Watch Beat Rates compared - 3600, 18000, 21600, 28800, 36000 & 57600 BPH

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Komentáře • 781

  • @adulttoks
    @adulttoks Před rokem +37

    This is incredibly poetic. In some way you expect the smoother (higher beat) watches to 'get there quicker', but in reality they all take the same time to get there. For a race (no pun intended) so focused these days on achievement and success -at speed-, there's a lesson here. We all get there! Even if it's not as smoothly as the next person.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před rokem +3

      That was pretty deep, well done 👍👍

    • @leonardgaming
      @leonardgaming Před rokem +1

      There are a lot of quartz movements with higher beat rates. My favorite is currently the bulova lunar pilot

  • @IaMaPh1991
    @IaMaPh1991 Před 5 lety +622

    Honestly, if more quartz watches implemented the smooth sweep second-hand, I would happily buy them without question, despite my preference for automatics.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 5 lety +21

      Haha so true 😃

    • @MegaZidzid
      @MegaZidzid Před 4 lety +4

      a week ago, I've seen Casio analog quartz watch with sweeping second hand

    • @Dave062YT
      @Dave062YT Před 4 lety +3

      I bought a Galaxy watch and have limitless dials to choose from [Sinn 104 my fave ]and each one is as accurate as you can get with a beautiful sweeping seconds hand ,

    • @MegaZidzid
      @MegaZidzid Před 4 lety +35

      @@Dave062YT too bad its battery won't hold more than few days, and it doesn't do ticking

    • @Dave062YT
      @Dave062YT Před 4 lety +3

      @@MegaZidzid Not a problem at all to charge it for an hr every 3 days and u can get them to tick if you really want that .I'm a long time watch collector and since bought this 6 months ago really havent wanted anything else

  • @gioro98
    @gioro98 Před 6 lety +505

    0:30 1 beat per second
    01:03 5 beats per second
    02:03 6 beats per second
    03:03 8 beats per second
    04:03 10 beats per second
    05:03 16 beats per second
    07:00 all watches compared on screen

    • @freedomblazesproductions7485
      @freedomblazesproductions7485 Před 6 lety +1

      Should just be like this

    • @ALSea24
      @ALSea24 Před 6 lety +3

      Price tag:
      Moneyyy to MONEEY to Take my kidney
      (Ain't got no money but need the watch )

    • @hiyukelavie2396
      @hiyukelavie2396 Před 4 lety

      The hero that we needed

    • @johandevries879
      @johandevries879 Před 4 lety

      Fe many Russian watches have 19.800 bph...which is 5.5 beats per second.

    • @robertlozyniak3661
      @robertlozyniak3661 Před 4 lety +1

      Let's face it: the only reason they use beats per hour rather than per second is to sound fancier.

  • @de_anubis
    @de_anubis Před 4 lety +29

    Never was a fan of Quartz watches just because of their 3600 movements. Didn’t know that there are ones out there with higher frequencies. Thanks for that video! I just learned a lot from you! :)

  • @muffemod
    @muffemod Před 6 lety +80

    I love that you mentioned benefit of longer service interval. Good job.

  • @HennerZeller
    @HennerZeller Před 6 lety +84

    And for really high BPH, a Bulova Accutron is the pinnacle: 1296000 BPH, 360/second - directly driven by a tuning fork.

    • @BusyBadger
      @BusyBadger Před 5 lety +3

      Ah, if only I had one.❤️
      I'm a longtime Bulova fan, but I've never owned an actual tuning fork driven model.

    • @BeardyBaldyBob
      @BeardyBaldyBob Před 5 lety +5

      Ahh, you seem to have forgotten Mr Hetzel then went to Omega and developed the 720hz Megasonic! :)
      I absolutely love mine, its silky smooth.
      Got a few 214 and 218s too.
      They are tricky but fun to work on.

    • @lenzielenski3276
      @lenzielenski3276 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I love my Omega with the Accutron movement. That perfectly smooth second hand movement is mouth watering.

  • @spookyspoots
    @spookyspoots Před 7 lety +252

    I turned this on to kill some time but it turned out to be really interesting! Nice video.

