FIXING THE CATS MOVIE [it's not the CGI it's the design]

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • I was going to do a totally different video this week but then I saw Cats and I have some thoughts.
    Seriously if you guys have any ideas on how to make them look cuter let me know I wanna know how other people would tackle it.
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  • @JRKonungrinn
    @JRKonungrinn Před 4 lety +11598

    I feel like leaving the human noses was one of their biggest mistakes.

    • @sailiealquadacil1284
      @sailiealquadacil1284 Před 4 lety +755

      The mouths bothered me far more. Especially if the lips were really full.

    • @hannah_m
      @hannah_m Před 4 lety +57

      Yeah!

    • @rarirey8264
      @rarirey8264 Před 4 lety +47

      @death is a preferable alternative to communism you're rude...but also true

    • @hhh-bu3qj
      @hhh-bu3qj Před 4 lety +57

      I hate the lips. They're just..disgusting

    • @martinawolf2983
      @martinawolf2983 Před 4 lety +18

      @@sailiealquadacil1284 Yeah, my brain just went "nope!"

  • @MikaelaCher
    @MikaelaCher Před 4 lety +6067

    Imagine a beautifully dressed cat like balletina who gets scared, and then her ears move back, her tail fuzzes up and her eyes change. That fits the mood she's feeling, and also makes her not look creepy as hell!

    • @natnat7297
      @natnat7297 Před 4 lety +183

      U ever seen she ra? Basically, take this, remove the ballerina part and make them a suave lesbian. She emotes just like this, and her name is catra

    • @maleaplayz9008
      @maleaplayz9008 Před 3 lety +48

      Nat Nat best lesbian cat :3

    • @irisrowell181
      @irisrowell181 Před 3 lety +32

      @@natnat7297 yasss, catraaaaa, she a lesbian beannn

    • @letmeramble
      @letmeramble Před 3 lety +12

      👏👏👏👏 FRICKIN YASS

    • @MikaelaCher
      @MikaelaCher Před 3 lety +13

      @@natnat7297 Omg yes

  • @eggwhites299
    @eggwhites299 Před 4 lety +5800

    You know there's something wrong with it when furries start hating it.

  • @happybirthdayame7334
    @happybirthdayame7334 Před 4 lety +4510

    Cats are really expressive... Body language, their tails, the way they watch you like they’re really paying attention, the eyes and ears... the movie missed it all

    • @maleaplayz9008
      @maleaplayz9008 Před 3 lety +7

      fabiana espinoza true

    • @killugonshipper5181
      @killugonshipper5181 Před 3 lety +4

      Ik

    • @Silver-yh9hk
      @Silver-yh9hk Před 3 lety +66

      Even the way their fur ruffles is expressive qwq

    • @l692
      @l692 Před 3 lety +43

      Yeah! Just by looking at my cats (or any) i can completely tell if they're sad, happy, tired, angry, scared, calm, curious e.c.t

    • @f3rn436
      @f3rn436 Před 3 lety +22

      Yeah and also when you do something wrong and they look at you indignantly like "you scoundrel shall do this right! My love is only bought with catnip and respect!" (Its better when ya say it in British)

  • @Aubob69
    @Aubob69 Před 4 lety +2721

    The thing that freaked me out was the fact that they had noses...human noses...

    • @dead9283
      @dead9283 Před 4 lety +19

      Auburn Sandner samee!

    • @gpug4415
      @gpug4415 Před 4 lety +82

      I didn’t even realize this oh my god you’re right...

    • @lilscenechick1995
      @lilscenechick1995 Před 4 lety +106

      And their lips looked so bizarre especially if they had dark/red lips with light fur coats. It just didn't look good.

    • @yspy_1801
      @yspy_1801 Před 4 lety +1

      Anime

    • @thekittyburger3175
      @thekittyburger3175 Před 4 lety +6

      And lips....

  • @koyo5088
    @koyo5088 Před 4 lety +924

    I don't know why they made almost all the cats short haired, when all of the cats were very fluffy originally.

    • @Fae-kisses
      @Fae-kisses Před 4 lety +69

      gwen I’m guessing bc the cgi would be easier to animate

    • @RealCtc
      @RealCtc Před 4 lety +15

      @@Fae-kisses ha, laziness

    • @tessak1954
      @tessak1954 Před 4 lety +19

      And the one that did have long fur seemed way more normal than the other cats

    • @Fae-kisses
      @Fae-kisses Před 4 lety +3

      Ctcartsandgaming yep what do you expect from movie companies now

  • @JikuAraiguma
    @JikuAraiguma Před 4 lety +1836

    While I generally don’t approve of “Fixing” art, this is one case where I’m sure most of us can unanimously agree that there is an issue that needs to be assessed and fixed with the CATS designs.

    • @nocarbonationtm21
      @nocarbonationtm21 Před 4 lety +112

      I totally agree. Usually, "fixing" art is just critiquing and redesigning. But the Cats movie is kind of universally disliked, for the CGI or just in general.

    • @ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732
      @ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732 Před 4 lety +46

      @@nocarbonationtm21 How are you supposed to "fix" art without critiquing and redesigning?

    • @caspianodinsson5084
      @caspianodinsson5084 Před 4 lety +144

      keep in mind, this is a large studio's work that we're fixing, NOT an individual's work. that's the difference. it's one thing to fix, say, Disney's work, than to pick one artist on DeviantArt and "fix" their artwork.
      edit: grammar

    • @crowthewicked8344
      @crowthewicked8344 Před 3 lety +31

      @@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732 I see as those who 'fix' art are people who make changes to accommodate their own biases. And when you claim to fix something, you immediately put your work on a higher pedastal to the original. Though not all of them are like this, but many.

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion Před 3 lety +18

      Most art students pay for someone to "fix" our art, I dont really understand not being able to accept constructive criticism (not bashing the art) if Im drawing unporportionally or I can use a certain brush technique better Im alll ears, but if someone just says "that sucks its weird", doesnt help anyone. I mean if that was the case than why was Sonic successful after being re-conceptualized? Ya know what I mean?

