Hey man, this was great! Thanks for the shoutout! I like warlocks, certainly one of the higher ups on my list of classes I would play, specifically Hexblade ones from DND, dark magic and a sword in hand. Also think its cool to see the crossovers in classes even with different theoretical approaches/explanations.
@@CognitivePersonality sounds like you nailed it with the INTJ from the comments. I've never been big on DND but when I was addicted to WoW a Warlock was the main class I played. I always liked the complexity of the class along with the flexibility that the minions gave me. I could be introverted and solo in a group based game. :)
I really appreciate that you analysed the types through more functions than just the top 2, the good music, and holistic and caring way you did it. (Words by a cleric)
It's amazing how you put any personality in a trascendent path, giving all of them the respect, deepness and admiration they deserve, through epicness, an element that may appear vacuous, but that stands for quite the opposite.
Thank you so much Miguel - honestly, I wouldn't have been comfortable painting any of the type's as in any way less epic than the other. Plus, a balanced RPG will allow for maximal effectiveness across all classes!
I'm a fantasy writer, and since I've discovered the amazing world of cognitive functions I've been trying to fit my characters in some of the personalities. It's almost scary how well most of them fit your class choices for each personality. '^^ When they don't fit the class, they end up playing a similar role in the story, carrying that class's iconic code, motivation and values, even when performing a completely different job.
That is fascinating! It's great to hear so many people are blending cognitive personality with creative writing - awesome to hear the contents of this video lined up :)
This is great! Not only does it explain personality types well but it explains fantasy classes better than videos I've seen that are specific to rpg games. I'm going to show this to players who are trying to choose a class for their character, perhaps that will be easiest for them to identify with based on the player's own personality.
I always thought INFP is a Druid, but after intense research, I realized INFP are more of rogue type. I find it weird how they meditate and u were thinking about deep connection to self and being a dreamer. To me I think they’re more of deep connection to the world. Trying to find the meaning of life and what purpose. After looking at some most famous INFP from tv shows, movies, books and video games. I noticed that they r being stealthy and trying to avoid conflict, but at the same time helping others when necessary or when the timing is right. I’d give u some examples but don’t want to make this long.
@@CognitivePersonality Knocked it out of the park my friend. I'm bard too. Makes total sense. Plus ENFPs are usually adaptable and are able to speak anybodies language. To influence/inspire them. And music is the universal language. Plus every party needs music, every party needs a bard and every true party IRL needs to have an ENFP to keep it alive and vibrant. Good stuff
@@CognitivePersonality One last interesting thing I thought of about ENFPs and Bards. Bards are usually socially acceptable and wanted in almost any situation. Around friends and foes. And if this were a true RPG with factions. ENFPs may be the only ones capable of crossing into enemy territory, without stealth, and able to sit down and amuse, entertain and strike some kind of diplomacy or treaty with an opposing faction and inspire them to think another way. As we are super friendly and socially adaptable. We definitely have what it takes to cross enemy lines and bard our message to their hearts. And that's true IRL aswell. Ultimate diplomats. Where ENFJs are on the front line holding the group together. ENFPs and ENTPs are capable of crossing enemy lines flying solo. Just some thoughts because this relates to real life aswell. And it's certainly true of me. In a high danger situation or a situation where my values are not welcome. Other people will say, "dont do it!" But I know exactly how to get in there and make good with everyone so I dont worry about it once. Instant perception, social adaptablity and understanding what people would like to hear and feel. All without ever having met them yet in my life. Like a 6th sense. Become a chameleon without altering any of my core values. I could convince you that I have the same personality as you for a short while just to make an Avenue into your internal personal space. Haha
this is incredibly insightful)) yes, the general versions of basically everything, but the explanations and connections are very facinating! i really like all of your ideas about the assined classes. the guitar on the background is just lots of cherries on top of a juicy theory-for-fun cake. thank you!
Beautifully done! Love your idiosyncratic insights into the types. My colleagues and I were talking about stereotypes today and we decided that in many ways we are indeed stereotypes of our type 😁 Anyway as an INFP I would never have chosen monk as it doesn’t feel fancy enough, but then when I think about it I kinda do live like a monk! Thanks once again for your great work 🤘
Thank you so much! Hah, some people fit the stereotype; some people don't fit the stereotype; some people make themselves fit the stereotype :D Haha, the monk focuses all the fancy internally. Cheers for the comment (and apologies for the late response - it's been busy over here!).
Great video and a fun subject. I’m an INFP-T and was eagerly waiting to see what class I would be. What you said about the monk and their martial pursuits reminded me of myself when I was younger: I didn’t take karate lessons to fight I did them because I enjoyed the drill work and the kata, to strive for a better self both physically and mentally. I also took the moral alignment quiz and I am Lawful Neutral. So that would make me a Lawful Neutral Monk.
@@CognitivePersonality ok what about rogue or sorcerer? And if we r talking about INFP being individualistic, then monk is not. Monk is also about balance and collective. Imo
@@umbrashadowmoon5685 Monk achieves collectivism through individuality, just like an Fi dominant :) Rogue and Sorcerer are totally different ballgames, and addressed in the video!
At first I liked AsuraPsych explanation more but I also love your explanation! When I play RPG games I always choose the mage class or wizard class mostly cause I think it’s the most fitting for me, and the fact that I always seen myself in an RPG world as the kind of character who is focused on seeking knowledge learning magic and understanding how the world works if this makes sense? But the thing is I don’t particularly have an agenda I just love learning and experimenting for the sake of it and to increase my understanding, but I really loved your explanation for the alchemist class it might actually fit me more than a wizard does 😂 because from my understanding of myself even if I was a wizard I wouldn’t necessarily like to be limited to a specific school of magic I’d love learning about all of them and have high understanding about how all types of magic work, so alchemist makes sense it does seem more fitting because alchemy or chemistry is extremely flexible I can be a DPS or a support which exactly mirrors the type of player I am cause I can’t choose between dps and support 😂 really loved your explanation!
I had a sense you might choose ENFP for the bards. They also are the tellers of epic stories that in them you may find your own meaning and come to a deeper understanding of own experience. I noticed as well your holistic vision arising in this. You did not state it directly but the theme was "Show me your bestest-ness " That is now a really word.
