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Okay SPOILERS the thought that I had for this film while watching was that I was hoping that they would reveal that Magnifico’s wife was actually HIS WISH. That he wished to fall in love with a princess only for said magical construct to need more wishes to continue to exist.Hence why he was stockpiling wishes. I assumed this off of nothing. Wife’s delivery was so the good wife and placid I thought they were setting up a reveal that would tie into his tragic backstory.
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That really does make sense. Obviously Disney wouldnt think to do that tho
That would have been so interesting
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I listen to the soundtrack. That thought process is what I thought At All Costs was sort of hinting at. I had figured the queen was probably at one point dying or dead earlier on in the history of Rosas and he was selfishly keeping her alive at the cost of everyone else happiness. He probably took their memories away because he knew what it what it was like having his one wish taken from him and the desperation of needing it to be granted. It would have been an interesting twist on the true loves kiss/wish to bring back their true but unlike other protagonist his wish was possible performed artificially so he would have to constantly keep it going like a machine and in turn making Happily Ever After impossible for couple. Hopefully one of the books can fix this like the Twisted Tale Series or the Villian Series.
@@13RavenmoonMakes more sense as it makes a complex villain who’s like the entertaining ones we had back then in 90s but with a darker take with the idea you have👍
Fun, or unfunny, piece of trivia: the idea was to have a villainous couple with an evil king and queen. The only unique thing it could've had, and they deleted it.
Oh for f*k saaaakkkkee
Honestly I would liked to see that but knowing Disney with how they handled Frozen earlier on especially bts when it came to executive meddling and rushing the final concept, I’m sorta glad it never made the product. Love the idea but wished Disney decided to step out of their comfort zone nowadays
An evil Disney couple? The cosplayers Disney! Think of the cosplayers!
@@user-rf9co2ge7levery few weeks I’m reminded of what Frozen and Frozen 2 could’ve been without Corporate interference and I just get a little sad
You can see HINTS of it in the movie too. Early on I was suspicious of the queen, I thought she was maybe enabling or encouraging Magnifico's behavior.
The film's mediocrity makes me hate it because it truly is a testament to how Disney no longer wants to innovate. It's such a shameful way to celebrate their 100th anniversary.
Eh it's been happening for a while, eh those direct to DVD Disney sequels.
Disney seems to go through phases, where they put out a bunch of awesome movies, followed by a bunch of duds, followed by more awesome. Hopefully after this flop they'll enter their next awesome phase.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Those are much easier to ignore. When Disney's theatrical releases have been hit or miss now for almost 10 years, you know there's an issue.
But Sony, Dreamworks, and illumination are. Last wish even though great copied the peanuts movie’s animation style and is from Shrek which has been milked more than Toy Story, Spiderverse is from a pre existing franchise, and Mario is Mario so of course it will make money. Not saying any of these movies are bad but it’s true.
I dont think we'll ever get a Disney movie in the same level set by Encanto anytime soon unless Zootopia 2 has a good trailer
Disney will NOT be dodging the AI songwriting allegations after lines like "I let you live here for free without even charging rent" for their main villains songs. 💀
Fr that's just lazy 😭
Also "throwing caution to every warning sign" ....so she was gonna be catious. Cause thats what I'm pretty sure that lyric actually means.
FR!!!! I hate the music in this movie so much! For a 100th anniversary movie , I expected the music to be grand like Disney classics. It’s the only thing I was disappointed in this movie.
@@BobBob-tr7wiyeah they changed "Throwing caution to the wind" replacing "wind" with "every warning sign" without realizing that it no longer makes sense. The line needed a rewrite. I could see a line like this making first drafts before it's noticed, humans aren't perfect and when you look at the same project over and over you need fresh eyes to help catch mistakes like that sometimes. I'm surprised it made it all the way to the finished movie without someone catching that though.
Did you comment this on another video? 😮
"The art style makes the movie look unfinished."
"Actually, we made it that way on purpose as an artistic decision."
"Your artist vision makes the movie look unfinished."
Apparently there were a ton of layoffs in early 2023 which uh… may explain the unfinished-looking animation.
And considering it came out at the end of the year… I have the feeling that the animation team was forced by Disney to crap it out before the year ended so that it was in time for the 100 year anniversary
✨️ Basically ✨️
This artstyle is called "render preview"
@@cartoonishidealism582 not going to bat for disney or anything (company sucks, movie sucks) but they do often release movies around november. frozen, moana, encanto, etc were all released in november just like wish
If they wanted to create the fairytale book look, they should’ve taken some notes from Puss in Boots The Last Wish. They did a way better job
I remember hearing someone say in the comments there were original plans where both the King and Queen were meant to be evil together. Honestly, it would have been engaging with Disney to have an evil couple.
what happened i thought queen amaya was going to the next evil queen from snow white and queen of hearts from alice in wonderland.
Can you imagine a villain couple having a duet and dancing together in their palace without a care in the world? I would've loved that so much
@@threadyprawn8944 and absolutely adore each other. Imagine evil Fizz and Ozzie.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Yes!! We need more unapologetically evil couples with goals of a relationship.
I mean the way the Queen just takes over at the end and locks Magnifico away with no remorse are we SURE she's not evil? Maybe this was her game plan all along. 😂
It's completely fine as a babysitter film, but as film championing 100 years of Disney, it was doomed to fail. I'd blame the studio and the producers forcing this.
Pine and DeBose are the best things with their incredible singing skills.
ON. GOD. At All Costs was an incredible duet. You can see the twisted view Magnifico has and the pure view Asha has even though they're singing the same lyrics so clearly thanks to the animation.
"a babysitter movie" is the perfect term for this kind of film. Not unpleasant, but most useful as something to put on to keep the kids distracted.
