I really liked your comments about doing things. It does not matter if you need them or not. Even if you don't need them, having a good time doing it is what really counts. Like your shop.
Great video, wonderful see you're getting such quality equipment to help enjoy retirement and begin a new chapter of your life. Yep, I'm recently retired and right there with ya!
Hello Mr. NewMachinist, I enjoyed your shop tour VERY much. I think you are spot on, when it comes to buying whatever you want. Enjoy your retirement, take care of your health and take it easy. We hope we see A LOT more of your work and shop in the coming days, weeks, months and years. Stay well my friend and enjoy the fruits of your labor and career. Remember YOU BUILT that and no one, especially no slick talking politician can change that...!!! You enjoy Sir.
When I lived in New Westminster BC just over two year ago. I bought a small lathe from Busy Bee. and had it on my balcony to machine the parts , and shaft for the transmission you see in the picture. I had a blast, getting the Lathe into my apartment, on up onto the balcony, on the I would call the second floor. I hope that as of my writing this too you, that you have used some of your machines by now. Yes I am also a tool collector, but I have used almost every one for the things I build. ( I am retired) A lot of my tools, like my Lincoln 180 welder and my arc welder, where all bought at auction. So all I can say is have fun with your equipment and make something.
Hi Rod,very nice videos really like your story about your dad...I started just like you many years ago, now retired if my dad was alive he would be proud too...nice clean shop good luck in all you do.ray
Nice machine for your shop. I feel you on the nervous system. A few weeks ago I moved my 13" South Bend lathe (disassembled of course) down basement stairs with an engine hoist. It went safe and sound, but I'm sure glad that is over! :)
There is no such thing as having to many outlets in a shop, I don't care what anyone says. Glad to see someone else share this philosophy. That is a fine looking mill, too, and I am sure it will serve you well once you get it properly setup and adjusted. People bad-mouth Asian tools more than they deserve to be. About 5 years ago we got a Grizzly G3617 horizontal/vertical mill, 9 1/2 x 39 3/8, and it has served me well, though I still haven't used the horizontal milling feature yet. When I start cutting gears, I am sure that will change. But since my shop is in my basement, and the mill weighs in at 2050 lbs., I had to totally disassemble it to get it down stairs. This is not a bad thing necessarily, since they really need total disassembly to get all of the shipping grease cleaned out anyway. Once that is done, when you re-assembly, you have the chance to adjust everything just right. Plus, it is a good chance to get to intimately know the machine. I know the gibs on my table were way out of adjustment when I received mine new from Grizzly. But good luck with yours. Very nice shop too. I wish mine looked so neat and tidy. :)
Thank you Severus for your comments. WRT your G3617 mill I have a friend in Nanaimo who has a House Of Tools version of basically the same mill and he really likes it. He does a fair bit of boring on large industrial transmissions using the horizontal option. I have no idea how he can get the transmission on and set up for boring but he does. Thanks again Rod
Hi Canuckguy. Thanks a bunch for your comments. Yeah I have to admit I am still scared of fire. Have good friends down the street who have a high end hot rod shop and they use plasma and mig all the time and never worry about it - I just can't get it around my head But maybe in future. Again thanks a bunch for your comments. Rod
Hi Rod. Thank's for trying to help. I guess we've both got exactly the same machine, you're lousy user manual confirms it. I've already got a Grizzly manual, it is a very similar machine, however some of the important threads and dimensions are just slightly different. I really appreciate your trying to help. Like you, I've just bought and manhandled a new milling machine into my workshop, I chose three phase with an inverter and V.F.D. It's real test of muscle and nerve! Happily like your's, mine is safely in it's new home. It must be fantastic to start the design of your shop from scratch. My shop is my garage, and all my electric outlets are surface mounted. Stuart
Sir, You are of the same vintage as me. You ,like me , is obviously not a machinist ,but a toolaholic. I understand you because I have tools that are still in the box BUT I will use them eventually after I have mastered the theorie behind the machine. The internet is a great tool but I have a large library and I keep on buying technical books. (A vestage of my professional life) It's better than golf or drinking and may be useful to my children or grandchildren Enjoy A F Pienaar Johannesburg
Thank you Mr. Pienaar. Yes you are right I am a toolaholic - just love them. Used to be heavy into ham radio and then I was a radioaholic lol. Thanks for your nice comment. Rod
nice shop, its like you are trying to make me jealous or something. lots of people put the bridgeport style mills at a 45 in the corner so the back of the machine is in the corner and the end of the table travel puts the table hand wheels near the walls. i have use this myself and it works well.
