The £129 Carbon Supershoe.. but is it fast? Decathlon Kiprun KD900X first impressions review!
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- It's time to take the all new Decathlon Kiprun KD900x out for a spin. Follow along to hear my first impressions of this shoe and see if it can compete with the likes of Nike, Adidas, Sauncony and Asics.
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0:00 Intro
1:04 Facts & figures
3:18 Likes
5:41 Dislikes
7:56 Summary - Sport
Saw a over 40y old guy, who ran a nearly solo marathon yestday in under 2:45 with this shoe.
Just did the Belfast half and got a pb thanks to your warm up and fuelling tips. Was Gona try and do some GoPro but way way too tired , not sure how you do that!!
This shoe looks very interesting. Did my half in Reebok floatride 4(amazing) own saucony pro but my legs not strong enough yet for them really.
Thanks for tips, keep her lit!!
Totally agree with the point around the pricing, the shoe would have been great value at around £100, difficult to justify at the current price...
This one might not be perfect but the Trail 2 for £59 is the best bang for buck trainer I have ever owned and it gets use on road, trail and mountain races and the four pairs I have had have all done over 1200km+ before the tread would flatten.
I was cool on this at first but lots of things want my money, so durability is really appealing. I will probably add these to the rotation. I've been really happy with Decathlons Evadict race-light trail shoes. I'm yet to try road shoes. (Have Nike Vaporfly and Suacony Speed 2 in my rotation which I rate. VF is the gold standard and often reduced to £130 but that cost per mile is something I look at now when budgeting annual running costs).
Thanks for the review, Ben! I tend to try budget analogs of the expensive super fast shoes and have been awaiting a review of the KD900x since the shoe was announced in the early summer. I used Reebok Run Fast 2.0 for my interval training and was happy with them. They're comfortable, durable, and nicely Pebaxed.
It'd be great to hear your thoughts on the comparison between Reebok Floatride Energy X and Kiprun KD900x. They are both based on Pebax and have a carbon plate. People also have the same feeling from the Reebok's foam as it's stiffer than Nike's.
I tend to vary and explore now. I ran in Asics for years but now have a rotation including Hoka, New Balance and Reebok. Looking at Saucony as my next purchase potentially. Variety is the spice of life……
I like trying new shoes , at the moment I'm liking sketchers gorun particularly the speed elite carbon for racing . Loving the channel Ben !
Will keep you posted if I see them in Canada! Great review Ben, think I stick with Saucony tho.
I’ve had about 5 pairs of the same ASICS trainers, knowing they’ll fit, be comfy and no blisters. I’ve just bought a New Balance equivalent to mix things up a bit but already missing the Asics. Good luck in Berlin.
I'm always on the lookout for newer and better. But when it comes to road racing shoes, the Vaporfly Next% 2 works so insanely well for me that I would need a of convincing to make a change. The Decathlon is not gonna do it.
I unfortunately need to stick to stability shoes which is a pain because it's difficult finding a stable shoe that feels both good and fast! I've tested quite a few shoes and the best for me at least is the Hoka Rocket X - Light, lovely roll through and the carbon plate seems to act like a stabiliser rather than a spring. I'm really enjoying my running again and have managed to up my mileage loads without knee pain. Best part is they cost about 70 quid a pair!
Saucony tempus
Can’t knock the emphasis on durability too much - price per km is better and obviously better for the environment than buying 4 or 5 pairs of Nikes in the same time span.
I say screw the environment, I want to enjoy my running and especiallya race shoe should only be focused on performance. Nikes can last extremely long if you don't run on them like limp donkeys destroying the outsole. Ran over 500 miles on my Alphafly and they still feel better then any other running shoe out there.
Nikes aren't that more expensive and okay less durability but the Decathlon shoe can't be compared with other carbonplate shoes because it's not near the big brands.
