Jeffrey Dahmer | The Milwaukee Man-eater| ICMAP | S5 EP11

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    This week, the ICMAP boys explore the grizzly case of Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Komentáře • 144

  • @ICouldMurderAPodcast
    @ICouldMurderAPodcast  Před 2 lety +16

    Which case are you guys expecting for the series 5 finale next week!?

    • @bigkuriboh3814
      @bigkuriboh3814 Před 2 lety +1

      David Berkowitz? Colin Ireland? Amelia Dyer?

    • @bigkuriboh3814
      @bigkuriboh3814 Před 2 lety +4

      Or possibly Paul Bernardo and Karla Hamolka?

    • @bigkuriboh3814
      @bigkuriboh3814 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh and congratulations on nearly 30k subs :)

    • @RandomHeroSpotting
      @RandomHeroSpotting Před 2 lety +2

      Thinking outside the box, I think it could be the Black Dahlia ❤

    • @abbiedack5246
      @abbiedack5246 Před 2 lety +1

      i need bundy but feel like you guys are gonna make us wait til season 6 for that episode😭😭

  • @lpstreetsoldiergc83
    @lpstreetsoldiergc83 Před 2 lety +61

    Nice to see you guys not dressed like a 90's female P.E teacher this week 😂 thoroughly enjoying the content as always, so glad I found your channel last year 👍🏻absolutely top lads and love the banter, you guys always has me in stitches 🤣

  • @jamesg8175
    @jamesg8175 Před 2 lety +10

    Ben's hair game is on point!!

  • @WEHRMUSIC
    @WEHRMUSIC Před 2 lety +7

    Lovely guy, bit of a charmer, might eat your heart, it's Jeffrey Dahmer!

  • @michaelpurvis7324
    @michaelpurvis7324 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm a science teacher with a 6-year-old son. I would probably avoid experimenting with animal remains in his presence just in case, but he can still have KFC.

  • @32zelaw
    @32zelaw Před 2 lety +11

    I'm sure Dahmer and his dad would have been avid fans of My Chemical Romance

  • @RandomHeroSpotting
    @RandomHeroSpotting Před 2 lety +18

    Tom: "I'm not tarnishing everyone that has a sexdoll..." Ben: "Thank you!" What have you called her Ben? 🤣🤣🤣
    Absolutely knocked this out the park, homerun! I was routing for Nielsen but.... this was incredible! 😊 I forgot how extensive and the large list of victims, acts and all the gruesome details of Dahmer! I can fully understand why he is top of the list of a lot of crime fans tier lists! I think the scary part is that he does look so normal. Excellent deep dive guys, honestly in the top for the best episode! I can't wait to see the big case on next week's ❤ thank you again guys! Hope you get well soon Dan ❤
    Incredible question Tom, I genuinely think the acceptance and the ease of availability of sex dolls and toys may have prevented a lot more depraved minds commiting acts. Like you said, Dahmer seeked and craved to lie with someone forever. Like a zombie like figure, something that doesn't leave or reject. I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear many lost that urge to use human victims, due to having a figure there to lie with. Would it have helped Dahmer? Possibly... like would have he held off his disgusting and murderous acts if his grandma, didn't discover the mannequin? 🤔 it's difficult to tell! Would a doll have helped, I think you are on to something Mr Norris! What an excellent thought and question 😊
    Massive love to you all and nearly 30k! Congratulations ❤

  • @gutpunchprod
    @gutpunchprod Před 2 lety +3

    “I had to start eating at home more”. 😂

  • @Laced.Up.Gaming
    @Laced.Up.Gaming Před 2 lety +4

    Just woke up at 3 am and finally watching this.
    The "how many words rhyme with orange" killed me

  • @Bekka_boo13
    @Bekka_boo13 Před 2 lety +5

    I knew what Durham did was bad…but the more I hear about him, I realise how disturbed he was…I’m a bit creeped out & feel a bit sick after this episode…great episode guys as always 💕

  • @AcornElectron
    @AcornElectron Před 2 lety +18

    I’m a sciency viewer (Scientific analyst for local government) and I’ve got kids that were six once….
    I think they’d already got to grips with death by six years old. Different time though. My kids grew up with the internet, video games and mobile phones.

  • @mikorogerson8204
    @mikorogerson8204 Před 2 lety +4

    Non-scientific parent of a 6 year old here 😂
    We collect taxidermy, mainly bones. my son is very interested in our pieces and often asks to look at them and we teach him about the different parts of the skeleton etc.
    For me, it’s no different than taking them to a museum, it’s just in our home and not a big building ☺️

  • @squireller
    @squireller Před 2 lety +3

    The pacitti lookalike is a good call 😆 my love for wrestling and true crime is always brought together by you guys. Great episode as always.