  • @starstrucketh5084
    @starstrucketh5084 Před 4 lety +2616

    It's honestly funny how the live action Cat in the Hat movie from 2003 made a better humanoid cat than Cats in 2019

    • @lilratman7922
      @lilratman7922 Před 3 lety +211

      Well I mean the cat in the hat is still horrific

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 Před 3 lety +180

      The bar was so low and they dug a hole to avoid it.

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 Před 3 lety +39

      I find the Cats cats much more approachable than the live Cat in the Hat. No idea why.

    • @neilmcmahon4139
      @neilmcmahon4139 Před 3 lety +37

      Cat in the hat live action haunted my dreams as a kid.

    • @livvygrossmann6004
      @livvygrossmann6004 Před 3 lety +37

      Honestly both are horrifying

  • @madgadgetss
    @madgadgetss Před 4 lety +11839

    "so now i'm just gonna circle a few places-" *circles 80% of the image*

  • @laceneil4570
    @laceneil4570 Před 4 lety +5272

    They should have stayed as close to the actual musical, ie using makeup, wigs and fake fur, as possible and only used cgi to animate the tails and ears.

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 Před 4 lety +93

      Lace Neil Yes! It would look better

    • @kittykat123425
      @kittykat123425 Před 4 lety +127

      In fact maybe just do a theatrical release of a professional recording

    • @0lala020
      @0lala020 Před 4 lety +82

      This was what I was hoping and had assumed they were gonna do when I first heard of the movie. Then I saw the pictures and trailers and.....just disappointed.

    • @Nehu_22
      @Nehu_22 Před 4 lety +35

      Yes that's exactly what they should have done, just animate the ears and tails so they can use the movements for more expression
      (But keeping them a bit like just props maybe)

    • @enderman.01
      @enderman.01 Před 4 lety +9

      Yeah, and they should have made special clothes to look like fur but more fluffy so it doesn't look so naked QwQ

  • @shinyjules8088
    @shinyjules8088 Před 4 lety +1861

    The sad part about Cats is my gran got excited to hear that they were making it into a movie! (She saw the musical in the 80's) and then felt so cheated with the shitty designs.

    • @agenitty
      @agenitty Před 3 lety +287

      *we must avenge your grandmother, WRONGS MUST BE RIGHTED*

    • @CookiesAreNoice
      @CookiesAreNoice Před 3 lety +160

      We must fix this for your grandma sake

    • @tiredfruit_
      @tiredfruit_ Před 3 lety +81

      Avenge the gran!

    • @turtlespeedrunner
      @turtlespeedrunner Před 3 lety +48

      @@tiredfruit_
      *Y E S*

    • @bloopthecat5181
      @bloopthecat5181 Před 3 lety +22

      Imma eat da peeps who made the cats movie for making your grandma sad >:D

  • @ThaneOfLichen
    @ThaneOfLichen Před 4 lety +7226

    Let's be real: most furries could have done better than the cats movie.
    Edit: what the fuck how is this my most liked comment-

  • @merrowley
    @merrowley Před 4 lety +6020

    they couldve solved the whole thing by talking to just one furry

    • @EverTheFractal
      @EverTheFractal Před 4 lety +785

      Literally. Like so many mainstream movies with anthros fail because they look creepy and five minutes after a trailer drops I see a furry artist doing a quick sketch and making it look fantastic

    • @lyvialau3254
      @lyvialau3254 Před 4 lety +341

      I don't even support furries, but I completely agree with you

    • @Nionivek
      @Nionivek Před 4 lety +433

      I find it funny you said this because I've had people going "Well, at least this movie will be popular with Furries" and I was like "Ohhhh no, they hate it!"

    • @t3rrortoff33
      @t3rrortoff33 Před 4 lety +268

      @@Nionivek the last good movie with anthro animals was zootopia ksksksksksksos I feel like the designers were furries

    • @strawberrybunny1875
      @strawberrybunny1875 Před 4 lety +7

      Mer Rowley lol

  • @SofiaJSerrato
    @SofiaJSerrato Před 4 lety +1006

    What bugged me the most was the inconsistency in character designs. Example: some had cat like noses while others did not. Some had fur clothes and some had regular clothes.
    Stuff like that.

    • @aussiewanderer6304
      @aussiewanderer6304 Před 4 lety +37

      And some had no clothes. Nudist cats?

    • @shinigamikitty
      @shinigamikitty Před 4 lety +8

      @@aussiewanderer6304 Well, they are suppose to be cats... nothing more and nothing less. My cats don't wear clothes.... most actual cats don't wear clothing so XD

    • @michelleschaefer683
      @michelleschaefer683 Před 4 lety +8

      Did you see the original? Some cats in it wear clothes and it's quite important

    • @SofiaJSerrato
      @SofiaJSerrato Před 4 lety +16

      @@michelleschaefer683 I've seen a video taped version of the original. Some cats have clothes but they're used to accentuate distinct fur details and characteristics. They look like they're part of the body, like the leg warmers or the fur cloaks. In this film it's inconsistent because some of the clothing is actual clothing while others are part of the fur, which, for the film version, looks clumpy and weird. I personally think for the film version they should have had real clothing on the CG cats rather than weird CG clothing attached to the cats.

    • @ggundercover3681
      @ggundercover3681 Před 5 měsíci

      How did you read this thread and miss the entire point? Obviously we know about real cats. So then why do the cats wear clothes at all in the movie? Even after 3 years, reading comments like these irk me. ​@@shinigamikitty

  • @JaylukKhan
    @JaylukKhan Před 4 lety +4637

    How to successfully adapt Cats into a movie:
    Step One: don't
    Step Two: don't
    Step Three: make it a cartoon

    • @touristgabriel6894
      @touristgabriel6894 Před 3 lety +269

      Step four: Respect your VFX artists

    • @galadballcrusher8182
      @galadballcrusher8182 Před 3 lety +82

      WRONG WRONG AND WRONG again cause if you were actually knowledgeable about the musical and understood the material it is based upon you would also know that according to A. L. W. when he approached T.S. Eliot's widow asking for permission to adapt the material into a musical she asked if they will make them like pussycats and he said no, then she replied " cause Disney had approached him ( T.S Eliot) about it and he refused, he didn't want them made into cartoony pussycats"

    • @touristgabriel6894
      @touristgabriel6894 Před 3 lety +144

      @@galadballcrusher8182 true, so maybe use costumes from the original musical. Or just do the animation in a style different from Disney, animation is a medium so just because they are animated doesn’t mean they have to be made “Pussy Cats”
      And 👏 Respect👏Your👏VFX👏Artists

    • @JaylukKhan
      @JaylukKhan Před 3 lety +31

      @@galadballcrusher8182 who cares? Make it a cartoon or don't do it.

