Palladium vs Platinum ULTIMATE Showdown

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  • čas přidán 6. 07. 2021
  • Platinum vs Palladium why is palladium so expensive and platinum so cheap? Is platinum undervalued? What is the difference between precious metals platinum and palladium? Why does palladium cost so much more but still is being used in cars catalytic converters instead of platinum in the auto industry? What makes Pd different from Pt?
    Why is palladium bullion bars more expensive than gold? What is platinum and palladium used for? Could platinum be squeezed like silver? Is palladium a better investment than platinum? What is the best investment gold vs silver vs platinum vs palladium? Rob Soltan discusses the differences between the noble platinum group precious metals.
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Komentáře • 154

  • @bounceeroo4545
    @bounceeroo4545 Před 3 lety +25

    I did not know that information about either of those metals, nor would I have ever known that info if not for this video. Looking forward to a Rhodium video. Thank you

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +7

      Happy it helped! Thank you for being here! 🙏

    • @Ian-bq7gp
      @Ian-bq7gp Před rokem +1

      Its fascinating. I worked with titanium. Its so hard.

  • @davemi00
    @davemi00 Před 3 lety +14

    Good discussion !
    A quick look @ the Atomic Tables lists elements from light to heavier.
    After 2008 when Platinum peaked @ $2k oz, it traded places with Palladium @ $325 oz +/-

  • @PeterKruseMusic
    @PeterKruseMusic Před 3 lety +24

    The bitcoin videos are good, but I love the precious metals videos. I'm not a bitcoin bug (yet).

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +4

      Thank you 🙏 will be doing a lot of metals videos in the near future 🦾😎

  • @silverlion5384
    @silverlion5384 Před 3 lety +21

    In a world where truth is paramount, platinum would be $5,000 an ounce. They lost control of Rhodium and palladium, platinum and silver is next.

    • @opa-00
      @opa-00 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Never silver haha

  • @ThePlatinumBeast
    @ThePlatinumBeast Před 3 lety +21

    Platinum eagle is $100 face value!

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +4

      Thank you for pointing that out, got too used to 20 Saints/Libs 😅 You are correct Platinum Eagle is in fact $100 FV 😎

  • @RedRedux
    @RedRedux Před 3 lety +17

    Lol I bought so much gold and silver the supplier made me a wholesale client 🤣

  • @ncapizza
    @ncapizza Před 3 lety +8

    Just picked up a 10 oz Platinum Bar....Love your channel keep making videos

  • @ChristopherAlexander22
    @ChristopherAlexander22 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you Rob, I loved this video! I learned so much that I didn’t know, it’s packed with info, going to have to listen multiple times and make some notes. Great work!

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for the support!! 🙏🙏

  • @davemi00
    @davemi00 Před 3 lety +5

    They’re also working on a Highly Efficient Aluminum Battery
    That’s also more Stable and Safe than rare and Volatile Lithium.

  • @theburmeseinvestor8272

    Thanks Rob,this is really informative,no one compare the details for these two metals like you as I ever seen.😊Really good job

  • @MrMonero
    @MrMonero Před 3 lety +2

    Mate what a great video. Honestly I watch quite a bit of your stuff but don’t comment too often. Instead of just hitting the like button I wanted to let you know I found this highly informative and have shared it with a few pals too.
    Great work 🤜🏼🪙

  • @williamtsol636
    @williamtsol636 Před 3 lety +15

    Great video !
    Finally somebody talking about the elephant in the room !
    👍

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you for the support William! 🦾😎

  • @izaakgutierrez2212
    @izaakgutierrez2212 Před 3 lety +7

    It’s about damn time you released this video lol. I’ve been thinking about palladium but wasn’t sure if it was a good investment or not. Btw if you can do more videos on precious metals that would be fantastic. I always look forward to your videos. I’ve learned more from you then I ever did in school. Thank you teacher Soltan 😎👍

  • @huemann7637
    @huemann7637 Před 3 lety +18

    Platinum makes silver feel like aluminum when you hold both at the same time.