As an INTP, I feel that your assessment was indeed accurate, although I would've gone with the broader Artificer class. Us INTP's stereotypically like to go a jack-of-all-trades route when applying our logic, therfore would try to cover every branch of magical science.
Also, INFPs/Monks start out weak, but if they grow to full power, are incredibly adaptable, skilled, and effective. We just need some extra experience and time to meditate before we're up to snuff.
INTPs often get characterized as wizards, but I feel like magic users have an agenda, and INTPs like to stay detached from the game. We aren't trying to wield power. I see myself as a woods witch. I'm off in my little hidey hole, and sometimes people come seeking truth, though they rarely like what they hear. Either way, the woods witch is just a vessel, no agenda, an observer who would just as well be left alone.
In my case, as an ISFJ, I am always between a Paladin (upholding justice and supporting family, friends and society as a whole), a Cleric (on its connection with what is right and the desire to help others and smite evil) and a Druid (as it values stability and harmony of all componentes in life about all, independent yet dependent on the state of things around me).
I have played a lot of rpgs over the years and tend to choose the cleric because I get a lot of satisfaction from helping npcs and other pcs as well as from being the conduit of my deity's power. I also like the wizard class for its interesting powerful spells and I identify with its limitations of having to retreat to solitude in order to rest up and study up enough to be able to face the next day's challenges. Like you said, our individual personality fits a range of types more than it does one specific type.
I don't know what an eldritch knight is, but I do know that your description of ENFJ's determination really resonated with me. I rarely hear folks discuss ENFJ's fortitude and bias for action, which I've always found strange. It's the courage of our convictions that stirs us to action in much the same way that our empathy does.
Admittedly as a divergent ENFJ my Se has fallen somewhat by the waste side but in saying that I've built up, in actions absence a "vast store house of knowledge" and even utilised by NiTi a bit more convergently, so I know when I do get more in touch with my Fe-Se I have a solid base to act upon. I guess all subtypes have their strengths & weaknesses. If you don't mind me asking, what subtype are you? It's nice to see another ENFJ on here 😊
@@Tified967 Y'know, I'm not super familiar with subtypes, but I've done some cursory reading over the past several minutes, and based on what I've been able to glean, I'd classify myself as an Eg-Nu-Fw-Jm. I really hope that I picked up what you put down!
It's so hipster for an INTP to be an alchemist...lol. I do feel the need to be heroic just as well as servicing my own self gratuitous nature. If i ever get my shit together and synthesize a room temperature superconductor, I promise you the world will have its Iron Man, or some shadowy version of one.
Hi, first of all, I loved your Skyrim take, subtil and comforting, so thank you (I am my self a guitarist too). I am just beguining my discovery journey as an INFJ and I was so happy when you said that Wizard is our class as INFJ"s, I always play as a mage in Skyrim, (and in others games too ) so everything makes sense after all lol, even if I know that you did this video for fun, somewhat it helped me understand myself a little more...sorry for my bad english I am french....I wish I could tell you with my own words how your videos are helping me. Hugs from France.
I absolutely agree with this, i'm a ENFJ and my play style is the one of a fighter who uses magic to complement his weakness like shooting lightning when someone's is out of range.
I really like your Video. Do you plan to make one on Enneagram and maybe for the combination of both. If you read this I would like what you think an ESTP type 9 would be or how would he fight. Ty
ISTJ here... I play A LOT of Clerics, but I play them more like a Wisdom based Paladin than a carring priest. I have no idea what all that extraverted-whatever and intro erted- otherstuff means, but Well done.
Amazing work, Harry! I was wondering if you could make a video on the concept of making/using Alter Egos based upon the 16 cognitive types. For example, an ENFP channeling the cognitive traits and attitudes of an ENTJ. Thank you!
Wow what a great idea! Just to clarify, are you speaking about alter egos in a loose identity-based sense or consulting an existing MBTI theorists employment of the term?
Cognitive Personality Theory Thank you! I was not aware there was an existing MBTI theory pertaining to alter egos. I think it would be necessary to have “best of both worlds”, examining both the withstanding MBTI understanding of alter egos, as well as taking into consideration how it would practically play out. Covering both foundations would synthesize a framework that essentially functions as a “how to” guide for using the MBTI to successfully craft and use alter egos whose cognitive functions are radically different from your own. I think overall, the goal is to become deft at summoning/mastering certain cognitive functions at will for your purposes. Hoping that made sense. 🙂
Cognitive Personality Theory Actually, according to Jungian Analytical Psychology, there are 4 sides of the mind, each side containing 4 cognitive functions and the corresponding archetype (Hero, Parent, Child, Inferior etc.). Therefore we do have access to all the cognitive functions, except that they have a different archetype and are in a different side of the mind. For example, Ti Hero functions differently from Ti Nemesis. However, I wonder if we were to "reframe" the archetype of a cognitive function, then maybe we can control how it manifests and call upon at will, like with an alter ego. If thinking about it this way, We'd just be channeling certain cognitive functions at a different capacity that we're used to, rather than trying to adopt a function that we don't have at all.
@@nyx7829 Hi! CPT doesn't use a Four Sides model and it's important to bear in mind that is just one theory - it does not speak for all Jungian Typology, for example. Just had to clarify that :D CPT also doesn't ascribe specific mythological roles to functions, heh. But I think I understand you better now! I will definitely put in some effort into creating a CPT adaptation - I have already paved a part of the way through the coining of 'social archetypes' (e.g. favouring one function position over another) so I may extend that theory to encompass alter-ego :)
Cognitive Personality Theory Hiya Harry! Thank you for the CPT clarification and for your efforts! I look forward to watching and implementing your unique and enlightening content! 🌟
I've watched a few videos similar to these and I keep coming up with different results. I'm also running in to the issue that I'm almost exactly 50/50 INTP and INFP. I'm mixed between wizard, warlock, sorcerer, monk, and alchemist.