    • @timtam3730
      @timtam3730 Před 3 lety +15

      @@galadballcrusher8182 Well live action pussy cats didn't work out so does he really have anything to lose at this point?

  • @eveast4247
    @eveast4247 Před 4 lety +443

    They low key looked like a medieval painting of a cat..

    • @Longcatcloud
      @Longcatcloud Před 3 lety +30

      Spot on! The terror of cats in old paintings never ceases to amuse me~

    • @pastelskulls
      @pastelskulls Před 2 lety +7

      They really do

  • @madzthedad
    @madzthedad Před 4 lety +7453

    I hate when people say "It's bad CGI"
    It's not bad CGI, it's bad design

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer Před 4 lety +285

      It's both. They didn't do their homework with clear plates and as usual calculated way too little time to finish the effects properly.

    • @Caroo1313
      @Caroo1313 Před 4 lety +190

      it's definitely both, the design is bad BUT the quality of the cgi is BAD too. there are people's feet going into the floor & the floor bending around them?, the head overlay moves weirdly sometimes, there's fur-face-overlays disappearing or a visible gap between the overlay and the actual face, etc etc. if you pay attention more and more flaws become painfully obvious. I agree that the design was the main flaw but the cgi is still embarrasing for a 2019 movie and it's mainly because they rushed this film into theatres when the special effects were nowhere near finished. I kind of feel bad for the cgi people who made this because you can see that they do have the skill but they just weren't given enough time to create a consistently good product, let alone a great one.

    • @danielborbolla4677
      @danielborbolla4677 Před 4 lety +9

      the design is part of the cgi

    • @ellokittyca
      @ellokittyca Před 4 lety +20

      Like, did you see that water Bustopher Jones was drinking? The CGI was terrible. The proportions and design are all part of the CGI presentation. Was the CGI the only problem? No. Was the CGI also a major problem. Absolutely.

    • @LifeInPink999
      @LifeInPink999 Před 4 lety +18

      @@Quotenwagnerianer The director finished at the last minute. And no one didn't even saw it before the premiere. Like how can that happen? How can someone spend so much money yet keep editing till the last moment and still show the unfinished product?

  • @joz-
    @joz- Před 4 lety +2555

    "The clothes should be real and should always be on"
    *Thank you*

    • @noahmaxi8062
      @noahmaxi8062 Před 4 lety +47

      *takes clothes off*

    • @wonderbirb
      @wonderbirb Před 4 lety +17

      Clothes Always

    • @baronsaturday8173
      @baronsaturday8173 Před 4 lety +58

      *Zips off skin, revealing clothes underneath*

    • @red_calla_lily
      @red_calla_lily Před 4 lety +21

      The naked Cat-Human bodies are so disturbing. It's like material for r/confusedboners, with empathis on "confused"

    • @friday8644
      @friday8644 Před 4 lety +10

      This is amazing out of context

  • @OhLilacc
    @OhLilacc Před 4 lety +196

    I love how macavity was wearing a thick coat at first and then halfway through he was just like "Nah screw this" then went naked and because you had already gotten used to him wearing clothes, he just looked SO naked lmao

  • @jaclynmartinez1871
    @jaclynmartinez1871 Před 3 lety +121

    4:59 those random lines are what we call “artist accidentally creating lines because they slid their hand across the screen”

  • @appleminte
    @appleminte Před 4 lety +5024

    If Cats looked like this I’d go see the movie

  • @jofish5678
    @jofish5678 Před 4 lety +1962

    "I did a horrible thing. And I want to show it to you" best thing ever

  • @arianameinking688
    @arianameinking688 Před 4 lety +660

    Petition for the movie makers to hire LavenderTowne to redo the Cats movie, with the same sounds and voices but her animation. Crazy, but it would be so good. I'd actually watch the movie if this was done.

    • @lowercase_ash
      @lowercase_ash Před 3 lety +18

      Idk if lavendertowne could make a whole movie

    • @arianameinking688
      @arianameinking688 Před 3 lety +20

      @@lowercase_ash if she was commissioned, she probably could make the time for it. And she definitely has the skill

    • @ignoremelol2576
      @ignoremelol2576 Před 3 lety +50

      @Ariana Meinking do you know how many PEOPLE and TIME it takes to make a animated movie?! Lavender couldn’t do it alone no matter how much money she was payed. Plus she doesn’t do commissions anymore (I think)

    • @brunetteartist2750
      @brunetteartist2750 Před 3 lety +57

      Rather than having her animate the whole movie, i would say she could be hired as a character designer

    • @birdsfly3006
      @birdsfly3006 Před 3 lety +34

      She could do the design and basic movements, but they could hire professional animators to do the animating in her style.

  • @annabanana7698
    @annabanana7698 Před 3 lety +115

    “I did a bad thing and I’m going to show it to you now”
    CZcams: perfect just in time for an add

  • @muldrothamadness
    @muldrothamadness Před 4 lety +20176

    They should have just hired furries. This is literally their thing.

    • @Scriblyn
      @Scriblyn Před 4 lety +1544

      wait bruh you're right

    • @lycanthrochick
      @lycanthrochick Před 4 lety +388

      Mew

    • @magickwomann
      @magickwomann Před 4 lety +820

      yeah they should’ve hired my entire friend group. we’re all furries in this group

    • @davekatyaoi
      @davekatyaoi Před 4 lety +355

      They should of i'm kinda creeped out because of this movie ( I'm a furry so OwO )

    • @thisishxll0we3n_
      @thisishxll0we3n_ Před 4 lety +151

      I'm a furry too. I could've been hired as a kitten or cat

  • @em745
    @em745 Před 4 lety +10911

    Cats Movie : *exists*
    *everyone felt uncomfortable*

    • @MidMistOinks
      @MidMistOinks Před 4 lety +31

      Hi how are Ya it’s super effective!

