What is Classical Education, and How it Answers the Education Crisis | Andrew Kern

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • In this interview, John is joined by Classical Education advocate Andrew Kern. They explore the transformative potential of Classical Education, highlighting its respect for humility, heritage, and the importance it places on cultivating wisdom and virtue.
    Kern addresses the challenges posed by modern technology, and the increasing trend of homeschooling, promoting the integration of Christian values with Classical Education principles to create coherent and harmonious learning environments.
    Andrew Kern is founder and president of the CiRCE Institute and co-author of The Lost Tools of Writing and Classical Education: The Movement Sweeping America. As a proponent of “Classical Education”, he has been instrumental in the founding of a number of schools, and has consulted with well over 100 schools.
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:07 The Importance of Humility
    04:13 Evolution of Education
    10:27 Declining Educational Outcomes
    16:55 Defining Classical Education
    30:42 Proportion, Wisdom, and Virtue
    41:03 The Crisis of Power
    50:15 Addressing Anxiety in Schools
    01:03:18 Growth and Impact of Classical Education
    01:23:19 Technology in Education and Homeschooling
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Komentáře • 63

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +10

    Humility is the Foundation stone of all the Virtues

  • @TruthISaNaturalLaw
    @TruthISaNaturalLaw Před 17 dny +12

    Love his quote: "Truth is self-beautifying, it does not need us to add ornamentation".

    • @MrEnniscorthy
      @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny

      John is a firm supporter of Trump. The Prince of LIARS. USA history in a nutshell (1) Washington........I cannot tell a LIE (2) King Trump.CIC...............I cannot tell the TRUTH

  • @PhilosophyofDataScience
    @PhilosophyofDataScience Před 16 dny +16

    There are so few teachers or administrators who could understand what Kern is even saying with regard to how kids are going to fail to creative a cohesive philosophy out of the forced merger of incompatible philosophies that they receive in school.

  • @mjprice-alexander8882
    @mjprice-alexander8882 Před 16 dny +7

    Excellent. We home-educated our four UK kids with fantastic results. We are now bouncing this great discussion on to them to encourage them in their home-educating endeavours.
    BTW: Please pray for the church in the UK in the light of today's extraordinarily dire election results over here.
    "Put not your hope in princes..."

    • @susieare
      @susieare Před 12 dny

      Have a listen to Autumn Kern's (of The Common House) interview with Andrew Kern. She's a home educator who has done so much to open up my mind to classical education (via Charlotte Mason). Perhaps your children will like her very practical breakdowns of the philosophy of education :) from a fellow UK home educator

    • @susieare
      @susieare Před 12 dny

      czcams.com/video/gl7KHoRvxi8/video.htmlsi=Da7lLDpZz5GIm1-n

    • @kcrjmj7613
      @kcrjmj7613 Před 10 dny

      Hope on the PRINCE OF PEACE

  • @becwalker
    @becwalker Před 11 dny +3

    1:26:14 Thank you Andrew 😀 That final comment was the most wonderful thing I’ve heard about those of us called to homeschool.

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +6

    I admire John for the people he gets on.

  • @everywherejoy9019
    @everywherejoy9019 Před 14 dny +3

    When I listen to Andrew Kern my heart aches from such beauty!

  • @Barbara-fs2sp
    @Barbara-fs2sp Před 16 dny +3

    So much wisdom here! I’ve been steeped in Circe Institute for several years in our homeschool, and I have grown as much or more in my faith and appreciation for truth than my children. Thank you Andrew Kern. You’ve been a blessing to my family and my homeschool community.

  • @becwalker
    @becwalker Před 11 dny +2

    1:15:01 One thing to be aware of is that Christian schools in Australia still have to follow the national curriculum. The only way to avoid the national curriculum is to homeschool, but only in some states.

    • @user-nx6bu3lq4h
      @user-nx6bu3lq4h Před 6 dny

      Exactly! The general public has no idea of the impact of the Federal government sticking its nose in primary and secondary education.