The only 2 songs the films gave us that I liked involved Pine, just saying...😂
i agree @@gRinchY-op5vr
Not even as a babysitter film. Im not gonna bore the kids to death. We watching dreamworks sinbad seven seas 😂
It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.
at the end of the day the short that this movie is tied to works as a 100 years celebration then this movie
Disney released their new Thanksgiving art and it was actually AI generated. Disney is going to die someday and yes, people are going to be sad, but others will be happy the place of huge mediocrity is gone
@@Salacobra oof honey do I have news for you. There was a time when only SIX. HUNDRED. PEOPLE. In total not just artists but all of it were in Walt Disney Animation Studios.
If Michael Eisner didn't kill the company, if Bob Chapek didn't kill it no one and nothing will. Why you think people will celebrate the end of a childhood era and the end of hundreds of thousands of jobs is beyond me. Especially in this economy.
I hope Disney can start changing things up again but I worry they're basically becoming the Sears of animation, an institution that was so powerful it bent American culture to its will throughout the 20th century only to calcify once it started resting on the laurels of its past successes and then collapsing in the face of newer, more dynamic competition.
OTHER DISNEY'S DISASTER.
Wish looks so hurried. Like they didn’t take time to make it 💀
That's kinda harsh
@@SobbleWobble13
But true...
Apparently according to a tweet of someone who worked on it, this movie's been a case of corporate meddling and time constraints at its worst. Seems more like being the encapsulation of a post Tangled Disney movie rather than its own thing to the point I know Disney Junior shows with better potential
I wouldn't go that far. The animation is great, but compared to masterpieces like the two Spiderverses, the last wish, and TMNT, it looks boring.
There's a little twinge of SOMETHING burried under here, some kind of art style is lying beneath the rest of this movie's generic Disney since 2010 ass visuals.
But no. They didn't bother honing in on that at all. And well... the result speaks for itself... in a very non-individualistic voice might I add.
Do you know Walt Disney himself, and the company itself through 2010, would allow the writers MONTHS to work out the stories? Walt once threw out six months worth of work by his storyboard artists/writers when it became apparent to them and him the direction of the film wasn't working. (Pinocchio was delayed because they weren't happy with the character design). A writer on Toy Story 3 took six weeks to unknot a story problem and everyone was cool with that and liked his solution. Now, things are rushed through to feed the content pipeline and there's no time given to put something aside, ponder it, and rework it if necessary.
Replace Wish with a Sofia the first movie, what you think
will you stop posting this? i see this comment EVERYWHERE. just cause you don't like a movie doesn't always mean there wasn't hard work and love put into it. this movie was in production since 2018! lay off
Did you comment this on another video?
I read this comment yesterday from someone else. Do you just have it in your notepad on your phone or something? Lmao. Wild.
dude I've seen you paste this on every Wish review. PLEASE be a bit more creative in your comments. Don't post the same comment on EVERY video for them likes; it's lazy. Maybe you yourself should've given this as much thought as Disney gave its scripts.
I think the movie would've been way better in 2D and it feels like the art style is less of a creative choice and more of a financial one. Fitting for modern disney.
You can story is not good
Dude, even if it was 2D, we'd end up with a basic film. Style ain't got nothing to do with that.
Making it 2D would have helped nothing. Instead of crappy 3D movie we would have gotten a crappy 2D movie.
@@Guy-cb1oh more like a crappy 2D/3D film hybrid
The animation style isn’t the problem, the story and characters are the problem.
Really makes you look back at old Disney and realize how low they've fallen in the past century. Artists would be given paid trips to foreign countries to study the geography, culture, and people to draw inspiration. Writers would have workshops that would last months to read and research in order to get their own inspiration. And all the teams would work together in order to make sure they got a good product leading to them to become the front runner in American animation. Nowadays? They lay off half their artists and rely on AI to shodily write their scripts.
Was it actually Ai?
@@nelonwa7754 just hear the songs lmao
they did all this with moana. it's sad how recent & quick their downfall has been
@@indiesunflowers Encanto too
@@dutiestcorgi8951The demo version of At All Costs is very telling. Promise is replaced with love you and there's a wow right before Asha's verse. Like it was supposed to be a love duet. And it would have been an instant classic.
But to leave it so totally unchanged from the demo makes the song awkward and disconnected. It's the epitome of laziness. And I... I cannot stand it anymore! I don't want to hate Wish, but to see it as the ultimate example of how far Disney has fallen makes me very sad.
Disney had so many ideas with this (Star was a shapeshifter that developed a relationship with Asha, The Evil Royal couple, 2D to the attempts of 2.5 design) and they ended up getting rid of anything to make it more memorable. We've had so many good examples if successful 2.5 animated film, some from just this year, and it's sad seeing this film ment to celebrate a century of magic ended up so mid.
Honestly I get why they scrapped the star shapeshifting idea. Can't say the same for the villain couple
They should have stuck with the former because we haven't seen like that in a while from Disney, actually, and with it being instead of the girl, the guy, who ends up having to leave and her brokenhearted but also ready for the future? THAT'D HAVE BEEN A GREAT BITTERSWEET ENDING AFTER DEALING WITH A LITERAL EVIL POWERCOUPLE. @@hoesmad8207
A shapeshifter developing relationship with the MC? Wow that's sounds fresh coming out from Disney-
*Raya and The Last Dragon appears*
A shapeshifter developing relationship with the MC? Wow that's sounds fresh coming out from Disney-
*Raya and The Last Dragon appears*
A shapeshifter developing relationship with the MC? Wow that's sounds fresh coming out from Disney-
*Raya and The Last Dragon appears*
You know what annoys me most about twist villain it's the fact most writers think a twist villain needs to be the main villain. For once I would like to a see a Disney movie where a side character turns out to be a twist villain and is working for the main villain.
They sort of did that in the Rescue Rangers movie, and the twist villain ended up being way better than the main villain. xD
I mean they kinda did something like that? Spoilers
In this movie one of Asha’s friends is revealed to have sold her out to Magnifico in exchange for getting his wish granted, and Magnifico turns him into his personal brainwashed knight.
