Black Corporation Deckard's Dream Patches
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- I thought I'd make something since there really isn't enough out there to showcase how good this thing is. I've only had it a week and it's already up there in my favourite synths. The signal path is Deckard's Dream Rev 2 into a Universal Audio Apollo Twin mk2. Nothing has been done to the audio besides normalisation.
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Every sound that comes out of this thing is just magical. Like it's all being broadcast through a portal from 1980.
Ob6 as midi controller for deckards dream lol.
Took the words right outta my mouth...
My boy must be minted. Or very good at carding...
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The hardest flex
I noticed the OB6 right away....lol My M-Audio Oxygen 49 is feeling a little inadequate.
God damn this sounds beautiful. I’m gonna sell my car and buy one of these. That’s a perfectly logical thing to do.
A DD and an OB-6. Damn.
Sounds great, had to sell mine to pay for some other stuff and regretted it since, saving for a new mk2!
Side note: Not sure what the silly comments are about using the OB6 as a controller. Bloke probably uses his OB6 as well, using it also as Midi controller as double duty saves money.
I'm pretty sure they're just joking about how lucky he is to have those two amazing synths.
The patch at 3:37 is my favorite. Brings pure joy to my heart. Would love to hear more demos of this especially going through some outboard fx!
This is the best Deckar'ds Dream video on youtube
man that pure tone goodness is really showing at the patch that starts at 0:49 , it's crazy good
4:20 - beautiful!!
Brother, you command excellent musical vibes, tones, melodies, & atmospheres. Really nice use of the gear. Thank you for the inspiration 🍻🙏🏽💛
Sounds beautiful 😍
Thanks always nice to hear this synth
Such amazing sounds!
Sounds great with your melancholy compositions.
Great synth! Fantastico
beautiful play!
pretty sweet setup ya got there
Vitals! When can we expect another Deckards dream video? I’d absolutely love to hear more patches from you; there aren’t enough on CZcams!
Also, curious on your thoughts of Deckards vs. prophet 10, which one do you like more?
I'm in the process of selling Deckard's at the moment, so I won't be making anymore videos of it, Sorry.
I love my Prophet 10, it's the best synth I've had.
DD almost doesn’t need fx.... gorgeous
Yeah, but with a Dimension C and Big Sky, it really makes it pop. Same with original.
georgeous
really like the 3:15 hissy soft stuff and the last tone, great job!
Makes me wonder wy this was his last video
Hey! Absolutely love this video, I think the sounds you’ve made sound amazing. Any ideas how you got that sound at 0:53? I’m supposed to record a deckard’s dream soon and would love to recreate a similar sound x
Hey mate. I think that one is just Saw tooth, a bit of vibrato and filter fully open
How are you?..what is decharddream doing now?..its still your favorite?
Does that deckard dream seems to be add via post production or i am just paranoid ? Well ok i am...
Sounds sick, tryna figure out how to cop one.... hmmmm to sell the Andromeda or not??
2:08 i got prophet 10 vibez
Do you find that there is much overlap/redundancy with the OB-6? I have an OB-6 myself and the Deckard's Dream is calling to me hard. I'm trying to convince myself that it is not unreasonable to own both ;)
I find they're quite different and I enjoy them for different purposes. I like sequencing the OB6, not so much Deckard's. I much prefer playing Deckard's than OB6 though (not that the OB6 is bad for that).
I ended up selling the OB6 and I still have Deckards. One thing that bothered me a little after getting Deckards was how thin the OB6s Oscillators are. I still love the OB6 and would consider getting the desktop version though.
Thanks. Man, I would have a hard time selling the OB-6 as it's honestly the best synth I've ever owned. It gives me hope that you would still consider getting it again albeit in desktop version. I picked up a Kurzweil Midiboard today and hooked it up to the OB-6. Hard to describe but the expressive touch of the Midiboard adds an extra dimension to the OB-6. It feels like a totally different synth now. I imagine, as others have found, that the Midiboard paired with the Deckard's Dream is indeed a dream combination.
@@bandito3377 No worries. I would really like a Midiboard but they don't really come up where I live unfortunately. If you've got a Midiboard I'd say you kind of have to get Deckard's ;)
Vitals AU nothing thin about the OB6.
@@vitalsau9960 I have an ob6. Nothing thin going on.
Please stop posting this vids. I am getting all horney to build a DD ;) awesome demo and sound. Nothing like a CS 60 or 80 but a great synth. Nice patches and playing as well.