@@davidh5429 yes screw the environment. Lets all run on treadmills indoors! Bellend
I’m very much a shop around runner with shoes. Alphas still my favourite for longer races and I love the endorphins but need something for 5-10k races. Sounds like I won’t bother putting this in the rotation. Appreciate the tips as always.
I like to shop around and try on shoes. It's weird after running in so many shoes that by just standing up in them in a store, you know whether it's for you or not. I got switched to Hoka Speedgoats from Salomon and Nike and now I am keen on trying Hoka's road range over my Nike road shoes.
Brilliant video thank you
Have to say when this video popped up as a notification I was excited. Now I'm glad to save the money. Who's going to put 200km+ into a shoe before it feels good? I'm running mizuno on the road and hoka on trail. Will never go back to Nike after what they did to Allyson Felix.
For my speed/race day I tend to stick with adidas but I still look around. For easy days I try them all: brooks, adidas, Nike, Asics, saucony
Thanks for your honest opinion on this shoes 👍😊
I've been riding in the Atreyu artist and right now nothing can beat the price point for what you get. I ran my first marathon in a time of 3:07 in them, so there's the proof.
Recently upgraded to the Vaporfly for my next marathon, but I also bought another pair of the Artist for my long runs/long runs with marathon pace. Right now no one touches Atreyu in the budget category in my opinion.
Have to agree about the price. They are a great training companion to speedier super shoes. I love them for the fact that they simply cruise and don't push me to run faster.
To be fair the proof comes with comparison. People used to run in some bricks compared to today's tech, but I'd be curious to see how that great time stacks up with you in those Vaporflys!
@@ChristianRunsNY Very true!
Also I live Chicago, but not running it, so I'll see ya from the sidelines!
Hat forward conditions indoors 😉 Always like the honest reviews. I’ve changed brands over years but it’s usually all in on that brand which currently is new balance from more v3 up to rc elite
Great review Ben, very true about the price. I recently got a pair of Saucony Pro 2s for £133. Can't see why anyone would want a pair of shoes they need to do 200k to break them in. I used to only run in Brooks but I've switched camp to Saucony recently.
Nice shoe, looks similar to the Vaporfly Next Percent. I wish they had this shoe in the States.
Great review and channel ⚡ Can I use this shoes in trail competition, I mean those works in mixed conditions? Street and forest/ mountain? Thanks a lot 😁
I tend to just go with Decathlon's shoes honestly, great value overall especially when you don't need the best of the best in performance
Great rundown Ben. I'm sticking with my Saucony and Hoka rotation for now 👍🏻 Genuinely can't believe the price point on these...
There are decathlon usa brick n mortar stores. I’m wearing a decathlon hoodie right now. I demo-ed a pair of brooks the other day. This shoe sounds exactly like them. My legs were trashed.
Would you say the vaporfly 2 is the best or one of the best 5k race shoes? I recently did my xc season opener in the alphafly 1 and it felt nice. I have seen reviews about the alphaflys 2 but decided it would be too heavy for a 5k. So now I am deciding whether to stick to the alphaflys 1 or go for the vaporflys 2🤔. This was a comment on the Nike shoe review video but I thought it’d be more likely to be answered if I posted it here.
I'm a sucker for Nikes. But they fit me well, i love how they feel on the feet, and I look for offers. So yeah.
I just got a pair of Alphafly's on ebay for $130 USD. My next% 2 has around 270 miles on them and I plan to keep them around for long tempos.