    • @joanna6685
      @joanna6685 Před 4 lety +11

      Everyone cried lol

    • @schuychu
      @schuychu Před 4 lety +10

      Hi how are Ya hello Bakugou

    • @leonadoorley3666
      @leonadoorley3666 Před 4 lety +10

      @@MidMistOinks
      Yeah.. it doesn't look right ;- ;
      Nobody's gonna like Taylor swift anymore..

    • @jestemwsiokiem8769
      @jestemwsiokiem8769 Před 4 lety +3

      speak for yourself hun

  • @tomyablaster1107
    @tomyablaster1107 Před 4 lety +107

    Lavender:I’m going to circle every wrong
    Lavender: continues to circle everything

  • @0g0dn0
    @0g0dn0 Před 4 lety +196

    I'm not even halfway through and I already like this better. I previously thought Cats should only be interpreted one of two ways, namely either as a Don Bluth-esque 2D animation, or in the form of the original 80's style costumes, but your third answer is a perfect compromise, I'd say.

  • @Princess_Belle_
    @Princess_Belle_ Před 4 lety +3598

    At this point, the Cats movie even scares away the furries..

  • @mororuart
    @mororuart Před 4 lety +2312

    Cats: the awful human cat hybrid cgi
    Avatar: the amazing human cat hybrid cgi

  • @stealthlock6634
    @stealthlock6634 Před 3 lety +30

    I’m glad you pointed out the inconsistency of some cats having clothes and some not, making the non clothed cats feel more nude than if there were no clothes at all, and you just choose to clothe them all. THANK YOU

  • @ravenberrry
    @ravenberrry Před 3 lety +25

    Honestly the og musical and 1998 filmed musical got it the most right, like they styled everything to EVOKE the image of a cat and it worked really really well

  • @oliviabailey1838
    @oliviabailey1838 Před 4 lety +11939

    lavender town: I’m gonna circle everything that looks wrong *circles everything*

  • @NINA-tz8ug
    @NINA-tz8ug Před 4 lety +1260

    “I’m just going to circle what makes me uncomfortable”
    *circles everything*

  • @BARKZIM
    @BARKZIM Před 4 lety +98

    lavender towne in the second half of the video: I JUST DID A BAD TH I N G
    I REGRET THE THING I DIIIIIDDDD AND YOURE WONDERING WHAT IT IS, TELL YOU WHAT I DID I DID A BAAAADD THIINNNGGGGG

  • @cameicho6415
    @cameicho6415 Před 4 lety +439

    When I saw the Cats movie I was like-
    "*_SIGH_* juST HIRE _FURRIES_ THIS IS THEIR THING" (I sound rlly aggressive lmao)

  • @cluxiroge
    @cluxiroge Před 4 lety +4191

    I just saw the cats movie and let me just say: This would be a tremendous improvement.

    • @leigheaux928
      @leigheaux928 Před 4 lety +28

      Serena Kielley I might see it tomorrow... How should I prepare myself😂

    • @asclepius_8759
      @asclepius_8759 Před 4 lety +49

      Mars Tea get ready for a very weird beginning with a whole bunch or cats surrounding a bag with a white cat in it, it gets better after that

    • @cluxiroge
      @cluxiroge Před 4 lety +9

      @@leigheaux928 Don't question what jellicle mean.

    • @galactichedgehog4352
      @galactichedgehog4352 Před 4 lety +29

      @@leigheaux928 shield your eyes when James Cordens character cat comes on, my friend started crying from fear when he came on...i don't blame her...

    • @SaltedJello
      @SaltedJello Před 4 lety +2

      Serena Kielley AH YES, ENSLAVED KNOWLEDGE

  • @raest2093
    @raest2093 Před 4 lety +12153

    lavendertowne: it's not the cgi, it's the design
    me, tired artist: *ah, a man of the culture as well*

    • @Crystal_500
      @Crystal_500 Před 4 lety +122

      @@DaWaed A *tired* artist, i think that was proposital

    • @W0RMGUTS
      @W0RMGUTS Před 4 lety +44

      Also lavendertowne:
      They should avoid using CGI everywhere they can.

    • @yordle_chan2519
      @yordle_chan2519 Před 4 lety +101

      Man can mean female or male don't get butt hurt. An example "all of man kind"

    • @breezingby2737
      @breezingby2737 Před 4 lety +103

      ^^ the first two ppl who commented on this chain, learn to take a joke. I call all my friends, male and female, names like bro, dude, man, bruh, ect. Those are just friendly names and they shouldn't be gendered

    • @Mattie-Ai
      @Mattie-Ai Před 4 lety +7

      Although I would want to probably see a 2D version.

  • @julianleverton7045
    @julianleverton7045 Před 3 lety +87

    0:28
    "This is an example of bad CGI"
    No, this is THE example of bad CGI.

  • @mollyencrypted2488
    @mollyencrypted2488 Před 4 lety +29

    This is so cool! It also would have been way less stress on the VFX department, I presume - giving them only seven months to perfect a completely new technique and apply it to an entire feature-length film is just not a thing that was ever going to end well, but only having to deal with the eyes/ears/maybe tails, plus the occasional non-cat effect that couldn't be done with practical effects, seems a lot more manageable.
    Just...masquerade cats is such a cool route to take stylistically and I love it.

  • @xthemightygoatx
    @xthemightygoatx Před 4 lety +1273

    "unintentionally sexual" I'm pretty sure it was fully intentional.

    • @Imagin8io
      @Imagin8io Před 4 lety +80

      Two words. Kitty tiddies

    • @lesteryaytrippy7282
      @lesteryaytrippy7282 Před 4 lety +22

      It really is intentional, especially that Tugger.

    • @uh.trinity6506
      @uh.trinity6506 Před 4 lety +6

      Ewww...

    • @rossmandell8734
      @rossmandell8734 Před 4 lety +17

      listen to the original choreographer , Gillian Lynne, talk about the show. The overt sexuality is 100 percent intentional.