  • @heftyelf
    @heftyelf Před 2 lety +4

    I wouldn't have my six year old playing with bones for a number of reasons, but I don't see just looking and learning about them as any different to taking them to the museum to see dinosaur fossils, whale skeletons and preserved bugs etc 🤷‍♀️

    • @imyselfme59
      @imyselfme59 Před rokem

      Funny you should mention a museum, as that’s where as a young teen he observed a model of a human opened and dissected where he became aroused for the first time. 😬

  • @Valiant.Patriot
    @Valiant.Patriot Před 2 lety +2

    My guess next week is Mr Cruel.. Seems very ICMAP-y. If it's not, you should do that man.. Great work as always lads.

  • @poppymorley9838
    @poppymorley9838 Před 2 lety +4

    I’ll be honest, I’ve been listening to the podcast since season 1 and I still can’t tell which voice is Ben and which is Tom :/ this was a great episode though!!

  • @nicolevarnam2290
    @nicolevarnam2290 Před 2 lety +3

    That look at 23:59 had me laughing my a$$ off🤣🤣🤣 Awesome Video as Always My Dudes!! Thanks So Much for All U 3 do 🤘🖤

  • @zoethompson912
    @zoethompson912 Před 2 lety +7

    Jeffrey Dahmer, Man Harmer 🙄 great episode guys!

  • @Catsandcamera
    @Catsandcamera Před 2 lety +1

    I also pronounce Gein like that, especially because I first heard about Ed Gein from the Mudvayne song Nothing To Gein....wouldn't make sense if it was Nothing To Guyn

  • @Tashcatxoxo
    @Tashcatxoxo Před 2 lety +4

    Amazing ep as usual, can’t wait for next week! Also Ben where is your top from???

  • @bigkuriboh3814
    @bigkuriboh3814 Před 2 lety +5

    Golden shower 😆

  • @kaletalbot8721
    @kaletalbot8721 Před 2 lety +2

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE, TURN IT UP

  • @GhostNappa2k10
    @GhostNappa2k10 Před 2 lety +9

    I've heard of him, but didn't actually know what he did shockingly. Looking forward to watching this, especially now I'm free of COVID. Thank god.
    Edit: after watching this, good fucking god. This is horror movie shit, what the fuck.

  • @Sdea1903
    @Sdea1903 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah, there was the Exorcist 3 and I also read somewhere that he used to rub one out to Return of the Jedi, where Luke Skywalker is being electrocuted by The Emperor.

  • @honeyclark815
    @honeyclark815 Před 2 lety +1

    just wanted to say, thanks for making this podcast!! Its the only true crime podcast i can listen to. I love true crime but all other pods have loud overly dramatic sinister music in the background which i dont like. This pod is so perfect!!!

  • @MsJody25
    @MsJody25 Před 2 lety +5

    another fab episode boys!! and also a very big yes to this haircut Ben 💇🏽

  • @ashleenminaguchi1322
    @ashleenminaguchi1322 Před 2 lety +1

    Finally getting favourite who was captured on my birthday as it happens 🎂
    Great episode as always guys! ❤

  • @TheBigDavid
    @TheBigDavid Před 2 lety +1

    God, the sandwich shop puns! I'm dying 😂😂😂 Great episode guys

  • @803F
    @803F Před 2 lety +1

    Death is everywhere, don't see the point in hiding it from a child. My guinea pig died when I was 5, and we buried it in the garden. I started collecting skeletal remains of animals at 6 years. I was also obsessed with anatomy, and loved live animals. Never hurt or killed anything, and I think I'm not messed up in any other way.

    • @mikorogerson8204
      @mikorogerson8204 Před 2 lety

      This!
      My 6 year old loves our collection 😂

    • @cmae6
      @cmae6 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah I get that, but this obviously did lead to something for him. I mean, he was quite literally taught to dissolve bodies lmao

  • @xrmoff
    @xrmoff Před 2 lety +5

    Not my thing but I've never understood why necrophilia would be illegal. It doesn't make sense to treat a dead body as a person with rights, because they are just an inanimate object once dead - and personally, you can do whatever you like to my body once I'm gone, because I literally will not know anything about it.

    • @80sForever29
      @80sForever29 Před 2 lety

      But other people think differently. I wouldn't want someone having sex with my dead body after I die.