Think about it this way, I have friends that have a bass boat that cost more than all the machines in your shop combined. They will NEVER pay for themselves in fish but the enjoyment the person gets when they do get to use the boat is worth it to them. I have a day job that takes over 100 hours of my time over six days every week but when I do have something break around the house I can normally fix whatever it is. I love building air rifles but have little time to do so but when I do find a few extra minutes that’s where I find myself. If the lathes and mill weren’t out there I couldn’t take advantage of that free time.
You have a really beautiful shop. The envy of an old cripple your jet is a very capable lathe. New mill what can I say , I can say I hope you enjoy it for many years. Super good luck to you sir.
good 4 u .I work 25 year welding 4 aero space co. I m libing the american dm here in mexico .I HABE THE SAME setup I know the feling noting like it amigo.
It was made by Vulmac in Tiawan model number C0632CX1000 & it's a 13 x 40. It looks very close but no cigar to a Grizzly G0750G. which is a 12 x 36. If your in the states I would be tempted to buy a Grizz. The instruction manual that came with the lathe didn't even have a name on it. The nameplate said made in Tiawan. I think it is branded by different suppliers so very generic. Hope this helps and thanks for watching and interest - good machining.
Milling machines fit into corners of the room best, but make sure the ram is slid back all the way before you settle on the final position. There will be plenty of room to wander all around the table inspecting what ever is in the vise. Good call supporting the head while returning it to the upright position, I have heard stories of the worm gear shearing and the operator suffering multiple fractures to his arm when he tried to move the thing with the gear drive alone. Better yet, get a younger guy to help.
I love the thought you've put into your shop, you should really start to use to its full potential. Can I ask what make and model your lathe is? I have the exact same machine, in the UK it's marketed by a company called "Warco". It's painted in their company colours of green and yellow. The reason I ask is; the owners manual that came with mine is atrocious! chinenglish throughout. If your machine came from a Canadian or US importer, then maybe their manual is better than the one I received with my lathe. (It's a great machine by the way!) Thanks Stuart
Sir, I am older than you. Like you, I too am a toolaholic. I have tech books coming out of my ear-roles, tools in myriad cupboards, machines I never use; but when told 'old man' you wouldn't know the difference between an end rod, and the shrivelled up one you can't even find, so why the hell do you spend dough on stuff you'll never use, and wouldn't know how to?" I say, it's where I sits 'n' thunks 'n' dream 'o the skills me old man never taught me, 'n' wish 'e did! And somehow, I feel closer to him.
Thanks for the nice comment - much appreciated. Interestingly my Dad was a machinist and since I could remember was Machine Shop Foreman at CIL plastics in Edmonton Alberta. He never talked about machining when I was growing up - never. But I guess I had it in my blood and when I retired it became my hobby. I know my Dad would be very proud of my shop. Thanks again Rod
My first thought was why would you never use it? And then I thought, hey some collect cars they'll never drive. Machining tools are cool as well and so if collecting those makes you happy and you can afford it, why not? Besides, nothing says you won't ever use it. Me? I'd feel the need to make some metal chips even if all I did was make a round piece into a smaller diameter round piece. (actually I'd probably practice doing that aiming for accurate measurements). My own dream machines would have servo motors and a CNC controller connected so I could design stuff via computer and have the machine make it for me.
Thanks for the comment - much appreciated. I have started to use the tools but I have this idiosyncrasy that I like to have things 'complete' before I use them. This winter I hope to make lots of chips. Thanks again Rod
I have a project I’d like see if interested in as you milling ULTEM 1000 on this beautiful mill. Can’t seem to find anybody interested in tacking milling solid block because of anealing process
Hi - sorry for the delay. I understand you wanted to know how much I paid for the lathe. It was new, never used but returned to the dealer as the buyer was going thru a divorce - got it for just under (Can) $4000. As the stands that come with lathes are very narrow and are designed to be bolted to the floor which I didn't want to do I built my own stand which cost me about $500. The lathe sells new in Vancouver BC Canada for $5000.00. Hope this helps Rod
Hi Userw12850 and thanks for your comment. Reason why I didn't buy a bridgeport was that I am retired on fixed income and could only afford so much money. A bridgeport in this like new condition would have been way beyond my means. Thanks again.