    • @TigirlakaLaserwolf6
      @TigirlakaLaserwolf6 Před 4 lety +18

      That's just how the musical has always been
      Original Tugger has girls screaming at his crotch while he hip thrusts
      It's great

  • @sarabogarin3649
    @sarabogarin3649 Před 4 lety +4259

    "I'm gonna circle a few places were it make me feels uncomfortable"
    Me: Circles the hole image

  • @scarlettbarrera4479
    @scarlettbarrera4479 Před 3 lety +35

    "I did a really bad thing....im gonna show it to you...now"
    CZcams: *RAIDSHAWDOW LEGENDS-*
    Me: AHHHHHHHHHJDIEJEBJDJDBD

  • @IsomerMashups
    @IsomerMashups Před 4 lety +165

    How about they just use the musical's costumes?
    _This is an issue that has already been solved._

  • @zealiee
    @zealiee Před 4 lety +2205

    No cap why the hell isnt this girl not hired at a top digital art and design company?

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +57

      i know right?!

    • @brieezeybrieezeyy3967
      @brieezeybrieezeyy3967 Před 4 lety +30

      Righhhttt? 🚫🧢

    • @kerenacosta7966
      @kerenacosta7966 Před 4 lety +50

      The problem is whether or not she can keep up with the work strain

    • @alexpaige8296
      @alexpaige8296 Před 4 lety +32

      Why? she makes her living off her own art, she doesn't need to work for anyone to make money.

    • @leftoverlemons930
      @leftoverlemons930 Před 4 lety +32

      I don’t think she’s there yet.
      Her designs kind of fall around the same body types, skin tones, and proportions. While I like her work, there is a lot she needs to improve on. Her shading is very heavy, and while better than I can do, it is not at a concept design level. I especially struggle with her body types. The facial features of her work are great. However, she tends to draw very thin characters. I’d like to see characters with different body types. I feel as though Lavender towne struggles with this.

  • @grey620
    @grey620 Před 4 lety +1561

    Lavendertowne: *sees cats*
    Lavendertowne:
    Lavendertowne:
    Lavendertowne: well this need to gO

    • @linne6962
      @linne6962 Před 4 lety +2

      I agree lol

    • @grey620
      @grey620 Před 4 lety +1

      pswsh was bad 34 people like you belong in prison

    • @grey620
      @grey620 Před 4 lety

      pswsh was bad 34 my bad dude

    • @grey620
      @grey620 Před 4 lety

      pswsh was bad 34 *stage whispers* ...is your dad a furry

    • @grey620
      @grey620 Před 4 lety

      pswsh was bad 34 oh my gods I’m so sorry

  • @KonnaroTaro
    @KonnaroTaro Před 4 lety +143

    Bruh there used to be a scrapped idea of a Spielberg animated cats movie in the early days
    The designs are actually beautiful

  • @georgia8830
    @georgia8830 Před 4 lety +52

    Just make the whole thing an anime and everyone would be happy

  • @aleahlrb
    @aleahlrb Před 4 lety +5536

    My opinion:
    1. They should've used actual costumes like the musicals; or
    2. They should've made it a 3d animated feature film.

    • @adami6187
      @adami6187 Před 4 lety +291

      Definetely the costumes. Making it fully 3d animated would make the movie lose the most integral part of the show: The dancing.

    • @lucidmoth1023
      @lucidmoth1023 Před 4 lety +161

      Idk maybe a 2d film would be cooler. The again I just prefer 2d animation.

    • @adami6187
      @adami6187 Před 4 lety +59

      @@lucidmoth1023 I love 2d, but without the choreography, it just aint Cats

    • @mo0nflowersart
      @mo0nflowersart Před 4 lety +54

      my mom belives that they should have hired circus olay (a group of acrobatics and dance) and nefver had it done in cgi

    • @sharkie9975
      @sharkie9975 Před 4 lety +14

      I like having them in the costumes like in the musical

  • @smudgethecat6569
    @smudgethecat6569 Před 4 lety +2468

    “Running around with their furry little butts hanging out” 😂

  • @rachelwagner4434
    @rachelwagner4434 Před 4 lety +5

    9:50
    your laugh brings me joy

  • @adeaoud3404
    @adeaoud3404 Před 3 lety +13

    To fix the design if they HAD to do it in live action, they should've just done it with makeup and wigs and stuff like they did in the original stage musical. It looked super cool and really pretty and not disturbing.

  • @marvelouslee4427
    @marvelouslee4427 Před 4 lety +4327

    Lavender: “The clothes should always be on.”
    Me: “ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK”

    • @linforthewin
      @linforthewin Před 4 lety +28

      MARVELous Smol Pidgeot I ate a man alive tonight

    • @somethingtwice2297
      @somethingtwice2297 Před 4 lety +56

      @@linforthewin well this conversation escalated quickly and it wasn’t even long enough to become a conversation, was it-

    • @popcornpeanut4518
      @popcornpeanut4518 Před 4 lety +3

      Keep em on 👀

    • @butitwasmedio
      @butitwasmedio Před 4 lety +8

      oh ok, I'll put pants on then

    • @bloodofmars
      @bloodofmars Před 4 lety +10

      @@linforthewin I mean... did he taste good?

  • @AmayaHinageshi
    @AmayaHinageshi Před 4 lety +306

    I realized that there’s one simple thing that they could have done to take the entire cast out of the uncanny valley, and that is to give them cat noses... that’s it. It doesn’t fix everything but it makes them look exponentially better than they do without.

  • @mandymckk
    @mandymckk Před 4 lety +31

    “Furry but cheeks” is a phrase I’ll never get out of my head lmao

  • @bones_in_my_eyes
    @bones_in_my_eyes Před 3 lety +21

    me wearing $9 air buds "hi everybody its BATTERY LOW " XD there dead now

  • @jam9484
    @jam9484 Před 4 lety +2093

    A wise man once told me, "There is no such thing as a bad idea; only bad execution."

    • @leftoverlemons930
      @leftoverlemons930 Před 4 lety +16

      Not a Prophet
      Starlight Express is a bad idea. Actually it was three bad ideas.

    • @heccinchonkercat
      @heccinchonkercat Před 4 lety +13

      Moonbyul is my obsession if you want to take a selfie of you above water someone could do that over an inflatable pool. The actual motive behind that would be to take a good photo which someone could do with good execution. I’m sure there are examples that just can’t be saved but there are ways people could do that safely

    • @milomilo6515
      @milomilo6515 Před 4 lety +1

      Tea Dragon airs not a bad idea if he didn’t take that darn “sandwich”

    • @outtathepantry
      @outtathepantry Před 4 lety +5

      @Tea Dragon I don't know who the first dude is but I knew ANYBODY meeting Tomura is a bad idea.

