldn't also do with Helena, and better since Helena has higher DPM."
    Modern CCs in 2023:
    "Look at the damage. No! Don't look at the *actual* DPM! Just look at the *BEEEG* numbers when the shells hit!"

    • @yashma4187
      @yashma4187 Před rokem +11

      Mogami has higher alpha, better shell velocity, *AND* a 5 second quicker reload.

  • @paulgebhart1413
    @paulgebhart1413 Před rokem +4

    I was really surprised by how fast the turrets rotate and the back turrets can rotate thru the hull like the British DDs. Nice feature.

    • @anidiot2818
      @anidiot2818 Před rokem

      Another nice feature of these fast turning turrets with no armor is that even DDs can break them with HE.
      Seriously though, i loose them all the time.

  • @_koji
    @_koji Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the review!

  • @hughejass9461
    @hughejass9461 Před rokem +8

    The T5, 6 and 7 were atrocious grinds and I stopped there. I sort of liked the ships but the lack of heal and the slower reload was a big issue for me when I stopped. Good video and perhaps I'll try again in the future.

  • @atpyro7920
    @atpyro7920 Před rokem +1

    I kind of skipped the lower tiers of the line, but I found the Tier 9 (Takahasi) to be really fun. 360 turrets are always spicy and the torp angles let you get away with rushes you probably shouldn't. Properly built it also gets near-Atago level maneuverability, and you don't even really need concealment mod because just CE puts your conceal at 11.6, so i take rudder mod for that wiggly action. I actually used Taka to hold a flank off pretty much by myself once and it was wild.

  • @paullagarde7388
    @paullagarde7388 Před rokem +1

    great video as always PQ!

    • @davidzimmermann6362
      @davidzimmermann6362 Před rokem +2

      How can you even know that when the video was out 1 min before you commented...

    • @wotartyiscncer6875
      @wotartyiscncer6875 Před rokem

      @@davidzimmermann6362 flexing to be the first ^^

    • @paullagarde7388
      @paullagarde7388 Před rokem

      @@davidzimmermann6362 Because I have faith in my homie you recalcitrant hooligan.

  • @matstick199
    @matstick199 Před rokem +1

    Cant wait for your video on the T9 with less DPM than a german T6 cruiser

  • @Klongree83
    @Klongree83 Před rokem

    I seem to do really well in the T8 and I can’t figure out why haha. I find I can catch folks with pre dropped torps on a objective. I went reload in the T9. Landing shots with at extended range can be difficult. Those turrets tho… great for catching a DD that suddenly pops up, turn fast enough to catch and punish them.

  • @demian7567
    @demian7567 Před rokem +2

    Mogami is my favorite cruiser from the classic line, and the shimanto is just a better Mogami. Better turret traverse, better torp angles, better torp range...

  • @TomMJH
    @TomMJH Před 10 měsíci

    good review

  • @flfar3445
    @flfar3445 Před rokem

    I like the true 9 because of the heal, and sometimes I put ifhe on it idk 🤷‍♀️ but I’ve been playing a lot of schroder a lot , hunting dds.

  • @omarnuneznavy
    @omarnuneznavy Před rokem

    I enjoy the grind and the yodo is a solid B tier cruisers. The rudder shift needs improvement but overall it's a good line.

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Před rokem +2

    Comparison with Mogami Lite might be interesting.

  • @toddleavitt3366
    @toddleavitt3366 Před rokem

    I unlocked the camo and eco boost for the tier 8 but haven’t unlocked the actual ship yet

  • @rccola5167
    @rccola5167 Před rokem

    I was pleasantly surprised with the 8 and 9. You know what's really fun? Schroder

  • @dany1441
    @dany1441 Před rokem +3

    What does this ship offer over 155mm Mogami? Other than turret traverse?

    • @Ph3NiX80
      @Ph3NiX80 Před rokem

      Mogami is better

    • @dany1441
      @dany1441 Před rokem

      @@Ph3NiX80 It certainly looks like it is.

    • @yashma4187
      @yashma4187 Před rokem +1

      The Shimanto has a better looking perma camo (but only if you got the early access camo), otherwise even the new line's default perma camos are quite bleh.