  • @Bigsparky710
    @Bigsparky710 Před 2 lety

    I love your content buddy keep up the good work. This video was great.

  • @erichoffner9602
    @erichoffner9602 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Thanks for the info!

  • @kevintana4029
    @kevintana4029 Před 3 lety

    Great video bro!! Very informative thanks

  • @SHANEYSON
    @SHANEYSON Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the information on Platinum, which is very hard to find on any precious metals videos.

  • @user-jq8wr8ru2s
    @user-jq8wr8ru2s Před 3 lety +3

    Very educational video. Thank you. Learned a lot.

  • @kenmackenzie3803
    @kenmackenzie3803 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes finally a PM video!!

  • @Vacationtime247
    @Vacationtime247 Před 3 lety +3

    This is some really interesting information. One request if you would please. In your next video, can you show the size and width of different types of metals like you did with the platinum, palladium & Silver? Really found this video helpful. Would be neat to see the varies metals such as 10 oz Silver, Gold, Platinum, Palladium, Rhodium, Copper, Titanium, Aluminum, Iron, Brass, Zinc, Nickel or any others you may have. If I found this interesting I'm sure others would too.
    VT247

  • @GardenerEarthGuy
    @GardenerEarthGuy Před 3 lety +2

    When I wear my platnium necklace, for whatever reason analog clocks lose 3 minutes of time. My work truck and personal truck are both 3 minutes behind.
    On my ZSpray, that clock is also 3 minutes behind...
    There's more to platnium if you ask me.

  • @curt3494
    @curt3494 Před 2 lety

    40+ minute videos are what I want to watch. I'm always interested to hear an in depth dive into what other people think.

  • @mimik9193
    @mimik9193 Před 2 lety

    A very informative presentation. Thank you 😊

  • @williamvaughan1218
    @williamvaughan1218 Před rokem

    Thank you for explaining the questions I had. Could not find this info anywhere.

  • @RanielDiaz
    @RanielDiaz Před 2 lety

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @GeOl011919954
    @GeOl011919954 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing Rob 👍

  • @redflag4255
    @redflag4255 Před 3 lety +2

    Man I love this channel!

  • @MAX5WM
    @MAX5WM Před rokem

    I learned a lot watching this video. Thank you.

  • @fredericknewcomb6611
    @fredericknewcomb6611 Před 3 lety +5

    Great research and information Rob.
    I hope this is alright with you sir: To show support for your work, I thought I'd add a couple more details to the great info you've discussed here.
    Rob, I'd like to clarify that the 1 oz American Palladium Eagle Coin denomination is $25, as you stated. The 1 oz American Gold Eagle Coin denomination is $50, & the 1 oz American Platinum Eagle Coin denomination is $100.
    Palladium (Pd) vs Platinum (Pt)
    Melting Point:
    Pd: 1,554.9 Deg. C (2,830.82 Deg. F)
    Pt: 1,772.0 Deg. C (3,221.60 Deg. F)
    Density at Room Temperature
    Pd: 12.02 g/cubic cm
    Pt: 21.45 g/cubic cm
    Density Ratio at Room Temperature:
    Pd:Pt: 0.56037296:1
    Pt:Pd: 1.78452579:1
    Speed of Sound:
    Sound travels about 9.642857% faster through Pd , as compared to Pt.
    Pd: 3,070 m/s
    Pt: 2,800 m/s
    I like Silver & Platinum too, Rob...I did Smash the Like too.

    • @muddyriverdogz
      @muddyriverdogz Před rokem

      Palladium is a better material for most applications except for a little higher temp application.

  • @infusedpower
    @infusedpower Před 7 měsíci

    Very informative density of platinum amazing. The points you made about tungsten and gold density and how platinum is easy to confirm authenticity

  • @ThePlatinumBeast
    @ThePlatinumBeast Před 3 lety +3

    I am here for this!

  • @donaldwright6191
    @donaldwright6191 Před rokem

    I was looking at the psychology of PGMs but it’s also interesting to hear about the physical attributes

  • @firebirdbullion8123
    @firebirdbullion8123 Před 3 lety +3

    Love it when you show off the metal!!