I was also hoping that your review would show this shoe to be somewhere near as good as the big guys,but there we go.As has been pointed out elsewhere in the comments (and by yourself) Decathlon do really stress the 1000K thing,so it is about perseverence.In training I use Decathlon shoes all the time.I rotate between 2 or 3 pairs and I go beyond 1000K with all of them.I run 65 miles per week and use the Kiprun Ultralights for faster stuff.After 5 years of running (touch wood) I have never had an injury.Decathlon shoes are much cheaper generally and they do discount them on their website;the only issue can be whether you can get them in the right size.When it comes to Events I do jump ship and stick the Nikes on though!😂I will probably try the KD900x at some point.Nice to see them reviewed on your Channel. 👍
Awsome Ben they look really nice definitely good for traning and road racing npt bad for price 🏃♂️🏃♂️👍🙂
Hi Ben, I've run around 150km with the kd900X, including one slow marathon, a GA2 10k and some easy pace training sessions. And I've a totally different impression. Personally I don't like the dynamics of the vaporflys, as a forefoot runner: they tend to be to soft and offer little to no control or encourage footwork. That said I do like the firmness yet controlled feeling the KD's offer. There are some points I do dislike, for example the shoe is not really true to size for me, in order to use the "bend dynamics" optimally I should have used a half size up. The durability seems questionable, as after 150 km some rubber areas are visibly reduced. Also I would like a diffrent insole, maybe I have to experiment here a bit but currently I would say the insole does promote blisters. Thank you for your review, I'am encouraged to try tome alternatives for my fall marathon: maybe I'll try the Altra Vanish Carbon again, or the Deviate Nitro Elite Racer!
What we're your thoughts on the Altra vanish C?
Hey@@christo354 , I had no opportunity to actually run the Altra vanish carbon for more than a short stride outside the local running shop. Price, durability (not even 250 km) and a subjectively "squishy" contact-feeling detered me a the time and choosing the Adidas Adizero pro. Yet my favoorit running show currenty remains the Altra Escalante Racer, I do appreciante the roomy toe cap, forefoot dynamics (you can actually grab the ground) and zero drop feeling. You see: I'm quite torn between the alternatives and have not yet found my perfect marathon shoe. After reading my own comments you might get the impression that I would be some shoe nerd craving those extra 2% power, but in all honesty, I usually wear my daily routine running shoes until hot glue can't hold them together, so I'm definitely no expert on the topic - but I appreciate a good, dynamic running experience through well designed shoes. Hope this partially answers your question. Greetings
Insoles are something you can change very readily and very cheaply. Should not be even in the discussion
@@parrotbrand2782 quite right! that's the - you have a choice part - of the shoe. Just giving my very subjective impressions of the out of the box shoe.
Can you try the Hylo light shoe out?
Agree with the price point, should have come in lower to encourage more to try it - perhaps they have done a small run to test the water but it has meant a higher price?
Tried many brands, always come back to Asics.
I was hoping for a better result but you can't win them all. I still love the decathlon brand. they make picking up any sport so easy. there is an Indonesian running shoe brand called 910, they make dirt cheap shoes as they own the manufacturing facility. could be an interesting one to try out some time!
New options are good but I’d stick with a proven shoe and pick it up on sale… got my Speed2s @50% off. Great deals are out there.
Honestly surprised about the weight given how minimal the materials look. Do you think it is in the foam itself? Or is there that much rubber, something else?
Question: I understand the reason of go 1/2 size up for splay...but what about all the other bits of alignment like where the arch support lands etc? I wear wides anyway so I don't feel splay is a significant concern. However I've got a niggle at my arch. Not going for large distances.
What are your thoughts on the roomy at my/ your current size vs the 1/2 size up for an average (5k race target) runner?
Race shoes I go go true to size (ie same as dress shoes). Toe splay is good for walking around and maybe long easy runs but for racing or technical trails, fit it tight to stop the foot moving in different planes than the shoe: They are meant to be tight - not to climbing shoe levels but similar principle.
Can you compare the Joma R3000 vs Kiprun KD900X? Thx!
Ben can you please review some On shoes, cheers
Can't really afford to have a 'miss' when buying a shoe- but if there was general great reviews over a mainstay brand I would go for it, if it filled a gap in the rotation. Apart from typical Nike/Adidas/Asics background- I've only run in Saucony since the endorphin series started and loved each development since. Picked up on Hoka on the trail, maybe felt I had a miss on their road shoes in terms of wear.
Always looking around at different brands for what's best for me, probably because I've only been running for 1 year and only owned 3 running shoes in that time.