@Yorkiepoocharlie 🤣😂 that's the funniest thing I've heard all year 😂🤣... sure it is... 🤣 damn my side's are hurting with all the laughing. Better than a Bridgeport 😂🤣
@Yorkiepoocharlie no I've never worked that copy but I've worked on many others and trust me they are all rubbish with a few years on their back. Everything is great when new.. it's the test of time that sorts the men from the boys. Read the other comments and ask yourself why older Bridgeport Mills where out of their price range. 🤔. Trust me.. I do know what I'm talking about. Ferrari or Fiat which would you rather have? Peace bro. 👌👍
Hi Stuart I replied last night but when I checked it appears it didn't go thru. So here it is again. When I bought the lathe from a machine tool supplier the manual was the pits - likely just like the one you have. It also showed a couple of different versions of the front panel including levers. The lathe was also built in Taiwan. So I did some research and found out it was similar to one marketed in the States by a company called Grizzly Tools. They are the largest tool supplier in North America and produce excellent manuals for their machines. So I believe the manual for their G0750G lathe is very close to the one I have. You can get a PDF copy of the manual at cdn2.grizzly.com/manuals/g0750g_m.pdf Let me know if this helps. Rod
Hi Stuart. You contacted me over a year ago about the lathe manual and I was of limited help. I came across a video on youtube showing the same lathe as mine it is an Enco 13 x 40 and the front panel is identical. see video czcams.com/video/lgYeISo8JcY/video.html At 11 seconds into the video you can see it's a model Enco 411-0106. Looking for the manual online I was able to determine this model shares the same manual as their 12 x 36 lathe model number 411-0105. I can find manuals for sale online but no free downloads. Let me know if this helps. Rod
Hi Stuart. You contacted me over a year ago about the lathe manual and I was of limited help. I came across a video on youtube showing the same lathe as mine it is an Enco 13 x 40 and the front panel is identical. see video czcams.com/video/lgYeISo8JcY/video.html At 11 seconds into the video you can see it's a model Enco 411-0106. Looking for the manual online I was able to determine this model shares the same manual as their 12 x 36 lathe model number 411-0105. I can find manuals for sale online but no free downloads. Let me know if this helps. Rod
didnt realise grizxly made a full size mill..looks like it mirrors bridgeport.....hey what you think you need for the space you have unless its a bargin you cant pass.. then its a tough decision
I really liked your comments about doing things. It does not matter if you need them or not. Even if you don't need them, having a good time doing it is what really counts. Like your shop.
Thank you for your nice comments - Rod
Good on you, enjoy your time with all that wonderful machinery 😎
Good looking little Shop. Yes, you can never have to many tools.
Great video, wonderful see you're getting such quality equipment to help enjoy retirement and begin a new chapter of your life. Yep, I'm recently retired and right there with ya!
Hello Mr. NewMachinist, I enjoyed your shop tour VERY much. I think you are spot on, when it comes to buying whatever you want. Enjoy your retirement, take care of your health and take it easy. We hope we see A LOT more of your work and shop in the coming days, weeks, months and years. Stay well my friend and enjoy the fruits of your labor and career. Remember YOU BUILT that and no one, especially no slick talking politician can change that...!!! You enjoy Sir.
Thanks for the video. You have a great shop. Enjoy it.
When I lived in New Westminster BC just over two year ago. I bought a small lathe from Busy Bee. and had it on my balcony to machine the parts , and shaft for the transmission you see in the picture. I had a blast, getting the Lathe into my apartment, on up onto the balcony, on the I would call the second floor. I hope that as of my writing this too you, that you have used some of your machines by now. Yes I am also a tool collector, but I have used almost every one for the things I build. ( I am retired) A lot of my tools, like my Lincoln 180 welder and my arc welder, where all bought at auction. So all I can say is have fun with your equipment and make something.
Hi Rod,very nice videos really like your story about your dad...I started just like you many years ago, now retired if my dad was alive he would be proud too...nice clean shop good luck in all you do.ray
I had to rent this cool tool to move mine. It was a toe jack with caster wheels. 3 ton. Also called a '3 Ton Roll a Lift' . Made moving it a breeze!!!