As both an owner of the CS-80 and DD, you would be surprised just how much crossover you get. Especially in MPE mode, you'll find it just as rich and expressive. But you can't beat the feel of the CS-80 keys, there's no MIDI controller I've ever come across that has THAT feel.
@@michaelk3550 any experience with the deckard’s voice eurorack module? Seems like it’s pretty powerful and a bit cheaper than this
love the dd also the ob6 :)
Right around the 4 minute mark is quite nice
Sounds great! Isnt Rev 2 Tabletop?
Bin trying to talk myself out of getting one for a week, this video didn't help.. :)
Granted, it's a great-sounding synth, but as a CS-80 owner, I'm not hearing any great similarities (I know it has gone through masses of processing to him my PC). Polyphonic aftertouch is one of the key characteristics of the CS-80, so a Poly aftertouch controller would be an essential addition to your shopping list if wishing to attempt any form of emulation...
VickersDoorter I absolutely agree that it doesn't sound like a CS-80, which is okay for me because that's not why I chose to buy one. I would love to get a poly aftertouch controller for it when the funds allow, I'll most likely make another video of patches for it when I do.
Steven Sommers Thanks Steve, yeah it's a very diverse instrument. I actually ended up selling my OB-6 after I got Deckard's and I know others have done the same.
Steven Sommers Couldn't agree more. That's very kind Steve, thank you. You must know it so well after building that many!
Niklas Gindler hope you bought it
Thanks for feeling jealous... :(
whats the patch 3 minutes in?
Lovely sounds! How did you make the patch at 1:23 ... is that just the sine waves?
ljs8888 Thanks, yes, that's just sine waves.
Very nice! How do u like those headphones?
Thank's. They are nice headphones. I ended up selling them to my brother and buying some Sennheiser HD800s, which I prefer significantly.
I could fiddle around with that thing for weeks. Do you have a song like the last thing you played?
Nice ... so .... How much for the kit for you then? 😎👍🏼🍻🎵
your music is nice; you should make more vids
Funny, before seeing this video I was actually considering this exact setup. I'm 100% getting the Dekard's Dream mk2, and was strongly considering the OB-6 as the controller and for another voice. How are you liking this setup?
I don't have the OB-6 anymore, I sold it pretty much straight after getting DD. I remember really liking the keybed on the OB but I felt there was an octave missing and I was always left wanting for poly aftertouch.
@@vitalsau9960 Understandable. Have you found a replacement keyboard yet?
@@DanielBeaulieu No, I haven't. I mainly sequence it, I would like a Kurzweil Midiboard
I have a question. Maybe a stupid one, but I'm not a keyboard player so please don't flame me. I love keyboards and listening to them, but have to find time to learn to play first.
What would be a good synth to start with? I'm an all analog guy(cs80 rulz), so I would like to get one that is not too expensive, but not totally crap at the same time. I don't mind newer digital, but one that at least makes a good effort of sounding like good old analogue ones.
I'm a Vangelis/Tangerine Dream fanatic so you get the picture.
DD sounds like a dream btw! Keep it up!
That's okay, it's not a stupid question, it is a difficult one to answer without knowing you personally, but I'll try anyway.
It sounds like you want a polysynth if you're into the cs80, which unfortunately means much more expensive than a mono (generally).
I would recommend getting a midi keyboard and software synthesizers at first, they are not as fun and personal as hardware but they sure make up for it in value and a huge range of sounds. Besides a few hardware synths I got Arturia V collection when I started, I couldn't recommend it more, it even has a cs80 in it. It sounds really great and there are a lot of vintage synths to pick from. Alternatively I'm aware there are a whole bunch of free software synths, I don't use software at all anymore so I can't point you at any more of them but I suppose Google can?
@@vitalsau9960 Thank you for your reply. Yeah, I'm basically more gardware than software guy when it comes to music. It's difficult to explain when even I don't know what I'm talking about at this point. Moogs, DD, Cs80 and old school equipment are what I like. I'll get a midi keyboard first then, see what happens when I learn something. Thanks!
@@juricagalekovic937 In that case try and find a hardware mono synth that you like the sound of and is within what you want to spend that is capable of sending midi data out. This way you get to enjoy a real user interface and instrument and you have the flexibility of software as well. If you don't mind spending the money on something like a Sequential Rev 2, I'd recommend that for a polysynth.