    • @xrmoff
      @xrmoff Před 2 lety +2

      @@80sForever29 it will have zero effect on you if it happens, you cannot know

    • @cmae6
      @cmae6 Před 3 měsíci

      Brother wtf? this is what you call an intrusive thought, plz keep to urself

    • @xrmoff
      @xrmoff Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@cmae6 once again you are somebody shutting down conversations instead of talking about things to help better understand the world

  • @JessKenny
    @JessKenny Před 2 lety +1

    Time to go dig out my Carlisle United jumper now it's in fashion - brilliant ep as per 😁😊

  • @mhairimalcolm3506
    @mhairimalcolm3506 Před 2 lety +3

    I know I say this all the time but best episode yet!! You guys are so talented. I used to work in a high secure ward for the criminally insane and a few of the patients who were sexually “inappropriate” had sex dolls/ sex objects (one was a toy sheep) during their teenage/ early 20s. Although they say that control urge needs to come from a living being that’s why animal abuse is a big indicator.

  • @AcornElectron
    @AcornElectron Před 2 lety +2

    Perfect bank holiday nightmare!
    Keep up the good work fellas and, as always, stay safe!
    I’ll add comments when I get to the bit that needs the comment… probably something about Ben and his little face.

  • @dinaamalia4782
    @dinaamalia4782 Před 2 lety

    40:21 Dude, this is phenomenal fight 💀 🤣

  • @zeusmanlord1602
    @zeusmanlord1602 Před 2 lety +2

    This was really good!!

  • @mikematthews7018
    @mikematthews7018 Před 2 lety +2

    Followed you guys since day one. You're one of the best. You and Deadbug!

  • @JackieMusker
    @JackieMusker Před 2 lety +2

    Great watch as always guys! Ben looking sharp : ) x

  • @georgebarrett8065
    @georgebarrett8065 Před 2 lety +4

    I was wondering if you two would cover this person.

  • @theweberjosh
    @theweberjosh Před 2 lety +3

    Sweet!!

  •  Před 2 lety

    30:25 number one was a classmate named “Figg”… he was a psychopath. in “my friend dahmer” comic book, author derf backderf said that figg was driving over LIVING animals and picking fights with everyone in school…

  • @Purple_Wellies
    @Purple_Wellies Před 2 lety +1

    Digging the new do, Ben!

  • @bigkuriboh3814
    @bigkuriboh3814 Před 2 lety +5

    Can't wait to watch guys :)

  • @Jojo1996-_-
    @Jojo1996-_- Před 2 lety

    I am from milwaukee and still live here, its a great place sometimes, when people arent eating each other!

  • @pirate_duck4985
    @pirate_duck4985 Před 2 lety

    Sorry for the double comment but I'm actually in tears laughing! I F'N called it on Instagram there'd be something amazing in the lookey likeys! ADAM PACCITI!!! Pacciti Club fo-fo-fo-fo-for Lyfe! Next time he's on a Cultaholic Video I'm mentioning this! Too good!! X'D

  • @somekindamatt
    @somekindamatt Před 2 lety

    The intro gets me every time

  • @NBundyElectrical
    @NBundyElectrical Před 2 lety

    Yes lads 🙌

  • @somanychickens384
    @somanychickens384 Před rokem

    The way you guys say “Milwaukee” makes my hometown sound like a cryptid 😂❤ Great episode, as always!

  • @flamehairedkev
    @flamehairedkev Před 2 lety

    "Jeffrey Dahmer! I love that guy" -Wesley Snipes, Demolition Man

  • @beajay582
    @beajay582 Před 2 lety +2

    Another awesome episode guys!

  • @mystifiedmargot1970
    @mystifiedmargot1970 Před 13 dny

    Sorry Ben, I'm not "sciencty" but I have shown one of my sons some bones 🩻 Once I found some dead chicks and brought them home and made a little bed but unfortunately I put them on my wardrobe and forgot about them until the smell drove my mother mad. Obviously they were thrown out and I have felt lonely ever since 😢. Another great video chaps. 😊

  • @sophiejackson9707
    @sophiejackson9707 Před 2 lety

    OMG Dahmer as Pacitti is great. I’m a huge Cultaholic fan

  • @gothicmatter9123
    @gothicmatter9123 Před 2 lety +1

    This was very good 👍🏻 thank you.

  • @kevinwelker5755
    @kevinwelker5755 Před 9 měsíci

    57:20
    Dahmer didn't target black and minorities because of less interest in missing persons cases from the police, thats just what he preferred. He liked black and Hispanic most. Uninterest in missing minority persons cases just happened to be part of how he didn't get caught for so long. He didn't target them intentionally because of that.