Just clarify when I say a twist villain that is a side character I meant a twist villain who becomes the second in command next to the main villain and who has a personal history with the main villain. I think Thunder Cats 2011 is one of the best example of this type of villain.
Home on the Range did this thing (even if it's considered one of Disney's worst).
@@cartoonishidealism582though there's where their twist stops, in their attempt to betray the heroes for personal gain, the villain ended up betraying them back, and reducing them to just one of his personal pawns
What's utterly devastating is that the initial idea for Wish sounds perfect for a 100th anniversary film. Star was going to be a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion between Peter Pan and the Genie, he was going to be Asha's love interest, and the king and queen were going to be an evil couple. That could have been amazing, it was right there... and Disney didn't do it.
Heck, I'm so disappointed they didn't I'm going to write my own musical movie using that premise because it needs to exist in some form.
Be my fucking guest. I wanna see it too.
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
i miss when disney movies had romance
@@bittermiilkI miss when they had soul
Romance and a woman being evil in modern Disney? I don't think so.
Wish really feels like a Disney direct to video film that somehow ended up in theaters that just happens to have good animation.
Hell, Lion King 2 feels more theatrical than Wish.
This film should have released through Disney Plus.
@@valentinkambushev4968And that came out 25 years ago!
for real! this feels like a disney junior tv movie i’d be forced to watch with my siblings years ago 💀
I 'Wish" that Coyote vs Acme would be released in theaters
The fact that people actually FORGOT this film was even out really says a lot about Disney’s current state.
Like I DIDNT EVEN KNOW it was out till i saw this video
This film and a couple of the previous films looked really similar, I legit forgot they aren't the same film.
I did not even realise this existed until I got another video before this one about this movie
It's so bad it isn't even on pirating sites. Typically disney/pixar films appear a little after release in theaters. It's crappy cam footage. But it isn't there. It's been a month since it released. It isnt worth the effort.
@@XWierdThingsHappenX lmao
Man...I sure Wish this studio got its act together.
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Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
well if your so smart YOU help them get their act together
@@aidanbarnes4290lmao the fact that you tried to be cool here but failed miserably
@@aidanbarnes4290also its you’re*
I would love to have another Emperors New Groove kind of movie, the MC is actually evil and sees nothing wrong with it but they get humbled by being put in the same scenario as the ppl that they oppress and turns into a good person and in the end is not the one who benefits the most out of the meaning, extra points if they die at the end for the benefit of the many but no Disney is going to literally die on the hill they are currently on
From what I heard, one draft of the film had Magnifico as a prince who went through that exact story
Can't really recreate the perfection that was Emperor's New Groove tbh
Magnifico really doesn't seem that evil til he gets book possessed so I feel that literally could have been done to this movie with little effort. While Asha isn't malicious, she is a bit selfish and perhaps a little naive (being careful about what wishes to grant is a fair point and while not specified, I can't imagine that magic doesn't have either a significant time or energy cost that is rather limiting for someone who has to run a country, hence apprentice)
Oddly enough, this is the 1st disney film I heard NOTHING about before it came out. No trailers, no adds, no relatives mentioning it. My 1st exposure to it was someone grilling the shit out of the lyrics and the jankiest few shots in the trailer. I probably wouldn't watch it even if it was good but fuck I'm amazed noone was even talking about it.
I got tons of ads for it on CZcams, I never heard anything about it from anywhere else. The first time I saw an ad I assumed based off of the graphics that it was an ad for a mobile game.
I saw nothing about it until the trailer popped up in my feed from disney itself (I never watch trailers so I was actually really surprised) and I scrolled past then scrolled up and was looking at the thumbnail and I thought it looked boring so I scrolled away again then I felt bad for assuming and went back to watch it and yup it was boring lol. then at the END it was like 100 yr anniv!!!! and I was like huuuhhh?????? this is what youre going for???? and just clicked away. only other time Ive seen it mentioned was now when a bunch of commentary popped up so I assume its out now. I wont watch it but Ill look at reviews anyway
Strange world: am i a joke to you?
in Argentina we get a lot of trailers in TV
I got like, the first trailer ages ago, and then nothing. Until I ALSO saw someone grilling the music lol.
I didn't even realize it was out until I started seeing actual reviews in my reccomends after the music grilling video.
A Mid Disney Movie would have been a mid Disney Movie in the past. Nothing special. They have a lot of those. But this was supposed to be their 100-year anniversary. A testament to their greatest animated features. This just had to be something but it just wasn't. Couple that with everything else the company is failing at and you get another reason to laugh at Disney.
Disney had it all. But no... They just had to blow it up.
I will never not be mad that I wanted Magnifico to have a redemption arc after I left the theater, and that was my main takeaway. That was it. They had Ariana DeBose!! How do you mess that up!! She deserves better!!
There was so much in this that felt like a by the numbers checklist. Argument with a family member leading into the I want song? Check. Dead parent that’s literally only mentioned twice? Check. Talking unnecessary animal sidekick? Check. Quirky protagonist? Check. A shit ton of comedic relief side characters based after characters from the original Disney Princess movie? Check. Every Disney cameo/reference fucking IMAGINABLE? Check check check. It didn’t feel like it’s own movie at all - it felt like a cameo celebration with a movie crammed into the cracks in between the 100 years milestone. Best part was Chris Pine villain, otherwise wow. I’m sad this came out the way it did.
Also ngl the opening number was just a shittier version of Family Madrigal which just made me love Encanto more.
I got a little hyped when the Queen said she wanted to bring him back from whatever madness has overtaken him by abusing forbidden magic, cause they sort of treated it like a drug addiction but then... nope they read a book that just says he's fucked forever and no one even cares.
@@SaiScribblesMY EXACT THOUGHTSS it was clearly stated that the magic was addicting but they locked him up anyway? great message for your audience😒 idk ig it was just lazy writing
I was like if you didnt wat to redeem him have him kill the queen. Cus he didnt do anything unforgivable yeah crushing dreams sucks but university teachers do that to me everyday and no one is locking them up in the dungeons XD. I liked the movie but it was bittersweet cus I felt like it was too rushed, it didnt feel like the ending was a climax at all and there were so many ways to flesh out the characters more and make it more impactful... so yeah I was kinda sad at the direction they took but I had fun so thats a plus.