My wife is ISFJ, and I've seen the accuracy of your descriptions exhibited even more during this global quarantine. I don't usually think of the ISFJ as plethoric (except when they're engaged in piecing together their "detective work"), but I have seen the wide-lens intuition and feeling being more conscious, and expressed, than usual. ^_^
The quarantine will definitely bring out more of that Ne gaze, but I do often find the 'social gaze' (which is what I refer to in the video) is typically far more plethoric in the ISFJ than the INFJ (who by contrast has a more plethoric 'Te gaze') :) Cheers my friend.
@@CognitivePersonality , I'll be honest...the math is the only thing I like about 5e. The system falls apart at higher levels and becomes way too encumbered. I miss the 2e days. I am looking forward to BG3, though. Kind of excited to play a Gith!
My husband describe me as druid but I'll take the ranger too :) The reason I'll choose a ranger in MMORPG games is because It allows me to attack from distance. I can calculate my move, hit and escape then repeat without the attacker getting close in response. Therefore it's a more calculated attack response kinda of thing where dexterity and agility is the main focus. Shadow types also work for that reason
Fistly: Great video! I enjoyed it as much as AsuraPsych one - which translates to - A LOT! It is fun! Secondly: I have a feeling that You hidden some bonus content with soundtrack You've made for this video. Isn't it soundtrack from Gothic 3 when You talk about Extraverted Feeling? Throughout this video I heard this little references to games soundtracks (but can't indentify which) :D Or my brain just got fixated on RPGs I've played throughout my life :D And I think that anyone who is building a Personality Types system that is based on Jungian stuff should make a video like that - It gives very general perspective on how one conceptualizes personality types (and - it's very enjoyable to watch) :D Cheers! :)
Thanks Mateusz! Hah, yes indeed, the soundtrack covers are from my music channel (link's in the description)! You identified Gothic 3 - Vista Point accurately - I have the pleasure of knowing the composer of Gothic 1-3 and for a while we were going to be working on an tune together! I like to mix it up with these more general videos every now and again, for sure :)
@@CognitivePersonality WOW! Thats some great bonus stuff I heard from You right now! Personality Type Theorist that I learn from - know (and has worked with) the music composer that created soundtrack to one of the most important games of my younghood! Wonderfull coincidence! I do like this acoustic background You are adding here! Respects!
I typically play the tank/champion. Didn't feel like it fit with any of the types. I love pulling boss aggro, taking the hits, getting focused healed, all so that the team can damage it from behind.
The reason why you may have not felt the Tank archetype represented here is because DnD doesn’t really have tanking in the traditional mechanical sense.
Haha. This is a fun one! I’ve always played mages or [Shadow] Priest in WoW, though occasionally tried other classes. I played a Rogue in Neverwinter and Mesmer in GW2.
Silly question, but in your opinion, how similar would you say an Eldritch Knight is to Star Wars' Jedi Knight? Based on how you described the EK, I found great resonance/similarity in its description to that of your typical Jedi Knight, and I'm curious if my understanding is somewhat on the right track about this. Your response would really help in clarifying this archetype to me. (Thanks in advance!)
Ah, intriguing question! I see the Jedo as more of a cleric, as casting is faith/connection based - EKs by comparison memorise spells in a less intuitive manner. The combat-casting is similar though!
@@CognitivePersonality I totally get the distinction here. More of an efforted focus (by the EKs) to gain their understandings (via brute learning/memorizing) in contrast to a more immediate/intuitive/spiritual manner in the Jedis. That distinction only clarifies this that much more to me! Thanks so much!
I am an Infj and I choose wizards and mages because I can attack from a distance and heal myself as well. I don't wanna be in the center of the battle and I also wanna be able to heal myself from a distance.
I like the interesting angles you have here, first one that seems to agree with the ISFJ being more Druid-like in nature. I agree with the INFJ choice, even though calling myself a wizard sounds too much like stroking my ego, hah. I need more preparation time and specific conditions than most people around me, so I'm likely not to be as adaptive as others, but I can get some considerable work done when those conditions are met. I believe I am an INFJ, anyhow, might have to take you up on your typing service to get an outside perspective :)
I know it tends to be heavily stereotyped, but I could also see the argument made for INFJ being the Psion type, due to their more abstract contemplative nature. Not saying INFJs can just read minds and see the future, I know that you are aware of how over-mysticized the type is, but that said I could still see it fitting. Psychic type magic, as opposed to spellcasting, makes me think it all forms together more like an overlapping spiderweb, as opposed to singular, disconnected spells. They might both be able to perform similar feats, but it's the model through which it is cast that differentiates it. Psions spend more time forming a baseline to work from, from there creating nebulous free-flowing variations of how they apply that same overarching psychic energy. Alternatively, wizards/traditional mages would be more in the direction of rote memorization and specific, precise study. They study a wide range of possibilities for spells, building off of the old known spellcraft and from there reaching wherever they can to find new ideas, which I think is why INTP is stereotyped as wizard. But that said, it is all a matter of perspective and what we think qualifies as a wizard. Would love to hear your thoughts on this though if you have any!
I know what you mean! Ni-Ti can have an intuitive-logic feel to it so the Psion is an apt choice - I like your comparison of the Psion with the Wizard in regards to holistic vs specific logical styles too. I would say the INTP is in some senses too spontaneous and social, but in terms of experimentation and refinement within a prepared spellbook I do think the INTP is a suitable candidate!
It does. They can be mastermind behind the scenes, ya know the one who plans everything without being ever noticed. Its more like they are suprising others than being surprised themselves. They can hold their own in melee, one shot that pesky wizard from behind or catch their fireball and return it back. They can infiltrate into any organisation or be mastermind of their own organization. There is little what they cannot do
INTJ's 11:14 The Warlock. Tolkien did not prefer the word, 'Warlock' he called us, The WItch Kings. Malbeth the Seer’s Word Said by Aragorn to Legolas and Gimli about the Paths of the Dead, quoting Malbeth the Seer. "Over the land there lies a long shadow, westward reaching wings of darkness. The Tower trembles; to the tombs of kings doom approaches. The Dead awaken; for the hour is come for the oathbreakers: at the Stone of Erech they shall stand again and hear there a horn in the hills ringing. Whose shall the horn be? Who shall call them from the grey twilight, the forgotten people? The heir of him to whom the oath they swore. From the North shall he come, need shall drive him: he shall pass the Door to the Paths of the Dead." This is terrific, Cognitive Personality Theory. Synchronicity. When I was young, there was a television show called 'Bewitched' about a witch who marries a mortal and hilarity ensues. It was must-watch tv for me. I may only have been 8ish but I recognized my archetype and Samantha, the good witch knew how to do things that mortals only imagined. And she and I both liked a bell, a book, and a candle.