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety

      🦾😎 Thank you for the support!

  • @christophermccormick8670

    Nice segment! Cheers🥃

  • @mrsebrub
    @mrsebrub Před 2 lety +3

    Fact: It takes TWICE as much Palladium then Platinum to get the same reaction.
    Fact: Platinum is required to produce Hydrogen Fuel Cells. And will go to the Moon 🌙!

  • @roostermoney5881
    @roostermoney5881 Před 3 lety +4

    I got 13 oz of palladium last year when it was around 1,950 a oz and 5 oz of platinum for 950

    • @Raeeban
      @Raeeban Před 2 měsíci

      Where did you get that

    • @roostermoney5881
      @roostermoney5881 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Raeeban Jm Bullion, they got their own app

  • @xB1GKILLERX
    @xB1GKILLERX Před 3 lety +2

    I need some platinum silver and gold are the only ones I been focusing and some digital asset dope video man

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety

      🦾😎 Thanks for being here John!

  • @brandonklosterman2978
    @brandonklosterman2978 Před rokem +1

    Isn't palladiums use in catalytic converters likely because platinum has historically been 4x more expensive? Now that platinum is 1/3 the price of palladium you better believe they will start switching back to platinum. It takes time for manufacturing facilities to retool and start using platinum again. They can't immediately switch out one for the other

  • @camilliazoorob7650
    @camilliazoorob7650 Před 3 lety

    Love your ranting and rambling it's the best

  • @MWinters777
    @MWinters777 Před 3 lety +5

    This was a fantastic video Rob! Thanks for all the research you put into these videos, I also believe that platinum is undervalued. At one time it was worth more than gold.Right now I am invested two thirds into silver and one third into platinum because silver is also undervalued and has so many uses.

  • @williamiannucci2740
    @williamiannucci2740 Před 3 lety +3

    Love hearing you speak son and don't ever apologize or say your rambling on,
    don't you realize the information you are giving is very important ? From your friend Bill 👍 Wish you were my son , and do you know what is more important and precious metals ? I'll say it and that is you and I don't care who hears. God bless you in Christ I pray with all my heart.

  • @davemi00
    @davemi00 Před 3 lety +7

    I love Iridium Spark Plugs - they Burn Cleaner
    and They Last up to 70k miles

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u Před rokem

      Next try ruthinium

    • @davemi00
      @davemi00 Před rokem +1

      @@user-qo3yy9nv1u 👍 Thanks ! I definitely will !!
      Just getting a licensed mechanic to install an Iridium spark plug is difficult enough. Lol, they scratch their heads in ignorance. I Appreciate this Upgrade, Ruthinium plugs appear to Outperform and Outlast Iridium plugs. Thanks again.

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u Před rokem +1

      @@davemi00 they shouldn't be. Im a diesel mechanic and I've used iridium plugs for years in my gas car. Iridium throws people off on their cost but I've gotten over 100k miles out of my last set in my car. I've noticed better milage with ruthinium though. To me I'd rather pay more for good plugs and my car just work. Being a mechanic I hate working on my own car so anything to increase service life im doing it.

  • @IsaacL87
    @IsaacL87 Před rokem

    Hi @Rob, thanks for the showdown on the 2 metals. I tried to find palladium bullion items on quite a few bullion websites, all of them indicate their palladium items as sold out. Do you know of any reputable bullion websites that still have palladium bullion in stock?

  • @Myscentsei
    @Myscentsei Před 3 lety +2

    Palladium 🇷🇺
    Platinum 🇿🇦
    Any questions?

  • @raymondc8697
    @raymondc8697 Před 2 lety +2

    I can't help but to think that the spot price of platinum is manipulated. If you try to buy some on ebay, you'll notice how little there is available there and how much over spot they're listed for. Not sure why palladium would be so much higher than platinum!

  • @tao4409
    @tao4409 Před 3 lety +1

    Great point on the melting point of these metals. I pour silver and that lower temperature is still high enough to be quite dangerous. I'm not sure I'd want to mess with molten platinum OR palladium without some expensive equipment.