@SaiScribbles the fact that they just believe the evil book and don't think that maybe, an evil book could LIE and just give up on Magnifico is....strange
The movie isn't out yet in my country but based on the reviews I've seen I definitely agree with you. He deserves a second chance!
Others have said it before and I’ll say it again here:
_Wish_ feels like the writers fed every single Disney animated film to an algorithm and told it to sum them all up in just one script. It’s had a very been-there-done-that feel since its first announcement.
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
"Raphael's Final Act" being the best Disney Villain Song in 2023 is honestly well-deserved.
i genuinely feel we've been spoiled by great movies in the past few years and it makes it so easy to see when a movie is half assed like this one
Pedir calidad en un producto que tu estas pagando, es lo correcto ya que ellos no te estan haciendo un favor, ellos estan haciendo un trabajo
Or more specifically people want good stuff and their standards are increasing because of shitty movies.
@@georgemeyers7172honestly I think streaming is what has raised the standards. People are more picky about what they should spend their money on at the cinema
@@isabellek-q3183 could also take the opposite away, throug streaming we saw more bad things and are done with it.
I think both hold true. We see more and more movies, shows, and what not. We get easier access. So we see more bad stuff, which we can call out easier. And we see more good stuff, which raises the bar.
@@isabellek-q3183 They'll also picky on what platforms they pick as well. So many of them.
As soon as you say the movie is okay, I remembered what someone said from their video review of Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, which was "Mediocre is not acceptable anymore". It's a bold statement but a true one considering how animated movies have been presented over this last decade or so with a minority of really good ideas actually being well received.
This movie and Ruby gillman are all mid.
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
@@howellaboutno9500 you really copy pasted this everywhere didn't you?
I mean you're not wrong but just saying, we got it already.
If you want to see a watercolor movie that makes every frame look like a painting, please see Wolfwalkers. That movie is a hidden gem.
I have. It's amazing. Everything Cartoon Saloon does is a gem
I was thinking of that also! Anyways, Disney should really have taken the Wolfwalkers style instead of the Spider-verse, because it’s more cooler and beautiful than Disney’s 2d films but still they’re still classics. If only they would taken that route and make the story a bit better, I’ll give wish a 10/10 but for now it’s a 5/10.
And once you see the concept artbook of Wish that had actual love interest for Asha, the Star being an actual twink, and the queen was suppose to be a villain with Magnifico, a villain couple, it just makes us wish that should have been the 100th movie.
Yes 🥲
Eh. I don’t even know if that would have saved it.
More than what we got now, that's for sure.@@cartoonishidealism582
Just that concept alone probably could have saved this movie however, the plot should have been completely re written , and it should have been 2d animated. The music should have been written by Alan menkan or someone who worked on the classic renaissance era movies songs.
I like the part where she said "Its wishing time" and wished all over the place
that was my favorite part
Truly one of the movies of time
You made me realize, the characters are not textured ! That has to be one of the reasons they don't look finished ! Their clothed don't have cloth texture on them, some items have a little of drawn textures through lines, but disney has made such good texture in Frozen 2 for exemple (the clothes are incredible) that here everything is smooth :o When looking closely it's like lookking at an old 3d movie !
Rather than learning from Encanto’s success…
They just continue repeating their own stupid mistakes.
I wish the art style was the same as Klaus from Netflix. Love how it is 2D art but has a light 3D feel to it that gives it such uniqueness and still minimal detail but great execution. I think if they went with that style the film would have been more entertaining
Then again, it'd be even sadder to have such a pretty and unique artstyle go to waste on a bland story
I literally just watched Klaus yesterday and it was AMAZING. Shocked I've never heard of it before. Really upsets me we don't get movies like that anymore. All people want is compelling characters and a good story. Doesn't even have to be a complex story or have deep themes.
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
@@peeblekitty5780literally
i think for the art direction it would've looked a lot better if disney would've committed to the painting look. if they really wanted it to fit, they either should've just made a 2D movie or should've taken a similar approach to what was done with arcane (yes the league of legends series). or even taking notes from the spiderverse movies, i'm sure disney could've made it work somehow if they cared more about the movie.
I thought this movie didn't look the best. Funnily enough, and this is counterintuitive to how it normally is, but I thought the movie looked better in the night shots than during the day. The day shots really exposed how meh the style is.
Given that Puss n Boots: The Last Wish also had a painterly look, it proves it can be done if there’s any kind of thought process put behind it, but I have a feeling Disney put another unreasonable deadline in the movie to make the thanksgiving 100 celebration, which ended up giving us a half finished product by the end.
@@WobsideI’m writing my graduate thesis about the spiderverse animation and I was initially quite interested when I heard that Disney’s new movie will have unique animation style inspired by illustrations for children’s books (when last Puss in Boots movie came out my friend had to listen to me ranting about every single visual thing and technique they used for hours on end) but then.. I saw the film. The animation doesn’t look bad, honestly, and I’m obviously not gonna blame the animators for the half-done look, but yeah… a bit underwhelming and disappointing considering it’s their 100 years celebration…
Fun fact, Tangled’s art style and medium was supposed to actually be like a moving watercolor painting like The Swing for example, but then they went with typical CGI instead. Wish should have ABSOLUTELY gone with what Tangled was going for.
