Ex-Starbucks manager awarded $25.6 million in wrongful firing suit
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- The ex-manager of a Starbucks was awarded $25.6 million in a suit after alleging she and other white employees were unfairly punished after the high-profile arrests of two Black men at a Philadelphia location.
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Failing to lead?! Give me a break. She wasn’t even involved. How disgusting
It's disgusting when somebody is fired based off your race and the other black manager kept his job simply because he was black. Racism 100%
In the era of leadership being equal to caving the the will of terrorists
That woman was NOT the manager in that store at that time.
@Yvonne Plant fine then who cares about the job position because somebody was fired based on their skin color. That's wrong, and you know it
@@yvonneplant9434 we know that, we have brain cells unlike you. She was the regional manager. Thus, she would be the manager’s bosses boss. Regional > district > staff manager.
It's wild to scapegoat someone who wasn't even involved
Is it a public toilet? I wonder...
I don't think that it is.
It’s not surprising though. This is leftist cancel culture at its finest.
@@Pippie5555 business has rules you don't abide and refuse to leave you're trespassing
what if she was fired because she didnt train the local managers the proper way 😬, (if it was her responsibility ) idk just a thought..
@@yutupedia7351 Then the lawsuit would have stated that to create a better case against her or the media would have stated that to get more clicks. Instead it only stated she "didn't lead". If you have evidence she didn't train them properly then feel free to post it.
The fact that a wrongful termination lawsuit gets awarded $25m but a wrongful death due to medical malpractice averages at about $700,000 is crazy to me.
My mother was nearly killed by a "surgeon" that had a bunch of forged certificates from India, that were required certificates needed to hold the position in 2003. She ended up having to spend several months in a medically induced coma due to her complications. At the time of her "win" in 2006, it was the largest malpractice award in the history of our state. Literally front page news in our city... for a grand total of 1.5 million. After the lawyers took their cut, she got something around 700-800K. The doctor was banned from practicing in our state for life and had his license revoked... She eventually died from those complications in 2012. Last time I looked into it, he was practicing at Cedars-Sinai in L.A. To say I'm averse to going to the doctor for anything, is an understatement.
Alex Jones lost a $billion for hurting someone's feelings...
@Zhang Wei That's completely ignoring the underlying issue that was presented... Look at my previous reply to OP. There are unqualified people doing surgery on individuals, (that ultimately leads to their death), but "regional managers" that are wrongly dismissed get 20+ million.. Give me a break. My mom DIED due to willfully and criminally negligent malpractice, and my family got pennies by comparison. Oh, and the "Dr." is still practicing today in L.A., after losing his license in my state. OP's comment was spot on. She get's eight figures for a firing, while people die due to criminal negligence, and often go without anything.
@@mayomonkey3810Unless you were on the receiving end of Jones’ hate, you’ll never get it, so don’t try.
@Zhang Wei How is that in any way relevant to the fact that people that forge their certifications from 3rd world countries, are not only allowed to practice, but continue to do so after being found guilty by a jury in civil court of malpractice due to lack of education in a field they're supposed to be an SME in? Race isn't the factor. The problem is that people get 20+ million settlements for being fired, and clear medical(and CRIMINAL) malpractice, that leads to death.... is ignored.
I’m black, I used to work for Starbucks in her district here in Philadelphia (and have worked at that store before) and 100% agree. She should be awarded for damages because she did nothing wrong.
25mil reward because her feelings and reputation was hurt?, meanwhile the homeless are digging through the trash trying to eat to survive
The ONLY ones involved I feel deserve anything are the 2 Black men who experienced what they did that day. I was shocked & appalled when I 1st read about that story in the news. How ironic that some White woman gets awarded 26 million for basically what happened to THEM.. I'm SURE those guys DID NOT get anywhere near that for THEIR pain & suffering. Once again, a White person being rewarded off the pain & suffering of someone Black, like they don't already have enough.
She did nothing wrong tho
@@SHaqq-wv9hn Yeah because all white people are rich...
@@SHaqq-wv9hn👈🤡😂
I've been denied use of a bathroom when I wasn't a customer. I thought this was a fairly common thing.
It is. The marxists use race as a cudgel to villainize anyone who disagrees with their world view. We are in the middle of a cultural revolution and most normal Americans dont have a clue because they arent paying attention. They just wonder why the world is so divided and why tensions are so high.
Other white customers were allowed to use the bathroom but when the black customers did, they were denied. Huge difference from your experience.