    • @honeycomb937
      @honeycomb937 Před 4 lety

      @Tea Dragon don't forget the bombs. those are important.

  • @highgaugedesign
    @highgaugedesign Před 4 lety +610

    The easiest thing they could have done was to give them cat noses.

  • @avivastudios2311
    @avivastudios2311 Před rokem +3

    "I did a bad thing and I'm going to show it to you now."
    This is why I love this channel. You're so cute and creative and you try your best and you share your ideas even if they're not perfect.

  • @chieeerrrr
    @chieeerrrr Před 4 lety +29

    8:42 I just did a bad thing, I regret the thing I did. And youre wondering what it is, i'll tell you what I did, I did a baaaad thing"
    -Bill Wurz 2018

  • @rebeccarice4160
    @rebeccarice4160 Před 4 lety +3053

    It is almost like the people who designed the cats for cats had never actually met a cat

    • @roxyshow123
      @roxyshow123 Před 4 lety +78

      The director held them to unrealistic deadlines. They were given 7 months. Toy Story took 2 years.

    • @oh-totoro
      @oh-totoro Před 4 lety +35

      The thing is, their design was intentional. They wanted us to be able to tell that Taylor Swift was Taylor Swift. And that Idris Elba was Idris Elba, etc, etc. They got so many big name actors in there, and they wanted to make sure we knew it. And that's why their faces are too human-like.

    • @Zergonapal
      @Zergonapal Před 4 lety +5

      Or they took their inspiration from renaissance painters :D Look it up, don't thank me :p

    • @System-zu7np
      @System-zu7np Před 4 lety +4

      @@oh-totoro TBH my approach would have been Alita meets anime catgirl. Use Alita like proportions and animations make them look less human, slap some cat ears on top and give em a floofy collar. Sure animating every single one with the precision and love for details that was used on Alita is a monumental job but considering how much time spent on furry buttcheeks is saved it might just be worth it.

    • @mmtruooao8377
      @mmtruooao8377 Před 4 lety +2

      @@System-zu7np some the weird shaping can be partially achieved with illusionary makeup (like the trick mentioned with lips), i think they definitely could've just made like a "Cats the musical but accessible and not in the 80's" and it would've done well

  • @peepoo8846
    @peepoo8846 Před 4 lety +2864

    CZcams: Three seconds seems like long enough to start recommending people this video
    Me: *oh nice*

  • @cococorn6637
    @cococorn6637 Před 3 lety +7

    2:16 woah those cats are cute

  • @jackruttan3545
    @jackruttan3545 Před 4 lety +9

    This is a great exploration, and very gutsy messing around. I was also cheered by the fact that I'm not the only one who sometimes has problems with the stylus making nasty lines or dots while sketching. I appreciate that you are posting about honest process, what even experienced or "pro" artists go through, and not just "this is how awesome an artist I am."

  • @oliviascorciolla9525
    @oliviascorciolla9525 Před 4 lety +2772

    my main issue was the nose. literally if they slapped on a bit of black eyeliner and make a "cat nose" out of it i would have liked it a little better.

    • @StarstormAnimations
      @StarstormAnimations Před 4 lety +73

      Agreed, the noses were awful

    • @Snomnomm
      @Snomnomm Před 4 lety +66

      Don't forget about the human hands.

    • @kdog69
      @kdog69 Před 4 lety +12

      olivia scorciolla yes! thats what i’ve been saying!

    • @Yumichan62
      @Yumichan62 Před 4 lety +35

      I didnt even dislike the cats design that much (yes, that nose idea would have helped alot) but what botherd me the most was the weird effects they used when jumping (them jumping extremely far) or the way they were tiny in that big world. It just looked really weird to me.

    • @lizg235
      @lizg235 Před 4 lety +34

      The first thing most people do when they put on a cat costume for Halloween it's draw on their noses and the whiskers. I cannot believe they forgot something so basic like that.

  • @richerDiLefto
    @richerDiLefto Před 4 lety +3545

    “Cats” can’t be “Cats” without the wigs, leg warmers, and spiky collars. Making things all cgi is never a good idea.

    • @emvuosku4219
      @emvuosku4219 Před 4 lety +142

      Narnia?
      It came out years ago and is good as ever. Moviemakers these days are just lazy with design and movements. The Lion King live action remake would have been so much better if they hadn't used the "animals don't have facial expressions" excuse. It's not true and even if it was, it can be avoided with proper design.

    • @liljatupsu
      @liljatupsu Před 4 lety +88

      @@emvuosku4219 Yeah. Like there was a news article about a lion who scared a photographer and then smiled/laughed at him. How does one come to the conclusion of "animals don't have facial expressions. Has the director never had a pet?

    • @irishime
      @irishime Před 4 lety +41

      Oh yes...I remember seeing the Cats Broadway show on PBS TV in the 90s growing up.
      And I was hooked.
      I loved all the "cheesy" 80s stuff in that medium because it worked with the theme and coupled with the acting & music, didn't seem "cheesy" anymore once you got immersed into the show.
      That was great character & costume designing.
      Plus they had alot wasted talent in this movie adaptation. The movie would have been cool if they kept some things real and still used CG.

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt Před 4 lety +42

      @@irishime two things in the play that everyone talked about -- costuming and choreography, two things they wrecked in the film -- costuming and choreography.

    • @Azkahumaira
      @Azkahumaira Před 4 lety

      Actually the design is already gud but the only thing that is wrong is the face
      It would be better if the face is a real cat face and not human face

  • @lolagutierrez7066
    @lolagutierrez7066 Před 4 lety +24

    When I first heard about the cats movie I thought it would be like Aristocats style then I saw they trailer and I was sorely mistaken

  • @Benjamin1986980
    @Benjamin1986980 Před 3 lety +6

    I think that the masquerade masks would be a viable option on stage. one thing that you didn't mention that I think was key though, is the realistic coloring. Each cat on the stage musical is unique distinctive and instantly recognizable. The film gave them all realistic coat colorings, which ended up making them look very samey. They also increased the number of backup dancers, which lost the close-knit feel of the original. When you see bumble arena ever since seen one, when she has a solo in song seventeen, it feels more meaningful than if she just suddenly appears out of nowhere

  • @Luna-ld7vm
    @Luna-ld7vm Před 4 lety +1594

    This is something I would watch.