  • @fultz64
    @fultz64 Před 3 měsíci

    I love my Shimanto

  • @risingsun9595
    @risingsun9595 Před rokem +1

    "She-mon-toe"

  • @CH3TN1K313
    @CH3TN1K313 Před rokem +1

    I always loved these ships since they were released. I saw them and still see them as analogous of the Italian heavy cruisers, especially if you're going to run IFHE. They get a heal starting at Tier IX, they have long reloads but do tremendous amounts of damage when hitting most of your salvo, they're accurate, maneuverable, have a smoke to disengage or just harass enemies while hiding in open water, and have torps for battleship and cruisers who want to rush you, all traits that are found on Italian heavy cruisers. Most people saw the long reloads and small caliber guns, and just dismissed the line without giving it a thought. The up to Tier IX, admittedly the line is tough without the sustain that comes with a heal, but at Tier IX and X you can take risks that would send you back to port in the earlier tiers. If you loved the Italians, play these ships.

  • @capthappy8884
    @capthappy8884 Před rokem

    Yup, only to the 9 so far, but I'm enjoying them. Thankfully I am bc I have a personal policy of owning every 15+ gun ship in game. o7

  • @Ph3NiX80
    @Ph3NiX80 Před rokem

    The problem is you can’t use IFHE because of 150 guns pen up to 37 mm (while Mogami’s 155 can go up to 38 mm)

  • @stevetownsend2593
    @stevetownsend2593 Před rokem

    awesome ship, quick turrets, awesome AA, great manoeuvrability and a good fire starter

  • @joshtheking1772
    @joshtheking1772 Před rokem

    I ran out of patience leveling the IJN Cruisers. It doesn't matter what build you use really, you just get spotted and nuked with impunity in today's meta in these cruisers. If you go into knowing you're gonna get smashed, then game on right?

  • @baldap500
    @baldap500 Před rokem

    Why did you make a request video on a ship that wasn't requested the most?

  • @yanniskouretas8688
    @yanniskouretas8688 Před rokem

    Not bad - not terrible for me so far . Glass jaw , fast turning guns , ok(ish) HP but reload leaves a lot to be desired (a slight reload buff would not be so bad).

  • @dzy061
    @dzy061 Před rokem +2

    I really like these cruisers, basically free damage for my Thunderer.

  • @webguardweb8177
    @webguardweb8177 Před rokem

    Wait until you get at T10, pain is the name of the game. The battle impact its almost zero, as soon as you get spotted and there is no cover to hide you will get blown out of the water.

  • @demosearies7591
    @demosearies7591 Před rokem

    They may not be the best in most standard battles, but maps with lots of islands, they are top dogs at defencive play.. and wow, in zeppelin escort, a decent player can just destroy. In the end, they are very situational, so you will find them lacking if the right situation dosnt crop up.

  • @kr4ftt
    @kr4ftt Před rokem

    PQ Come on Giuseppe Verdi on Airship! LESGOOOO make it work! make it work!

  • @mikestion4629
    @mikestion4629 Před rokem

    good ol' inertia fuse heavy explosive. burn the world and boil the oceans!

  • @klmnts
    @klmnts Před rokem

    T5 and T6 killed me. Having to lose a fight against a Lo Yang in a Gokase felt terrible. Super slow turning turrets with no pen and no damage, slow shells, no range and slow reload was just atrocious. Good to see higher tiers are better.

  • @saltefan5925
    @saltefan5925 Před rokem +1

    I just can't deal with the fact that the T8 and T9 have worse DPM than Shimakaze, and that their ballistics make shooting at anything above 15km a challenge at best. I would still play the Mogami in a T10 game than I would the T9 in a T9 game. Mogami in particular hits 38mm pen with IFHE which notably punches out USBB decks
    Not having light cruiser utility, light cruiser DPM, or light cruiser agility with only 15km unreliable IJN torps to compensate is painful.

  • @BobWeave
    @BobWeave Před rokem

    The japan light cruisers are DD destroyers

  • @anthrax2413
    @anthrax2413 Před rokem

    The base DPM of this entire line is lower than the Mogami. Plus, the shell velocity, penetration, alpha, armor, speed, turning circle, rudder shift time and so on. Everything is worse.