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +2

    Andrew Kern is a modern hero

  • @daheikkinen
    @daheikkinen Před 17 dny +6

    Hillsdale College (and Academy) is the model classical school

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +3

    There is a management crisis in Australia. More bureaucracy is not the answer. This left brain cockiness. We need the natural humility of the right brain and admit our inadequacy

  • @timnestor3005
    @timnestor3005 Před 11 dny +3

    Post- Modern:
    Feeling and emotion are more important than fact and truth.

  • @raquelrobaert
    @raquelrobaert Před 13 dny +1

    Such a needed conversation, lot's of food for thought! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @ScorpionSting24
    @ScorpionSting24 Před 16 dny +2

    This speaks to the current crisis I’m experiencing within myself regarding my future career. I’m about to start as a professor of exercise science at a small college and I’m filled with excitement and dread because I want to make a difference but the way I have been taught in this field and the norm is just transmitting information…there’s no self evaluation, philosophical inquiries/debates about the topics, seldom is their application or explanation of why we need to know the information…Additionally, the rising costs of education (even though the information hasn’t changed unless you’re at the cutting edge of research) make it harder for me to feel good about having this job. The students knowledge of the subjects isn’t anymore superior to students who took the same class 20 years ago, yet they’re paying 1000x more and I’m not seeing any of that money in my salary…I want to add those things to my classes (i.e., self-evaluation, debate/inquiry, application, etc.), which is why I’m excited but I’m also worried about the push back and buy in from students and if it will even matter or work, which is why I’m filled with dread.

  • @timothysmith3700
    @timothysmith3700 Před 16 dny +3

    I think the book Andrew Kern referred to is The Territories of Science and Religion by Peter Harrison (pub. 2017)

  • @KevinSolway
    @KevinSolway Před 15 dny +6

    When teachers say that are cultivating "virtue" in their students, they have a completely different meaning for the word. They are saying that they are conforming to the latest fashions.

  • @patrickcrowther9195
    @patrickcrowther9195 Před 4 dny +1

    Very interesting discussion. I think the idea that religion and science are totally incompatible is bunkum.

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +3

    John does not understand what Andrew is saying. John says Education is to equip students for the workplace Andrew says precisely the opposite. It is NOT to just equip for the workplace. It is FOR students so that they can see their GLORY in Christ

  • @gilhardwick2269
    @gilhardwick2269 Před 16 dny +1

    Yes, we do see their glory, some of us do; enough of us do. Aside from raising our children to be outstanding young achievers, net contributors to the common good, but spending a great deal of our professional lives designing and implementing extension and enrichment programs, school excursions, advancing school years into higher grades, we slowly make good steady progress. Here in Western Australia, under the Barnett/Constable reforms we now have state-owned schools run independently of centralised state bureaucracy, with Year 7 now part of secondary school. Don't lose hope, it's happening. As those children we raised take their place in the world, aware of how high parenting, education, training, mentoring standards can be, refusing to regress, watch and see even further progress being made.

  • @skyhigh6
    @skyhigh6 Před 14 dny +2

    The truth? "You can't handle the truth" From "A Few Good Men." Wisdom is hard learned and takes a lifetime to master. By me.

  • @gwynnwhite4500
    @gwynnwhite4500 Před 15 dny +1

    Brilliant. Thank you.

  • @mohamedali2858
    @mohamedali2858 Před 17 dny +2

    There are universal divine laws that include human beings in all parts of the earth. They are similar to them and there is no dispute over them. This is evidence that these laws are implanted in people automatically and are in harmony with all people in every place. For example, divine law, worship, security and safety, love of goodness and hatred of evil. And morals……..and this means that the origin of religion is the same and the values are the same, and the difference in them is nothing but new corruption through ignorance and intentionality.

  • @Bezmenov93
    @Bezmenov93 Před 10 dny +1

    What a rich interview, a lot to reflect about.

  • @psychnstatstutor
    @psychnstatstutor Před 16 dny

    Wonderful~ have earmarked a gazillion (non-proportionate ~:-) online workshops to budget for, meanwhile...the audio library and ytube

  • @emilymiller1792
    @emilymiller1792 Před 16 dny +2

    We should not eliminate words. We should aim to be precise with their definitions and their use.
    On a related note: to those who do the following, please stop shoe-horning biological/natural world terms into business-speak. Ecosystems are in the natural world; this word, and other such words should not be taken for use in the techno/business/economic/governmtalish paradigm (intersystem is the better word). It's turning language into Frankenstein's monster.