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +1

      🦾😎 I agree. Would be interested in the type of equipment needed for the higher temp PMs will research that as well, thank you for bringing that up 🙏

    • @tao4409
      @tao4409 Před 3 lety

      @@RobSoltan The max on my melter is copper, which is a 1983 F melting point. Beyond that I would need a much higher quality melter, and a better place for pouring than my garage floor. Incidentally, the rule with molten metals is: If it isn't too hot to touch, consider it WET. ANY moisture in contact with molten metals is a steam explosion and burns/fire. Dangerous hobby. Peace. :)

  • @HR-qc8tn
    @HR-qc8tn Před 2 lety +2

    The density is not exactly the same, gold is 19.3 and tungsten is 19.25, but if you round it up to one decimal they are the same.

  • @MatlasX
    @MatlasX Před 3 lety

    I was able to get 20 oz of PT last April when it was bouncing around $600/toz. With the premium, I paid about $825/toz. At the very least, it was two oz of PT to buy one oz of AU last year. If it just goes to parity with AU, I would be happy, but if it goes near its historical value of two oz AU for one oz of PT, then I will be extremely pleased.

  • @paddyohenry6428
    @paddyohenry6428 Před 3 lety +2

    Isn't platinum used mainly for diesel engines while palladium is used for gasoline engines?

  • @jonkailany333
    @jonkailany333 Před 2 lety +1

    Ramble on, sir. I’m listening 🤙

  • @mrmc2465
    @mrmc2465 Před 3 lety

    i haven't really seen a platinum to housing ratio video anywhere, what do you think an average house would be in platinum oz?(in a favorable platinum environment?)

  • @muathabukhader8110
    @muathabukhader8110 Před 2 lety

    Hi Mr! 😊
    Do you think the rise of palladium in the coming months? Another question please. Do you think investing in palladium is a good thing, especially after it has come down now?
    Thank you

  • @silverlion5384
    @silverlion5384 Před 3 lety +2

    1 oz Gold eagle is $50. 1 oz Pati umbrella eagle is $100. I agree with your perspective on silver and platinum.

  • @fluggaenkoecchicebolsen
    @fluggaenkoecchicebolsen Před rokem +3

    With the rise of electric cars, palladium will be a terrible investment

  • @gkprivate433
    @gkprivate433 Před 3 lety

    do not forget Ruthenium. We used that as a catalyst to decompose Hydrazine and make lots of high pressure gas

  • @JIanniello0
    @JIanniello0 Před rokem +1

    The reason gold makes a better currency is because platinum is tied to the industrial economy. While I agree with a lot of what you say, I don’t think it’s a good time to bet on platinum…

  • @_yeahbaby
    @_yeahbaby Před 11 dny

    earned my subscribe!

  • @beastmodeforever86
    @beastmodeforever86 Před 3 lety

    4:53 so im not sure on that point of yours with palladium being used because it's twice as dense and you get twice as much of it but palladium is three times the cost of platinum so hypothetically you would actually have three times the amount just by using Platinum instead of palladium.
    Great video

  • @Soldier36010
    @Soldier36010 Před 3 lety +1

    what do you think about Major Precious Metals? the biggest unexplored palladium deposit outside south africa and russia

  • @alanlim7068
    @alanlim7068 Před rokem

    how much is the weight to make a mens ring for Palladium, i keep searching for answer and i could'nt find one in youtube

  • @jeffrobinson1975
    @jeffrobinson1975 Před 2 lety

    Sorry if I missed you mentioning in the video, but do you stack Rhodium at all?

  • @frakstack7342
    @frakstack7342 Před 3 lety +3

    Do you see Platinum and Palladium as cyclical in their in their industrial uses? To me, being that both can be used interchangeably in some industries, it seems that there will come a point where the palladium becomes too expensive, and then they will move back into platinum. I see their prices, essentially flip flopping over time. Your thoughts?