For the INTJ I was expecting a rogue or a warlock. The rogue because I'm influenced by World of WarCraft and for the INTJ is great to be "invisible" a lot of the time.
Cognitive Personality Theory certainly I Can. So there are a lot of sub genres to fantasy that sometimes feel a bit vague or like they’re interlaced with each other that it’s hard too differentiate. and I personally would love to hear someone who knows fantasy come up with definitions of all the genres that somehow maybe could seem to correspond with a certain personality type. Idk it could be too wacky and not scientific ofc but you inspired the idea with this topic!:)
I’m INTJ and in studying religion and philosophy I’ve read everything from the Bible to the Quran to the Book of the Dead and have found it amusing how that threatens most people and baffling how anyone could understand these disciplines without examining all the information. Thank you for that.
This is brilliant. Druid, Barbarian, Wizard, Knight. But notice something here? They are all male archtypes. Can you come up with a parallel female list? Or are we all just Witches, lol? Who might be the Lady of the Lake?
Would’ve thought so! Just cuz a certain magic has a certain colour in someone’s (or collective) understandings, that doesn’t mean it’s of harm, honestly, what if the best way to destroy the source of a problem is to use necromancy?
@@CognitivePersonality Fantastic! I deeply enjoyed the music, it was an incredible touch. The video was really good too--even though it was "stereotypes," you put a lot more thought into it than most would. They were less of stereotypes and more like archetypes that the type in question could relate to. Good stuff.
maaaaan... even in fantasy us intps got to be virgin basement dwellers. Why cant we be the big stick wizards or edgy warlocks or even shitty paladins or smth. Nope... just play with your ointments and imaginary friends nerd. And make me a mana pot while ur at it. jk... i loved the video and have no idea how dnd works.
ISFJs? Wise? BAHahahahaha... Also, INTP alchemist. Alchemist isn't a class. At best it is a sub-class of the Artificer, and archetypically should go to the ENTP. INTP should be either the wizard or the sorceror, or possibly even the Druid. While there were a few I kind of agreed with, particularly the monk, ranger and warrior, most of these I didn't really agree with. I've studies basically ever major typology theory/system (somewhat excepting Socionics, which is kind of wonky), and you have a somewhat odd take on your system. You seem to dwell more on tertiary and subordinate functions than on the actual primary and secondary functions.
you need to work on your presentation this was oddly unsettling the pauses were indeed interesting and gives time to take in what you said but then you blurt through the next bit very quickly seeming to rush your sentances. it was still a very interesting concept to see explained though, it just took me a little longer to "get it'.
Hey man, this was great! Thanks for the shoutout! I like warlocks, certainly one of the higher ups on my list of classes I would play, specifically Hexblade ones from DND, dark magic and a sword in hand. Also think its cool to see the crossovers in classes even with different theoretical approaches/explanations.
My pleasure man, I enjoyed your attribute-based approach in your version!
Ah yes, that does scream INTJ!
When are we going to a see an all "MBTI talking head" one shot ;)?
@@CognitivePersonality sounds like you nailed it with the INTJ from the comments. I've never been big on DND but when I was addicted to WoW a Warlock was the main class I played. I always liked the complexity of the class along with the flexibility that the minions gave me. I could be introverted and solo in a group based game. :)
You both have taught me lots 🙋
@@DesertILI same, I missed my Affliction Warlock being able to solo older dungeons for those rare drops.
Nice touch with the acoustic guitar! Very relaxing! Interesting video! Thanks
Cheers :)
I really appreciate that you analysed the types through more functions than just the top 2, the good music, and holistic and caring way you did it. (Words by a cleric)
Thank you so much for this comment!
It's amazing how you put any personality in a trascendent path, giving all of them the respect, deepness and admiration they deserve, through epicness, an element that may appear vacuous, but that stands for quite the opposite.
Thank you so much Miguel - honestly, I wouldn't have been comfortable painting any of the type's as in any way less epic than the other.
Plus, a balanced RPG will allow for maximal effectiveness across all classes!
I'm a fantasy writer, and since I've discovered the amazing world of cognitive functions I've been trying to fit my characters in some of the personalities.
It's almost scary how well most of them fit your class choices for each personality. '^^ When they don't fit the class, they end up playing a similar role in the story, carrying that class's iconic code, motivation and values, even when performing a completely different job.
That is fascinating! It's great to hear so many people are blending cognitive personality with creative writing - awesome to hear the contents of this video lined up :)
This is great! Not only does it explain personality types well but it explains fantasy classes better than videos I've seen that are specific to rpg games. I'm going to show this to players who are trying to choose a class for their character, perhaps that will be easiest for them to identify with based on the player's own personality.
I always thought INFP is a Druid, but after intense research, I realized INFP are more of rogue type. I find it weird how they meditate and u were thinking about deep connection to self and being a dreamer. To me I think they’re more of deep connection to the world. Trying to find the meaning of life and what purpose. After looking at some most famous INFP from tv shows, movies, books and video games. I noticed that they r being stealthy and trying to avoid conflict, but at the same time helping others when necessary or when the timing is right. I’d give u some examples but don’t want to make this long.
I think this still embodies the monk.
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1:58 - ISFJ
4:13 - ISTJ
5:32 - ESTP
7:07 - ESFP
9:21 - INFJ
11:15 - INTJ
12:51 - ENFP
14:22 - ENTP
15:28 - ISTP
16:16 - INTP
17:19 - ENTJ
18:30 - ESTJ
19:22 - ISFP
20:14 - INFP
21:25 - ESFJ
22:13 - ENFJ
Thank you!
@@CognitivePersonality Tbh, I guessed that I'd get the bard, but that didn't stop me from hoping for the rogue, lol
@@alverrann3097 Hah, I'd love to have more of an innate rogue aptitude myself!
