Hi duo, I can confirm 2 things you said in the video. I asked a friend to grind these three spots with me, we have around 291k ap, we kill them as fast as possible. Here's what I found: 1. The trash cap is around 7500 with yellow ls. because monsters do spawn in a constant rate, when you kill them too fast, you can easily notice that monsters stop to spawn for a short period of time. Exp wise, I'd say that pillar monsters are similar to normal SE rotations. 2. With 281 ap and above, it is more efficient to grind normal SE, plus, it is safer, because normal SE monsters don't hit like truck. Thanks for testing everything out! Looking forward to your next video!
Recently decided to check out SE pillars for the first time, I'm a fairly casual player, awk sorc, high 290s/340s ap/dp, and I've been enjoying them a fair bit. The trash and exp certainly dont beat what I get at trees, and the mobs do hurt a fair bit more than trees, which was my go-to spot before this, but I've been seeing at least 1 disto per hour, seemingly averaging about 1.5 to 2 per hour, as well as 1-2 of those magic crystal pieces, which if you have the mats to craft them also make a crystal that sells for about 300m a piece. So despite the relatively poor trash, the money per hour is a pretty significant upgrade from what I was used to before this. I've had multiple hours with 3 disto drops, which if you manage to make a Duo out of em translates to about 2b for that hour just by themselves. Thats better money than an hour in an upper gyfin party nets me. And while you cant really hope for a consistent 3 distos per hour, it happens often enough to not be an outlier either, and I've gotten more than that as well. So idk if its by any means an optimal spot, but it is definitely worthwhile imo, and the waves feel a lot better to grind than most normal rotations, at least in my opinion.
well, since the bosses of the stars end (chance to spawn after killing a big wizard) got revamped and the bmc + black disto chances got raised pretty much (x4 droprate for black disto for example), its pretty much worth a try compared to the towers. yes, you have consistent mob spawn on those towers but if you have a high GS like decil's then why would go to the towers in the first place? (orcs, sulfur, bloody monastery, castle). i think normal stars end can be more valueable these days compared to towers
i hope so too , i only tried the towers cuz i never grinded them before , i left kinda disappointed by the result seeing how even if i was a 261AP player i would make the same money in valencia :/
@@Duodecil yeah idk what PA thought when they did the valencia rework. of course those spots had to change but in the end all valencia spots (except sulfur) can achieve their 250-300 mill per hour in a very consistent way and sulfur even more. you can grind every of those spots with season gearand im kinda sick of that. all other spots on the map are between 120 AP and 280 AP are legitable allowed to ignore comepletely. the games spot right now is basically: get season gear > grind valencia fogans/bandits/nagas/crescent till you are able to grind sulfur > grind sulfur till 280/290 AP to enjoy a big pile of high end grinding spots and group content (turos, bloody monastry, oluns, ash forest, resting thoughts crypt)
@@RLjeremypascal obviously they want gearlets to catch up and decrease the gear gap. Imagine you get out of season and all you make is 130 mil per/h. How else do you want them to catch up ?
@@mad1559 thats not the case. the moment you end up season you can already grind at sulfur for your 350 million/hour, just like everyone else below 280 AP does and thats the problem. From 120-280 AP its just valencia valencia valencia and valencia. There is no point in grinding other areas and thats the point of my comment and not something about "gearcap" and fake silver/hour numbers you wrote about
constant 350 mil an hour at sulfur lmao. You can barely grind there 2 hours before your Agris runs out. You can't nearly make that much with just yellow loot scroll if you dont have full t4 pets. Valencia got reworked cause low hadum spots and SE were too crowded,also for people to catch up, people who are fresh out of season would make 130mil/hr at max if they wouldn't have reworked it. I dont know anyone above 600 GS who doesnt grind Fogans/Orcs.
SE is not consistent enough to match Valencia imo. You need RNG for it to work even UW is way better alternative if your going to sell the the BMC drops. I know cause I've given up this spot many times alr.