    • @muddyriverdogz
      @muddyriverdogz Před rokem +1

      Palladium is slightly more conductive, easier to melt, and lighter and yet does everything platinum can do. That makes it more attractive to industry. I think this guy is a little bias to platinum in his description of the 2 metals.

  • @BilalBilal-vi5yr
    @BilalBilal-vi5yr Před rokem +1

    Does Platinum black or dull color like Silver?

  • @juanolague4265
    @juanolague4265 Před 7 měsíci

    THANKS THANKS !!!❤

  • @gkprivate433
    @gkprivate433 Před 3 lety +1

    Big rush on for Palladium because of recent secret Cold Fusion breakthrough..... NOT!

  • @SD._
    @SD._ Před rokem

    What is the weight of those Platinum bars in this video?

  • @benjaminkful
    @benjaminkful Před 11 měsíci

    Plantnium is all over Africa my friend not just south africa,South Africa may have alot but most other countries have also

  • @jameseverett4144
    @jameseverett4144 Před rokem

    Platinums durability also adds to it appeal for circulating coin.

  • @christopherloy9414
    @christopherloy9414 Před rokem

    Which one is softer

  • @silvergameofthrone
    @silvergameofthrone Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting to invest into pl palladium

  • @goldinoesconde7919
    @goldinoesconde7919 Před 9 měsíci

    were we can sale the P-P-2288 we deg it and it scale 72 kilos.platinum palladium that what it mean of the letter P-P- sign indicate on it.

  • @braydenmandavia4185
    @braydenmandavia4185 Před 10 měsíci +2

    6:39 Rhenium has a density of 21.04 g/cm^3 and platinum is about 21.3, so Rhenium could be used to counterfeit platinum potentially

  • @YommiOfficial
    @YommiOfficial Před 2 lety +1

    What I like about platinum as money is if it's used in coinage, you'd hardly need the reeded edges. Good luck shaving some off the coin lol.
    EDIT: It's worth saying that bitcoin is still a harder, better money than even platinum IMO.

  • @Alex-qm6ig
    @Alex-qm6ig Před 2 měsíci

    You can make a cheap alloy with the density of platinum using tungsten, tantalum, and lead

  • @cruxclimber0600
    @cruxclimber0600 Před 3 lety +5

    face value of 1oz eagles: silver (1) gold (50) platinum (100) ... the government agrees with you

  • @evelynalimpoos6905
    @evelynalimpoos6905 Před 2 lety

    gdmorning sir,my metal item are two classes of metal,platinum metal,and palladium,217 kilos each,the sign or Pd,106,4-46

  • @objvst
    @objvst Před 3 lety

    Just because Palladium takes up more space it doesn't necessarily mean you can use only half the metal for a catalytic converter. Also maybe the process to apply palladium or platinum could be half or twice as much also being a factor in which to use? Maybe one has a longer life than the other so it can be used in more hi-rel motors than the other. metallurgist

    • @Casmige
      @Casmige Před 3 lety

      Electrolysis Plating/Coating.
      When you have double the content with which to do the pleading process actually your cost per plating episode is drastically reduced...

  • @kevinjohnson484
    @kevinjohnson484 Před 2 měsíci

    Worth my time

  • @fenwickc2274
    @fenwickc2274 Před 3 lety +1

    the most surprising thing was the Number of Ads

  • @jayflaggs
    @jayflaggs Před rokem

    The concern with physical platinum is illiquidity especially if the price explodes.

  • @tipsyXtwo
    @tipsyXtwo Před 3 lety +1

    But I thought platinum was a byproduct of mining silver? The name comes from Spanish “platina” or “little silver” if I’m not mistaken, so does anyone intentionally mine for platinum?

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +1

      It can be both mined direct and as a byproduct I believe 👍

  • @leoguy1609
    @leoguy1609 Před 2 lety

    For the money been recently buying more Platinum than other precious metals.

  • @coctailer
    @coctailer Před 3 lety +1

    What verifier do you use Rob?