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Knocked it out of the park my friend. I'm bard too. Makes total sense. Plus ENFPs are usually adaptable and are able to speak anybodies language. To influence/inspire them. And music is the universal language. Plus every party needs music, every party needs a bard and every true party IRL needs to have an ENFP to keep it alive and vibrant. Good stuff
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One last interesting thing I thought of about ENFPs and Bards.
Bards are usually socially acceptable and wanted in almost any situation. Around friends and foes. And if this were a true RPG with factions. ENFPs may be the only ones capable of crossing into enemy territory, without stealth, and able to sit down and amuse, entertain and strike some kind of diplomacy or treaty with an opposing faction and inspire them to think another way. As we are super friendly and socially adaptable. We definitely have what it takes to cross enemy lines and bard our message to their hearts. And that's true IRL aswell. Ultimate diplomats. Where ENFJs are on the front line holding the group together. ENFPs and ENTPs are capable of crossing enemy lines flying solo.
Just some thoughts because this relates to real life aswell. And it's certainly true of me. In a high danger situation or a situation where my values are not welcome. Other people will say, "dont do it!" But I know exactly how to get in there and make good with everyone so I dont worry about it once. Instant perception, social adaptablity and understanding what people would like to hear and feel. All without ever having met them yet in my life. Like a 6th sense. Become a chameleon without altering any of my core values. I could convince you that I have the same personality as you for a short while just to make an Avenue into your internal personal space. Haha
this is incredibly insightful)) yes, the general versions of basically everything, but the explanations and connections are very facinating! i really like all of your ideas about the assined classes. the guitar on the background is just lots of cherries on top of a juicy theory-for-fun cake. thank you!
Beautifully done! Love your idiosyncratic insights into the types. My colleagues and I were talking about stereotypes today and we decided that in many ways we are indeed stereotypes of our type 😁 Anyway as an INFP I would never have chosen monk as it doesn’t feel fancy enough, but then when I think about it I kinda do live like a monk! Thanks once again for your great work 🤘
Thank you so much!
Hah, some people fit the stereotype; some people don't fit the stereotype; some people make themselves fit the stereotype :D
Haha, the monk focuses all the fancy internally. Cheers for the comment (and apologies for the late response - it's been busy over here!).
Cognitive Personality Theory Cheers!
Great video and a fun subject.
I’m an INFP-T and was eagerly waiting to see what class I would be. What you said about the monk and their martial pursuits reminded me of myself when I was younger: I didn’t take karate lessons to fight I did them because I enjoyed the drill work and the kata, to strive for a better self both physically and mentally. I also took the moral alignment quiz and I am Lawful Neutral. So that would make me a Lawful Neutral Monk.
It took me a while to figure out the class for INFP, but when I decided on Monk it matched perfectly!
@@CognitivePersonality not Druid?
@@umbrashadowmoon5685 Druid's are all about balance, and are collectivistic more than they are individualistic :)
@@CognitivePersonality ok what about rogue or sorcerer? And if we r talking about INFP being individualistic, then monk is not. Monk is also about balance and collective. Imo
@@umbrashadowmoon5685 Monk achieves collectivism through individuality, just like an Fi dominant :)
Rogue and Sorcerer are totally different ballgames, and addressed in the video!
At first I liked AsuraPsych explanation more but I also love your explanation! When I play RPG games I always choose the mage class or wizard class mostly cause I think it’s the most fitting for me, and the fact that I always seen myself in an RPG world as the kind of character who is focused on seeking knowledge learning magic and understanding how the world works if this makes sense? But the thing is I don’t particularly have an agenda I just love learning and experimenting for the sake of it and to increase my understanding, but I really loved your explanation for the alchemist class it might actually fit me more than a wizard does 😂 because from my understanding of myself even if I was a wizard I wouldn’t necessarily like to be limited to a specific school of magic I’d love learning about all of them and have high understanding about how all types of magic work, so alchemist makes sense it does seem more fitting because alchemy or chemistry is extremely flexible I can be a DPS or a support which exactly mirrors the type of player I am cause I can’t choose between dps and support 😂 really loved your explanation!
I had a sense you might choose ENFP for the bards. They also are the tellers of epic stories that in them you may find your own meaning and come to a deeper understanding of own experience.
I noticed as well your holistic vision arising in this. You did not state it directly but the theme was "Show me your bestest-ness " That is now a really word.
Oh yes, CPT is all about the bestest-ness!
ISTP female here. I've always ALWAYS wanted to be a ranger if I was a book or movie character. Shooting arrows 🏹
Haha, nice!!
As an INTP, I feel that your assessment was indeed accurate, although I would've gone with the broader Artificer class. Us INTP's stereotypically like to go a jack-of-all-trades route when applying our logic, therfore would try to cover every branch of magical science.
Ahh, that is a very valid point!
I know not every intp is into math ,but, the calculator job in final fantasy tactics was one of my favorites
Also, INFPs/Monks start out weak, but if they grow to full power, are incredibly adaptable, skilled, and effective. We just need some extra experience and time to meditate before we're up to snuff.
I'm an INFP and I came here looking for a personality for my monk, guess I was closer than I thougt lmao
INTPs often get characterized as wizards, but I feel like magic users have an agenda, and INTPs like to stay detached from the game. We aren't trying to wield power. I see myself as a woods witch. I'm off in my little hidey hole, and sometimes people come seeking truth, though they rarely like what they hear. Either way, the woods witch is just a vessel, no agenda, an observer who would just as well be left alone.
Yes I agree, I think the alchemist matches this well :)
@@CognitivePersonality Perhaps the INFJ is an Oracle?
In my case, as an ISFJ, I am always between a Paladin (upholding justice and supporting family, friends and society as a whole), a Cleric (on its connection with what is right and the desire to help others and smite evil) and a Druid (as it values stability and harmony of all componentes in life about all, independent yet dependent on the state of things around me).
I have played a lot of rpgs over the years and tend to choose the cleric because I get a lot of satisfaction from helping npcs and other pcs as well as from being the conduit of my deity's power. I also like the wizard class for its interesting powerful spells and I identify with its limitations of having to retreat to solitude in order to rest up and study up enough to be able to face the next day's challenges. Like you said, our individual personality fits a range of types more than it does one specific type.