  • @ryanburbridge
    @ryanburbridge Před 7 lety +630

    Spring drive!!!!

    • @ChristianKrean
      @ChristianKrean Před 6 lety +69

      Aunchient Pistol it’s more a machenical than a Quartz because iT has a self-winding rotor......don’t see that on your avarage Quartz piece -_-

    • @Nikioko
      @Nikioko Před 6 lety +94

      No it isn't. It is mechanical with a built-in timing machine that - in fact - is quartz. But it doesn't change the fact that the movement itself is mechanical.

    • @stevenc7877
      @stevenc7877 Před 6 lety +4

      Also magnetic

    • @Nikioko
      @Nikioko Před 6 lety +26

      Steven: So are the brakes of a streetcar. But that doesn't make it a maglev train, does it?

    • @wooferjr169
      @wooferjr169 Před 6 lety +17

      In other words, spring drive is mechanical movement, quartz is there for the mechanical movement to check with the quartz to see if it is keeping accurate time.

  • @nizammohd643
    @nizammohd643 Před 6 lety +184

    Grand Seiko has the smoothest sweeping movement. A good informative video.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +25

      +nizam mohd yup, spring drive has no real competition 😊

    • @issealo7990
      @issealo7990 Před 6 lety +44

      Grand Seiko's is the actual meaning of smooth sweeping. And it is deadly accurate. I have had the luck to handle GS and I can say it is a pleasure to watch (no pun), to look at and to handle. Exceptional quality, for half the price of a Rolex. Owning a GS should be a human right.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +2

      +Isse Al O haha I would like that

    • @TheBimmerfan
      @TheBimmerfan Před 6 lety +1

      Watch Geek Omega's Co-axial escapement has no real competition.

    • @1701spacecadet
      @1701spacecadet Před 6 lety +1

      Bulova's UHF is just as smooth.

  • @MrMadvillan
    @MrMadvillan Před 2 lety +11

    Just to think, pre quarts, "dead seconds" or 3600bph was considered one of the most difficult beat rates in nautical timekeeping.

  • @Mr_Santo5
    @Mr_Santo5 Před 3 lety +6

    Appreciate how you timed the seconds hand with all the watches at the end to be in the same location on the dial. I watch reviews where they always compare two watches or more and each watch is timed differently. Great job!

  • @WatchesAndCars
    @WatchesAndCars Před 6 lety +78

    Very educational video. Great job!

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      +GreatAffordableWatches thanks 😊

  • @nickkonig5278
    @nickkonig5278 Před 7 lety +12

    All the Accutrons came with tuning fork technology that gave them a continuous sweep, accurate to within + or - 2 seconds per day.

    • @floydburkett2749
      @floydburkett2749 Před 7 lety +3

      Nick Konig god i wish they still made those movements

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety +2

      +Floyd Burkett I wish that too, they could at least issue a historic line of a few limited edition models with the REAL Accutron movement

  • @hoppysport2872
    @hoppysport2872 Před 5 lety +4

    Wow, just beautifully produced and written. I have the Bulova Moon Watch and always run the chrono, even though I know that it will tax the battery. However it's so much fun to look at. So smooth and accurate.

  • @mbyard356
    @mbyard356 Před 5 lety +8

    Very interesting to see those side by side. I also have an old Timex that runs at 4 BPS / 14,400 BPH.

  • @alexandredeoliveirapenna198

    Now I'm seeing some of you older videos. This one is incredible. And Precisionist movement is marvelous. Thanks a lot

  • @garethcollocott6310
    @garethcollocott6310 Před 3 lety +2

    Crisis that King Seiko is amazing, absolutely beautiful!

  • @SilencedMi5
    @SilencedMi5 Před 4 lety +3

    Hey man, I've been enjoying your videos and comments around WatchTube for some time. I really appreciated the extra effort you took to "pass the baton" between the second hands during the shot after shot comparison of these watches beat rates. You even sync'd the chrono to the face seconds on the Lunar Pilot! Great stuff, keep it up :)

  • @technophiliac2282
    @technophiliac2282 Před 7 lety +51

    Cool video. I think 8bps would be a perfect combination for accuracy and maintainability.