@@vitalsau9960 Thank you! :)
Hi @Jurica Galekovic - check out the Yamaha Reface CS. It is modeled after the CS80. Based on your question it should do everything you want as a starting synth. I own it and the DD and I'm keeping both. Cheers.
Hi There!
When I finish building mine, we will have subset of similar devices - headphones, OB-6 and DD. ;]
Until I finish soldering my unit, can you explain, please, how you did patch from 1:23? There's no expander and no xmod... and I lost ideas.
Cheers!
NormAnIon Hi! That's great, it's a lovely set up. It appears that I didn't save that patch but I'm fairly certain it's just two sine waves at different octaves with a sine lfo to the vca
No control strip like on the cs 60 , 70, 80.
Vitals AU Be honest and tell me what you some of the shortcomings of this synth... I also own an OB-6 and a Prophet 6. In my experience this synth is incapable of sounds like OB-6 preset 504. That sort of fast decay on the envelope that is a staple of a lot of Moroder and Tangerine Dream Sounds.
I remember someone once warning me when I was saving up for a CS-80 that it was a very temperamental and strange synth.
Would you share the opinion that the DD is not a workhorse synth but one that is capable of great cinematic type sounds that other synths are incapable of?
I don't know the preset 504 since I don't own an OB-6 anymore but you can definitely get very snappy envelopes on Deckard's. With every synth there's going to be some thing's you don't like about them. The CS-80 is temperamental but Deckard's isn't. I think it's capable of a lot of different sounds but it does shine where other synths can't go, I would argue in a similar way to the OB-6.
@@vitalsau9960 I agree with nearly all of what you said with the exception of the DD not being temperamental. IMVHO the DD is practically a CS-80 sound engine having played both. Maybe it's just the interface that makes me think that way. What is interesting about your video is I use an OB6 as a midi controller and it only has universal aftertouch, I feel like I'm missing out.
Are you by chance using MPE or a midi keyboard with polyphonic aftertouch now? Off the top of my head the DD has 3 settings 1)Channel Pressure 2)Poly afterT 3)MPE and maybe a 4th I don't remember.
Would love to try a Seaboard or Linnstrument with it. First I want the expander though, gotta have that Ring Mod.
@@vitalsau9960 Also, you should post more content, I love what you've done so far and we own a lot of the same gear.
@@michaelk3550 i haven't had any issues with my DD. Once it warms up it doesn't even go out of tune. I found my OB-6 would fluctuate in tuning more. The Rev 1 DD had a problem with voice cards falling out, but mine is a Rev2.
Unfortunately I don't have an MPE controller, I either want a Kurzweil Midiboard or an Expressive E Osmose.
Thank's for the kind words. I have been intending on making some more video's but I've been focusing on other things. I did just put out a small release on Bandcamp and I post more on Instagram. The links are in the description.
stunning demo. have you tried the xerxes?
Thank's, I haven't unfortunately
@@vitalsau9960 no worries. do you still have the dd? curious what synths you ended up with after a few years. looking to replace a prophet 6 and i keep coming back to this video.
@@lilskullymane4057 Yeah, I still have it. I've got a bit too many to list but I do have a Prophet 10 and a CS40M now.
@@vitalsau9960 nice, glad to hear!
How did you mount/secure the DD?
Wells Oliver It's on top of a few books
ha! looks like you have some clever kind of hinge there. Nice work.
Wells Oliver Haha, that would be pretty cool, thanks
if you had to choose between the 2 what would it be?
Deckards
u did a gd one
Don't forget to save an extra 500$ for a BigSky or BlackHole Reverb lol.
The purpose of this video is that people can hear what the Synthesizer sounds like, reverb would mask that.
Can you break down the differences to your ears between the DD and the OB-6? I just bought a used OB-6 and am curious what your honest comparison is of the 2 synths - just listening to this demo you did of the DD and it sounds remarkable!
Hi Andy, first off thanks for the kind words. My relationship with the OB6 was always a bit love hate since I found that you had to work to find the sweet spots and I found the oscillators a bit thin. Honestly I decided within a week to sell the OB when I got DD. DD is pretty much all sweet spots, I love it. They do sound quite different though and I find myself missing the filter fairly often from the OB, the harmonics are just gorgeous. In the end I think it comes down to wether you like the character of the OB or DD.
