Bret Hart SHOOTS ON Ranking WWE Talent Out Of 10!
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Are Bret Hart's Ratings fair? Let us know in the comments below!
Yup, a little low on himself, but he knows the business.
I wanna know how he rates the Great El Dandy 😂
@@danomite22 not really. He wasn't a good talker and he was too small. I get it, you're a cheerleader so of course you'd think everything should be a 10/10 with Bret.
Perfect 10s...Angle, Triple H, Scott Hall, Taker, Booker T
His promos were a little higher he is close to an 8. Same with his look he looked cool back in the day with the pink and black and sunglasses maybe 9 out of 10
Bret's deadpan delivery when burying certain guys never gets old and will never not be funny
I do wish he wasn't so bitter though. He has several reasons to but it can't be good for ones mental health.
Haha!
@@FilmThePoliceFTPon the contrary, its far better to let out your feelings. How is holding in your emotions doing for your mental health?
It's just so random
@@kevvy_byeah but he's spent the last 25 years doing it. It's pathetic and exhausting
Bret is underestimating himself, and overestimating some other people. And admitting a guy you had serious beef with (Shawn ) is a 10/10 takes a big man. Bret is a class act.
Anyone who give Shawn less than 9 have zero knowledge of wrestling
@@clarkkent983 The one reason I could see people giving him less than 10/10 for work was the tendency to oversell in a goofy outrageous manner.
@@robertheadley3483 He oversell a few and far between, Hennig oversell literally in every match, no one seems to b*tch about Hennig though
You can't deny a fact.
Exactly
I gotta be honest, I’d give bret hart a 9/10 on look. He might not be the most intimidating or biggest guy, but he was the most coolest looking one. 10/10 on wrestling, and 6-7/10 on promo.
Spot on
He literally made pink work
I agree, one of the reasons why Bret is popular during the day is because of his looks. He appealed to the kids.
8 on look, not biggest but big and good proportions for being “the” guy
10 on workrate
6 on promos at best
facts the look is standout and badass
I think ring attire is part of 'look'. Bret absolutely nailed it with the pink and black. Could be the coolest looking gear in my lifetime of watching wrasslin; 40 years or so.
Especially when he walked in with those shades and the jacket. Dude looked like a total star
@@jay_1212 Fuck yes, the Sgt pepper jacket.
Bret had phenomenal attire. My personal favorite was Macho Man's attire.
You could say the entrance as a whole and how well the entrance suited that particular character. Granted some of that isn't down the wrestler themselves although they probably have some say on it. When you hear the beginning music of an icon entrance whether it be Bret's guitar, Undertaker's gong, Stone Cold's glass break or The Rock's if you smell (Do you smell it you prefer that one), it is all part of the overall character package from the moment the music hits and they walk out to when they finish the match, all of it's important.
I think he undersold the look but oversold his promo ability (at least in his prime, once he started turning heel in late 96 early 97 his promo skills got a lot better)
Bret Hart's Score:
Look: 8/10 (cool factor)
Promo: 6/10 (sounds fair)
Wrestling: 10/10 (cannot be argued for less)
💯
You got that spot on
he had the drip
I would switch promo and look. Brett heel promos in 1997 were incredible. He was great on the mic most of his career but towards the end he really figured it out
Heel Brett had 10/10 promos
Love him or hate him, Bret Hart never holds back when it comes to speaking his mind. One of the most honest and outspoken guys in wrestling
Learn the definition of honest... Because he's far from that.
Bret fans and their strange bias.
Racist old grandpas who were alive during WW2 also speak their minds. It's not always something to be celebrated. Keep that in mind.
@@davekemp1808lol damn. Well said!
thing I like about Bret is despite all his historical feuds with Michaels he always points out how great a wrestler he is.
However you might feel about the person, you can't deny the ability when they're that good. It would be like seeing Hendrix and Clapton on stage and saying "Those dudes suck,"
He's said absurd things like that, denying abilities, plenty. He said Hunter never had a great match, which is silly and just comes from bitterness@@bipolarminddroppings
@@JoshLavian I agree that he's wrong about HHH, but I don't think it comes from bitterness. I think Bret still sees him as Shawn Michaels' sidekick from the mid 90s. The truth is, HHH wasn't that good when Bret was still with the company. He was just okay. He got much, much better from 1999 and on.
Ironically, HHH seemed to be taking pages out of the Bret Hart playbook when he started to improve. Cerebral Assassin = Hitman. Aiming for certain body parts and focusing on them throughout the match. I even think he might have been watching heel Bret in WCW, because injuring guys after matches was Bret's thing in 1998, and HHH started going for something similar from 1999 and on.
@@Cableguy15 I can kind of see that. Yeah you are right. He sort of grew while Hart was away. So tight might be why Hart holds Jim in low regard. He never personally witnessed HHHs prime years that much.
@@Cableguy15 Yeah I wouldn't agree with Bret about HHH. He has more creative control now than when he did under Vince, and the product has shown improvement. Vince was amazing for so many decades, but he wasn't at the top of his game when he left. And it's not a knock, no wrestling company could come close to Vince even when he wasn't. If he truly was as bad as the IWC made him out to be, ROH, NJPW or someone else would have surpassed WWE a decade ago.
Overall though, I think WWE will continue to benefit with Triple H in charge of creative. The only thing that could hurt him is getting dead-set in his ways, and refusing to change things. But overall, WWE has smart people, and an amazing Business Intelligence team that really knows how to leverage data. Not to mention, the way they handled the presser with Cody, and the Bloodline angle in general has been really well done.