    • @neuromancerXL
      @neuromancerXL Před 6 lety +4

      Some brands/models toward the higher end used 18,000 BPH Hand winding movements still. Like Panerai with the UNITAS 6497 and Chezard caliber 7400

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +4

      +Neuro yup, which why lower beat doesn't mean lower grade of movement 😊

  • @nadeembhutto5675
    @nadeembhutto5675 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent video. It's very nice to understand a low beat nd a hi beat automatic watch. I love watches nd I have a collection, but now I'll keep it in my mind because beat rate tell us the worth nd quality of mechanical watch. Thank you. Very Respect from Pakistan 👍❤️

  • @gabegarcia1993gg
    @gabegarcia1993gg Před 6 lety +10

    That moment when you look at your watch and the time is synced 😎

  • @davidcoleman2463
    @davidcoleman2463 Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting . Thank you . I have a Bulova automatic from 1949 . It looks like it is going like the Sieko . 6 beats per sec . It is 17 joules .

  • @tippykaffu4047
    @tippykaffu4047 Před 4 lety +9

    Watch Geek:"If you want high beats, you gotta go back to quartz"
    Zenith Defy Inventor: "Let us introduce ourselves" *goes 18hz*

  • @nikoligogle3153
    @nikoligogle3153 Před 5 lety +2

    The last moments are very satisfying to watch! 😃

  • @farhatbdhj
    @farhatbdhj Před 5 lety +14

    "I will shut up for now, thank you for watching. Bye". 06:35

  • @vincenthugoscheererlazo3675

    I believe the Bulova on the video is a quartz watch (Bulova Moon watch), which means that regardless of the higher beat rate, it will probably need less servicing than other mechanical watches, probably even less than lower beat mechanical watches (I'm going on a limb here). Quartz are battery powered, which means that they have less moving parts (no balance spring or wheel) which means less maintenance needed. However, the rule mentioned in the video still remains true if we're talking solely about mechanical watches.

  • @cpgautam172
    @cpgautam172 Před 4 lety +13

    I personally like the 1beat per sec, i just like hearing each second when it's very silent.

  • @EagleTrue
    @EagleTrue Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this video ! I can finally see the difference between each movements

  • @alsh2010
    @alsh2010 Před 7 lety +87

    Who the hell gave this a thumbs down? This is a great video. Thanks!

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      +Private Parts Haha thanks :)

    • @GlawberOliveira
      @GlawberOliveira Před 6 lety +1

      Private Parts admit it matE, *you* thumbed down the video

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +2

      Haha

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +4

      Enlighten me about the wrongs in the video

  • @LambentOrt
    @LambentOrt Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the comparison video. As a beginner to the watch world, it's very helpful.

  • @calebknipp4817
    @calebknipp4817 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm one of the rare few who actually prefer the movement of a quartz seconds hand. To me, nothing is better than a high quality quartz ticking perfectly in line with the markers, nailing every one. Something like The Citizen line is perfect.

  • @garywillacey9979
    @garywillacey9979 Před 6 lety +2

    Well explained & very well put together.
    Thank you for taking the time to do this.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      Thanks for watching and for the kind words 😊👍

  • @iAPX432
    @iAPX432 Před 3 měsíci

    There are also the Bulova Accutron with electronic tuning fork (300 Hz or 360 Hz), with a real sweeping second hand.

  • @wayneturner1336
    @wayneturner1336 Před 4 lety +7

    Bulova 262 khz runs at 16 beats per second from what I have read about the movement and seems to be accurate according to the UHF Bulovas I own. I have several that have yet to go out of synch with atomic time over the past 5 months. I think, in my opinion, that they’re superior to the higher end mechanicals I own and really enjoyable to watch. Of course Bulova does make some really unattractive train wrecks, but they’ve got great history and some real innovation under their belt.