  • @skinlesswalnut6259
    @skinlesswalnut6259 Před 2 lety

    Yo man I just bought exorcist 3 on dvd from a charity shop for £1 and put it on eBay as the last one sold for £40! 😁 Sorry little off topic! Lmao

  • @Rand0mHero713
    @Rand0mHero713 Před 2 lety

    Aye my favorite true crime podcast with a shout to my favorite wrestling podcast Cultaholic. Ya love to see it

  • @chris123hobbs
    @chris123hobbs Před 2 lety +1

    Much better without the Dr! His generic psychobable that you hear on every low budget crime doco is not missed

  • @1983veroner
    @1983veroner Před 2 lety

    I think you guys should do a podcast on 'Darlie Routier'

  • @notbird8367
    @notbird8367 Před 2 lety

    Ouch! None scientist parent to a 4 year old... we've looked at bones found out walking (fox) and discussed skeletons etc.
    I'll be keeping a close eye on my mummies boy 🙈🙈🙈

  • @gazshadwell2534
    @gazshadwell2534 Před 2 lety

    Pacitti's going to love that

  • @hotfishfromsharktale
    @hotfishfromsharktale Před 2 lety

    6:04 when I say I screamed.

  • @lynsey4224
    @lynsey4224 Před 2 lety +1

    Downloading ready for work tomorrow. I mean I don't think there's much I don't already know about Dahmer but I'm excited to hear your take on it. This guy is something else.

  • @matthewlyons8973
    @matthewlyons8973 Před 2 lety

    Pacitti was told he looked like Dahmer on this weeks stream too

  • @jamesbraxton6085
    @jamesbraxton6085 Před 2 lety

    Pacittimania is runnin' wild!

  • @johanrevelid2067
    @johanrevelid2067 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice job as always boys! :) I can highly recommend the book , Grilling Dahmer Co written by Detective Pat Kennedy who interrogated Dahmer after his Arrest in 1991.

  • @katy9433
    @katy9433 Před 2 lety +1

    Dahmer...Gacy...Bundy...Manson (Tex watson) Night stalker I'd say it's between these that are the most notorious of lol time

  • @Bekka_boo13
    @Bekka_boo13 Před 2 lety

    When I was 6 I had a rabbit that accident met it’s fate to foxes…he wasn’t replaced 😭 I was told he went to heaven 😩😭

  • @pirate_duck4985
    @pirate_duck4985 Před 2 lety +2

    He did so many vile & depraved things but something he did that I found terrifying was just injecting acid into a young man's brain! This was his plan for the perfect zombie.
    As for the sex doll idea. That's an absolutely baffling question!! It's a seriously good point, it would be built to his "specifications" & he could just lay with it, pose it however he so pleased etc. It may well have done the trick if he'd been able to get one before any of the fascination with the human body, organs etc.

  • @JerichoVR
    @JerichoVR Před 2 lety

    Thought I heard enough.. but then I hear he was in the army? Plus the idea that he's trying to not be a crazy killer but he got the urge to be close.. feels like if it was our time the guy probably would find someone.. but I doubt it..

  • @andershv229
    @andershv229 Před 2 lety +2

    Ed GEEN! 🤬

  • @twelvesmylimit
    @twelvesmylimit Před 2 lety

    36:35 bookmarked to continue.

  • @simonroper4713
    @simonroper4713 Před 2 lety

    Great stuff

  • @lettysharp578
    @lettysharp578 Před 2 lety +2

    Been reading up on Dahmer in preperation for this episode, dude was fucked up

  • @sharonsettle9079
    @sharonsettle9079 Před 2 lety

    I've been interested in serial killers, since earlier 80.

    • @sharonsettle9079
      @sharonsettle9079 Před 2 lety

      I remember watching the court case on Australia tv, I was 15 years old at the time, it scared the shit of me.

  • @cmae6
    @cmae6 Před 3 měsíci

    I’m sure there are other people who don’t feel this way but if I went round to a man’s house and found a sex doll I would be scared and very very turned off/uncomfortable. It just looks like they view women as dolls, mostly to act out bizarre fantasies and to treat like objects, and if it’s because they simply can’t “get sex” anywhere else and they resorted to that id start to wonder what the reason is no one wants to.