I have to disagree with Bret on HHH....sort of. I don't think HHH is too creative in his wrestling, but I think he has a real good head for promos and storytelling. HHH was brilliant at selling and working heat in promos.
Right, he specifically said he didn't think HHH put forth any ideas for a match. He did not say anything about his coming up with storylines and such which I think is where HHH is pretty good but I have to admit I'm bored of the WWE of today. Mostly I think it's because I remember the Attitude era where you never knew what was going to happen and it was absolutely crazy some of the things they came up with. It was entertaining. The production is much more PG and a bit more polished and I think I like the unpredictability and grittiness of how things were before. Nothing about the guys working because some of them are really good. The production just isn't to my taste and that's ok, someone out there is enjoying it.
Plus, Triple H was not yet a veteran when Bret Hart was in the WWF.
@@cmdrdredd I actually think Hunter is good for all of that. He is head of creative on the main roster and before that he was in charge of developmental. You look at the best times of developmental, and it was him that was not doing the stories, but in charge of shaping the matches. this was the time when developmental shows were better than the main roster shows. As far as things being unpredictable, I think Hunter has also proven that he can make things unpredictable. What happened at Survivor series would be one example, and again I point you back to when he was in charge of developmental, and so many unpredictable moments there. WWE is far from perfect but no company is perfect. It is definitely been much better than it used to be because of him.
@@WarriorPride65 I agree with you. Brett left WWE in late 97. At that point Hunter was only in the company for a couple years and he was only a pro wrestler from maybe five years at that point. He never really started inserting ideas and coming up with things, and, trying to get more of a handle for the business and the creative until a couple years later. So even though Brett is probably right about how Hunter was when he was there it’s still not fair assessment, because when Brett was there, Hunter was still a relative rookie in the business.
Hell no... he never had... all his work is generic as hell. He never fit to the level of the big guy when he was there. He was no Stone Cold, No Rock, No Taker, No Kane, No Benoit, No Guerrero, No Y2J, No Booker T, No Sting, No Goldberg, No Lesnar... he was the guy who was nobody.
He’s a 12/10 on his work
I agree
Fact
Brets rating as a wrestler made his look even better. The pink and black attire with the white and black shoes went well with his style. Hell even his entrance attire was super cool.
Also consider how Bret could play either heel or babyface effortlessly. His knowledge of ring & promo psychology was staggering. He was never terribly eloquent, but he understood how to work the audience so extremely well. And his heel & babyface personas were not terribly different. There was pretty much an identical attitude & tone for both, he would just adjust the talking points slightly. This made him so much more believable. His greatest gift was giving pro wrestling legitimacy when so few performers in his era -- particularly in gimmick-heavy WWF -- could do that.
Up until his final Heel run in WWF, Hart couldn't cut a decent promo. He lacked a certain confidence in what he was saying, just almost blindly looking into the camera & going through the motions, knowing what he had to say but put nothing personal behind his words.
Say what you want about him & the business but a top guy, especially back then, needed to be able to cut a great promo, or at least have a mouth piece to do it for them. And Bret's mic skills just weren't there.
@@davekemp1808 He wasn't the greatest on the mic, but he had this cool persona that a lot of people loved. I remember as a kid a bunch of us always repeating Bret's best there is, best there was... thing. He was never at the level of a lot of the guys during the Attitude era, but he was still pretty good.
Bret was definitly one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. He had many many fans here in Germany and he was my favourite Wrestler too.
Bret had a great look. 8/10. His promos with HBK and America sucks were easily 7/10. He improved immensely throughout his career.
I'd say Look was 8/10, his promos were 7/10, and his in ring wrestling was 10/10. People can argue what the best match ever is, until we're all on AARP, but one of the few names that's in every debate for best match ever is Bret Hart. He's delivered such a consistently high number of "best ever" matches that it really is hard to pick just one. For me personally it's Wrestlemania 12. I do not see how you top Wrestlemania 12.
Hogan's wrestling ability is higher than a 3/10.
@@wizzerwiser2056 no its not. Come on. A big boot and a leg drop.
His promo is definitely not a 7/10. You don't understand how ratings scale works
@@danomite22 And what was HBK a flip up and a super kick. What was Bret an elbow off the second rope and a Boston crab. What was Taker a big boot then a reverse pile driver. Look at everything they did before their finisher.
Brets promos as a anti american heel were some of his best promos ever...I would rank him higher then a 6 with promos
I agree. Whether it's a promo or just an honest interview like this, Bret come across as very convincing. And I totally agree with him about HHH. I never though Hunter was anything special. His friendship with Shawn is what put him on the map and his marriage to Stephanie is why he's in the position he's in today. Clasic case of it's not what you know, it's who you know.
HHH is one of the best heels ever, and a guy who always delivered, and was dedicated, he teared the quads, yet kept in the match, got burned in the chest during an entrance, yet he did the match and none even noticed, he may had more chances for marriage with steph but also he is one of the greats
@@alarydavidninif you like boring plodding matches
@@alarydavidnin I used to change the channel when Raw started with a HHH promo. He kinda drones on and is boring.