I appreciate your breakdown of the 2 synths (and your playing on the demo is absolutely amazing) - I'm getting my OB-6 this week so I'll be able to hear first-hand how thin/thick the oscillators/filter is, but I just discovered that the DD exists a few days ago!!! Of course shortly after purchasing the OB-6 lol, and now I'm feeling iffy because your demo of the DD encompasses a lot of the sounds I'm looking for in a poly. I bought a minimoog model d a few weeks ago and it has become my favorite instrument I've ever played period, and I'm now becoming obsessed with looking for the perfect poly to complement what I believe is the perfect monosynth - I'm not looking for a poly with a huge modulation matrix etc, I'm just looking for THE BEST-sounding poly as far as oscillators + filters + env, just with the raw basics, and the CS-80 is incomparable to my ears... UNTIL i heard your DD demo haha. Anyways, just spitballing a lot of thoughts, and I'm afraid there's no way I could demo a DD in-person so I'll just have to make a gut decision between the OB-6 once I have it in my hands and the DD
@@Meru112 In my opinion the DD is the best sounding modern poly I've heard. At least until I hear the new black corporation synths that are coming out.
They're coming out with a new synth? Are you referring to the Kijimi? Let us in on your intel if you've tried something out that we don't know about! hah
@@Meru112 Yes, the Kijimi and also the Xerxes. I haven't played them no but I'm definitely interested in the Kijimi
"I use the OB-6 as the midi keyboard" what a waste LOL
amazing, are you doing all the sound design yourself? are any of these a preset?
Modern Medicine Thanks! Yeah this is all my sound design.
nice playing but too expensive for what it is imho. Would love to hear a vangelis brass patch through a reverb though
What’s better the OB or the DD? Do I want both ?
I prefer DD, It has much larger sweet spots than the OB. I sold the OB after getting Deckards, which I regret, but not enough to buy it again. They have very different character, so in that way you can justify owning both.
Vitals AU man thanks for you reply I’m looking at getting the DD and OB6 and prophet 6 but I’m really new to synth so wanted to make sure I wast buying duplicates! Cheers man
@@jonathanstubbsguitar5340 You're welcome
sounds a lot like an OB6
Had EXACTLY same thoughts. :]
Not to me and I have an OB6
Agree, it sounds nothing like an OB
nice machine I subscribe...and welcome to neuronaluniverse
Great synth, but 4500 euro?No
Vedynaice how much
Why have you photo shopped a dd on top of an ob-6?
I haven't, DD is on top of some books.
it's nice, but not for nearly 4K
2 of the strongest synths and that's what you came up with?
This is an analog synth that sounds like a VST, in fact I got some VSTs that sound better than this, what a shame.
You must be joking
I don’t disagree. I’ve yet to hear any demos that justify the price and sourcing a controller with poly aftertouch. I get that it wants to do its own thing besides be a CS-80 clone, but I’ll pass.
saucer of milk for table 2... :-)
It's not about VST vs analog - it's about creativity and workflow. I am sure the ME80 (or the arturia one) sounds as good but having all these controls at your fingertips is a world of difference. It still blows my mind that all these sounds are totally analog.
Based on this demo alone I'd agree with you. I suggest listening to the demo tracks on the Black Corporation website though. They display far more skill with patch design. Not to mention, CZcams compression sucks the life out of everything so analog recordings are always at a disadvantage on CZcams. In a studio the difference is obvious.
Analog is a myth. Listen to the Novation Peak. It sounds 100x better than this thing.
sK3LeTvM no
Software alone should be able to do everything an analog synth can do, if the software is good enough. In practice though, I usually find that software and hardware tend to encourage somewhat different choices in sound design, making different things easier or harder. They're not completely interchangeable even if they have identical capabilties, because there's a human involved and the human's relationship with the synth is a big factor in the outcome.
On a different note though, every time I've seen a Deckard's Dream demo, I've found myself thinking about how to implement the exact same patches on a Peak, and wondering if the DD can actually do anything the Peak cannot.
It may be useful to keep the DD in mind while designing sounds on the Peak, or on other synths, in order to get more ideas about how to use the available resources. Similarly, for a long time when Google was hiring Java programmers, they required people to have a lot of Python experience... because they wanted people who would think in Python but implement the ideas in Java. That kind of thing can be useful on synths too, because some synths encourage very specific types of designs or workflows, while other synths are more agnostic or general-purpose... and the ideas embodied in those specific ones can act as a guide on the more general ones.
yeah but it sounds so fake
You are a myth.
Is this the worse comment or the previous one ? Jeez get an ear