    • @davidgarland2533
      @davidgarland2533 Před 8 měsíci

      I have a bulova accutron from 1972 tuning fork model unsure if it beats 360 or 180 a second still less than 7 seconds a month, omega made 300hz models and Citizen had a licences agreement with bulova to produce them. Unfortunately quartz killed them

  • @pwally2714
    @pwally2714 Před 4 lety

    A year after this video, and a cool $40,000 USD
    Breguet Classique Chronométrie 7727
    The 7727 is remarkable for a number of reasons, not least because it is equipped with a 10Hz (72,000 bph) engine - twice as fast as a ‘typical’ 5Hz high-beat movement. This means it offers a 1/20th of a second accuracy. To reduce the wear and tear sustained by such a high-speed system, Breguet created a lubricant-free mechanism using silicon parts. Breguet also reworked the architecture of the balance, employing two endstones with powerful micro-magnets to keep the balance staff centred and self-adjusting.

  • @robertwilliams2850
    @robertwilliams2850 Před 7 lety

    A piece of advice on old Accutron calibers. The 214 Spaceview is very voltage sensitive. It was designed for a 1.3 volt mercury battery which is no longer made. The 1.5 volt silver based battery makes them run fast. Esslinger, and no doubt others, sell a 1.5 v battery with a resistor on it that lowers the voltage to 1.3v. I'm sure it works but not in my Spaceview which needs a good servicing. Due to a change in the way the caliber 218 handles shock, mine runs well on a 1.5 volt battery. It is not as cool as the Spaceview but runs very well. Just some thoughts on the subject.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      +Robert Williams oh wow thanks for the info, I appreciate it!
      I would like to get an Accutron in the future, not necessarily a Spaceview, although I find it to be the coolest looking 😛 as that technology is incredible and it's a shame Bulova doesn't make a historic line with them

  • @phillycheesetake
    @phillycheesetake Před 7 lety +11

    With modern materials and mechanisms, 18,000vph watches can be almost as accurate as 28,800vph or 36,000vph watches. Many of the world record-competing chronometers have balance frequencies lower than 4Hz.
    I really like 18,000vph, especially on a dress watch, or on a 30-minute chronograph. Measuring fifths of a second seems much neater than sixths or eighths.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety +1

      +ChasingTruth TakingFlak so true 😊

  • @brianboru636
    @brianboru636 Před rokem +1

    When you're sat there watching that second hand revolve around, just remember, thats your life ticking away.

  • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
    @AvgJoeWatchReviews Před rokem

    Great video. Nicely done.

  • @remoskeemoful
    @remoskeemoful Před 5 lety +1

    Loved the thumbnails work at the end. Very smooth. Thank you for the info.

  • @rajgill7576
    @rajgill7576 Před 4 lety +1

    Beats per second was confusing for me, I counted 3 "ticks" a second when it claimed 5 beats per second. The beats count starting and stopping of the hand as separate beats. Start-stop-start-stop-start per each second

  • @peterwasshhs
    @peterwasshhs Před 2 lety +1

    great vid and info - thank you very much 👌

  • @ronaldfaber9443
    @ronaldfaber9443 Před 2 lety

    Kind of a Quartz geek here. Just unboxed my Bulova Precisionist 98B267 which is not so over the top lookswise. Could watch it run for hours.

  • @jackl.4738
    @jackl.4738 Před 4 lety +1

    GS Spring Drive

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers Před 6 lety +1

    There are cheap quartz clock movements that have true, stepless sweep seconds, essentially they are stepper motors with a flywheel. It should be possible to do the same with a quartz watch. There was also a prototype Hamilton movement with the Clifford magnetic escapement, almost a tuning fork which had a smooth sweep second hand. They only built two, of which only one is known to exist.

    • @donaldasayers
      @donaldasayers Před 11 měsíci

      A Hamilton watch with a Clifford escapement came up for auction in the UK only recently, which leads me to suspect that there may be more than one floating about.
      Funny to watch a CZcams video that you had forgotten, only to read a comment that I had written 5 years ago.

  • @zenithworld6618
    @zenithworld6618 Před 3 lety

    Nice video! Thank you so much. Zoom up on moving hands in each beats are really interesting and important info for me.