Hi there.
could you please test Joma R 3000 running shoes with carbon plate?
I am a sucker for a bargain - but I do research - currently on Puma Deviate Mk1.
I found ASICS was the brand for me… until I started to get bored. I tried Mizuno Waves, and they were great but I found they weren’t as durable… better for racing than training. Finally, I tried HOKE Ahari and they were wonderful! However, the newer model was far too narrow so my running store recommended Brooks for me. There’s not as much cushioning in the forefoot as I’d like but they’re probably a good contrast to my cushy HOKA Speedgoat trail shoes.
I find I tend to go with the same brands but I do like to try other brands on the recommendation of a friend or trusted expert.
Agree about the Arahis model 6 is a complete disaster vs 5 for me and a few of my running buddies
I bought the Ahari 6 wide fit at the weekend and love the feel but the heel outsole is wearing really quickly already I will be lucky to get 100 miles out of them at the current wear rate which is disappointing
I’m a casual runner so I just buy whatever Adidas have on sale at around the £30 - £40 mark. Rotating between 2 road shoes and a trail shoe.
Decathlon produce some quality kit but this is a strange one. Very competitive market with much better options at that price.
Selling it on EBay ?? Can I buy it from you with your autograph inside the shoe…. Love it.
Seem to be all sold out now on their site! 🤯
It looks very similar to Nike ZoomX Streakfly except much heavier.
Nice review, and it's good to see a new addition. As a shoe reviewer, i'd like to see you actually take Decathlon at their word and run more miles in it and feed back on whether they do actually soften a bit.
Re sticking to one brand or not, I’ve been using ASICS for 20+ years. I’ve tried Saucony but they had a seam inside that kept giving me blisters, a couple of pairs of adidas, Brooks were good. But nothing comes close to the build quality and durability of ASICS for me.
Do they ship outside of uk? Here in the pasific?
Sounds like 2 different kinds of shoes I guess 🤔, but I like running in Nike's and Brooks. But would like to try those ! Peace ✌️
What foam comes close to the KD900x?
I really do agree with the "odd" price; as you mention, this shoe arrives "late". I even paid less money for the vaporfly next% 2. I was about to get the shoe but I purchased instead the Saucony Endorphin Pro 2 for 89.10 GBP. Great video Ben!
I guess it's not if it lives up to durability claims
I have ordered a pair and i’m excited to try them! I have several Kiprun/Kalenji shoes that I LOVE but I’m a bit sceptical about this one but we’ll see…
If the durability is really 1000+ km I think the price per kilometre is pretty good compared to other brands.
Let us know what you think about them?!? Be good to get some other opinions too.
@@BenParkes unfortunately had to return them without getting to try them out as they did not sit right on my foot. Have tried out the KS900 instead though and they felt great. I think they’ll take over as my go to long run shoe after my Saucony Hurricane!
Is it a suitable for overpronators?
I have yet to find a pair that can replace the Vaporfly, but that still doesn’t stop me from trying different brands. Recently, I ran with a pair of 361 Quikflame. It’s no Vaporfly killer, but given its price, I don’t mind using it as a training shoe.
What shoes came close and what completely didn't make the mark?
@@andrew-ng I am no professional shoe reviewer, but for a regular runner like myself, the thing I really like about the Vaporfly is that it caters to runners of all paces. I can run faster without feeling tired. For some of the other shoes I’ve tried, like the Adios Pro 2, to get to the same pace, I have to put in more efforts, and the shoe ends up making me more tired. The only shoe that comes close so far is the Alphafly 😂, but I still prefer the Vaporfly.
@@macau.friend Hey, thanks for taking the time to describe the run. I think you just swayed me to give the Vaporfly a try.
@@andrew-ng I hope you will like the Vaporfly. I own two pairs and have enjoyed every single run with them.