"Who are you to doubt El Dandy" is one of the greatest promos of all time imo
My respect for Brets career grows each yr. What a legend 🙏
Hahaha
I go back to youtube where you can watch mat classics from stampede wrestling from the late 70's to about 84 and see how fast BH developed his talents in a very short period of time. Bret Hart vs Dynamite Kid when they're both really young and uber talented are hard hitting, quasi shoot matches that still blow my mind. He took that talent and adjusted it to suit the WWF at thetime and was one of the main reasons I was such a dedicted fan. he made you believe.
At least we can say Bret doesn't play the game... he's always been himself and never switched up nor let the fans sway how he really feels ably a wrestler.
well the knock on him was that he took himself too seriously as if he was actually beating people IRL lol...kind of a dork.
I love how bret gave 3 examples of top guys all with different body types. Who were big around the same time To further elaborate on the look u need for pro wrestling
Those were all brutally honest and absolutely accurate scores. Brett and Shawn delivered some of the most intense and realistic LOOKING matches in the history of the sport, they are absolutely 10/10 in the ring. They sold every single jab, chop, and stomp that today's wrestlers simply can't.
I think his statements about the look is absolutely spot on. If you think about some of the greatest talents in wrestling over the years, they developed a character that was larger than life and could easily have been a comic book character - The Undertaker, Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Goldberg. They had an immediate presence and signature style. That look is probably a one in a million type of talent.
If you’re putting together a HOF or a ‘Mount Rushmore’ I think you need a fourth category which would be Legacy - what was the wrestler’s lasting impression on the wrestling business?
Good thought and great answer
Bret is my favorite wrestler of all time the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be! In my estimation is 10 6 10 26 out of his own 30 but the from all the other wrestlers who ever wrestled him said the fact no one ever got hurt in all his years and matches he was in until he retired no one else fake or not can say that.
One of the coolest guys I can know from my early CZcams days and memories.
The look rating doesn't mean biggest, baddest. There has to be an "X" factor. Something you can't put your finger on. People like Bret, Edge, Orton, Angle. The belt always felt at home on those guys
According to this scale, Macho Man is 10/10, 10/10, 10/10 - 30/30 = the perfect wrestler - exactly the way it should be - clearly the cream of the crop
I love machoman but that rating system is flawed! You should compare them to other wrestlers of their time and in looks hogan is a clear 1 with machoman 2nd.
No he wasnt. He was uglyish facialy and old looking for his age and was like 185 without roids
Too many fantastic talents have said that MM needed to go over over every aspect of the match ad - nauseum beforehand and had a real problem calling spots in the ring. I still loved they guy and his insane promo's with the late great Gene Okerland, but my ranking is as follows ..........
look - 8/10
promo - 10/10
skill level - 7/10
@@user-gc1wj8tt2pOmg i just realized machoman is an anagram for macmahon. Not sure what to do with that information
nah, MachoMan's promos were like 4/10
I both understand and hate Bret’s thoughts on Triple H. I get why he dislikes Hunter so much. Despite him being far better and respected as a person now, he was absolutely a garbage person back in the day. And he was one of the biggest masterminds in the screwjob, to the point that he literally was the one to say they should “Do business for him” BUT Trips is a WAY better person now and has owned up to his past. He’s made it clear he doesn’t necessarily regret it all. But he’s owned up to it and admitted he was wrong! And by all accounts today he’s a phenomenal and caring boss! Hell, look at this week. He made sure to pretape smackdown and made sure there were no events at all so wrestlers could get a break and enjoy the holidays for once! He’s also pushing the people who deserve it and have worked for it!! I’d say as far as look: EASILY a 10/10 (just look at the dude!! He screams pro wrestler!!), Promo: Probably 6 or 7/10 (he’s good on the mic and at times one of the best, but a lot of times he seemed to copy and paste on parts. Plus The Rock said it best when he used to make fun of his generic promo voice back in the day! 😂), as skill I’ve always hated Bret’s assumption that he’s a 3/10. Skill: He’s DEFINITELY a solid 8 at the least! Yeah he’s fairly predictable in a lot of matches. But Triple H’s predictable is still damn good!! And he’s shown he can pull out a damn clinic whenever he wants to with zero effort! Look at his matches with Daniel Bryan at Mania, Ambrose at Roadblock, his Matches with Taker. He’s so damn good! Yeah he’s a little self indulgent when it comes to match lengths, but oh well. 🤷♂️ Triple H is also (despite Bret’s opinion) a creative genius both in and out of the ring! His ring psychology is top notch. And he’s shown that he has a keen eye for storytelling, especially when it doesn’t pertain to him (weirdly!). Sure he used to be full of ego and made nonsensical decisions to help himself. But he’s shown both later in his own career and especially now that he has a great mind for the business! The product has been great with him at the helm! The guy deserves his hate for how he was from the 90s to 2000s. But from late 2000s to now he’s shown how good he is!
I agree. HHH was my favorite wrestler as a kid. I was always drawn to the heels, I still am all these years later! I got into fitness as a kid because of HHH. I think Bret's view on HHH is completely ignorant and shows that the Hitman has a bit of a childlike mind when it comes to people he didn't like back in the 90s. He can't move on and grow up.
Why was it wrong though
hhh was essentially the real mastermind behind the Montreal screwjob
brett knows that
I agree all u said but I'd go to a 9 on the mic. That dude got a whole bunch of charisma and wit.