SE (non-towers) is just my comfort place when I don't have the agris for Valencia on that given day, and it's fairly laid back so you can multitask while grinding for the most part, and with elvia being the way it is now you barely ever get flagged on/DFS unless there is a drop rate event going on i'm only at 341 DP so elvia still packs a punch but SE is just straight autopilot so I am fine with the streaky hours
So many spots in the game need a revamp. Elvia made it almost worthless to grind elsewhere besides turos, oluns, crypt being end game, and ash forest. The gyphens spot seems viable but we needed a group 3 man spot revamp not a 700 gs solo spot, buff the trash loot value that's all thats needed
I had a cracked hour doing towers where I got a DUO and 2 base distortion earrings. People do not grind here for trash. They are here for the distortion earrings and nothing more.
Some of my guildmates grind there like there's no other spot in the game, enchant once a week, burn every earring to the ground, and enter the casino again. I've never saw a potential in going there, in my 10 hour time spent i didnt drop a SINGLE earring, and said i'll never come back again. Its a total RNG fest, and not worth the risk of your time if you dont sit 8 hours a day behind your computer.
I like how some ppl only get 1 disto once in a while. I have an average of 0.8/h over 124h. I would say the vessel mobs have a higher drop rate for Distos. But I grind always with 50%Tent and Node Lv 10, so maybe thats the reason for difference. I also have an average of 9 BMCs/h. I also enhance the distos and sell them my garmoth rn is at 350m/h, but with my calculations including the enhancing im on an average of above 600+m/h And last but not least, the dmg you get comes from the vessel taking dmg. If you kill the mobs faster and always directly kill the Spearmobs it gets much easier. I grind i with an archer and already did that before the reboot. Started with 341 dp and was able to grind here
@@Breeze_E Mostyl 3 to safe stacks, did 3 TETs, 2 for my gear and one to sell. I started first grinding ans enhancing for my gear, but i saw the profit and could never again grind some where else xD. Sycraia once in a while for Frenzys, but thats it. RN im not even using Frenzys anymore with inf HP i can grind with Giants etc and MP pots so i save even more money xD
can you share you game settings it looks amazing really .. I'm playing on remastered however there must be something I'm doing wrong because I still see ghosting and it just doesn't look so clear
Are you using FXAA or TAA? Running FXAA while on remastered worked wonders for me. Im Choice got a video on it "How to make BDO's New AMD FSR Look AMAZING (FXAA instead of TAA)"
I happened to have grinded 10 hours recently, with having super luck of dropping 11 distos. At 378 DP, i had no problems at all, so DP will make the spot very easy. Since you pretty much depent on a disto drop to be worth grinding there imo., i wouldnt recommend it unless you want to get distos and enchance them or you are very lucky and drop in average 1 per hour to have a decent income every hour. Other than distos, bmc's are also not bad if you want an alternative bmc spot with the lucky disto drop.
1 distortion every 4 hours seems good to me, i've only spent 20 hours on Star's End and my first distortion was on the 13th hour, needless to say i never went back and i never will :D
Trash is capped at pillars. Tin foil moment. It seems different accounts have different drop rate luck for distos here. I average 0.7 distos every hour. My friend 1.2. We both rocked up a solid 150 hours. Same drop rate buffs, same node level, same monster knowledge. As you can see his silver an hour is disgusting. I do drop more crystals then him by far tho. Too bad they are worthless now
I think that SE seems to be viable option only if you have node lvled up, dedicated profession for that spot and you need to be strong enough to keep main roration for yourself. Other wise, not Worth.