White privilege buddy.
Apply the law to anyone other than white males, and you qualify for a lawsuit.
It is. Black people just always think the entire world is out to get them. They learned that from Democrats.
@@Coldfeverx3 you don’t know the context because you weren’t there. The black guys may have been belligerent.
Starbucks just plain sucks...🙄
Starsucks missed opertunity
@@TimArcher-zl9sbstarcucks 🤢
I drink home made coffee.
@@blanketyblank604r coffee barista makes a better coffee than Starbucks,, and it pays for itself in about 2 months!!! Starbucks customers are absolutely deranged to pay that much for chocolate squirted in dirt water
It's horribly over roasted and tastes like burned canned coffee. Utterly disgusting crap.
Former Panera bread manager here. We used to have combination locks in our bathrooms to stop non paying customers from coming in and using them without a passcode that was given to paying customers with their receipt. Also upper management doesn’t care about the middle guy, they will throw them under the bus without a second thought.
Does upper management care about losing 25 mil.?
@@ss_whole The difference is that combination locks are ethnically blind.
Sounds racist to lock bathroom doors.
Combination locks that's stupid crazy
she was a regional manager, above a district manager, above a store manager, above an assistant manager, above the employees. she WAS the upper management. above her you have regional vice presidents and then vice presidents and then CEO typically.
Those two guys still never made a purchase. I don't think "You have to buy something to use the facilities" is a bad rule. It's a private business, not a taxpayer funded bathroom charity.
In handcuffs, how could they?
Certainly it's unthinkable to grant a human being use of your facilities when they haven't paid for anything. All businesses should be this way. Those people should have used the lavatory before they left home. Menstruation, pregnancy, weak bladder and any other pathetic excuse for needing to use the toilet when not at home is unacceptable. No, they shouldn't use the toilet if they haven't purchased at least $10 worth of product/merchandise _AND_ if they relieve themselves outside, they should be jailed for a minimum of 30 days. There are incontinence briefs, people! Wear them, use them, change them and wash yourselves at home.
👍 agreed
That’s BS. Tons of people sit in there for hours doing work or just chilling. It’s a coffee shop. Just like how ppl run into McDonald’s restrooms on road trips.
Bathroom charity. Hmm.
Even the black employee testified for the plaintiff.
what does that even mean?
CLARIFY! The one lady who WON the twenty-five million dollars lawsuit was wrongfully fired because she WASN'T involved in that incident💯✅️☑️
@@excellingdeicide2967She DID NOT deserve this much money. It is just pure GREED. RIDICULOUS!
@@SHaqq-wv9hnand the two black guys did?
@@SHaqq-wv9hn someone green with envy
What? A lot of places are “customers only” when it comes to using the restrooms. They’re private entities, not public.
That’s not the story here. You are completely lost.
@@ezequielaguilar7651she’s commenting on a crucial part of the whole story. Shut up weirdo
@@ezequielaguilar7651It sort of is. They refused to leave and made this into an incident. Of course you can't hang around and use the bathroom if you aren't a customer.
Then, the woke mob came for Starbucks, Starbucks gave in and started firing people. The immediate person in charge was black, so obviously firing them would not appease the woke mob, and so they fired this lady instead.
I'm glad she won. This stuff is getting completely insane. People are SO much more terrified of this woke mob than they are anything else, it's completely irrational. There really aren't that many of these "outrage" folks. Organizing on social media makes them seem bigger than they are. They all flock together to the next outrage whether or not it has anything to do with them. As a percentage of Starbucks customers, though, they are small...and yet the business acts like they are at gunpoint. Spineless. Luckily, we are seeing the tables start to turn on this issue, like the case of this wrongfully fired women.
Peoples' lives are affected by this stuff. So, two dudes were wrongfully detained by the cops (debatably...they were refusing to leave). Big whoop..I've been wrongfully detained by cops and I'm white, I'm sure we've all had unpleasant interactions with cops. It's annoying, but not the end of the world. Losing your job is on a completely different level. The reactions are all just so irrational. It's literally like trying to make human sacrifices to appease the gods...gotta be white sacrifices, though.
Yes, that was my question too. Is the toilet public you cannot really stop them.
If it is not public you are free to stop anybody!!!
They want to play the race card.
Exactly what I just said
She wasn't the one that caused the issue. She was a scapegoat for public appeasement, instead of going after the right people.
The one who did bounce the loiterers wasn't even wrong for doing so. They weren't customers.