  • @mikls168
    @mikls168 Před 6 lety +15

    Hello guys, This video has a major mistake, using beat rates for second hand movement and for mechanical balance wheel or quartz crystal beat rate at the same time and mix it regularly discussing one watch and an other. What is sure, that for mechanical watches the balance wheel beat rate has a direct relation to the second hand beat rate. But that is not true for quartz watches, because the ordenary quartz watch has a 32.768 beat rates for the quatz crystal. This rate is diveded down to one per sec, which moves the second hand. The main reason of this is battery energy saving. In case of Bulova high frequency quartz technology, they have choosen the second way of improve accuracy ( the first way is thermo compensation) namely inceasing the quartz crystal frequency ( beat rate) eight times compere to regular quartz watch. By this they give the signal rate forward to the second hand, that the reason, that the second hand of this wacht moves eight times per second, what is equal with the traditional 28.800 beat rates of a mechanical balance wheel watch. So, the movement of this Bulova's second hand is as smooth as a mechanical watch.
    The beat rates of the driving part of the watch ( balance wheel or quartz crystal) is relates to the accuracy of the watch, but the final accuracy depend on many other factors too.
    Anyhow, the eight times high frequency of the Bulova's precisionist watches still not the highest frequency of the industry, many many decades ago Omega produced the so called Marine Chronometer watch with 2,4Mz frequency what is about 75 times higher beat rate for the quartz crystal as the normal one.
    Enjoy your watch, and all the best to you. Miklós

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +3

      +mikls168 thanks for such an informative comment, I was using the Bulova 8 beats per second seconds move to illustrate how a mechanical watch with 28.800 bph moves since I didn't have a mechanical watch. The accuracy increase I mention was related to mechanical ones

    • @davidmccullough5631
      @davidmccullough5631 Před 6 lety +3

      But I'm not too concerned about the accuracy of my watches. I wear them for style and the convenience of being to look down at my wrist to see the time. I like a smooth second hand, others might like the opposite. In today's day and age it's easy to sync a clock to an accurate time source, so absolute accuracy is not as important as it once was. Definitely enjoyed the video.

  • @charliegone1652
    @charliegone1652 Před 6 lety

    That Bulova Accutron II movement is so smooth...love it.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      +Charliegone yup it's really a thing of beauty

  • @JRoJamz
    @JRoJamz Před 6 lety +3

    What a great video. I am in love with mechanical watches in general, but also have an affection for Bulova, dunno why. So I kinda want a CURV.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +1

      +Jim Rodriguez Bulova is very cool so no reason to question the affection 👍

  • @johndoe-ln4oi
    @johndoe-ln4oi Před 6 lety +2

    Nice video and presentation! Thank you for doing this. The only movement speed that I think you missed is the Omega co-axial at 7 beats per second/25,200 bph, but I cannot see a difference with the naked eye between it and my 8 bps/ 28,800 bph movement pieces. I am sure there's a difference when it is slowed down.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +1

      +john doe thanks for the kind words.
      if I had one at hand ought have recorded it, but it would have been hard to put it in balance on screen with the others

  • @sleeplessengineer1450
    @sleeplessengineer1450 Před 3 lety

    The Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic is mechanical silicon oscillator that's super high beat just like the Zenith defy lab/Zenith inventor, but its actually affordable.

  • @MrTchou
    @MrTchou Před 3 lety

    Those beat rate numbers remind me of the old modems bit rates in the beginning of the home internet access.

  • @benjaminbreu
    @benjaminbreu Před 4 lety

    That is some nice editing there. Loved the part where you presented the different speeds one after another and the second hand continued to count from the last position of the previous watch!

  • @karthikrudrashiva8645
    @karthikrudrashiva8645 Před 5 lety +2

    Seiko Is the King of all !!! with no disrespect to swiss brands...