I don't know what an eldritch knight is, but I do know that your description of ENFJ's determination really resonated with me. I rarely hear folks discuss ENFJ's fortitude and bias for action, which I've always found strange. It's the courage of our convictions that stirs us to action in much the same way that our empathy does.
Admittedly as a divergent ENFJ my Se has fallen somewhat by the waste side but in saying that I've built up, in actions absence a "vast store house of knowledge" and even utilised by NiTi a bit more convergently, so I know when I do get more in touch with my Fe-Se I have a solid base to act upon. I guess all subtypes have their strengths & weaknesses. If you don't mind me asking, what subtype are you? It's nice to see another ENFJ on here 😊
@@Tified967 Y'know, I'm not super familiar with subtypes, but I've done some cursory reading over the past several minutes, and based on what I've been able to glean, I'd classify myself as an Eg-Nu-Fw-Jm. I really hope that I picked up what you put down!
ISTP's Ranger class is just on point, literally. Just as the class I picked in an RPG that I quitted
Can we get the guitar song?
It's so hipster for an INTP to be an alchemist...lol. I do feel the need to be heroic just as well as servicing my own self gratuitous nature. If i ever get my shit together and synthesize a room temperature superconductor, I promise you the world will have its Iron Man, or some shadowy version of one.
Hehehe
Hi, first of all, I loved your Skyrim take, subtil and comforting, so thank you (I am my self a guitarist too). I am just beguining my discovery journey as an INFJ and I was so happy when you said that Wizard is our class as INFJ"s, I always play as a mage in Skyrim, (and in others games too ) so everything makes sense after all lol, even if I know that you did this video for fun, somewhat it helped me understand myself a little more...sorry for my bad english I am french....I wish I could tell you with my own words how your videos are helping me. Hugs from France.
Hehe, really cool to hear!
That is truly appreciate - regards from the UK :)
I absolutely agree with this, i'm a ENFJ and my play style is the one of a fighter who uses magic to complement his weakness like shooting lightning when someone's is out of range.
I really like your Video. Do you plan to make one on Enneagram and maybe for the combination of both. If you read this I would like what you think an ESTP type 9 would be or how would he fight. Ty
Fantastic video!! I loved the midieval bard type music
Thank you!!
ISTJ here... I play A LOT of Clerics, but I play them more like a Wisdom based Paladin than a carring priest. I have no idea what all that extraverted-whatever and intro erted- otherstuff means, but Well done.
Thank you!
Lol!
Damn, I love how ISTJs talk.
Amazing work, Harry!
I was wondering if you could make a video on the concept of making/using Alter Egos based upon the 16 cognitive types. For example, an ENFP channeling the cognitive traits and attitudes of an ENTJ.
Thank you!
Wow what a great idea! Just to clarify, are you speaking about alter egos in a loose identity-based sense or consulting an existing MBTI theorists employment of the term?
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Thank you!
I was not aware there was an existing MBTI theory pertaining to alter egos.
I think it would be necessary to have “best of both worlds”, examining both the withstanding MBTI understanding of alter egos, as well as taking into consideration how it would practically play out.
Covering both foundations would synthesize a framework that essentially functions as a “how to” guide for using the MBTI to successfully craft and use alter egos whose cognitive functions are radically different from your own.
I think overall, the goal is to become deft at summoning/mastering certain cognitive functions at will for your purposes.
Hoping that made sense. 🙂
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Actually, according to Jungian Analytical Psychology, there are 4 sides of the mind, each side containing 4 cognitive functions and the corresponding archetype (Hero, Parent, Child, Inferior etc.). Therefore we do have access to all the cognitive functions, except that they have a different archetype and are in a different side of the mind. For example, Ti Hero functions differently from Ti Nemesis.
However, I wonder if we were to "reframe" the archetype of a cognitive function, then maybe we can control how it manifests and call upon at will, like with an alter ego.
If thinking about it this way, We'd just be channeling certain cognitive functions at a different capacity that we're used to, rather than trying to adopt a function that we don't have at all.
@@nyx7829 Hi! CPT doesn't use a Four Sides model and it's important to bear in mind that is just one theory - it does not speak for all Jungian Typology, for example. Just had to clarify that :D CPT also doesn't ascribe specific mythological roles to functions, heh.
But I think I understand you better now! I will definitely put in some effort into creating a CPT adaptation - I have already paved a part of the way through the coining of 'social archetypes' (e.g. favouring one function position over another) so I may extend that theory to encompass alter-ego :)
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Hiya Harry!
Thank you for the CPT clarification and for your efforts!
I look forward to watching and implementing your unique and enlightening content! 🌟
I've watched a few videos similar to these and I keep coming up with different results. I'm also running in to the issue that I'm almost exactly 50/50 INTP and INFP. I'm mixed between wizard, warlock, sorcerer, monk, and alchemist.
For sure archetype-approaches can result in such dilemmas!
My wife is ISFJ, and I've seen the accuracy of your descriptions exhibited even more during this global quarantine. I don't usually think of the ISFJ as plethoric (except when they're engaged in piecing together their "detective work"), but I have seen the wide-lens intuition and feeling being more conscious, and expressed, than usual. ^_^
The quarantine will definitely bring out more of that Ne gaze, but I do often find the 'social gaze' (which is what I refer to in the video) is typically far more plethoric in the ISFJ than the INFJ (who by contrast has a more plethoric 'Te gaze') :)
Cheers my friend.
Lol I'm an INFP and a Martial artist so you got Monk class right for me at least.
You D&D hard, dude.
I've been dying to run since the quarantine, so much so that I created my own home system based off of 5e math. *sigh*
Hah, largely down to all of those CPRGs I played!
Ahaha that's awesome! 3.5 is the farthest I ever got, but BG3 with be a nice introduction to 5e!
@@CognitivePersonality ,
I'll be honest...the math is the only thing I like about 5e. The system falls apart at higher levels and becomes way too encumbered. I miss the 2e days. I am looking forward to BG3, though. Kind of excited to play a Gith!
@@MrRalteria The BG leap from 2e to 5e should be interesting for sure!