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +1

      Have an XRF, 2 Sigmas and a Kee tester. XRF is expensive but the others are affordable and do a good job 👍

    • @coctailer
      @coctailer Před 3 lety +1

      @@RobSoltan I’ve been looking at the Sigma ones. The Pro version has a pretty big jump in price and abilities. $1100 for the base model is a pretty good deal, but I’m one of those people that wants to get the loaded package LOL. I just have to work up the balls to drop $2300 on the pro model with the extra wands

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety +1

      Having a good relationship with a local shop/jeweler that doesn’t scratch test can be helpful while saving. Believe the Kee is fair priced, wouldn’t be my first choice but it is helpful and gets job done. Hope it helps 🙏

  • @adamm2716
    @adamm2716 Před 3 lety +1

    maybe palladium is easier in the industrial process to work with?

  • @REALSLIK
    @REALSLIK Před 2 lety +1

    IMO I like the idea of platinum being a unique density but I think bitcoin serves as better money than all precious metals. And with palladium being harder than platinum, that explains the price difference.

  • @itrebor
    @itrebor Před 3 lety

    So when is that telegram coming out? :D

  • @kyrusinek
    @kyrusinek Před 3 lety

    I don't know what you do for a job but i wish I had the money to buy such things XD 10oz bar of palladium dang!

  • @gossman75
    @gossman75 Před 2 lety +1

    Rhodium is worth 12,000.00 an ounce. You should buy into that!

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u Před rokem +1

      Which is way down from the almost 30k that it was.

  • @williamiannucci2740
    @williamiannucci2740 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your financial advice for I believe Platinum will go up sky high more than Palladium shortly for in 2013 when I predicted that Palladium would go up first when it was 600 for I heard a fellow over seas either on a pod cast or maybe in mine minds eye I don't remember for he said angrily after hearing what was to come do to the money situation and I believe he was from either Russia or close country near by at a council meeting with other leaders over sea's that the whole currency problem was a Ponzi scheme , anyway Platinum is going up higher then gold, then silver in agreement with the West with a click of a mouse . CHEERS

  • @MatlasX
    @MatlasX Před 3 lety

    Not necessarily derivative, more like by-product.

  • @airgetmar1928
    @airgetmar1928 Před 3 lety +7

    Platinum is the “Poor Man’s” Gold… if anything it’s the real gold. And, I love Palladium because mUh R u S s I a

  • @ramonedetroitguam6075
    @ramonedetroitguam6075 Před 3 lety

    can you eat platinum
    is platinum soft as gold
    is platinum as abundant as gold

  • @carlstar9349
    @carlstar9349 Před 3 lety +2

    If you stop rambling and going off topic then I will probably stop listening. Long form is the good form.
    With electronic, if other metals go up then others take the place. Gold is a great electronic metal so will always be able to be industrial if for some odd reason other metals take over...

    • @RobSoltan
      @RobSoltan  Před 3 lety

      That means a lot to me. Thank you for being here and for the support Carl 🙏🙌

  • @tokertalk9648
    @tokertalk9648 Před 3 lety +1

    I see platinum as the cheapest of the precious metals at the moment.

    • @plips71755
      @plips71755 Před rokem

      I don’t even have to look at historical spot .. have you never looked at silver?
      It’s never been close to gold, platinum, or palladium. I would say that makes it the cheapest precious metal.

  • @jimalcott760
    @jimalcott760 Před rokem

    The reason for auto manufacturers is…. Weight….
    Gas mileage…..

  • @thomascrown
    @thomascrown Před 3 lety

    Platinum is only a $6.5 b market cap

  • @CISE9
    @CISE9 Před 3 lety +2

    #BULLISH SILVERSQUIRREL! 🐿

  • @Casmige
    @Casmige Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for answering such an important question.
    I’ve been in PMs since before you were born & I never knew this information.
    It always struck me as odd why palladium was so sought after & used more than platinum.
    Now touch on the global warming doing away with direct emission (as opposed to indirect emissions) “fossil fuel” gasoline & diesel powered vehicles along with also the reduction in population according to agenda 2030, the Great Klaus Auschwitz Schwab Re-set, the Georgia Guide Stones & it’s effect on precious metals.....Oh wait I’ve said way too much haven’t I.....

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