@@ANPC-pi9vuexactly. Doesn't matter if they were claiming that they were waiting for a business associate. Doesn't give them the right to loiter. Either oder something or leave. They refused to leave which at that point they went from loitering to trespassing and any places if business will tell it's workers that if a person is trespassing and refuses to leave, call the police to have them removed. That's exactly what happened. The police got called because they were refusing to leave and were trespassing at that point.
@@ANPC-pi9vu you are incorrect. The Starbucks policy is infact exactly what the two men were doing. They weren't loitering at all. The CEO has said this several times. Starbucks was created as a comfortable meeting place with or without purchasing. When the person they were meeting arrived (white man) that's when things shifted to "Oh, I guess they weren't trespassing.".
That's why they won their settlement. People hang out their all the time for various reasons.
@@ParisVan-Deland then Starbucks lost 25 Million for actually being racist thankfully
Who are the right people to go after? These two decided to sit in the store for two hours, not buying anything, decide they want to use the restroom even though they are not customers. So who were the right people to go after?
I have yet to spend one dime in a Starbucks.. $4.00 for a cup of coffee , Insane..
We’re in this together brother
Who cares what you drink ..
$5.25
@@BrattyBetty me, I care.
@@ellis7622
Yeah sure you do .. troll buddy
I'm glad she won. That entire ordeal was so bogus. Good for her. 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Lol she’ll NEVER see that $$$.
@@xxfexx3827 its already in her account.
They were breaking the law that no reason to be there they were bad people
It was also Starbucks' policy (at that time) in that area to remove anyone (regardless of skin color) from the store if they had not ordered anything. This was due to a significant amount of data that showed, for that store, that many thefts occurred from individuals who had not ordered anything but were in the facility or asking to use the restrooms. None of this was based on race, aside from the firing of the white worker. I have seen many individuals from various backgrounds, ethnicities, etc. asked to leave Starbucks if they were not a paying customer. The cops were not called on any of them because they left or ordered something.
I don’t recall because this story is old, but I believe there were other people in there as well who were loitering. People like to use the space for meetings (like the men who were arrested) and to work on their laptop.
Although they had not ordered anything before the police came, they were actually waiting to have a meeting with someone. The person did show up late as they were being arrested and they may have ordered something at that time.
@@kevt3770 They were 2 hours late? How long should staff wait for them to buy something?
sydtopia1 - Two HOURS late? The two men, early for a meeting, were in Starbucks for two MINUTES before the police were called on them by the manager.
You do realize all this took place in two ... as in TWO minutes? While all these countless other customers that you speak of .. of all races ... were unpacking their laptops, removing their jackets, setting up their (free) work tables that they planned on using for hours, talking on the phone, all while not having gone anywhere to buy a thing, in 2 ... as in TWO minutes, these men, on the other hand, who were early and waiting for a third (white) man for their meeting, were determined to be breaking the law and had 911 called on them for trespassing, they were put in handcuffs and arrested and this is done across the board and is “normal” for everyone and happens everyday to everybody at Starbucks. Ok.
I’m white and I had this happen to me at a Dunn Bros. Businesses have the right to restrict their bathrooms to customers. That’s why they provide bathrooms in the first place
if you were black, you could play the race card and force them to unlock it for you or else you'll whine to the media.
You were there to meet someone for a business meeting, you asked to use the restaurant restroom, they said no, you sat down, this all happened in two minutes so they called the police, you were handcuffed, arrested and held in custody for 8 hours, too?
Do tell us more of this same thing.
So you're racist
@@noble604even after the police arrived, the guys refused to order any food, and also refused to leave when the police asked them to. They only were arrested after they ignored the cop
@@noble604 and frankly, I think both the store and the cop were completely right.
Crap coffee, crap company, crap everything.
It's sad that a store had rules and she tried to follow it but then gets fired!! So much for Starbucks for protect their employees!!
She regional manager,she not followed any rules,she was nowhere near that store...black starbucks manager not allowed two black males enter bathroom,becouse they not ordered anything..starbucks can't fire black manager that not allowed these black males enter bathroom...so they fired white regional manager for that
She didn’t even do that. They said she wasn’t involved at all.
Apparently she was not directly involved, she managed all the stores. So even worse.
the point is she had nothing to do with any of it and didn't even know anything about it until long after it was over . starbucks fired her so they could put a black woman in her job
I’d have loved for so much social media pressure to be put on businesses back when I was working for certain companies. So much I put up with that I wish I could tell people about and show people the evidence. So much worse than this. This is unfair and it’s common practice. The outrage and surprise over this gives me hope that worse things are no longer happening. Good for this manager.