  • @welcomecreator7653
    @welcomecreator7653 Před 2 lety

    LOVE YOU

  • @JodieBarbwireHeart
    @JodieBarbwireHeart Před 2 lety

    Hmmm either the menendez brothers, Jack the ripper or Luis Garavito are my guesses

  • @kyle_the_human
    @kyle_the_human Před 2 lety

    Another great episode but have to say I really can't get on with the new format, I've tried since they changed it but I miss them both sitting at the table together, this way is less welcoming, less like a conversion between Tom and Ben and the viewer, I've switched to just listening to the audio now because this way adds nothing to it compared to how they used to film

  • @hotfishfromsharktale
    @hotfishfromsharktale Před 2 lety

    26:05
    Dan: 🫢

  • @Liam-qn2kn
    @Liam-qn2kn Před 2 lety

    I think he looks a bit like Curly watts from coronation street

  • @mummybunny331
    @mummybunny331 Před 2 lety

    My Grandson, probably about 5 att. Was shown a Fox skeleton..in a river bed ,by a nob brained Boyfriend..! Sure enough my Granùdson awoke in the night , haunted by the skeloton...The first nightmare of his life had begun, all prompted by that sinister looking skeleton...Very significant...to a young boy xx

  • @youcallthishell
    @youcallthishell Před 2 lety

    im going to say bundy, i hope i win the can of coke

  • @RobColbourne
    @RobColbourne Před 2 lety

    Adam Pacitti!

  • @iamhocus
    @iamhocus Před 2 lety

    I thought pacciti to aha

  • @Anonymous-rs1ue
    @Anonymous-rs1ue Před 2 lety

    Wanted to drop by and say my family is not sciency except herbology however I had weird interests in animals as a kid. Specifically cats and that got mixed with my interest with death. Even forced my parents to buy me a stuffed cat...it got thrown away sadly. Also a fan of deer antlers and TC. Lets just say, i keep my interests a secret to my conservative family 💀

  • @davidnoonan1292
    @davidnoonan1292 Před 2 lety

    DLT 😂😂

  • @Datasun7
    @Datasun7 Před 2 lety

    Guys think this one might be a big case... not sure where I got that idea from

  • @brianawesome5983
    @brianawesome5983 Před 2 lety

    Jeffrey Dahmer the Roadkill farmer

  • @chickenminute8195
    @chickenminute8195 Před 2 lety

    Skeleton Bones

  • @johnbowden548
    @johnbowden548 Před 2 lety

    is that a Carlisle united top?

    • @ICouldMurderAPodcast
      @ICouldMurderAPodcast  Před 2 lety

      It is indeed

    • @johnbowden548
      @johnbowden548 Před 2 lety

      @@ICouldMurderAPodcast Lol hello Tom and Ben. Surprised to see the local teams sportswear. Keep up the good work.

  • @carlwharmby9424
    @carlwharmby9424 Před 2 lety

    Ben,have you been letting hairdressing students practice on your barnet.🤣🤣🤣

  • @ericafernandez6284
    @ericafernandez6284 Před rokem

    Take me with You Jeffrey ❤️ l 'm all yours

  • @reapthewhirlwind6915
    @reapthewhirlwind6915 Před 2 lety

    Gotta love him gotta love him

  • @leejamesphoto
    @leejamesphoto Před 2 lety

    Jeffrey Dahmer the people harmer

  • @carlwharmby9424
    @carlwharmby9424 Před 2 lety

    Tom looks a bit dahmer like with his specs.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @JLD1960
    @JLD1960 Před 11 měsíci

    i will always love and cherish you my baby ❤❤ my love for you sweetie will never die ❤ i will always beling to you ❤ i miss you ecery day and cant waut to be with you again my cupid. hugs 🤗🤗 and kisses 😘 sent you from your devoted girlfriend ❤❤❤ forever yours my love 💕💕💕 💕💕

  • @thewaroflions
    @thewaroflions Před 2 lety

    too sespific

  • @richardsonsmith2633
    @richardsonsmith2633 Před 2 lety

    why soooo much babbling for ten minutes long?? i wanted to hear about dahmer, not back n forth blah blah blah. im soo dissapointed, im clicking off.

    • @bless_M
      @bless_M Před rokem

      It’s a great podcast just skip the first 7mins or so, until they start talking about the case

    • @rwentfordable
      @rwentfordable Před rokem

      Why not skip ahead?

  • @somebloke87
    @somebloke87 Před 2 lety

    I've always said there's something weird about people who actually enjoy gin...

    • @helenbartoszek243
      @helenbartoszek243 Před 2 lety

      Huh! I like gin and I'm not weird. Queen mother loved gin too

    • @somebloke87
      @somebloke87 Před 2 lety +2

      @@helenbartoszek243 I don't think bringing Liz Snr. into this makes the point you think it does... 😉

    • @helenbartoszek243
      @helenbartoszek243 Před 2 lety

      @@somebloke87 Oh well, maybe your comment went over my head!

  • @sethamtsberg2609
    @sethamtsberg2609 Před rokem

    No, born again does NOT mean be baptized and you have a clean slate.