Nicely laid out. I like how you have the hand tools on a sliding rack system. Well done !
You've got yourself a nice collection of tools and a nice shop going there ;)
Thanks for sharing!
Thats in great shape. Looks like new. Lucky bastard.
You are making my knees hurt.
Nice machine for your shop. I feel you on the nervous system. A few weeks ago I moved my 13" South Bend lathe (disassembled of course) down basement stairs with an engine hoist. It went safe and sound, but I'm sure glad that is over! :)
John Strange hey man! The world is a small place! Did not expect to see you here :-)
There is no such thing as having to many outlets in a shop, I don't care what anyone says. Glad to see someone else share this philosophy. That is a fine looking mill, too, and I am sure it will serve you well once you get it properly setup and adjusted. People bad-mouth Asian tools more than they deserve to be. About 5 years ago we got a Grizzly G3617 horizontal/vertical mill, 9 1/2 x 39 3/8, and it has served me well, though I still haven't used the horizontal milling feature yet. When I start cutting gears, I am sure that will change. But since my shop is in my basement, and the mill weighs in at 2050 lbs., I had to totally disassemble it to get it down stairs. This is not a bad thing necessarily, since they really need total disassembly to get all of the shipping grease cleaned out anyway. Once that is done, when you re-assembly, you have the chance to adjust everything just right. Plus, it is a good chance to get to intimately know the machine. I know the gibs on my table were way out of adjustment when I received mine new from Grizzly. But good luck with yours. Very nice shop too. I wish mine looked so neat and tidy. :)
Thank you Severus for your comments. WRT your G3617 mill I have a friend in Nanaimo who has a House Of Tools version of basically the same mill and he really likes it. He does a fair bit of boring on large industrial transmissions using the horizontal option. I have no idea how he can get the transmission on and set up for boring but he does. Thanks again Rod
Just found your channel and subscribed. Very nice mill. Man I’m jealous
Hi Canuckguy. Thanks a bunch for your comments. Yeah I have to admit I am still scared of fire. Have good friends down the street who have a high end hot rod shop and they use plasma and mig all the time and never worry about it - I just can't get it around my head
But maybe in future. Again thanks a bunch for your comments. Rod
great shop dude i love it !!!
Hi Rod.
Thank's for trying to help. I guess we've both got exactly the same machine, you're lousy user manual confirms it. I've already got a Grizzly manual, it is a very similar machine, however some of the important threads and dimensions are just slightly different. I really appreciate your trying to help.
Like you, I've just bought and manhandled a new milling machine into my workshop, I chose three phase with an inverter and V.F.D. It's real test of muscle and nerve! Happily like your's, mine is safely in it's new home. It must be fantastic to start the design of your shop from scratch. My shop is my garage, and all my electric outlets are surface mounted.
Stuart
nice shop! very nice indeed!
Sir, You are of the same vintage as me. You ,like me , is obviously not a machinist ,but a toolaholic. I understand you because I have tools that are still in the box BUT I will use them eventually after I have mastered the theorie behind the machine.
The internet is a great tool but I have a large library and I keep on buying technical books. (A vestage of my professional life)
It's better than golf or drinking and may be useful to my children or grandchildren
Enjoy
A F Pienaar
Johannesburg
Thank you Mr. Pienaar. Yes you are right I am a toolaholic - just love them.
Used to be heavy into ham radio and then I was a radioaholic lol.
Thanks for your nice comment. Rod
hey buddy you get all the machines you want and build anything you want to have fun dude !!!!!!!
nice shop, its like you are trying to make me jealous or something. lots of people put the bridgeport style mills at a 45 in the corner so the back of the machine is in the corner and the end of the table travel puts the table hand wheels near the walls. i have use this myself and it works well.
Love your workshop, you definitely have basically all my dream equipment. Enjoy!
A nice machine good luck with it.
Think about it this way, I have friends that have a bass boat that cost more than all the machines in your shop combined. They will NEVER pay for themselves in fish but the enjoyment the person gets when they do get to use the boat is worth it to them.
I have a day job that takes over 100 hours of my time over six days every week but when I do have something break around the house I can normally fix whatever it is.
I love building air rifles but have little time to do so but when I do find a few extra minutes that’s where I find myself. If the lathes and mill weren’t out there I couldn’t take advantage of that free time.