HHH had a 10/10 look, his promos sucked and his in ring ability was decent. He was never the top guy aside from maybe 02 or whenever it was when he came back to a massive pop even though he left as a heel
I think a lot of Bret's awesome nuance was lost on me as a kid watching. If I rewatch classic matches I'm sure will marvel at his world class skill and finesse. Ultimate Warrior made the biggest impression on me, it sucks hearing he was difficult to work with and he didn't take care of his fellow wrestlers. That being said, I'm still a Warrior fan for life. His passion and all-out/all-in nature resonates with me to this day. R.I.P.
"I am the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be" - Bret Hart
But I rank 23 out of 30 when we add up my look, promo and skill.
I think Bret rated himself a bit too low. He had a great lok and his anti American promos were gold.
@D00MTR33 he's a politician, he knows he can't oversell himself. He needs people to feel sorry for him, that's his image
Arrogant little midcarder isn't he?
I've always divided it between WRESTLERS and ENTERTAINERS. Kurt Angle vs Hulk Hogan so to speak.
But Bret has an interesting take.
Bret was 10/10 in looks, 7/10 in promo, 10/10 in ring. GOAT.
I personally fuk wit the biker jacket wit those cool shades.
Arguably the highest rating in these categories combined I'll give to Undertaker. Looks, Promos and Wrestling! He's wildly popular here in South Asia
Taker is the best overall wrestler. He really put in the work.
Undertaker
Look - 10
Mic Skills- 7
Wrestling Skills- 10
Look: 10
Promo: 8
Work: 9
Macho Man would be a 10 on all
4:02 "He only knows how to connive." 😂
Brett has a lot of bitterness he hangs on to. If Shawn had never apologized, Brett would still be bitter. I get that some of his gripes are legit...but you have to let that shit go. He seems intent on holding on to that as much as possible.
@@Bigbudd0045 Hard to let go when you love something so bad my g but I get your point.
lol I just left the exact same comment before seeing yours.
its a reach but it might be related to his concussions kinda like it was so bad that today he has a hard time leting go because that part of the brain was the one that got damaged or something
I agree with everything Brett said until the last bit about HHH. Not sure I've ever heard Brett sound more ignorant than that considering just how well WWE is doing under HHH as creative lead. All these wrestlers talking about how HHH has helped them, same with HBK. Dude is still living in the past.
HHH is doing good but it’s still not perfect by any means..Drew is bouta lose again to Seth, they are doing nothing with Nakamura, NXT has took a step back and WWE is still struggling with the women’s tag division..Only thing that’s really gotten better since HHH took over is promos..I still find myself skipping thru most of Raw and SD every week
@@shinsukecorbin425 Expecting perfection of anyone is a ridiculous stance to take. The point is, HHH has made WWE much more enjoyable than when Vince was in control of creative. I don't think anyone would dispute that. Storylines are more cohesive and are not dropped at a whim. As you said promos are better. It's just a much better product. Enough said to be honest.
And I don't agree with you on basically everything you said as your examples, minus the women's tag division. Nakamura is getting a ton of spot light with top guys. I do hope Drew wins, but if not, then that's ok because I don't believe he has to for his story to continue to develop. The women's tag division, sure, but they are getting some good TV time, and that's more than you can say for other wrestling shows. I feel like you're just nitpicking to nitpick :P But it's ok if it's not your style or whatever, that's fine. That's why there are other shows.
@@shinsukecorbin425 this is why sometimes you gotta step out of the hardcore bubble sometimes.
Drew and Nakamura are still over as hell despite not beating Seth
Nakamura going after Cody is getting big crowd reactions.
Agree the women's tag division needs fixing
@@popetaytvright? Nakamura has been the chewed gum on the bottom of someone's shoe most of the time he's been on the main roster. The last few months he's main eventing pay per views. Huge difference since HHH took completely over. Same for Drew, Seth, LA Knight, etc. Vince had 2 or 3 guys,mostly part timers he sold & everyone else was just mostly lost in the shuffle
@@jasoninflagstaff yeah like Nakamura even though Heel Nakamura under Vince and HHH has done very little winning in big feuds. This version of heel Nakamura is more interesting than ball kicker Nak and the Nak that teamed with Sami and Cesaro.
The thing about Bret's ranking is not all stuff is weighted the same. Promo and looks mean far more than wrestling, and selling means more than how impressive you are technically. It also matters who's your audience. I hated Hogan as a wrestler, but lots of fans loved him. Bret was a good mix but he was never a guy to sell out the arenas or take wrestling to the heights Hogan did.
Dude Brett literally says they're not weighted the same and lists them in terms of weight
@@indyshome I think Bret overestimates just little the wrestling matters vs how much the star power, charisma matters. He's more well rounded than Hogan, but Hogan's star power in the 80s was insane.
@@geneanthony3421 You are most definitely right about that, but I guess I thought that is why he started with the Hogan example, saying the look and promo are so important that you could have a 3 out of 10 wrestling skill and still be one of the most powerful characters in the history of the industry.
Sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger as a actor. Sure he was not that skilled at acting but.... he was the action superstar of his time. Next to another guy Sylvester Stallone. Who himself was only a marginally better actor.
Its funny because HBK has a higher overall ranking due to promo skills, but he and Bret have always seemed equals, the perfect match!
Bret made it so easy to see through the extremely busy world of wrestling and actually make more sense of it, so convenient
On this one, I have to disagree with Bret. HHH drew with Austin, Taker, Rock, Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels, Batista, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar…etc. Although people can make the argument that it was HHH opponents who really drew, those guys needed a great heel to work with and HHH is one of the greatest heels of all time. He also has built up NXT and made other stars, so I can think Bret should give credit where credit is due.