  • @JPTRAN
    @JPTRAN Před 2 lety

    Hello, the Miyota 6S21 chronograph movement has a central chronograph second hand 4 bps

  • @chambers792
    @chambers792 Před 3 lety

    Bravo! This video is awesome! 🔥

  • @CarlosAguila
    @CarlosAguila Před rokem +1

    The Bulova Lunar Pilot and the Bulova Precisionist both run on the 262.144 Khz. You have the preciosionist listed as a lower KhZ movmenet which would mean less beats.

  • @badkid73
    @badkid73 Před 7 lety

    The other option for a smooth sweeping hand is the Seiko Spring Drive. :) Thanks for mentioning it.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      +badkid73 yup it's the smoothest, however utmost unfortunately out of my reach currently

  • @ahxiao8
    @ahxiao8 Před 6 lety +23

    Spring drive ? Think you can add another comparison with the zenith defy lab!

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety +1

      +ahxiao8 the Zenith is stil only a prototype so a chance of me getting one for a video is zero to none 😃
      If with some incredible luck I ever get my hands on one, I would definitely want to do a slow motion macro shot of it's action 😊

    • @eddieguyvh4765
      @eddieguyvh4765 Před 6 lety +1

      And the older bulova accutron, I believe

  • @blkbird
    @blkbird Před 5 lety

    That final shot is gorgeous.

  • @ManSkirtBrew
    @ManSkirtBrew Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderful video. I'm showing my age because all the beat rates made me think of modem baud rates.

  • @MegaZidzid
    @MegaZidzid Před 4 lety +3

    it's funny how quartz oscillates 32768 times each second, yet they traditionally limit that feature to annoying 1 bps.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Před 4 lety

      Because nobody actually *needs* more than one tick per second, and if they do, they buy a stopwatch.

    • @MegaZidzid
      @MegaZidzid Před 4 lety

      @@Alias_Anybody are you aware of your low IQ?

    • @ceferistul05
      @ceferistul05 Před 3 lety +1

      i looked into it and apparently it has to do with battery life. they say the smoother the motion the greater the battery consumption

  • @JKT-ul6kd
    @JKT-ul6kd Před 7 lety

    Nice comparison! In the 1970s tuning fork movements produced by Bulova were not only very accurate, but also had nice sweeping action. Also, back in the 1990s Seiko produced a quartz movement (5s21) with a sweeping seconds hand. The sweeping movement had nothing to do with accuracy, but was rather purely esthetic.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      +JKT1971 thanks, and great info on a sweeping Seiko, I thought Spring Drive was their only sweep hand quartz

    • @TealJosh
      @TealJosh Před 6 lety +1

      And I should also mention that spring drive is not quartz. It's fully mechanical movement, but instead of oselating wheel there's a 'electric break' and the breaking power is syncronized with a quartz crystal to give ultimate accurasy. So in the end of the day, spring drive is a mechanical watch, with a twist ;)

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      +GTpcGaming well the power generation and transfer is all mechanical, but the regulation is done with a quartz crystal making it essentially a quartz movement, but one hell of a quartz movement 😛

  • @fabriziodutto7508
    @fabriziodutto7508 Před 3 lety

    Oops, if I count the number of "ticks" in a minute of the Bulova 262Khz seconds hand, while in "slow motion", it moves 6 times in a second, please count to see i I'm wrong... Also, there are mechanical chronos working at 10hz like the Breguet Classique Chronométrie 7727, but more outstanding result has been achieved by Tag Heuer that, in 2011 presented the first 50Hz mechanical chrono (which is 360,000 bph). One of the best sweeping second hand, BTW can be found on Grand Seiko spring drive movements.

  • @thomashardison1140
    @thomashardison1140 Před 7 lety

    Very cool, thanks taking the time to make this.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      +Thomas Hardison thank you and thanks for watching :)

  • @emisor73
    @emisor73 Před 6 lety

    Beautiful video, It's very cool to see something like this, thanks.

  • @user-zj3tz9dw5j
    @user-zj3tz9dw5j Před 4 lety

    Amazing. Thanks for doing this!

  • @johnrideout7124
    @johnrideout7124 Před 3 lety

    Many years ago I exchanged a gold U.S. dollar coin for a Bulova Accutron watch, but I had to get rid of it as it kept me and the dog awake at night!