Could you possibly be less specific and non-detailed?
Thanks.
They were trying to suffice the black thing and ended up being racist against a white woman 😁
"So much I put up with that I wish I could tell people about and show people the evidence."
If you are not free to speak your mind, you already live in a dictatorship.
If you choose not to speak your mind, then you have already accepted a dictatorship. Don't do that, because it helps insure a dictatorship.
... what?
A lot of companies have a customer only bathroom policy. It cost the company water use, toilet paper, paper towels, employee hours to clean, & costly plumbing maintenance. I don't blame the manager not letting non-customers regardless of skin color use the bathrooms. I may be only getting half the story tho.
The whole situation is a disgrace. Especially the idea that someone can walk into place, buy nothing, make demands and refuse to leave. And ultimately get paid for being jerks.
Doesn't look like anyone is paying you to be a jerk on social media does it ?
@@BrattyBettyhe or she is telling the truth.
@@BrattyBetty your name suits you 🙂
@@maribelg648 👍
Rashon and Dante couldn't buy a $2.00 coffee.
I used to work for a Starbucks in Chicago when I was in my 20s. We allowed anyone to use the bathroom they just had to ask for the key. One night I was closing and realized one of the bathroom keys were missing. Went to check the bathroom and someone had overdosed. So I totally understand that stores policy of having to buy something to use the bathroom. I have many other Starbucks bathroom stories from that time as well.
ok and? that couldn't happened to a paying customer as well. Stop the bs
I disagree on the bathroom part. If a person is trying to run a business and all people want to do is come in and use the bathroom without buying anything then the customer needs to stay home and use their own bathroom
In a civil society it's perfectly reasonable to let civil men and woman that are going for a walk downtown to use the bathroom. If a business dosn't want to though it should not be enforced by the law.
If in a major city the bathroom is a place for junkies to shoot up in.
Wait, did he say they promoted the manager who made the call to police?? That’s the biggest outrage here!!
That’s because that manager that called the police was a minority, and Starbucks is race-obsessed, racist, and anti-W so they didn’t wanna (correctly) blame the minority manager
Good she deserves every penny
Why? For being white?
@@dav0n for being a victim of racism.
@@dav0n yes, because she was judged not by the content of her character, but by the color of her skin.
Or does that only apply to black people?
She will never see a penny of this money. Starbucks will appeal this for the next hundred years.
@@shakenbacon-vm4eu 🤚🏽allegedly
So that's why the prices are nearly a dollar more now 😂
What was never mentioned about this incident is that if those two men had simply left when they were asked, it never would have escalated and Starbucks would not have to pay this lady $25.6 million. Once again, Starbucks handled this situation in an unacceptable manner.
Those men knew what they were doing. They intentionally wanted to get arrested so they can use the race card, be the “victims” of discrimination and get money out of it. That’s part of the “playbook”.
What ALSO wasn't mentioned is that these guys should NEVER have been asked to leave in the 1st place. They did NOTHING wrong. The difference is that they are Black. They were not engaging in behavior that threatening, harmful or criminal. The TRUTH is: IF they had been White men (or possibly some other race), this INSANE incident would NEVER have occurred and that GREEDY woman would not have won an UNDESERVED $26 million. DISCRIMINATION? Now THAT IS FUNNY. She needs to experience some REAL discrimination to really KNOW what it is.
@@SHaqq-wv9hn If you're going to play the race card then you need to realize that this woman got fired because she was white. None of her black superiors got fired. How you explain that? Did these men do nothing wrong? They went inside a coffeeshop (which is private property) and occupied a table without ordering anything. Those tables are reserved for patrons of that Starbucks. You don't have the right to occupy a table at a restaurant and just sit there without ordering. She did experience "real" discrimination. If she had been black, you would be supporting her no questions asked. But it doesn't feel too good when whites play the race card, does it?
@@SHaqq-wv9hn She did. She was fired, unjustly. What did the black men suffer? Leaving a store? Wahhh...
@@SHaqq-wv9hn👈🤡😂
"Hey, let's have a meeting in this place of business, buy nothing while taking up a space where actual customers could sit, try to use the bathroom and then be given a simple request to follow basic social convention and buy something in order to use it ... refuse ... then get asked to leave and proceed to make a scene."