I agree, Bret is a legend for sure, but he wasn’t really around when HHH was getting big, he left for WCW when DX was Shawn Michaels HHH and Chyna, so he wasn’t really around when HHH broke out on his own
No one ever said "i want to go to a HHH match", he wasnt the one drawing in those matches he was just the stable heel because he was banging the bosses daughter. Is HHH a bad wrestler? No he was ok, he was a good work horse for thar era as a heel but he wasnt at the talent level of Taker, Austin or rock, I wouldnt put him top 10 heels all time either
Bret also has openly said he dislikes HHH. He is gonna be bias as hell when it comes to HHH. Also Bret never worked with HHH during Triple H's prime. If you actually watched WWF during 98-2002 Triple H was the biggest heel in the company while also leading the most popular WWF stable, DX. He was one of the top guys in WWF during those years. He is also is highly talked about when it comes to his character, his in ring skill and being a top ring general by wrestlers such as Undertaker, Stone Cold, and The Rock.
@@huntersnake1140 This a joke? HHH biggest heel 1998-2002...really? Vincent J McMahon not exist when you watched? Id also put the rock, michaels and jericho ahead of HHH
@@huntersnake1140 agreed. If he didn’t have the McMahon’s son-in-law stigma he would be considered underrated. In my opinion he is right up there with Harley Race, Ric Flair, The Freebirds, Rowdy Piper, etc as the greatest heels.
One of the most accurate and unbiased takes of wrestling overall scores broken down into individual attributes, and of course it was courtesy of arguably the greatest im ring performer of all time. Thanks for showing why you're the man, Bret the Hitman Hart!
Bret just tells it like he sees it. He even acknowledges his weaknesses and admits that others are better at promos than he is, but doesn’t seem upset by that. I respect that.
While understandable why he said it, the "when Triple H takes charge" comment didn't age well.
I mean he just has to book well. Everyone is pretty well established.
Bret Hart
Look: 7
Mic skill: 6
In-ring skill: 10
Look: 8 | he looked cool
Mic skills: 7 | he grew on the mic and his best work was in 97 as a heel.
in ring: 10
25/30
mic skills 4 lets be honest@@jamaali2358
@@jamaali2358I agree. In 97 him and Austin were the 2 promos you listened to in WWF.
I'd say look 9 promo's 8 heel 97 and wrestling 10
@@donjohn26958 on promo? LMAO I guess the greats on the mic would feel insulted
Bret is pretty humble/honest on his ratings. He is my favorite wrestler to watch.
I love how he slips in the HHH dig right at the end. Funny!
I wonder how loud HHH laughs when he hears Bret's constant hate for him😂
Not nearly as loud as Bret is laughing now with everything going on with HHH’s kids’ grandpa.
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn so you used a poor woman sexual abuse to point score on triple h in youtube comments? you're a freak
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn Savage Comment 😂
I'm sure HHH has more than enough bills to dab the tears away from his eyes and cheeks lol
I doubt HHH listens to this nonsense.
Bret's biggest injustice was not starting his own promotion...
I'm reading his book ,he has a great mind how wrestling should be 🤟🏽
@@TravissMcCoy Yeah, when he presented the heavyweight belt for AEW I thought he was going to stay at AEW. Bret could've been the main booker of AEW and the promotion would've been way better than it is now.
I truly believe if Bruce never destroyed Calgary Stampede (twice), Bret probably could have done something with a Canadian promotion. Maybe smaller like the NWA is now, I don't see him running a HUGE promotion that would travel all over. But maybe an offshoot of the NWA brand but all Bret ideas and themes would be great
Being a great wrestler and being a great promoter aren't the same thing.
@@popetaytv Bret literally grew up in the business, he learned a lot from his dad and his takes on current wrestling is spot on. He'd do alright.
Brett's 6/10 mic rating for himself seems generous lol
He had a great look (if you were a kid at the time, you wanted Brett's glasses) and his wrestling still holds up to this day as incredible.
Imagine if he had a Paul Heyman to work with?
Keep in mind this was 2019, i'd love to hear what he thinks of things now, especially Drew has upped his promo game lately, that Drew || CM Punk promo was pretty decent last Monday Jan 8th, 2024.
Excellence of execution is an understatement- in ring ability was off the charts, all the moves and bumps were perfect
Bret’s promo’s we’re lit. Especially with the Hart Foundation. I’d give it a 8/10
Bret's self rating is spot on... he knows his mic skills were okay, his looks were right where he said it was although in my opinion he was a 9... the Pink/black with the leather jacket and the cool sunglasses were awesome for that time!!! and a PERFECT 10 on Wrestling skills!!! YES he was that good... very responsible and the safest to work with inside and outside the ring.
Paul's head just exploded when he said he has no ideas for anything! I agree with Brett 100%!
Bret and Shawn are still the two wrestlers I’d say are the greatest at what they do.
The two gentlemen I can call a double goat set
Triple H began his ascension post Hitman time in the WWF so of course he’s not aware of his abilities as a ring general but everyone he’s worked with in the very late 90s into the 00s has said that he was a ring general. His best friend was Shawn Michaels so I’m sure he was able to pick up a few tips from him along the way.