My husband describe me as druid but I'll take the ranger too :)
The reason I'll choose a ranger in MMORPG games is because It allows me to attack from distance. I can calculate my move, hit and escape then repeat without the attacker getting close in response. Therefore it's a more calculated attack response kinda of thing where dexterity and agility is the main focus. Shadow types also work for that reason
How do you know how heavy a red hot chili pepper is?
You give it a weigh, give it a weigh, give it a weigh now
Wise words my warlock friend, wise words.
Fistly: Great video! I enjoyed it as much as AsuraPsych one - which translates to - A LOT! It is fun!
Secondly: I have a feeling that You hidden some bonus content with soundtrack You've made for this video. Isn't it soundtrack from Gothic 3 when You talk about Extraverted Feeling? Throughout this video I heard this little references to games soundtracks (but can't indentify which) :D Or my brain just got fixated on RPGs I've played throughout my life :D
And I think that anyone who is building a Personality Types system that is based on Jungian stuff should make a video like that - It gives very general perspective on how one conceptualizes personality types (and - it's very enjoyable to watch) :D
Cheers! :)
Thanks Mateusz!
Hah, yes indeed, the soundtrack covers are from my music channel (link's in the description)! You identified Gothic 3 - Vista Point accurately - I have the pleasure of knowing the composer of Gothic 1-3 and for a while we were going to be working on an tune together!
I like to mix it up with these more general videos every now and again, for sure :)
@@CognitivePersonality WOW! Thats some great bonus stuff I heard from You right now! Personality Type Theorist that I learn from - know (and has worked with) the music composer that created soundtrack to one of the most important games of my younghood! Wonderfull coincidence!
I do like this acoustic background You are adding here! Respects!
I typically play the tank/champion. Didn't feel like it fit with any of the types. I love pulling boss aggro, taking the hits, getting focused healed, all so that the team can damage it from behind.
The reason why you may have not felt the Tank archetype represented here is because DnD doesn’t really have tanking in the traditional mechanical sense.
Wow, that was so good, thank you.
This video is a masterpiece
Ahhh thank you!!
I find myself always playing Charisma classes. My favorite so far was a Bard/Paladin mother whose child was strapped to her back.
I'm actually gonna argue with you that INFJ is, in general, best suited in a Charisma-based class because of how people-oriented we are.
I'm willing to entertain this argument :)
I'm curious what type this guy is. Do any of you know?
ENFJ, Sword mages are my favorite RPG trope every, so I feel so very represented😭💙
Haha. This is a fun one! I’ve always played mages or [Shadow] Priest in WoW, though occasionally tried other classes. I played a Rogue in Neverwinter and Mesmer in GW2.
Wait, how did you know I wanted to be the Ranger class? Damn you're good.
Hehe
Silly question, but in your opinion, how similar would you say an Eldritch Knight is to Star Wars' Jedi Knight? Based on how you described the EK, I found great resonance/similarity in its description to that of your typical Jedi Knight, and I'm curious if my understanding is somewhat on the right track about this. Your response would really help in clarifying this archetype to me. (Thanks in advance!)
Ah, intriguing question! I see the Jedo as more of a cleric, as casting is faith/connection based - EKs by comparison memorise spells in a less intuitive manner. The combat-casting is similar though!
@@CognitivePersonality I totally get the distinction here. More of an efforted focus (by the EKs) to gain their understandings (via brute learning/memorizing) in contrast to a more immediate/intuitive/spiritual manner in the Jedis. That distinction only clarifies this that much more to me! Thanks so much!
I am an Infj and I choose wizards and mages because I can attack from a distance and heal myself as well. I don't wanna be in the center of the battle and I also wanna be able to heal myself from a distance.
Was one of them fairies wearing boots?
I've seen some online articles that type Barbarian as estp,estj,esfp,entj. Anybreason an ENTJ would be typed as one?
>5 minutes into the video
>he's gonna make ENFP Bard isnt it
>looks at the 2 Bards I made
> 13:00
>GDI lol
I'd personally assign sorcerer to the ENTP, but that's just my personal preference and I am an ENTP haha.
Now we need those ilustrated charts
I like the interesting angles you have here, first one that seems to agree with the ISFJ being more Druid-like in nature. I agree with the INFJ choice, even though calling myself a wizard sounds too much like stroking my ego, hah. I need more preparation time and specific conditions than most people around me, so I'm likely not to be as adaptive as others, but I can get some considerable work done when those conditions are met. I believe I am an INFJ, anyhow, might have to take you up on your typing service to get an outside perspective :)
I know it tends to be heavily stereotyped, but I could also see the argument made for INFJ being the Psion type, due to their more abstract contemplative nature. Not saying INFJs can just read minds and see the future, I know that you are aware of how over-mysticized the type is, but that said I could still see it fitting. Psychic type magic, as opposed to spellcasting, makes me think it all forms together more like an overlapping spiderweb, as opposed to singular, disconnected spells. They might both be able to perform similar feats, but it's the model through which it is cast that differentiates it. Psions spend more time forming a baseline to work from, from there creating nebulous free-flowing variations of how they apply that same overarching psychic energy. Alternatively, wizards/traditional mages would be more in the direction of rote memorization and specific, precise study. They study a wide range of possibilities for spells, building off of the old known spellcraft and from there reaching wherever they can to find new ideas, which I think is why INTP is stereotyped as wizard.
But that said, it is all a matter of perspective and what we think qualifies as a wizard. Would love to hear your thoughts on this though if you have any!
I know what you mean! Ni-Ti can have an intuitive-logic feel to it so the Psion is an apt choice - I like your comparison of the Psion with the Wizard in regards to holistic vs specific logical styles too. I would say the INTP is in some senses too spontaneous and social, but in terms of experimentation and refinement within a prepared spellbook I do think the INTP is a suitable candidate!
I like the INFJ as wizard, because they’re so rare personalities, that it makes sense in world that wizards are so rare
Heh, nice!
I’m an ENTP and was so disappointed to get rogue but I can say it certainly does make sense
It does. They can be mastermind behind the scenes, ya know the one who plans everything without being ever noticed. Its more like they are suprising others than being surprised themselves. They can hold their own in melee, one shot that pesky wizard from behind or catch their fireball and return it back. They can infiltrate into any organisation or be mastermind of their own organization. There is little what they cannot do
Turns out I was wrong about myself. =_= I am it seems not an INTJ but an ISTJ.
the monk, thanks for the video it was fun to watch.