Yeah, seems like these were upstanding citizens. Truly great people who didn't deserve to be escorted out in any way, shape, or form.
The FBA community member way!
hilarious
that's BLM code of conduct section 3048.01(b)
Ikr. What monster sits at Starbucks and doesn't order anything? 😅
They got there early to meet a 3rd person...It's not uncommon to wait for the whole group to arrive before placing orders. Get over yourself
FINALLY justice for a person of color, white
you mean everyday?
@@Cal3000Not this day and age
@@alexasphotosgeneral3584 the society advantage and benefits got turned down from a 10 to maybe an 8 and it’s suddenly the end of the world?
@@Cal3000only societal advantage wht folks get is being scapegoated for the personal failures of millions of minorities who refuse to take accountability for their own lives
@@Cal3000
If I spent all of my time thinking about all the people who have advantages over me it would make me a miserable person.
But you can choose to be however you want to be.
Hahaha... this is funny. Firing the manager that was completely innocent. I'm happy for her. I think she should send the employee who turned her in a Thank You card !!! 😆
Thank you card? How about a cool million or two out of 25??
I will never return to star bucks and I'm a black man I think the way the white manger was terminated was very very wrong
@katherinebrown5720 why ?? That fellow worker sold her out. So the manager gets 25 mill and the fellow employee gets minimum wage....lol
As a white man who was once informed by HR that tall, white, men were nonpreferred candidates for promotion I approve this message.
Quite sure there are tall Black men out here who were told the same it's not like white men are lacking in corporate leadership
@@tonyapendleton9316 that’s not a good counter argument to his comment.
@@tonyapendleton9316
Please 🤣🤣🤣
Common factual knowledge that black people are given preferential treatment in every conceivable endeavor.
@@tonyapendleton9316 quite sure you’re just a victim who desperately looks for a reason to call white men racist. We got eyes, we see what happens every day in our society lady. Won’t just believe I’m a white supremacist because CNN told me so
I had a Spanish person yell at me because they only hire Spanish speakers. This is what my ancestors died for?
Boycott Starbucks. Forever.
True
I will never return to star bucks and I'm a black man I think the way the white manger was terminated was very very wrong
@@Wisdom24-7 im hispanic and dont really care, it's just a beverage company. i like the chocolate chip drink every couples months or so
@@Wisdom24-7 yeah let's boycott Starbucks
Still didn't hear the evidence she was fired because of her race.
And all this time I thought it was the manager that called the cops that got canned. Utter nonsense. 😡
this is the problem with the world. Who comes up with these crazy numbers, and the FOOLISH judges who award this money just encourages it even more.
They generally want you to make a purchase if you’re sitting at a table or using the bathroom. Everything isn’t about race.
Its common sense to buy something small if u are using the bathroom or sitting inside. Im surprised the two black guys was that stupid
I don’t know it’s kinda the same as all those Maga people that went in the stores whining about not wearing a mask
@Zhang Wei he has PTSD from Trump, so any issue he comes across he starts throwing a tantrum about “Trump supporters” and a bunch of whataboutisms.
@@LittleYoki trump supporters didn’t make it about race tho. Go cry elsewhere.
@@sollyparker3947
waiting on someone to meet up with then order all at once. people do it all the time. at bars ..at restaurants...etc
Just one more reason to boycott bucks.
Nah. The whole thing is stupid. The amount of the award defies logic. Awarding settlements because a non customer was refused access to a bathroom is ridiculous. Everyone should be embarrassed.
and with that the price of a Starbucks coffee just went up another fifty cents
😂
25.6 million? Come on now!! Ridiculous!
This is why I’ve been giving privately owned coffee shops my business. I don’t have patience for this kind of drama
All of it is because of 2 entitled people who refused to leave when asked to which any business has the right to do, nobody would have complained if it was 2 guys in MAGA hats and I know that for a fact because that has happened and these people celebrated it. Tired of entitled ACTUALLY privileged people who play the victim all the time. If the last few years have taught us anything it's that we 100% have 2 very different sets of rules and laws in this country at this point.
Of course, perceived racism is a great democratic party voting strategy and it works. Hitler used it , the dems here has learned well.
Yea pretty much. But you'll be called a racist and bigot for even bringing it up.