Thanks David and all the best on making air rifles. Rod
I just bought an Induma knee mill and i am excited to get it here!
Congratulations.
So impressive and jealous, I’ve wanted one of these for so long I’ve lost sleep
Nice shop.If you can afford ,go for it. That's what it's all about.
Saludos desde Chile buen taller. felicitaciones. espero ver pronto funcionando la Grizzly G9901
Does your machine have square ways? It’s a nice looking piece of equipment, congratulations! When are we going to see some chips?
Thats one heck of a nice mill. Looks just as beefy as a bridgeport. How has it been working out for you?
Did anyone else immediately think of AvE when he said "scookum" ? LOL
Nice shop. I like your attitude. Enjoy building and have fun.
You have a really beautiful shop. The envy of an old cripple your jet is a very capable lathe. New mill what can I say , I can say I hope you enjoy it for many years. Super good luck to you sir.
good 4 u .I work 25 year welding 4 aero space co. I m libing the american dm here in mexico .I HABE THE SAME setup I know the feling noting like it amigo.
good machines
That is incredible. I agree do it now.
Very nice shop. Super clean. What was the name of the big lathe? That's about the size I'm looking for
It was made by Vulmac in Tiawan model number C0632CX1000 & it's a 13 x 40. It looks very close but no cigar to a Grizzly G0750G. which is a 12 x 36.
If your in the states I would be tempted to buy a Grizz. The instruction manual that came with the lathe didn't even have a name on it. The nameplate said made in Tiawan. I think it is branded by different suppliers so very generic.
Hope this helps and thanks for watching and interest - good machining.
I am looking to buy one. How much did you pay for it.
Wow... that's a heavy looking mill. I'll bet that puts a real nice finish on the work. You lucky dog! What are you going to use it for?
Milling machines fit into corners of the room best, but make sure the ram is slid back all the way before you settle on the final position. There will be plenty of room to wander all around the table inspecting what ever is in the vise.
Good call supporting the head while returning it to the upright position, I have heard stories of the worm gear shearing and the operator suffering multiple fractures to his arm when he tried to move the thing with the gear drive alone.
Better yet, get a younger guy to help.
I love the thought you've put into your shop, you should really start to use to its full potential.
Can I ask what make and model your lathe is? I have the exact same machine, in the UK it's marketed by a company called "Warco". It's painted in their company colours of green and yellow. The reason I ask is; the owners manual that came with mine is atrocious! chinenglish throughout. If your machine came from a Canadian or US importer, then maybe their manual is better than the one I received with my lathe. (It's a great machine by the way!)
Thanks
Stuart
Hi Stuart. Which lathe? the 10x24 or the 13x40. I might be able to get you hooked up with a 'good' manual depending on which lathe. Rod
i like that quote,
Why do you buy big tools that you use for hobby work
i like building things
Sir, I am older than you. Like you, I too am a toolaholic. I have tech books coming out of my ear-roles, tools in myriad cupboards, machines I never use; but when told 'old man' you wouldn't know the difference between an end rod, and the shrivelled up one you can't even find, so why the hell do you spend dough on stuff you'll never use, and wouldn't know how to?" I say, it's where I sits 'n' thunks 'n' dream 'o the skills me old man never taught me, 'n' wish 'e did! And somehow, I feel closer to him.
Thanks for the nice comment - much appreciated. Interestingly my Dad was a machinist and since I could remember was Machine Shop Foreman at CIL plastics in Edmonton Alberta. He never talked about machining when I was growing up - never. But I guess I had it in my blood and when I retired it became my hobby. I know my Dad would be very proud of my shop.
Thanks again Rod
Keith Fenner moves on rollers
You could have moved it into place with the crane positioned in the front. I did it and it worked well.
My first thought was why would you never use it? And then I thought, hey some collect cars they'll never drive. Machining tools are cool as well and so if collecting those makes you happy and you can afford it, why not? Besides, nothing says you won't ever use it. Me? I'd feel the need to make some metal chips even if all I did was make a round piece into a smaller diameter round piece. (actually I'd probably practice doing that aiming for accurate measurements). My own dream machines would have servo motors and a CNC controller connected so I could design stuff via computer and have the machine make it for me.