Glad you enjoyed!
As an INFJ I honestly think that a Necromancer would fit just as much as a Wizard would.
Maybe.....not 100% sure though.
For sure!!
So I'm either a wizard, a paladin or an Eldritch knight.. but in dnd I just use half-orc cleric to bash everything with my dual hammer..
INTJ's 11:14 The Warlock. Tolkien did not prefer the word, 'Warlock' he called us, The WItch Kings.
Malbeth the Seer’s Word Said by Aragorn to Legolas and Gimli about the Paths of the Dead,
quoting Malbeth the Seer.
"Over the land there lies a long shadow,
westward reaching wings of darkness.
The Tower trembles; to the tombs of kings
doom approaches. The Dead awaken;
for the hour is come for the oathbreakers:
at the Stone of Erech they shall stand again and hear there a horn in the hills ringing.
Whose shall the horn be? Who shall call them
from the grey twilight, the forgotten people?
The heir of him to whom the oath they swore.
From the North shall he come, need shall drive him:
he shall pass the Door to the Paths of the Dead."
This is terrific, Cognitive Personality Theory.
Synchronicity. When I was young, there was a television show called 'Bewitched'
about a witch who marries a mortal and hilarity ensues. It was must-watch tv for me.
I may only have been 8ish but I recognized my archetype and Samantha, the good witch knew
how to do things that mortals only imagined.
And she and I both liked a bell, a book, and a candle.
Ahhh the Tolkien references are always so refreshing - thank you!
Yes, exactly this! Awesome comment :)
For the INTJ I was expecting a rogue or a warlock.
The rogue because I'm influenced by World of WarCraft and for the INTJ is great to be "invisible" a lot of the time.
like your music man❤
HI! Can you do a similar video but for 16 fantasy subgenres?
An intriguing request! Could you elaborate upon what you meant and how 16 personality types fit in (if applicable) to this topic?
Cognitive Personality Theory certainly I Can. So there are a lot of sub genres to fantasy that sometimes feel a bit vague or like they’re interlaced with each other that it’s hard too differentiate. and I personally would love to hear someone who knows fantasy come up with definitions of all the genres that somehow maybe could seem to correspond with a certain personality type. Idk it could be too wacky and not scientific ofc but you inspired the idea with this topic!:)
thoughtsonfantasy.com/2015/12/07/17-common-fantasy-sub-genres/ For example!
Hey, I have a cool video idea. Try typing characters from the street fighter series!
I'm a bard
I love this. I am an ENFP and regularly describe myself as a bard. I've even described myself as a bard on dating profiles 😂
lol yeah I always choose mage or wizard
Nice, me too!
I’m INTJ and in studying religion and philosophy I’ve read everything from the Bible to the Quran to the Book of the Dead and have found it amusing how that threatens most people and baffling how anyone could understand these disciplines without examining all the information. Thank you for that.
I agree! (An entp :))
The guitar should always be there, and louder
Hmmm... I love playing Sorcerers, Warlocks, Clerics and Paladins. So I like playing J classes, even though I am an ENTP. Interesting.
This is brilliant. Druid, Barbarian, Wizard, Knight. But notice something here? They are all male archtypes. Can you come up with a parallel female list? Or are we all just Witches, lol? Who might be the Lady of the Lake?
Ah, do you think so! I used the terms with unisex intentions but I see the warlock-witch dilemma!
So many archtpes, so little time 😉 Greek goddesses for example.
Havnt watched the video yet but im guessing INTJ is necromancer XD.
Close!
Haha Warlock almost had it. loved the part about INTJ being able to gaze into the void but still remain themselves/uncorrected. really resonated.
Would’ve thought so! Just cuz a certain magic has a certain colour in someone’s (or collective) understandings, that doesn’t mean it’s of harm, honestly, what if the best way to destroy the source of a problem is to use necromancy?
Would Rogue be equivalent to Assassin?
Hah, some ENTPs here would go down the Assassin sub-class for sure!
I want to be a melee mage for lols or just a blood mage for the bad reputation
Ahh blood mage, yes!
I love mecromancers and barbarians. INTJ and the exact opposite, ESFP lol. I’m INTJ
I think you are right about the ISFJ!
Thank you!
INTJ switch with ENTJ.
Dude! Please release the music!
Recordings are on my music channel (link in description) but will definitely release separately some day!
@@CognitivePersonality Fantastic! I deeply enjoyed the music, it was an incredible touch. The video was really good too--even though it was "stereotypes," you put a lot more thought into it than most would. They were less of stereotypes and more like archetypes that the type in question could relate to. Good stuff.
hey I wanna be a mage not a alchemist.
ENTP = BARD ;) expertises and arcane secrets and you go for rouge!!!!
Haha never! The ENTP has the Si-Ti specificity to pull off rogue masterfully!
@@CognitivePersonality or do they need or control the crowd to give them the best experience?
I cannot understand what you are saying. :/
Sorry to hear
@@CognitivePersonality It's just the Audio... maybe needs a tweak??
maaaaan... even in fantasy us intps got to be virgin basement dwellers.
Why cant we be the big stick wizards or edgy warlocks or even shitty paladins or smth. Nope... just play with your ointments and imaginary friends nerd. And make me a mana pot while ur at it.
jk... i loved the video and have no idea how dnd works.
Haha :D
ISFJs? Wise? BAHahahahaha...
Also, INTP alchemist. Alchemist isn't a class. At best it is a sub-class of the Artificer, and archetypically should go to the ENTP. INTP should be either the wizard or the sorceror, or possibly even the Druid. While there were a few I kind of agreed with, particularly the monk, ranger and warrior, most of these I didn't really agree with. I've studies basically ever major typology theory/system (somewhat excepting Socionics, which is kind of wonky), and you have a somewhat odd take on your system. You seem to dwell more on tertiary and subordinate functions than on the actual primary and secondary functions.
XD
you need to work on your presentation this was oddly unsettling the pauses were indeed interesting and gives time to take in what you said but then you blurt through the next bit very quickly seeming to rush your sentances. it was still a very interesting concept to see explained though, it just took me a little longer to "get it'.