@@nevermind9835tbh the movie looks more like they were originally going for a typical Tangled style like they always do, but execs wanted to capitalize on the 2D/3D trend, but didn't want to spend any extra dime or time on the animators for them achieve such results, and yet the movie still costed a lot to produce despite the end result, like most recent Disney films
“You could trouble the leads from Tangled into Frozen and no one would question it from a distance…”
The fact that the leads from Tangled can actually be spotted in Frozen 1 makes this statement so much funnier 😂
This movie definitely feels unfinished even with lyrics to songs. My favorite song is just “What We Know Now” but that’s because I enjoy songs that I can relate to my own ocs. But even some parts of that song feel odd and it feels like some lyrics are missing. My favorite part of the song is when the queen joins in and tbh that did hit hard but the rest still feels odd
Yeah, that was the one song i actually liked
I wish it didnt end it’s lyrics with the word “and”, it just doesnt sound good at all 😭
I liked that song but my favourite was the one she sang with the villain guy. Every other song was kinda shit
@@nelonwa7754 Same! The princess/villain duet was the only song I'd listen to again. Some of the others were _fine_ or even okay, like What We Know Now, but not more than that.
Wish feels like if AI got trained on all Disney movies to make the most accurate approximation with anniversary flavour.
Saw the potential for a sexy villainous couple and they scrapped it. Like sexy villainous couples are ICONIC. Did they not take note of the Briarwoods?
And the fact that the star could’ve been a shapeshifting prince??? 😭😭😭 missed opportunities all around.
THE animation studio releasing such an nothing film for the 100th anniversary is truly one of the saddest things I had ever seem.
Especially when Netflix, Illumnation and Sony Animation are doing a lot better
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
well if your so smart YOU make a better film!
@@aidanbarnes4290 people don't need to know how to make a movie to know that a movie is bad, the viewer's opinion matters too yk
true but judging how people run it isn't gonna make it better try putting yourself in their shoes@@Just_A_Rando29
A lot of people will say "oh it's Disney fatigue" but this is far from the first time in the company's history we get yearly or near yearly releases. Let's look at the Renaissance films.
The Little Mermaid (1989), The Rescuers Down Under (1990), Beauty and the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992), The Lion King (1994), Pocahontas (1995), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996), Hercules (1997), Mulan (1998), and Tarzan (1999).
That is one movie released almost every year. And all of them were bangers. So this whole misconception people have of "oh we need Disney to wait" is kind of out of nowhere. Yes back during the time he was alive, Walt demanded excellence from his writers and would throw out whole screenplays if he thought they weren't up to standard. But clearly, once they got out of their funk after he died, the Walt Disney Company, hit their STRIDE in the 90s. They would also have a few good movies in the 2000s, with Brother Bear and Treasure Planet, but the 2000s really nearly killed the studio with the late 2000s being where we enter the Revival Era.
Let's look at the ones from the *Revival Era.* Bolt (2008), The Princess and the Frog (2009), Tangled (2010), Winnie the Pooh (2011), Wreck-It Ralph (2012), Frozen (2013), Big Hero 6 (2014), Zootopia (2016), Moana (2016), Ralph Breaks the Internet (2018), Frozen II (2019), Raya and the Last Dragon (2021), Encanto (2021), and Strange World (2022). We even had two films that were bangers in 2016 in Zootopia and Moana. I think where the downslide happened, was going back to the sequels. Frozen II and Ralph Breaks the Internet started the trend of "oh huh Disney seems to be losing its touch." with the one exception being Encanto.
Disney is no stranger to highs and lows. Remember every company even DreamWorks has these dips and peaks. Disney right now, is in a dip. But this shouldn't be surprising to anyone who has actually studied the company's history. And that's another major problem I've noticed when it comes to talking about films from recent Disney; too often people seem to still EXPECT Disney to break the mold as they used to. But when there are so many other players in the game, I'm honestly not surprised that Disney doesn't seem, up to par. But that doesn't make Disney LAZY; just looking at Wish's animation style you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into making this living watercolor film. It's certainly different from Spider-Verse of Mutant Mayhem.
In FACT, we should all be GLAD that Disney has INSPIRED these other companies to step up their game. Because at one point in time, if you couldn't beat Disney, you did exactly what they did. And people hated it. So I'm all for the diversity in animation. One day, Disney will be back on their a game. For now, I'm gonna look towards the past with fondness, and the future with hope because things certainly can't get as bad as they were in the early to mid 2000s when there were only 600 people working in Walt Disney Animation Studios.
Also yeah Wish is going to get a 5/10 from me; just average.
I agree. Though I personally think that Wish is a decent movie on its own, but considering this supposedly meant to tie into Disney’s 100th Anniversary, it left me wanting more.
@@pennysanchez7656 agree and I think that's where we see a LOT more criticism on this movie than we normally would. I think Once Upon A Studio does a much better job celebrating Disney's past. The good, AND the bad. Cause they had GOD DAMN BLACK CAULDRON CHARACTERS repped in it. And seeing Jim Hawkins fly through the halls with Sisu was just magical and had me grinning like an idiot. THAT felt extra special considering the company set up Treasure Planet to outright fail considering what the film was going up against when it came out.
I do generally agree with this assessment. My fear, however, is that, should this film end up losing money at the box office (it's somewhat up in the air as to whether or not it will), the trigger-happy response from up top is gonna be "let's lay off a third of our existing staff, force them to mostly churn out sequels, and demote the animated output in marketing priority." Because Hollywood is just anything but fair in this day and age.
@@toon4thoughtdoesn't matter, they are making frozen 3 AND 4, they don't need to do actual hardwork to make money
@@hoesmad8207I do think the franchise helps give yourself a safety net so to speak. Like how every person should have rainy day money. So that's why they do sequels. Then if an original movie doesn't do so well they have that to fall on
It felt like a short film with how quick they hopped from one to the next (example of cutting from Magnifico being pissed then to Asha with her family, I honestly thought she was having a nightmare of being captured but nope), and not build upon or give enough breathing moments for the characters relations to grow more for us to care fully. Magnifico would've been great if they went all out on his transition to further evil, and genuinely leave an impact on the cast like previous classic villains have done to further push, "Oh shit, they're not just bark." When it comes to their actions. He took the wishes but in the end it lost impact and at most he done was cause depression and be a dick.