My running journey started with Saucony, and I am sticking with these until I can justify the Nike Vaporfly/etc price tag…
Well as Ben said, you can easily find older Vaporfly and Adios Pro models heavily discounted. I recently bought Adios Pro 2 for around 150€. And I’ve seen Alphafly on sale for about 170€.
Thanks for sharing Ben. £140 you can get the 361 flame, which is an awesome 5k/10k racer
How does it compare to the Next%?
@@leonal2680 unfortunately I didn’t get on with the next% due to my Achilles issues. It’s my quickest shoe over the 5k/10k, quicker than my Saucony endorphin pro 2
@@ThatRunningGuy That's great, what's the best site to buy it from?
@@leonal2680 just found them online for sale at greaves sports for only £77.50
@@leonal2680 I did a review on them.
I like no nonsense trainers i.e. Atreyu, Altra, Puma Nitro and Nike Peg....
Should of gone with a quick 5/10k or speed day shoe for £99. I think for a half or full marathon people will go with discounted Vaporfly/Alphafly or AAAP. It's a tough market out there right now.
should have. Wtf is wrong with people who can't tell two different words from each other ?
@@undefinednull5749 should've. it's the internet. this ain't an academic setting. the point of language is to communicate after all 💅
@@dogwalk3 Do you too belong to the people who can't tell an oramg from an apple? Or have from of?
@@undefinednull5749 gotta know the rules in order to break them! hugs to thee & thine 🤍
I like Saucony & New Balance. I’ve tried ASICS, but have always been disappointed. Won’t touch Nike.
I tend to stick to Nike as I really like their returns policy….when spending £100-£270 on a pair of shoes I like to know I can return it if I don’t like the way they perform….
What is their policy?
After running it for 10 k , can you still return it man ?…. Lol
Loads of brands have good returns policies these days
@@bd11777 I’ve not heard of any other brands that let you run in your new shoes and return them for a full refund if you do not like them, but if you know of any please do share as I would be up for trying new brands if they had the same returns policy.
@@Quincycle you can take them for a test run and if you don’t like them you can return them for a full refund within 30 days
If one likes the ride of the shoe it seems like good value to me, considering the durability of it. You could have one pair of those instead of going through 3 pairs of Nike's
For sure! If you like more old fashioned harder rides then this will be good! Not everyone likes soft squishy rides..
I bought these shoes and immediately took about 1 minute off my 5km time. I usually ran mid 24's to mid 25's, but with these I am running mid 23's to mid 24's. Because it is currently winter, I am not training, just doing the local Parkrun every Saturday, so once spring starts to appear, I will start training again and see if I can improve down to mid 21's. (I am old and a bit fat, so these times, whilst not as great as some, but better than others and I believe they are still respectable for my age and condition).
What're your ex shoes before use these Kiprun shoes?
What's the difference?
@@gitsapongpromthep1985 I was using Brookes before, which were just regular running shoes. With the carbon plate shoes, it feels like you are running down hill slightly, even when it''s flat. They just spring you forward each step, which saves you energy and makes your steps slightly faster. I can only recommend them. I have been running regular sub 24 mins, with no extra training. Once winter is over and the warmer spring weather arrives, I will start training and then see just how quickly I can run. Before I bought them, I would really have to push to get a mid 24 min time.
Such a shame. Would be nice to see a real alternative race shoe from the smaller players. Ben, is it you or Decathlon implying that the 2-300km break in, is a thing with these? Seems an odd thing for a performance shoe.
You can get Vaporfly 2 now for less than $140US/£120 if you shop around. Plenty of pairs on fleabay (new in box) that people are picking up in the outlets and flipping... It's tough to compete with the big boys in this space eh?
They’d be flying off the shelves at £100
It’s a no. I bought an Endorphin Speed2 for £99 recently. Kiprun has no chance in this market.
Decathlon has more than a few very good 40-50 EUR shoes.
I stick with a brand until they mess it up and move then I move on. Could be change of drop or not lasting as long as they should has been the 2 main reasons I've moved on to another brand.