💯💯💯
Y'all reaching so hard to be racists. It's HILARIOUS 😂 EVERY HUMAN IN USA HAS RIGHTS. Not just the ones you want to have rights. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The two black guys who were arrested asked a white guy who was in the bathroom already “did he purchase anything” and the white guy said “no” yet he was using the bathroom. You people are truly uninformed and disgusting. You all think it’s okay to disrespect blacks while respecting whites and Hispanics
Bet those guys didn't get anywhere near $25million
Why should they. They weren't fired. I stopped at Wendy's to use the restroom and they wouldn't let me so I but a chocolate freeze then I could. It's pretty common and has nothing to do with race.
Why exactly would two idiotic men be awarded $25 million for blatantly disregarding a PRIVATELY-OWNED establishment policy that has and is still being used by other establishments? These two were not customers (didn't buy anything and there for can't use the restrooms until they brought something), were asked to leave, they refused to leave and therefore are now trespassing since they didn't want to leave. They are very lucky to receive any amount of compensation, to be honest, as they really shouldn't have gotten anything. Meanwhile, Starbucks fired a regional manager who had nothing to do with what happened, and the manager of Starbucks involved followed the policy that the company itself imposed. None of the managers should have been fired since they literally did what their policy was.
@@RasAlXander if you knew about the case, they were waiting for their friend who DID SHOW UP. The bathroom thing was to protect them from further lawsuit situations.
@@DoWorkNP I was just stating that fact.
How is it possible that damages are $25,000,000 when that person wouldn't have gotten paid $2,000,000 if they worked there their whole life?
Because sneaky Juhyoos who fire whites who did nothing wrong, and defame them thru that false firing, deserve to pay the price baby
It seem to me that somebody got some good common sense. Your answer is because she’s white. It would never happen to any other nationality especially blacks and Hispanics.
@@johnnietaylor5517 non-white people (whatever that means) receive outrageous settlements all the time
It's like people don't understand money. 25 million? That's absurd.
I’ve learned to make my own Starbuck drinks at home. Saves money and no drama ☕️
That's what I've been doing too for years now since I've been retired. 👍 I usually don't get too fancy (plus I can't handle the high levels of sugar anymore, those venti mocha Frappuccinos were starting to make me feel ill! 😅)
Amen
Corporations and franchises spend more money on lawsuits and look at you like you're speaking an alien language when you're running these stores and ask for a raise. What the- ‼️
Good for this woman!!!
I think i'm the ONLY person on earth that has NEVER been in a Starbucks lol ,, I dont pay 5 or whatever bucks for a cup of coffee lol
I've never been inside of a Starbucks either. Ben & Jerry's is another ultra woke business I've never bothered with. Now Target has been added to the places I avoid like the plague.
You are not missing out on much. Bad burned overpriced coffee.
I've never been. Two months ago they opened a Starbucks a mile from where I live. Ironically, it closed permanently on the first day of pride month.
@@drdoom246what does it mean ultra woke?
@@Chantalhewins Ultra Woke: Elitist persons or entities who demand that you accept their definition of what's real. Engaging in virtue-signaling with a focus on outwardly displaying their morals associated with protecting a perceived minority or disadvantaged group. Sees the world as a collection of groups with archetypal behavior even though that contradicts a disdain for stereotypes. Usually loud, argumentative, unfunny, and rooted in both Marxism and Communism. Typical platforms, causes, and movements supported by the Ultra Woke are: social media censorship, cancel culture, political correctness, defunding law enforcement, Antifa, identity politics, climate change, and the Democratic party.
good to see some justice. good to see a good post in the News
Sad those guys were denied the restroom. I use the restroom before ordering all the time especially at starbucks. But randomly firing managers, let alone a regional manager, for the sake of firing someone is some serious scapegoating. Why regional manager? Why not the CEO? A VP? Their coffee is nasty anyways.
These two guys had no intention of ordering anything.
They had a meeting there, and occupied a table. They Never ordered coffee or anything else. Big difference.
if its in the policy and you value your job then you will need to uphold it. Once they do away with that policy then its perfectly fine to ask without buying anything. Homeless people love it when you have an open bathroom policy.
Using the restroom before ordering is normal, but that’s not the case here.
The reason a lot of businesses have this policy isn't because they're evil cartoon villains, either. It's so homeless people can't shoot up in the stalls, leaving a huge mess that needs to be cleaned immediately in case of things like left behind needles, or potentially even dying from an overdose. If they apply the rule to them, they have to apply it to everyone else, too.
Getting awarded for refusing other people a service . That is the American Way.😮
Now the bathrooms are always out of order.