I think HHH had some great matches in 95 96 and 97
Damn to me as a kid Bret had the besk look, he looks like a rockstar to me as a kid so I gave him 10 for the looks, 7 for the promo and 10 for the wrestling skills. I love his looks with leather jacket, long hair, pink and black, Skull with wings and a heart. One of the coolest looks ever in wrestling.
It took someone that he really hated to bring out his best promo wise. But he made up what he lacked in other categories with a 30/10 for his work. He sold everything, and made everything look so natural yet stunning at the same time. His pacing, his cadence, his striking, his tossing, his bumping, EVERYTHING was as cool and slick as can be. His match with Bulldog is my favorite of all time.
This shoot on triple H aged so badly 😅
Kane:
Look - 10
Promo - 10*
Skill - 7
*watch his debut, and his first night on raw. Didn’t say a word. Arguably the greatest debut ever.
Skill was certainly better than 7. Dude lifted big show.
kane promo are pretty much non existent, its all the writers and people around him.
@@vik24oct1991 the organ, the complete darkness and fire are all part of kanes promo. He didn’t need words to intimidate his opponent or the crowd.
@@coolguy1127 But that isn't promo. That's more of his aura which would be part of his look. Not hating at all. Kane is one of my favorites ever if not my favorite ever.
Brets look was slways so cool to me , i would defo bump that up i think its at least 8.5/9
Bang on, and it's why The Rock was so great - he had a much shorter spell at top level than anyone else, but he had 10's for looks and promos, and a solid 9 for his ability to work in the ring, he could even work a crowd during a match FFS. The WWE isn't 'legit' wrestling, it's entertainment, if you can't sell a move or get the fans on their feet then you're in the wrong business, it's why Goldberg worked, doesn't matter how many moves he had (or lack of), for a brief period everyone was invested in him just getting in the ring and pulverising the opponent for a few minutes.
People talk about Bret looking small and that is pretty weird. He is a huge dude compared to normal people.
Well, I'm a big dude. I met hulk Hogan. He's not human
These are exactly the categories I've used over the years as well. Based on this scoring system, I've always been curious why people have CM Punk ranked so high. I'd give him a 3 on look, 10 on mic skills, and maybe a 6 on wrestling skills. I think he's a really good worker, meaning he is both safe, and well thought out, but his move set is limited. I always thought of him as a mid-card guy. Bret, OG Msked Kane, Guerrero, Sting, and Benoit are 5 of my favorite all time, for anyone who's curious.
You listed 5, not 4. Masked Kane was awesome, hated it when they unmasked him. Way to bury the character.
What about his charisma? Maybe he’s also relatable to some.
@@throwawayaccount6559 Agreed, but I suppose I put charisma in the category of mic skills. I could understand If you wouldn't want to combine those.....
A 6 on wrestling skills? No buddy it was at least 8. His look is better than a 3. You are being silly. The young bucks suck
@@christopherwilliams7905 he doesn't have any power moves, and I don't think he's that dynamic. He sells really well, and has a high motor, so that's good. I just think he's a notch below someone like Raven, Blackman, Saturn..... I put them maybe at 7/8 . Perhaps I'm just being too critical. 🤷♂️
While Brett was lobbying for himself, HHH was meeting or on the phone w/Vince. In fact, b4 his' medical issue, he was putting drew over @WM.
Bret is a 10/10 in looks.. he is the coolest wrestler ever.. that black pink style and that cool sunglass and his sharpshooter.. Bret Hart is every kids hero
Bash Hogan's wrestling skills all you want, no one was a bigger name in the wrestling industry than Hogan. Next is Stone Cold, and Ric Flair is there for longevity of being The Man. If you're making your Mt Rushmore, the next name is debatable. But those 3 are cemented in for all time.
Its jealousy bro
I would say the undertaker for the next name but not sure
@@babalarassrah Taker definitely has an argument. There's just so many guys that could fill the 4th slot.
Honestly Brets way of giving an accurate rating on a wrestler is absolutly perfect! Gunna have fun seeing what i think of a bunch of guys using that system
Whats ironic here, HHH is uinversally praised for NXT and revitalizing the main brands for WRESTLING. He could not be further wrong HHH's management or his fueds with Batista, Rock, and the Shield. Massively underrated ring performer IMO
God the audience is annoying not letting Bret talk
It's one or two guys in every room. Most people were quiet, but there's always a douchebag.
Randy Savage the perfect 10 in all categories
Connive is fitting. Even in HHH interviews of past and present, he is strategic for his come ups on how to remain in Wwe, and marrying Stephanie was his JACK POT to seal his spot in the business, fame, money and control.
Few people want to disagree with Brett on HHH but, Brett got it right with using the word Conniving.
Triple H is WWE (RAW 2003-2005)
I can agree with a lot of that , although I think Shawn's promo skills are closer to a 9, not a 7, and he's clearly dead wrong about HHH because he's been in control for awhile now and the show had vastly improved since he took over. Much better stories, great matches and feuds. Its been nothing but praise since he took over
I like it when Bret takes a shot at triple h
He’s got some resentment that clouds his judgment. HHH was a great promo, great look and was great in the ring. He was already a star before he got with Stephanie and was incredibly young and early in his career when hit man was there. He has earned everything that he got, and I get tired of hearing how hhh is only a legend because of dating the bosses daughter. Hhh was one of THE greatest heels ever and you can’t force an audience to make you a star. Brett is a legend for sure but hes waaay off on hhh. Undertaker even regards hunter as one of the greats and if taker thinks that then Brett is just dead wrong
@@thomasbaker9703triple H also drew more than him
@@bigolebothahahaha don’t make me laugh man. I don’t think any of us have bought a ppv or stayed up on raw to watch a triple h main event
@@All.Fathers numbers back it up... Sorry bot
@@bigolebottriple h must have used stephs money and hired some spammers to defend him online.