I’m so glad it wasn’t just me who felt it was choppy! the scene where her grandfather yelled at her and she runs away was so random!?? and the abruptness of “at all costs” despite it being one of the best songs of the movie it just felt so out of place wasnt this a job interview!?? the songs also gave no breathing room there was like 3 in the first half hour.
@@lilac3266But most Disney films have 3 or more songs in the first 30 minutes. Beauty and the beast, Mulan, the little mermaid, Tarzan, frozen 1 and 2, etc
@@kirbystar7474 idk they always felt better paced wish was just throwing them at you
@@lilac3266 The songs fit though. At all costs is supposed to make you and Asha feel secure with the king until the reveal after.
@@kirbystar7474 I felt it was abrupt they went from “nobody is allowed in my study” to here I’m gonna show you all the wishes and duet. It would make sense if asha had a previous relationship with him like they already knew eachother.
Bro the lighting on Murder Drones, a show created by a small indie team FOR FREE ON CZcams looks better than this 200 MILLION DOLLAR DISNEY FILM
What planet are we living on 💀
Not to mention The Digital Circus getting 100 million views in one month too and having good jokes and animation.
And Lackadaisy.
And Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss
Also yes, other shows too but for example Lackadaisy and Helluva Boss are 2D animated, and thus a bit harder to compare.
A planet where those small indie teams care and show more passion about their projects, then the big companies out there smh
I love how we all wanted a new evil villain, but by the end of the movie this guy deserved a redemption 🫡
I've seen a few pages of what Asha looked like in the art book on Tiktok before the movie came out and MAN... Her designs then looked SO MUCH more lively and interesting than what we got with the finished product.
I like the movie, but it felt...safe. Like it wasn't trying to try something new or subvert your expectations in any way. I honestly feel like if it wasn't advertised to celebrate Disney's 100th anniversary, it'd just fall in the background. It's not bad, but not fantastic either. 😐
Fully agree with this as it felt very okay but lacks the charm and felt like a cop out especially with the same cliches and all. It just didn’t have the “magic” as most Disney films had.
As far as celebrations go, the movie feels like a bland and undecorated cake and a gift card. Like sure cake is good and the gift card could be to a place you like; but for a celebration you always expect a bit more effort than that.
More like a last minute bought hostess cupcake and a lighted match instead of a candle.
The animation style was also pretty trippy. It felt like they were trying to mimic the Spider-Verse animation style other companies have been doing, but it just wasn’t working for them lol
the problem was that they only went halfway with the idea, they didn't go all in like those other movies
This is the first time i think Sarcastic Chorus is being too nice
At times it felt like they were checking boxes rather than making a movie.
I will say from what I've seen- it's a case where mediocrity is kind of more disappointing then just being bad.
Especially because I think our lead and the villan both were a good start and they really deserved a better story. I love Asha and Magnifico's designs. The artstyle is a good direction and I feel like all it really needed is a tiny bit more polish to be something great.
Also because I saw comments about this- I think Magnifico feels like two concepts haphazardly smashed together because that's what he is. In the early stages he was ment to be the part of an evil duo and I think honestly that would unload some of this strange mischaracterisation if he could just be a funny evil fail-husband to his gatkeep girlboss Maleficient-esque queen, who could be the one creating the more omnious villanous presence.
You know you did something wrong when literally a less than 10 minute short does a better job at being a proper 100 year anniversary tribute than your full length animated film
This film felt like what Disney believed the fans wanted by crossing off a bunch of boxes on a checklist without putting much effort into any of the tasks on the list.
Evidently, this movie was intended to be fully 2D, but they gave up on it when they found it "too complicated for the camera angles" that they wanted to use. Which is...huh? What do you mean? I've seen elsewhere online (that I can't confirm) that Disney has basically let go of the "old guard" of 2D artists and has forgotten/lost the ability to replicate that 2D style, which (if true) is really freaking sad.
who said that in returning to 2D they MUST copy their old style.... gosh they just need to try something new again! 0:05
If someone told me AI was used to make this movie I would not be surprised.
The art style kinda reminds me of Nemona but like, in a bad way? Nemona had such bright colours and an amazing mix between 2d & 3d the deapth was there in every gesture. In stark contrast this is so…flat. Both in colours and story.
Good job Disney! You never fail to disappoint these days! Especially on your 100 anniversary, nonetheless.
9:30: It's, kind of, the same problem Stella has in Helluva Boss. That "not quite hammy/hateful enough to be fun, but not subtle enough to be tragic/empathetic" problem.
And not realistic enough to be taken seriously.
My sister and I were extremely excited to see this movie until we heard the soundtrack. Like, I’m glad we finally have a genuine villain after who knows how long but listening to his villain song was really disappointing.
SAME I went to see this with my dad I literally was pissed 💀
Reminder, the only thing that speaks to corporations is money. If you're sick of seeing shit like this being pumped out, don't go watch it! Don't give them your money! Granted, you'd think they'd realize by now given the amount of flops they had, but keep pushing. Eventually, the money will run out. And hell, maybe they'll go out of business and give rise to other animation studies. Disney has an insane monopoly at this point. Support other studios who make things you want to see, like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish!
This was strangely enough the one new Disney movie I want to see a redeem villain or at least a tragic one,after I saw this movie because of how they set him up in beginning. I also thought that his wish was his wife rather that be she be real or to save her life in the past and that he was trying get the Star and stop the main character from fear of losing her. I still had fun with him and thought Chris pine did a good job but I can’t help but see the missed opportunities.
I wish Modern Disney was like Classic Disney
The fact that Once Upon a Studio was the far better 100 year anniversary experience than an theatrical production, says a lot.
Magnifico felt like three characters in one. A tragic villain who believes he knows what is best for Rosas, and stoops to villainous lengths to ensure it is safe. An egotistical, manipulative bastard who only cares about himself and making himself look good. An unhinged monster who is so cartoonishly evil that he feels more like a parody of classic Disney villains than an actual Disney villain.
The film keeps switching between these wildly and without proper context.