I have been turned down many times to use someone's and never sued I just thought it was policy.
That is a "you" problem.
Good for her ! I'm happy for her!!
Really but the those affected who’s civil rights were actually violated get nothing. Those men made to leave Starbucks need to sue the ex manager for violating their civil rights
Companies DO this. Sometimes just as a smokescreen. They scapegoat. Don't trust ANY company.
Good for her. People need to fight back.
Stop the anti white hate.
Failing to lead is a bit vague. Can the company be a little more specific than that?
When i went to school they taught us that everyone should be treated equally... not a very complicated concept.
School? How about your father and mother?
And the guys got a free college education out of it too? Wow…
I think they would flunk
I can't begin the number how many times I've been told I can't use the bathroom, I'm white and it never crossed my mind to start crying out racism and racism racism. I should try that sometime.
Good for her. She had every right to refuse them the bathroom for not being customers of her store and Starbucks wimpy caving to people’s racist demands was ridiculous. I’m glad the jury had sense.
25 million seems like way too much for this incidence
I'm white, & I've been told for yrs, the restrms are only for customers, too. I didn't like it, but private co's hv policy rights.
Different rules for different people
God is good ❤
Amen
Bathrooms and Internet are for CUSTOMERS. Why is that so hard to grasp?
The chain gonna start raising prices to cover for these lawsuits
"What happened and the way that incident escalated and the out come was nothing but reprehensible"
but not worth a settlement of 25.6 million dollars.
People have killed and charged less.
The two black guys should have gone to jail, not given a free college tuition. The store was just following policy.
All because two dudes, once again, refuse to follow very basic common decency rules.
I didn’t know Starbucks had a public restroom in their restaurants?
Who’s the real racist these days
Who you can't name
Everyone
Racism is systemic oppression and Blacks don’t control the system so blacks can’t be racist. Blacks can be bigots or prejudice
Good for her.
So she was fired for inforcing the COMPANY’S OWN POLICY?
I am glad see saw it through. Many cases don't even make it to court.
People are treating these establishments like their own personal offices and work spaces. If they want you to buy something in order to be there so be it. We have all seen signs that say “restrooms are for customers only.” Now these guys get their college paid for?
Smollet brothers lol
If you listen closely, it was a black district manager and black manager who called the police. But the CEO didn't want to fire black people, because well, you saw what happened when you tried to kick out LOITERS who refused to leave that were black.
It's lovely that people can be jagoffs and get paid off, just because of their skin color.
Anyone, regardless of race, knows Starbucks is tough on loitering. I was harassed 10 minutes after buying a $5 coffee to buy something else. What do you think would happen if I refused to leave? I'd get arrested without publicity, because I'm white.
What a load on nonsense! Black employees testified on behalf of the lady and also it was a white employee that called the police
Oh poor you. Such suffering.
@@SHaqq-wv9hn keep that same energy when black people get on here complain about the same things. Bet ya won't.
Actually your dumba** didn't listen close.. They said district manager who overlooks the store was black and promoted the person who made the call who wasn't a manager when they called the police... they never said the ethnicity of the person who made the call clown
@@SHaqq-wv9hn Funny, that's what I think about the two black LOITERERS. I'd never get arrested because I'd leave when asked to. I don't think my skin color gives me privilege. How stupid that people supported these two thugs.
Score one for the good guys.
It’s almost like using the bathroom is a human need or something.
Guess they should have bought something just like everyone else has to.
That's crazy, why would they fire someone not even involved
25 million. Wonder how that sum was decided on. Seems excessive to me but basically she will never have to work at another Starbucks again or anywhere for that matter. She should thank those 2 men who walked into her store that day as that got the whole ordeal rolling……..
She will never see a penny of this money. Starbucks will appeal this for the next hundred years.
@@SlumberSource she might see at least one penny I would wager to guess.
@@Faithful10415 yes, 1 penny. These judgments are worthless
@@SlumberSource False.
She won but doesn’t mean they will pay up.
Make a purchase or dont expect to use the restroom
Imagine protesting because 2 guys got arrested at Starbucks and spend a night in jail...
Starbucks is disrespectful sometime I remember wen I was pregnant with my first and only daughter I was about 5 months pregnant belly poking out and they refused me to go bathroom and I ask for manager said I can’t use it and my sister was buying drinks for both of us and I told the police that they will not allow me to use the bathroom they said try going to whole food across the street in Manhattan smh 🤦♀️ I barely go to Starbucks anymore mainly because of that situation.