Can you name me a classic triple h match?? Anyone? Is there a match where triple h made a big time super star? Or did he bang his way to the top?
Bret one the 🐐 of WWE. His honesty is 10 out of 10.
Drews promos are now a 9/10 lol. 10/10 for the new category social media.
Bret Hart is never gonna let Triple H saying, "Fuck Him, if he doesn't want to business, then we'll do business for him," go....😂😂😂
Boy was he wrong about Trips running the company into the ground and him not having any ideas.
Maybe 15-20 years ago but Triple H has matured since then.
😂 show was great when Rock came back, now it back to same old, same old.
Bret from 1988-1996 improved immensely in look and promo. By 96/97, he was at the top of the card for a reason. At his peak, Bret was a 8/10 on look, 7/10 on promo, and 11/10 on work.
Brett hart's rating:26
9/10 on look
10/10 working ability
7/10 on promos
I'd give Bret a 8 or 9 on the look.
The look is iconic.
I used to be really fit, before i had to learn to walk again. If im blessed to build my body up, i really want to halloween cosplay as BtHH.
I'd say Hogan was more like a 6 or 7\10 for wrestling if you factor in his Japanese stuff. Only reason his US stuff was more basic was Vince wanted it that way, less chance of him getting injured and to keep the "Rock 'n' Wrestling" gravy train on the tracks for as long as possible, and Hogan was the figurehead for that.
Hogan was definitely a 7 for ring abilities, 10 for look and I'd say a solid 8 for promos. You can't just carry pro wrestling for a decade and be rated low like that. Doesn't make any sense. Yeah some of his promos were wacky, but his prime years were wacky years for pro wrestling in general. His heel turn promo in WCW is probably one of the best ever. "Mean Gene the first thing you need to do is to tell these people to shut up!"!
@@TheFlamingPike - If you look closely at Hogan be it heel or face; his respective character ran out of steam promo-wise.... By 91/92 in WWF his face promo's became a cliche of himself... Then he bounced to WCW and repeated his face shtick and it ran out of steam even sooner. The he had his heel turn and the same process played out but over a shorter peak period.... He was so boring during the second half of his NWO run.
The catch-phrase, sound-bite guys like Hogan would never cut it in today's era where guys like Cena, Punk, HHH or whoever would have to open Raw with a 15 minute promo every week. Even Rock struggled when he returned for the Cena fued.
You have to be on drugs to think hogan was a 7 on in ring abilities. Dude was extremely limited and only did a big boot, slam and leg drop for most of his career. Who cares what he did in Japan? That was a tiny fragment of his career.
@@Al-nt8tnno fan gave a crap back then if Hogan was or wasn’t doing “moves”. Only dorks did. Stop with this crap. He always had the crowd eating out of the palm of his hands”.
@@airfixx_8952 Hogan was a major draw for two decades my man. You can tell yourself he ran out of steam if you want but if you were honest with your argument you'd use it with other wrestlers and you'd realize Hogan's run was massive. How many managed to be on top as long as Hogan did? I can only think of Ric Flair, Sting, the Undertaker and Chris Jericho.
Of course Hogan's promos wouldn't work today. You can't compare eras that literally have decades of evolution between them. The business has changed.
I'm not a Hogan fanatic but people are delusional, trying to downplay his importance, skills or anything else. Hulk Hogan was cultural icon who transcended the sport.
I think Bret was very fair here in his ratings, though i would give Stone Cold 10/10 for his look. I thought Bret undervalued himself here. To me part of your look is also ring attire. His pink and black attires were always cool, his jackets and shades were amazing. I would give him a 10. As far as Triple H, Bret might be describing the 1997 Triple H. But he has matured and has a great mind for thrle wrestling business. He did wonders with NXT. He has a right mix of old school wrestling mindset and modern wrestling.
Stop it Bret. I met you in 1999. And you had a 10 out of 10 on your look. You were jacked AF. I was a skinny kid at the time and when I met him, I was afraid of how HUGE he was.
he was pretty solid on his ratings of hogan, austin, michaels and himself.
Bret is way too hard on himself for his mic skills. His promos in 97 were the best in the company, second maybe only to Austin. He probably doesn't think too highly of it because he hated being a heel, but it was great stuff.
LMAO best in the company? Right let's just pretend Austin didn't exist back in 97 who was the best talker of 97 😂
Fucking hell
Lol the guy couldn’t cut a promo to save his life for the majority of his career
@@kamfisher1714 He was pretty bad early in his WWF career and has acknowledged it.
Foley was there in 97.
The only guy who made wearing pink look cool.
Bret's promo against Shawn and against America are the best. He's not typical promo guy with catch phrase easy to repeat but he made it sound 100% real.
Bret injury was the best moment of pro wrestling
People laughed when he said Hogan was 10 out of 10 on his promos. Go back and watch his shit from the 80s. People believed in his character, because when the lights came on, he WAS that character. Just watch how effortlessly he would deliver those promos. You really believed that's how the real guy was, he was so convincing. He's a seriously underrated promo guy.