This film feels like a dreamwork 2018 film rather than a disney
Baldur's Gate has very much ruined me. Whenever I hear someone calling something "fine" repeatedly, Gale's little outburst about the night with him being fine starts playing in my mind: "Fine is fine. Nobody weeps because the weather is fine. No monarchs were overthrown because their ruling was fine. No artworks were burned because they were not masterpieces but merely fine."
On a fundamental level even in mediocrity of "this style didn't quite work" I'll still be glad Disney tried something different from the style of their previous movies. Like you said, if anything the issue was that they didn't quite commit to it enough and this could have worked really well with 2D painted styled backgrounds and 2D characters. I want that to be "oh, maybe we'll try that next time" and not "oh, this didn't work, let's never try to innovate the art style again."
I just recently started re-watching Tarzan, which came out in 1999 by the way, and it still holds up because of its characters and themes. As a protagonist, Tarzan is chalk full of flaws, but you can see where they came from. A place of ignorance and fascination. So to hear that ANOTHER Disney protagonist is just being good for goodness sakes pisses me off so much. There's nothing wrong with a good natured character but for god sakes, CHALLENGE them with SOMETHING.....
First time I see someone point out that the animation feels unfinished. Personally I had not even noticed they were going for an stylized look. Maybe because when I think "stylized" I am now picturing something along the lines of Spiderverse, The Bad Guys or Mutant Mayhem, which are all films commited to a style! The animation from wish does not commit to the picture book style, making it just look, unpolished.
And not to be the guy who says "This would have been better in 2D", I genuinely believe you can do unique things with cgi (look at the name drops from above), but I do genuinely think the storybook style could have worked much better in 2d animation (who would've guessed! 2d animation captures 2d art better), think of stuff like Over the garden wall, whose backgrounds fully capture that fable book vibes, or the Cartoon Saloon studio films where every shot looks like a mural.
This film’s artstyle feels like a jar of colored sand, where you have the storybook style on the bottom, the typical 3D artstyle in the middle, and Spiderverse aesthetic on the top. Wish is as if you shook that jar and it became that muddy gray color after you shake the jar.
You can also apply that to the storytelling, but I’m too lazy to make an analogy for that one.
The story is just a sandwich with the most cheap and artificial ingredients at the top with leftovers from 20 years ago stuffed in at the bottom.
I am SO compelled to recreate this story into a twisted tale like it was MEANT to be: a protagonist and star in the human form vs a maniacal magic couple. Watch me do it one day lol 😂❤
Edit: hey to that person who had this cool idea for the ending, if you’re still there could you tell me it again? I think my comment just magically disappeared and I didn’t see it haha 😂❤😅
Hey if it turned into reality be sure to let me know before anyone else XD
Love how plain they made the supposedly anniversary movie
The scene where you see him and Asha where they are singing in the beginning he is singing about protecting all of the wishes meanwhile she sees her grandfather's wish and literally no joke runs through all of the other wishes scattering them knocking them all over and only grabs her grandfather's wish singing about only preserving his wish.
It's interesting to see the "hero" act like a villain as usually it's the villain who will smash wishes but it's a sharp contrast to see the villain protecting and caring for every wish and the hero trodding underfoot everyone else's wish to serve her own ends.
She is a villain end of story
"I want to save everyone's wishes!"
*sees granpa's wish
"Nvm, I only care about this one"
I mean she literally says she’s going back after all the other wishes after she returned her grandfather’s wish
You could say, that the art style looks like it came from Wish.
😂😂
Unfinished is the key here. The story, the animation, even the song lyrics. Wish is completely creatively compromised.
Personally I would have preferred the first concept the movie had. We could have gotten a magical star boy, a heroine saving the and a villain couple. A VILLAIN COUPLE!!! I need my magic star boy and married villains! It would have been great!!
"I'm a habitual hater of speaking animal sidekick"
-The guy who voices a magical girl's speaking cat
It seems like they decided to give it the storybook look halfway through production and didn't commit to the look.
This was one of the few Disney movies I wished the villain had a redemption in. And celebrating Disney’s anniversary, they and the perfect opportunity! Amaya could’ve given Magnifico the True Love’s Kiss to break him out of the dark Magic’s curse. True love conquers all, right? It would’ve been so perfect but they missed the opportunity
Yeah. It just didn’t feel like it was patient with itself. Scenes were either rushing to the next plot point, or the next joke. But there’s so many moments where we don’t get any build up, cause the film is aware it’s not telling its story for the first time.
Like when the main character gets back home with grandpa’s wish, she doesn’t arrive and reveal anything, she’s already there with the goat doing a joke. The villain doesn’t menacingly approach, he’s already there and launching into his speech.
There’s just so little care to focus on the story and moments, that the turns and motivations feel rushed
I think the real problem for me when it comes to the animation is just the weird, almost blurry shading. It doesn’t like right, almost like they just took the models and put them in front of the backgrounds with minimal effort in shading or detailing. I’ve seen many 3D animated shows that look 2D (shows like dragon prince or wakfu are great examples of that) and I think if they really committed to that 2D 3D look, it would have looke really pleasing while combining the 2D animation Disney is iconic for and the more modern 3d animation. Instead, most of the shading just seems like someone blurred it way too much until it became basically a gradient with no real texture. The best looking scenes in my opinion are the ones with sharper, more obvious shading and the line art effect they added very prominent. Without that it just has the worst parts of 2d and 3d animation combined to make this kinda flat, unfinished looking style.
This is an okay film, but the fact it's meant to be the film that celebrates the 100 year anniversary of the WALT DISNEY COMPANY makes it worse than just being okay.
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The last true Disney Villain was Dr. Facillier and that's it.
I really hope WDAS management is able to take this moment to reassess how they're approaching their projects before corporate forces them to lay off even more people than they already have, cause they definitely still have a bunch of fantastic ideas in them that are able to win people over, and even this one has some clear glimmers of that (especially in the background paintings). But there's this itching feeling that *something* is mismanaging it all and, even though I enjoyed Wish on its own, it was also underwhelming enough that I can see why it's a bit of a sticking point for many.