A TRAY U..... come on now Ben it was one of the best films known to man!
Just an observation, but watching the ease with which you're able literally bend your shoes in half Vs. the stiffness of the carbon plate demonstrated by other reviewers strongly indicates the carbon plates in your pair of KD900X are likely broken in half. I'm guessing someone at the retailer or the retailer's warehouse team was bending your shoes out of curiosity and shattered the plates. Just something to consider.
Hoka Mach 4 is 105€ weights 250g in size 11 and feels really responsive. This shoe will have a hard time
I usually look and think about trying something new, but end up with the same Hoka shoe.
Surely the extra miles you get with this warrants the money compared to the big names that will have half the life span
I see that it bends like a normal running shoe
It looks like you're able to bend the shoe in half without much effort, surely that means the carbon plate isn't doing anything? I can't bend my alphaflys or hoka rockets....
I thought the same about the price point. Seems odd.
Think you’re being a bit unfair on this shoe. I think runners have gotten so used to modern super spongy shoes that they don’t appreciate something that feels like a traditional road racer, air streak etc. I honestly think this is a decent shoe. Every bit as good as a tempo next% a lot more stable at medium pace too. The super shoes are so unstable they are only really effective when you’re caining it. When you’re warming down or walking it feels like your Achilles is going to snap sideways
Chicken tikka masala?? 😮
Rocket X for £70 - worth a punt?
Yes!
Yes, for sure!
@@richardharvey4216 Thanks
@@BenParkes Thanks
I’m Canada and while we have a Decathlon store near us, we tend not to purchase from them. We need to do more research on how they can make all these products and sell them at a fraction of the cost of other brands-we need to investigate the supply chain and labour conditions. The low prices just make us raise an eyebrow. Can anyone shed some light on this?
ASICS 4 life !! There is no better brand(in my opinion)
10 years ago maybe :)
Thanks. I won’t be buying them. Good review 👍
To me running shoes are like car tyres. The best ones are usually dearer, from well established manufacturers that have done a bit more R&D and not necessarily made by the biggest and largest companies out there. I can’t knock Decathlon’s shoe because I’ve never even seen it but you’ll never see me put Landsail or LingLong tyres on my car. And those are made by multi-billion dollar corporations.
Shame, I bet decathlon set out making that shoe for £100. At that price it might have a place in the market.
Its only fast, if you have done the right training to benefit from a lightweight trainer.
If your a four hour marathoner, this shoe will not miraculously turn you into a sub 3hr athlete.
All lightweight trainers give you a phycological lift, and make your running feel easier, but unless your training has gone well, and is specific for your target goal, then these expensive shoes will not do much other than litten your bank balance.by a significant amount
I'm sure you've been corrected on this by now, but Atreyu is pronounced A-tray-you 😅 If you watch the classic movie The NeverEnding Story you'll never mispronouce it again!
I'm really annoyed about the carbon plate trend at the moment - it's not the plate it's the foam that makes the trainers amazing! Save yourself some money and buy some Endorphin Speed v2! Absolute worldy of trainer!
I am debating on making the switch to Saucony Endorphin Speed 3.
Speed 3 are on sale on there website with a code
FMTIB50 code
Its both. Been debated to death. If you have the money, spend it.
a tray you
I disagree about the price : if you compare the price with the durability with a thousand of km, there is no brand that can compete !
Dont you think?
£89.99 atm
I won’t be buying this I dislike firm shoes and also I’d rather get 200 good km then a 1000 bad ones . I also bet the vapour fly past it best 200km is still better then this
I do think it’s good other company are starting to make super shoes tho and the price would be a bargain if it was as good as Nike etc
I sadly only have shoes from the big company’s atm .
I’m still at the stage where I want to try all the different company’s shoes to see what I like but I’d like to try some less well known brands .
🎩🙋♂️
Bu5 if you like the firmer feel underneath your feet then it could be for you…..
Such a Vaporfly copy... 🙄
Just another nike's copy