    • @TarkynSharples2
      @TarkynSharples2 Před 11 dny +1

      Correct definitions of words, use of precise language, and making sure that interlocutors are of the same understanding, are foundational in anything that involves communication.
      Sadly, it seems as though most people enjoy corruption of language, excusing it by proclaiming that, "The evolution of language is good!"

  • @kwave5426
    @kwave5426 Před 15 dny

    Brilliant conversation

  • @antonp6917
    @antonp6917 Před 17 dny +4

    1:00:00 😮
    Teachers are professionally and physically threatened.

  • @danielrobertson8774
    @danielrobertson8774 Před 15 dny

    I'm not sure if this piece applies to myself, family or friends.
    To put it bluntly, I grew up in the 1980's / 90's in the Northern British rust belt. Why bother trying to commit suicide when there's so much trying to kill you.
    As a Christian I do respect your beliefs however and recognise that it's an important subject to be considered.
    I'm a Scottish Quaker. Here our problem is a lack of recognition of personal responsibility towards avoiding drugs and other mental health issues. Unfortunately fueled by a cheap Devolved SNP blame government who won't invest in rehabilitation.
    So finding out about the soul and alternatives to self destruction is important. Keep up the good work.

  • @kylekemper4217
    @kylekemper4217 Před dnem

    I like that quote. His head came out a boomer and his feet came out xers. My head came out a millennial and my feet came out zoomers 🤣.

  • @kcrjmj7613
    @kcrjmj7613 Před 10 dny +1

    If you remove God, Good News, Family values, prayers from homes and institutions,
    the devil enters in 7 folds and destroy your peace and prosperity.
    .Bring the Prince of Peace into our Education and families.

  • @courtneytautges4997
    @courtneytautges4997 Před 17 dny

    YAY

  • @spicole2937
    @spicole2937 Před 13 dny +2

    U dont have male teachers

  • @spicole2937
    @spicole2937 Před 13 dny

    1953 nesco apnet united nations

  • @user-nx6bu3lq4h
    @user-nx6bu3lq4h Před 17 dny

    It is not clear to me what John Anderson was hoping his Australian audience members would get from this.

    • @stuartwilliams5212
      @stuartwilliams5212 Před 17 dny +2

      They need to start this discussion in earnest. Without people like John and Tony Abbott promoting, this message will never be heard.

    • @andrewkern8778
      @andrewkern8778 Před 16 dny +4

      That’s a fair question. If I may offer a response, I agree with the earlier comment. Classical education is not an American thing; it is a human thing. If Australians will embrace it they will be nourished by it just as we have in the States. If that is too general, I apologize but it’s hard to be more precise in a CZcams comment thread. As I said, you are asking a fair question that deserves a well reasoned answer. I hope you get one that satisfies you.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 Před 16 dny +5

      I'm only a little way in but I have no complaints about my gkids little rural Roman Catholic school in Australia. It believes in character building and patriotism, Christianity, and the curriculum is much as mine was. Maths, classical childrens literature, geography and science and no woke nonsense.

    • @stevendownes7508
      @stevendownes7508 Před 16 dny +3

      He said he has 300,000 subscribers in the USA, which is half of his total. So even if it doesn't seem relevant to some Australians, its relevant to his audience

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny +1

    John says .........when gets off the HIGH HORSE he is true. Yes, but John was on his high horse all through the VOICE referendum

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy Před 15 dny

    John says PURSUE HUMILTY. How wrong that is. It is like saying PURSUE Happiness. The fact is that the more you pursue HAPPINESSS or HUMILITY, the further they are away.

  • @incrediblystupid8483
    @incrediblystupid8483 Před 16 dny +1

    Your there to educate your children not the other way round. This helps us understand why the world is wrecked. You love 'country' (politically correct), not THE country?