  • @iggysfriend4431
    @iggysfriend4431 Před 6 lety

    Excellent video, a nice comparison. It still would have been nice to see a spring drive.

  • @graemeyetts3465
    @graemeyetts3465 Před 2 lety

    An excellent and Informative piece.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 Před 5 lety +1

    There is one between 36000 and 57600...the Seiko 8L88/ND58 and the Citizen Cosmotron have a beat rate of 43200 bph. Both are mechanical, with the Cosmotron being a hybrid movement using a transistorized circuit to provide an impulse to the balance wheel.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the info, never knew those existed 😊👍

    • @wirdy1
      @wirdy1 Před 2 lety

      The Citizen is also known as the IC-12 (for 12 beats per sec).

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Před 2 lety

      @@wirdy1 I should had mentioned the calibre number, which I wasn't sure of at the time, which was 5800.

  • @brunoshow124
    @brunoshow124 Před 2 lety +1

    Comparing a Bulova Accutron or any other tuning fork watch could have been interesting too, although they also have a perfectly smooth second hand that you won't see any individual steps with.

    • @tophorable
      @tophorable Před rokem +1

      I think Bulova Accutron and Bulova Precisionist have similar movements with smoothly sweeping seconds hand. The latter was covered in the video.

    • @brunoshow124
      @brunoshow124 Před rokem

      @@tophorable The Accutron tuning fork movements don't have perceivable steps under motion cameras, they are still very smooth. I tried it one time just to see, I might upload the video if I can find it, I believe I saved it.

    • @tophorable
      @tophorable Před rokem +1

      @@brunoshow124 To be precise, I have Bulova Accutron II. It seem very close to the Precisionist series. However, I don't own the latter one or any watch from the first Accutron series.

    • @brunoshow124
      @brunoshow124 Před rokem

      ​@@tophorable Yea the Accutron 2 uses the precisionist movement. The original Accutrons had the tuning fork movements.

  • @danieldelorme4021
    @danieldelorme4021 Před 5 lety

    Fantastic video!! Thank you for sharing!

  • @neutronalchemist3241
    @neutronalchemist3241 Před 4 lety

    The original Bulova Accutron, not quartz but tuning fork, oscillates at a rate of 360Hz, equivalent to a mechanical rate of 1.296.000 bph.

    • @wirdy1
      @wirdy1 Před 2 lety

      The Accutron 2210 oscillates at 440hz, 1,584,000 bph. I had one, when rested on a table it was quite an annoying sound & it got sold on.

  • @evvignes
    @evvignes Před 5 lety

    My Omega Planet Ocean with the 8500 Coaxial movement beats at 25,200bph.
    Looks very similar to 28,800bph and apparently extends the service intervals.

  • @dynomitedp
    @dynomitedp Před 2 lety

    Great video, thank you!

  • @theor.6856
    @theor.6856 Před 4 lety

    wow i'm absolutely not into watches, but recently i got interest into them and im thinking about buying one, and that's how i got here. I learn really really interesting things in this video thanks that's really cool, but i want to know, what's the price range for the higher bph watches ?
    and do there is completely smooth watches ?

  • @SpeedHunter_9
    @SpeedHunter_9 Před 4 lety

    Speaking of which, what's that piano melody name at the end of the video? It's beautiful.

  • @sadee1245
    @sadee1245 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, good information, right to the point

  • @Mk-uh4jo
    @Mk-uh4jo Před 5 lety

    Super interesting and informative video! Thank you very much! You presented the information very well!

  • @symbolic69
    @symbolic69 Před 2 lety

    Great presentation!

  • @the_9ent
    @the_9ent Před 4 lety +1

    57k is insane! It’s butter smooth 😍

  • @jeffhowland867
    @jeffhowland867 Před 4 lety

    Those sword hands look very nice on the snk.

  • @Proclifo
    @Proclifo Před 2 lety

    I must be the only one that likes one beat per second. Makes it easier to count seconds. I like watches that are practical. It's the only thing I find off-putting about mechanical watches.