  • @zeesworld8397
    @zeesworld8397 Před 4 lety +441

    *is anyone wondering why the character design artists didn't catch these mistakes* ??

    • @MrMicklethal
      @MrMicklethal Před 4 lety +43

      *Nope.* There's a HUGE number of people approving/disapproving design elements in every film, especially when CGI is involved. The artists didn't make any mistakes, they did what they were told to do.

  • @astraySparrow
    @astraySparrow Před 3 lety +4

    Haven't seen this video when the discussion about Cats was relevant, but it's such a cool design at 11:30! I think maybe it will look less uncanny if expressions like blush just blend into the mask, like on top of fur and human skin, so the separation between skin and fur on the face will be less even. Like they do it in the cartoons if the anthropomorphic cat or bird blushes - red blush is displayed on top of their fur or feathers. Because if we choose to have life-like eyes and cat ears, which look functional for a viewer, it just adds uneasiness that there is such a clear distinction between the furry and human part of a character, especially on the face, so it could help to make it more "unclear" where human part ends and cat one begins.

  • @caramellpanda
    @caramellpanda Před 4 lety +270

    They should have either:
    1. Put the actors in costumes similar to those of the stage performance.
    2. Make it a 2D animation that was stylistically the same as “The Aristocats” or “Cats Don’t Dance”.
    The CGI and live action in general was a mistake and I’m getting kinda sick of both tbh.

  • @moneyhoney5776
    @moneyhoney5776 Před 4 lety +1424

    Even Avatar made the navi look more cat-like than the CATS movie😂like,navis aren't even supposed to be cats but it still has more cat-like features than the design for the CATS movie

  • @cecilianovais212
    @cecilianovais212 Před 4 lety +4

    9:26 - I like this way

  • @indiemation5194
    @indiemation5194 Před 3 lety +4

    LavenderTowne: *circles she doesnt like*
    me: *circles the whole body*

  • @xarxi3241
    @xarxi3241 Před 4 lety +594

    I really hope Cats comes out with a remake in years to come, with longer production time and a better design, hopefully based off of the musical. Even simply re-releasing the original with a different character design would be so much better.

    • @scoutart1508
      @scoutart1508 Před 4 lety +22

      better yet remaking the a film version into an animated version for netflix based on the amblimation art galleries

    • @preciouslakez7735
      @preciouslakez7735 Před 3 lety +4

      As long as it still has Taylor Swift in it, I'll vibe and watch it.

    • @runeanonymous9760
      @runeanonymous9760 Před 2 lety +3

      @@preciouslakez7735 the use of pop singers who expected everything to bend around them is one of the many many reasons it did not work! it was mostly the director, but also literally everything else was part of it. just animate the audio from the original musical recording with, like, cats what are somewhat anthropomorphized in their expressions and behaviors but are still quadrupedal. Or at least re-record everything with people who are trained in musical theater

    • @allanayounger9868
      @allanayounger9868 Před 2 lety +1

      i hope we get an adaptation or even another proshot with growltigers last stand, its such a good number thats left out way too often

  • @louangel9497
    @louangel9497 Před 4 lety +1433

    “I’m going to Circle the areas that make me uncomfortable”
    *me circles everything*

  • @Orpaz2
    @Orpaz2 Před 4 lety +5

    i love the type of mask idea, it looks so much better 🤍

  • @ly7158
    @ly7158 Před 4 lety +27

    The "bad thing" is what I do on a daily basis for my friend's contact pictures lol

  • @octo-pops
    @octo-pops Před 4 lety +746

    Universal: "Write that down, write that down"

  • @memeratic5015
    @memeratic5015 Před 4 lety +629

    "I-I dont know it doesnt look right."
    *Me when Im trying to draw the other eye*

    • @Erie32
      @Erie32 Před 4 lety +16

      Same I just normal cover my characters faces, or one eye with hair

    • @despinasgarden.4100
      @despinasgarden.4100 Před 4 lety +13

      Same,or the hands

    • @meatgrindrrr
      @meatgrindrrr Před 4 lety +4

      I’ve never related to comment so much before lmao

    • @memeratic5015
      @memeratic5015 Před 4 lety

      Im waiting for this comment to reach 666 likes

    • @memeratic5015
      @memeratic5015 Před 4 lety

      Just to make all the christians freak out. :V

  • @justarandomperson5309
    @justarandomperson5309 Před 3 lety +9

    10:40 ah yes my sleep paralysis demon

  • @iCat4Ever
    @iCat4Ever Před rokem +4

    8:00 honestly no, it’s very adorable. I would’ve loved a movie like that :)

  • @lycanthrop-ee9971
    @lycanthrop-ee9971 Před 4 lety +1659

    "They used Benedict Cumberbatch's facial expressions on a dragon, so.."
    They did w hat

    • @timecrayon
      @timecrayon Před 4 lety +103

      In the hobbit ...

    • @thatmoviegirl3814
      @thatmoviegirl3814 Před 4 lety +232

      Benedict Cumberbatch played Smaug from The Hobbit. I'm not too knowledgeable about the technical process but I believe they digitally mapped out his face as he acted it so they could use many of his expressions on the dragon itself. If you check out a behind the scenes, it's super entertaining, you just see Cumberbatch crawling around and making these awesome faces

    • @peeblekitty5780
      @peeblekitty5780 Před 4 lety +49

      it is a r i o t czcams.com/video/sXN9IHrnVVU/video.html

    • @HufflepuffsPanda
      @HufflepuffsPanda Před 4 lety +18

      Peeble Kitty THIS VIDEO IS INCREDIBLE

    • @peeblekitty5780
      @peeblekitty5780 Před 4 lety +22

      @@HufflepuffsPanda R IGHt
      between this and the goofiness that is the DBH acting clips, i have concluded we need more motion capture if for nothing more than to get more silly shit like this

  • @_cherry_soda_
    @_cherry_soda_ Před 4 lety +4590

    Cursed idea: CATS but everyone’s wearing a cat fursuit

    • @Username-1939t9
      @Username-1939t9 Před 4 lety +625

      that would be a tremendous improvment

    • @Greatsword585
      @Greatsword585 Před 4 lety +329

      Yeah at least it wouldn't be _as_ creepy

    • @AnnoyingMystery
      @AnnoyingMystery Před 4 lety +285

      so..... the actual onstage cats musical??