  • @dawsongrell6310
    @dawsongrell6310 Před rokem

    I feel like WG doesn’t know what a light cruiser is. Massive HP pool + light cruiser just seems contradictory imo

  • @windfire5380
    @windfire5380 Před rokem +1

    This video was yet another good example that the player base is pretty poor at this game. :)

  • @anubhavdassarma7230
    @anubhavdassarma7230 Před rokem

    I wonder why everyone calls them the worst cruiser line in the game??

  • @ronchabale
    @ronchabale Před rokem

    Absurd how a tier 8 light cruiser gets 400hp less than the tier 10 Zaõ

  • @yashma4187
    @yashma4187 Před rokem

    For me any semblance of the notion that this line is good goes out the window the moment you compare them to the Mogami. Compared to the Shimanto and Takahashi, the Mogami has higher alpha, better shell arcs and drastically better DPM. The Mogami even has better base DPM than the Yodo.
    Sure the Mogami loses out on the rapid traversing 360 turrets (which are really nice), but 60% higher DPM more than makes up for it.

  • @123ikubuf
    @123ikubuf Před rokem

    I thought everyone will call it shitmanto because of the expectations. XD

  • @tahiribnmohammad5410
    @tahiribnmohammad5410 Před rokem

    I broke the Shimanto WR by getting 3368 bse xp, by far the highest, although it wont get registered because ive only had 7 and you need 40 to get on the leaderboard

  • @Beep2bleep
    @Beep2bleep Před rokem

    Not to be a downer but have you considered the fact that you're comparing playing without your lockon fix vs playing with your lockon fix? You're doing well but that might be the lockon fix making a weak ship act better and you should really compare your Atago while using the lockon fix not your historical records.

  • @wackadakka3134
    @wackadakka3134 Před rokem

    whats the point of a fast turret travers if the reload is 15 seconds , Mogami is a better ship in all respects 120k per game EASILY , the shells are bigger and actually do something

  • @royv9019
    @royv9019 Před rokem

    VII is horendous

  • @jaywerner8415
    @jaywerner8415 Před rokem

    The real kicker is that Japanese 100mm guns have more HE pen then these 155mm guns. WARGAMING LOGIC! Speaking from the tier 5 experience, these things are "Destroyers" in cruiser form. Longer torp range then their Detection range, Decent Guns, Turning torps for WIDE torp firing angles.

  • @ahnuldschwarzenegger1
    @ahnuldschwarzenegger1 Před rokem +12

    Submarines suck.

    • @RoderickVoordouw
      @RoderickVoordouw Před rokem +8

      They sure do. Imagine the fun we could have if they weren't there anymore

    • @ahnuldschwarzenegger1
      @ahnuldschwarzenegger1 Před rokem +2

      @@RoderickVoordouw We can only hope.

    • @ReDiR20
      @ReDiR20 Před rokem

      They are ok

    • @siriusczech
      @siriusczech Před rokem +4

      @@ReDiR20 Ok, tell me then what was PQs counterplay to that submarine.

    • @forge16hanadamaintenancedr43
      @forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Před rokem +1

      @@siriusczechOpinion: ship based ASW is even worse than submarines themselves and should only be an addition to plane ASW instead of replacement.

  • @emir7135
    @emir7135 Před rokem

    guys we are loosing potato quality

  • @davidlawand2805
    @davidlawand2805 Před 7 měsíci

    why cant WeeGee actually give us IJN ships
    i literally got outgunned by a destroyer, he broke all my guns and i couldnt even set fire to him.. and one time my shell shattered.. like bruh
    ijn ships literally lack any good features
    it renders them absolutely useless with all these new and extreemly powerful ships that are joining the game

  • @taterkaze9428
    @taterkaze9428 Před rokem

    This line is a non-starter. Not worth anyone's time. I'd rather do TT resets for research points than play new but terrible ships. What's the prize here? Yodo? GTFOH.

  • @ruslantyshtykbayev9719

    Pls reply in ur twitch server, in suggestions thread, pour ur wisdom onto me, oh guru @PotatoQuality