I commented this on the cartoonshi video aswell, but it feels and definitely looks like a Disney juniors show and not a movie.
It has the same sorta “unfinished” feeling a lot of Disney animated shows have because they just dont have the budget. Its giving me Sofia the first vibes is what im saying.
I guess you could say this is Disney….from *wiiiiish…!*
Damn it, you’re right
Lmao
The movie visually is middle-of-the road, they tried to do something stylistic but were too afraid to do so, and it ended up making it look like a TV movie, it's not bad, but it's not that great either, like many people I felt I was watching Elena of Avalor or Princess Sophia, that's the level I thought this movie was.
It needs more polish, and I believe they didn't allow the artists to do so.
Puss in Boots 2 is what I believe they wanted to do, or even the Bad Guys, this story book aesthetic, but both movies took time to do so, and I believe they weren't given that time.
For story, I believe they are stuck, they are lacking someone like Howard Ashman to lead them to creativity, someone from the outside that is not Lin-Manuel Miranda, but someone that the higher ups give the actual creative freedom for them, to innovate, to take actual RISKS.
Wish is still playing safe and it shows.
I'm so mad because they wanted to have a romance between Asha and the wishing star AND there would've been an evil couple instead of just one big bad AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO GREAT
But apparently for them, a female main character getting a love interest = she's not strong or independent woman. Like seriously?! It's been years, if they want to make a nostalgic disney throwback movie they should bring back Disney princess and princes, BRING BACK COUPLES! the closest thing we get from a romance from Disney recently is Elemental, and it's pixar nit directly from Disney intself! And Disney used to do romance back then, it's their bread and butter, but now thry just avoid it as a pathetic attempt to please the woke audience...
@Annie-wy5mc PLEASE TELL ME THEY DIDNT ACTUALLY SAY THAT HER HAVING A LOVE INTEREST MEANT SHE'S NOT INDEPENDENT 😭
It's such a shame. If they had played into the tropes that made them good in the first place with the added modernization, it would've been good. A hero couple, a villain couple, two true loves battling? That shit would be awesome. And their idea of a "quirky" main character just for the sake of being quirky and "relatable" is so boring. The original "quirky" characters had actual reasons to act they way they were, not just because.
I'm really hoping they change soon because all these "safe" options they're choosing just to make as much money as they can from all audience groups is going to keep biting them in the ass.
Disney finally didn’t release another live action remake and it STILL bombed
How come this wasn't a Disney show, even if it was a Disney Junior one,because they have made great Disney Junior shows that could handle dark themes for the age group
honestly the only thing about the artstyle I love is the backgrounds which I like well enough but as soon as I see those odd 3D characters its over. Also those hands are out there reminding me of barbie hands but worse
I have a feeling that the "storybook watercolor look" is a PR spin for an executive who decided that stylized meant removing shaders or other settings
oh my god. you hit the nail on the head with the actors and a painted background analogy - that's what was bothering me and now I can't unsee it
My problem is even though Disney is definitely running out of ideas for unique franchises it’s not like Dreamworks, Illumination, and Sony are any better.
Dreamworks is milking Shrek.
Illumination is milking minions and the Mario movie making so much money is because it’s Mario.
Sony hasn’t made a good original movie since Mitchells because spiderverse is from a pre existing Ip so doesn’t count.
DreamWorks is milking Shrek? It's been over 10 years since the last Shrek movie. And there was another 10 year break between Puss in Boots 1 and 2. If any DreamWorks series was being milked right now, it would be Trolls.
@@helloill672 Disney waited over 10 years to make Toy Story 3 and almost ten years for Toy Story 4 yet people say they are milking them and the first 4 Shrek movies didn’t have much distance in release date. Trolls has only had 3 movies, 2 Christmas specials, and a mini tv show while Shrek has had multiple Halloween specials, 2 Christmas specials, a spin off show with puss in boots, two spin off movies, and now going to be 5 movies. Not saying anything about the quality I love the last wish but it’s true.
@@kirbystar7474 Toy Story also had multiple TV specials between Toy Story 3 and 4. I think people would've thought that they milking Toy Story with Toy Story 4, no matter how long it took them to release it.
@@helloill672 Then the same should be said for Shrek.
I also thought the animation style looked like a cheap, badly made version of the style used in, say, Puss in Boots 2
Amazing video as always! And yep the most 6/10 experience ever. You always deliver man. Unlike disney these days
‘Mario Galaxy’ must have been on their mood boards. Especially whenever scenes take place at night.
Bizarrely the art style reminds me of the earlier ‘Team Fortress 2’ trailers. The rendering lacks rim lighting but has occlusion. And for whatever reason shadows trend towards grey which is a mistake most amateur artists make. Maybe what I mean is desaturated, which is what studios are doing now to blend real footage with CGI which isn’t what this film is doing.
Even if this was 2D this wouldn’t be saved stylistically when the concept art, colour scripts and visual development are already beyond repair.
If they wanted the “story book look” they should have employed faux gouache or a chalk pastel appearance. Even the Spiderverse films look more like they’re painted because they’re trying to look like the painting app ‘Heavy Paint’.
“Hell is forever” is the best Disney song in a while, and it’s not even Disney😂
Its so weird Sony, who made the biggest blandest and soulless cashgrab with the Emoji movie, are now the current king of innovation in western animation while Disney is lagging behind.
From what I’m seeing in the movie’s clips, the lighting style looks as if you put a blending mode/filter over the character, which IS a way to shade 2D animation, but stuff like that was mostly done to save on time and resources. I feel like the cel shading they did for Nimona would’ve looked way better in this film.
This is a perfect film review, you break down everything to a level that anyone can understand and you don't let your emotions take over
Keep up the good work!
"this feels like an idea that should have been strangled in the crib earlier" - SC 2023