    • @yeetospagheeto9389
      @yeetospagheeto9389 Před 4 lety +139

      an improvement in my opinion

    • @cheesybeans5304
      @cheesybeans5304 Před 4 lety +87

      Fursuits themselves aren't creepy, the fact that people willingly walk around in them is creepy

  • @louera
    @louera Před 3 lety +9

    Ahh I love this design! It looks so cute and, execution-wise, it would be feasible and look so phenomenal and cute!

  • @hiitscupid3504
    @hiitscupid3504 Před rokem +4

    Isn’t it part of the show that the cats KNOW they’re putting on a show? So it’s completely perfect for them to have masks and look like performers because they know they’re performing

  • @jmaes678
    @jmaes678 Před 4 lety +1114

    I don’t see why they didn’t just animate it and have it feel almost like Disney’s aristocats

    • @mdsr4328
      @mdsr4328 Před 4 lety +36

      Spielberg was going to do that in the 1990s but the studio closed and they made the 1998 movie

    • @D0MiN0ChAn
      @D0MiN0ChAn Před 4 lety +19

      Apparently, T.S. Elliot's widow didn't allow it back in the day.

    • @bengisulo6659
      @bengisulo6659 Před 4 lety +5

      because it’s got no plot either? that’d be just as, if not more, boring

    • @NightFog23
      @NightFog23 Před 4 lety +32

      I think it’s just because you lose the dancing and the expression in the singing when you just make them cats. The plot is really weak, it’s more of a cabaret with a main goal rather than a story

    • @stef6722
      @stef6722 Před 4 lety +15

      Because the entire allure of Cats is the live, intricate dancing.

  • @Layla-ys3hy
    @Layla-ys3hy Před 4 lety +163

    when she was circling parts that were uncomfortable, I'm surprised she didn't circle the whole thing

  • @sillaylilayy
    @sillaylilayy Před 2 lety +4

    For cats they should’ve thought of the Lion King musical. Because in that musical the main character is the human version of a large cat, and I think the costume looked really nice and showed that the actor was a lion. Your interpretation really helped me not be scared of the movie anymore.

    • @user-yf6hi5mp5m
      @user-yf6hi5mp5m Před měsícem

      I have seen the broadway of the lion king and I agree the costume really showed that he was a lion I completely agree

  • @mikewazowski3335
    @mikewazowski3335 Před 4 lety +7

    What was wrong with the first sonic design was that they shrunk his eyes. Sonic has big almost diamond shapes eyes so it didn’t feel like our classic speedy hedgehog. That was cats first mistake too. The eyes were shrunken so it didn’t feel like a real cat.

    • @mmmirei
      @mmmirei Před 3 lety

      Some people call the creepy sonic that people didn’t like “human teeth sonic” but the newer better sonic also has human teeth lol

  • @lily-yw5wl
    @lily-yw5wl Před 4 lety +649

    But can you really fix this monstrosity?
    Edit: Yes, Yes you can. They’re super cute~

    • @azazel7548
      @azazel7548 Před 4 lety +15

      *they're
      Sorry I'm a grammar nazi

    • @linne6962
      @linne6962 Před 4 lety +5

      Debil sorry couldn’t resist lol

    • @spoon710
      @spoon710 Před 4 lety +2

      They’re*

  • @linne6962
    @linne6962 Před 4 lety +1365

    “We need to find out what is the problem...”
    Me: Everything

    • @moonix918
      @moonix918 Před 4 lety +4

      Pepsi Gachalife yes

    • @maggiehoffman6694
      @maggiehoffman6694 Před 4 lety

      How there's nothing even wrong with it and I can spot something wrong with something right away

    • @aki9059
      @aki9059 Před 4 lety +1

      There’s nothing wrong, their designed to look like that, y’all just don’t understand because you guys don’t do your research

    • @addie8080
      @addie8080 Před 4 lety +2

      Everything*

    • @linne6962
      @linne6962 Před 4 lety +2

      XoXoTrenni Am I not allowed to have an opinion?? My lord

  • @alourelina4838
    @alourelina4838 Před 3 lety +3

    10:12 i love this

  • @yuri_luver69
    @yuri_luver69 Před 3 lety +3

    Design workers: **scribbles notes while watching**

  • @insertcoolnamehere597
    @insertcoolnamehere597 Před 4 lety +252

    Just *one* furry on the design team would have prevented this madness

  • @zomb124
    @zomb124 Před 4 lety +1109

    Thou comment hast been re-written

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie Před 4 lety +25

      Wait she has pet *MICE* ?! I freaking love mice! They're so cute 😍

    • @NekoKumeika
      @NekoKumeika Před 4 lety +40

      @@47ratsinahoodie She has rats actually. Two if I'm correct

    • @Lumiyearsagoedited
      @Lumiyearsagoedited Před 4 lety +14

      AoTako yes, she has two rats

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie Před 4 lety +24

      @@NekoKumeika Rats are cute, too! I don't get the bad rep rats have. They just happened to spread a couple diseases a few times, so what? By that logic people should hate snakes since they're always biting people. Plus, I would kill for the flexibility of a rat.

    • @demoniclemonade
      @demoniclemonade Před 4 lety +4

      Hooded Raire Same but my mom won’t let me have one.

  • @lisatuzel2331
    @lisatuzel2331 Před 3 lety +5

    LavenderTowne in 2020: "I didn't want to start off this year with a bad thing"
    Me now: "Oh this, this will not be the worst thing in 2020... no no no no..."

  • @snugglebug_83
    @snugglebug_83 Před rokem +2

    i feel it they wanted to still use CGI on the face they could connect the furry mask to the skin because in (8:13) it looks more wolf-y and odd. It looks like an entirely different part, unconnected to the face, instead of part of the body

  • @Ruzovy_
    @Ruzovy_ Před 4 lety +277

    Lavandertowne: cats are cute
    Tablet: *LINE*