And the sad part is Hogan’s in ring work should have easily been higher than that. Hogan COULD put on an excellent wrestling match when he put his mind to it. His work in Japan, while not on the level of Michaels or Hart, was pretty astonishing when all you’re used to is his North American power moves.
@@Mr_T_Badger yeah. But consider he WAS the WWF, was his size, and had to take bumps over 300 days a year. He had to stay healthy. So he did just what he had to.
HHH comment didnt age well. He just probably kept all those ideas for himself because he was working everybody because that's how the business is. Bret should know that or rather the fact that Bret never did that is the problem why he has so many issues with people. He was too giving and it ended up being the reason why he succeeded and the reason why he failed in the end. Macho Man was like that as well. The guy could never get back in WWE despite the fact that he was always a professional
In Hogan's defence (not something I ever thought I'd say) his 3/10 working was only in America. In Japan he was a totally different beast. He was technical as hell. It's just that Pervy Vince didn't want him to do anything except for "Hulk smash!" in the WWF. His Japanese work was a solid 7/10. Not on the level of the Harts, Michaels, Taker, Lesnar etc, but well worth those extra four points.
It's a matter of how it meshes with character. Stone Cold had a very limited moveset after neck injury, and yet it still worked well with his back-street brawling gimmick.
@@Ziomaletto True.
Bret being humble about his total skill set. Legend. Funny at the little jab at Hogan 3/10 wrestling🤼 and boy he still jabbing triple H 😂😂😂
Triple H is doing pretty good with the creative tho
This guy had the best feuds the best storytelling ability in ring and sold like no one else. When I think back he has the most memorable matches in my mind
His feuds didn't draw money, sorry
Damn, I thought Bret would only shit on HHH indirectly. He decided to go all in at the end.
this guy is waaaay too humble his promos were fire
Agreed with everything minus the last blip about HHH.
Same. Triple H might have been an asshole but he’s done so much good since then.
Bret Hart saying Triple H knows nothing about the wrestling business is a spit in the face. He learned from one of the greats in Killer Kowalski & the political side of it from Vince McMahon.
That's why the current WWE product is a blend of sports entertainment (Vince's vision) & the story telling of old school wrestling (like his trainer taught him).
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Well today's wwe still sucks😂
Having good mentors does not mean you become good, and I don't think Vince was that good either. He was lucky WCW shot themselves in the foot when they were about to run him out of business.
The best pro wrestlers are the ones that put the most fans in the seats, sell the most merch, and make the crowd go absolutely wild with joy or hatred. Thus, best modern day pro wrestlers were Hogan, Rock, Austin. It's entertainment, not amateur wrestling.
Personally, I felt Bret Hart had a good look to him, about a 8/10 on promos, 7/10 on look and 10/10, so he comes in for me at 25/30, which is pretty dang good. (I really felt his look was his weakest point but it still stood out and his promos were usually good. Obviously, his overall wrestling ability completely outshined everything)
Shawn I put on a 10/10 on promos, 7/10 on look and 8/10 on wrestling abilities. It was once said, "Bret gave better matches, Shawn gave better performances". I felt that was accurate. (He certainly knew how to have charisma as a heel or a face, he had a good look and was underrated in the ring but his charisma I felt was always a bit stronger)
Stone Cold Steve Austin I put a 10/10 on promos, a 6/10 on look (He had a plain look, but he made it work), 8/10 on wrestling (While he wasn't so much a technician after his neck injury, he was still exciting and had a great brawling style that was well done).
Hulk Hogan was a 10/10 on promos, 10/10 on look but a 3/10 in wrestling IN THE USA. Over in Japan, before his knees and spine got so bad, I felt his wrestling was a 5/10 or a 6/10, much better than people realized. (Whether as Hulk or Hollywood, Hogan was an underrated heel and a legendary hero, he knew how to get the crowd invested with cheers or boo's, but when it came to wrestling, his timing was sometimes off and terrible, his brawling was simplistic and not as exciting sometimes as Steven Austin's.)
Triple H I felt had a 10/10 in look, when it came to promos I felt he was a 7/10 and when it came to matches, I felt he was a bit underrated, about a 7/10. (I felt he combined some technical wrestling and some brawling and some power moves fairly well and performed them well. His look was his strongest point to me, both his build and his outfits, minus that freakin' horrid terminator-esque one in his match with Sting, but I always felt HHH was underrated a bit and to my knowledge, Bret didn't wrestle with him during his prime as "The Game")
The Rock was a 7/10 in look (it was plain, I just gotta say it, as a wrestling it was plain) but he was a 10/10 in promos and a 8/10 in wrestling. (The Rock had some charisma that was just amazing, up there with Hogan and Austin, his wrestling was a bit underrated in my opinion. He had a rhythm to what he did and strong athleticism and a personality to his moves that really was excited and fun to watch).
While I would agree that of the greatest, HHH might not be as technical as Shawn Michaels, as charismatic the Rock or as good a wrestling as Bret, he was still a legend that could give great matches and promo's. 2nd place isn't losing when you're standing with legends and I feel that while Triple H may not have been the most ideal in terms of creative direction with the business, that doesn't mean he was a crappy wrestler.
8/10 on promo? Lo😂
One would argue that Triple-H is the smartest of them all, he hit the home run with Stephanie securing his position at the top of the business. Anything that comes after that is just details.
Straight facts. Him and HBK had phenomenal wrestling skills!
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