You say Starbucks is disrespectful but it’s clearly different people. Everyone’s different 🙃
@@captainclifty alot of the employees is disrespectful okay great have a good night.💤 😒
@@isysse a lot of humans are disrespectful.
Go somewhere else if they tell you you cannot use the bathroom. Restrooms are frequently closed to the public for a variety of reasons. Why did you go to the manager? Why would you go to the police? Their say is final. It is private property, and they can use it however they want. I am shocked you think you are entitled to dictate how Starbucks uses its property.
I am sorry this happened to you Isysse, you have every right to use the bathroom especially if you were pregnant and purchasing drinks with your sister. I am truly sorry... be empower to know that your words and actions matter. You are more worth to God than you can ever imagine! have a bless night =)
Providing wit a free college education -"what you sayin' like I'm stupid yo?"
Kinda thought the same thing
😂, But supposedly they was there to have a "Buisness meeting " sounds like they planned this order
ordeal to get a reaction out of them, Because they knew there policy.
Customers look for a hike increase when you go back your next drink.....you going to pay for that lawsuit
This is stupid there are plenty of places where you can not use the restroom if you have not purchased anything/are not a customer
While I'm sure the ex-manager will probably be set for life with that millions that she won in the lawsuit, that's just a mere drop in the bucket for Starbucks, who racked in just over $30 billion just last year. The fact that they had to go to court about this shows that they don't care about her race, all they care about is profits. However, this video only touched on 1 topic in which people have protested on Starbucks in the past. Even their own employees aren't happy with Starbucks for other reasons.
That's sales. Starbucks' net income (profit) last year was $3.28 billion. So $25.6 million is just under 0.8% of their annual profit. That's a pretty hefty chunk for a single line item. Like someone making $50k/yr losing $400. Add in their court costs and settlement with the two black gentlemen, and it's probably over 1% of their annual profit.
Well yes but the bigger picture is, corporate america and employers are being put on notice that employees have rights too, so do the right thing and stay out of politics.
@@solandri69 $30 billion in revenue makes way more sense than $30 billion in profit. When I read his comment, my mouth dropped, until I read yours and suddenly it was more believable.
you did not listen, its not settled yet. as of today it still $0
More should win Shawrtz sucks
She will never see a penny of this money. Starbucks will appeal this for the next hundred years.
After they fired her for being white ?
Right? This is what I figured but I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to legalities I cases like this. Time to Google it up🤓
she won the case, that must bring her some psychological relief. Imagine having to fight for 5 years, not being sure if they're gonna believe you or not.
@@likmijnreet4542 she along with her attorneys are not in it for anything other than taking Starbucks for a ride. I hope Starbucks spends millions to make sure her and her attorney's get ZERO
They need to throw this reward out of court.. hopefully it is dismiss.. is that racist white woman doesn't deserve a dime..
where was the outrage when numerous locations refused to serve Police Officers ???? They obviously do not have policies for service to all customers.
Racism is monitized.
Keep playing the game. No ones racist anymore. They're all just trying to get paid.
Capitalism
Wow. It must be great to live in your alternate reality.
This was a crappy situation that ultimately ended up working out. The 2 guys who were falsely arrested were givien a lawsuit settlement and a free college education. Plus this woman who was wrongly wrongfully fired ended up getting millions in a lawsuit settlement. I say all is well that ends well!
They weren’t falsely arrested though, they were told to leave and they continued to trespass and holler. Uncivilized low 👁️ Q behavior shouldn’t be financially rewarded
I'm so tired of these corporations
It’s wierd to me that a company can’t fire someone for any reason whatsoever
Charbucks tried to be so woke...letting POCs loiter in their shops and the homeless use their bathroom as shooting galleries only to fight tooth and nail against unionization a few years later 😂 😂 😂
You also forgot they outright closed a ton of the stores in certain neighborhoods that it eventually became issues in.
You know; that regional manager deserved a payout, but is 25m an awful lot?
I wasn’t on the jury.
Its about sending a message to corporations.
It was symbolic
She’s white so the 25 million is justified, if she was black she wouldn’t have gotten near that
How do they come up with these settlement amounts. 26.5 million is ridiculous
It’s only ridiculous when a white person gets it but would be perfectly fine for a black person right ?
She’s white so the 25 million is justified, if she was black she wouldn’t have gotten near that
I never have this kind of luck.
Finally, some REAL justice for once...
As opposed to what