Thanks for the comment - much appreciated. I have started to use the tools but I have this idiosyncrasy that I like to have things 'complete' before I use them. This winter I hope to make lots of chips. Thanks again Rod
What is the cost of milling machine
Bought the Milling machine for (Can) $6500 plus (Can) $600 for moving it. Spent another US $1500 for tooling
I have a project I’d like see if interested in as you milling ULTEM 1000 on this beautiful mill. Can’t seem to find anybody interested in tacking milling solid block because of anealing process
+Newmachinist: I am looking to buy one. How much did you pay for it.
Hi - sorry for the delay. I understand you wanted to know how much I paid for the lathe. It was new, never used but returned to the dealer as the buyer was going thru a divorce - got it for just under (Can) $4000. As the stands that come with lathes are very narrow and are designed to be bolted to the floor which I didn't want to do I built my own stand which cost me about $500. The lathe sells new in Vancouver BC Canada for $5000.00. Hope this helps Rod
new machine would probably be a G0757Z
Why didn't you buy a Bridgeport
Hi Userw12850 and thanks for your comment. Reason why I didn't buy a bridgeport was that I am retired on fixed income and could only afford so much money. A bridgeport in this like new condition would have been way beyond my means. Thanks again.
@Yorkiepoocharlie 🤣😂 that's the funniest thing I've heard all year 😂🤣... sure it is... 🤣 damn my side's are hurting with all the laughing. Better than a Bridgeport 😂🤣
@Yorkiepoocharlie no I've never worked that copy but I've worked on many others and trust me they are all rubbish with a few years on their back. Everything is great when new.. it's the test of time that sorts the men from the boys. Read the other comments and ask yourself why older Bridgeport Mills where out of their price range. 🤔. Trust me.. I do know what I'm talking about. Ferrari or Fiat which would you rather have? Peace bro. 👌👍
Nice bridgeport j-head
Thanks for the information on the head. I am really new to this so didn't know it was that close of a copy. Thanks again Rod
Yea, keep that well oiled and it will out last you.
i think it's the wrong color rod, you're gonna have to paint it, eh!
What happened to your buddies that was helping? You really need them now
Hi Rod.
it's the 13 x 40 I'm most interested in.
Thanks for the reply.
Stuart
Hi Stuart I replied last night but when I checked it appears it didn't go thru.
So here it is again. When I bought the lathe from a machine tool supplier
the manual was the pits - likely just like the one you have. It also showed a
couple of different versions of the front panel including levers. The lathe
was also built in Taiwan. So I did some research and found out it was similar
to one marketed in the States by a company called Grizzly Tools. They are
the largest tool supplier in North America and produce excellent manuals for
their machines. So I believe the manual for their G0750G lathe is very close to the one I have. You can get a PDF copy of the manual at
cdn2.grizzly.com/manuals/g0750g_m.pdf
Let me know if this helps. Rod
Hi Stuart. You contacted me over a year ago about the lathe manual and I was of limited help. I came across a video on youtube showing the same lathe as mine it is an Enco 13 x 40 and the front panel is identical. see video
czcams.com/video/lgYeISo8JcY/video.html
At 11 seconds into the video you can see it's a model Enco 411-0106. Looking for the manual online I was able to determine this model shares the same manual as their 12 x 36 lathe model number 411-0105. I can find manuals for sale online but no free downloads. Let me know if this helps. Rod
Hi Stuart. You contacted me over a year ago about the lathe manual and I was of limited help. I came across a video on youtube showing the same lathe as mine it is an Enco 13 x 40 and the front panel is identical. see video
czcams.com/video/lgYeISo8JcY/video.html
At 11 seconds into the video you can see it's a model Enco 411-0106. Looking for the manual online I was able to determine this model shares the same manual as their 12 x 36 lathe model number 411-0105. I can find manuals for sale online but no free downloads. Let me know if this helps. Rod
didnt realise grizxly made a full size mill..looks like it mirrors bridgeport.....hey what you think you need for the space you have unless its a bargin you cant pass.. then its a tough decision
20 minutes and no mill demo
Why cut the pallet in half?
It was so he could get the engine hoist in to lift it says it in vid
Seems you can buy bigger machine cheaper than small ones, because noone wants to have to move them
Bigger machines made to move twice. In and out.
Offloaded is the term. Downloaded is computers.
This bad at planning moving the mill...I predict a very expensive future in your miling hobby.