  • @bananaassasin7514
    @bananaassasin7514 Před 3 lety

    The Seiko spring drive is really good

  • @andydeciccio
    @andydeciccio Před 4 lety

    The first watch, Casio Edifice is a classic quartz, which means it beats at 32,768Hz or 32,768 cycles/second. One cycle is 2 beats. The second hand motion has nothing to do with the time keeping ability. Every quartz watch has a one second sweep. Unless they they purposely give the second hand a smooth sweep.
    The Bulova at 262kHz means 262,000 cycles/second, so he's wrong again.
    So, a watch that is 21,600bph is 3Hz. 28,800bph is 4Hz. Just take the BPH and divide by 7,200 to get the frequency measured in Hz. 28,800bph divided by 60 minutes/hour divided by 60 seconds/minute divided by 2 beats/second.

  • @electrostatic1
    @electrostatic1 Před 3 lety

    Roger Smith actually swears by 18000, and builds his single wheel co-axials with that. He claims that once you get away from pallet friction the movements become highly accurate without the need for higher beat rates, and service intervals can be upped to 7+ years. I don't think the sweep looks as nice at 5, though.

  • @suhailsirnaik4063
    @suhailsirnaik4063 Před 6 lety

    This is the video I was looking out for but couldn’t find it until now!
    Thanks very much! Much appreciated!

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz Před 6 lety

    great video dude thank you

  • @hithabob
    @hithabob Před 6 lety

    Excellent video. Thanks.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      I'm glad you liked it 😊
      I'll be making a giveaway of a GShock watch when I reach 10.000 subs, which should be in about 2-3 weeks so make sure to subscribe and follow the videos to see how to participate 👍

  • @TylerBrownofNewEngland
    @TylerBrownofNewEngland Před 7 lety +4

    Fantastic. Was looking for precisely something like this.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 7 lety

      Tyler Brown I'm glad you liked it :)

  • @mrbriceno3949
    @mrbriceno3949 Před 5 lety +1

    Theyre all pretty cool! I got the seiko 5!

    • @davidcoleman2463
      @davidcoleman2463 Před 5 lety

      I have a Sieko 5 and like it but I miss hand winding . All my other automatics have that .

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 4 lety

    Fascinating video! Thanks!

  • @publiusvelocitor4668
    @publiusvelocitor4668 Před 6 lety

    The spring drive has an electromagnetic brake, which smooths out the second hand, but its mechanical component must still have a cycle which can be counted in bph.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      Nope, you got it wrong, it has the brake as you say it, but it has no bph as it has no beats, it just spins in one direction with the brake making sure it spins at a constant speed

    • @publiusvelocitor4668
      @publiusvelocitor4668 Před 6 lety

      I see you are right. Thank you!

  • @TheRealBrook1968
    @TheRealBrook1968 Před 3 měsíci

    All good watches. I collect movements over dials. I have the highs and lows in this video but am missing the the movement in the Doxa. By the way "doxa" means prayer in Greek.
    PS Where would the Accutron 2020 fall in this group?

  • @shadowstorm545
    @shadowstorm545 Před 5 lety +1

    So basically Seiko makes it all
    From 7s26 to spring drive and quartz

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 5 lety +2

      Yes and then some 😁. They are a true horological giant

  • @promiscuousalgae
    @promiscuousalgae Před 6 lety

    I have a precisionist, the sweeping hand is cool but the one I own is kinda boring so I don't wear it too much

  • @heisenberg470
    @heisenberg470 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice video mate, I subscribed 👍

  • @fin_jan
    @fin_jan Před 6 lety

    Super summary!
    I would love to see the spring drive in slo-mo.

    • @WatchGeek
      @WatchGeek  Před 6 lety

      +Fin Jan thanks and so would I... maybe one day 😊

  • @dns711
    @dns711 Před 2 lety

    It's a shame that the hand on the running seconds dial of the Bulova Lunar Pilot ticks twice a second, unlike the chronograph hand which ticks 8 times a second. I usually leave the chronograph running when I wear my 50th Anniversary Lunar Pilot.