Not even then. Level 10 node almost means nothing, trash loot isn't worth much and it's not hard to hit enough AP for turos which pays more than stars end and belts and flames are more common than distos and you'll build another flame from the embers, at fogans you'll make more consistent money than stars end without a weapon or boss spawn
So according to most people i know and my own experience, Towers give u less Trash than other spots because u are capped, but u have a much higher chance to drop Distos. Again, this is not confirmed, but my average for Distos on Towers is 1,1/h, but only 0,8/h on other spots. I do around 7,5-8k Trash on Tower and around 8,5-9k on normal spots. I did around 50 hours on Towers and around 20 hours on other spots. Other people i asked told me the exact same. I am not sure if that is actually the case, but it would explain why Towers are capped. With enough gear and enough training u can probably still do more money on normal spots with the right class. But overall i make more money on Towers.
this 7.4k+ was all on yellow? Or Guardian suck that much? Iw as try Here By My Guardian and taggy Nova both succ and ave and allways had around 5300 trash p/h blueScroll Awe and succ bothw ith 301 ap kutum with pen main bs. But with boost drop rate I didnt see defrence between normal and boost time and have 1 discto every 4-5h (Server 50%+Spirit 33%+ Tent 50% +pet 4%+ Kama bb 20%+ shield 5% and knowledge 15%). That's normal or RNG wont Bless me?
They should make towers a 2 man spot or 3 man spot add more of them and make it like trees but give it higher disto drop rate and more trash at .10 weight instead for it to be super viable
The guy who asked for DFS was one of those many who just wanted to bully you. We made the experience that roughly 80% of the people asking for DFS were leaving the spots after 5 minutes once they had the spots given to them voluntarily. So DFS has become to most annoying bullying mechanic up to date.
SE needs a trash update. Make it worth more and drop in bigger quantities. It’s way behind now on console with val and kama updates. On pc y’all got Elvia so it’s even worse there.
@@Duodecil I did 4 and end up with tri distortion from 4 drops. RNG at it's best with 2bil/hour. But at least the towers are decent fun with no pulling magic, but just killing. ;-)
Idk why I average around 4.5k TL/hr only with my zerk 285k, with blue LS. Mobs are soft mostly 2-3 skills to kill them. If my RNG is shit I just get one disto or one crystal worth 300m+ in SEA. If I have good RNG I get 2 disto in hour and 1 crystal.
Really depends tbh, longest I've gone without disto was 8 hours. I'd say in the long run, it's not worth grinding there unless you're really bored and want to look for the dopamine hits.
Bro, towers always gives me a disto each hour, rarely I go dry for 2 hours. Sometimes I get up to 3 distortions. I made 10b in no time there some weeks ago, it was so good. 301k here, trash is capped btw
Thats based on luck obviously but towers dont have a higher chance of disto... its the same as normal spot, i would rather do with 500-600 trash more than stay pillar just because you have extra chance to disto
Don't know about succession, but I've been farming SE on a seasonal server with awakened Corsair. It's 5-5.1k trash per hour with 249 ap at the main rotation. With 269 ap I guess it's around 5.5k.
idk at your AP for certain but at my gear i saw no real difference between corsair and the classes i tagged recently , the highest AP spot i tried recently is Sycraia where corsair and wizard preformed pretty much the same , i would say she is within 5% of the other classes , i bet striker succ and lahn are still broken af but corsair isnt bad .
@@Duodecil I played both Striker and Lahn, but I didnt like them that much, I'll give a fair chance to Corsair, since we have Marni Fuel event anyways. Thank you, your content helped me a lot :D
Towers is definitely not the way once you make more trash on normal rotations, which is kind of shit, cause you need more gear for tower. I am doing 7.1k on blue lootscroll at cliff rotation and have an average disto drop rate of 0.8, which equals to 426 mil/hour
@@SamHiggan There are multiple videos of people getting 7k with blue lootscroll. There is even a warrior on console with 275k ap hitting that amount of trash. I agree that cliff alone isnt 7k because I have to extend into the rotation right next to it
So.. i need distortion so i need to grind towers if the spot is full like the ordinary spots you know.. so.. What DP recommended there ? i have 280kutum i think this should be fine right ?
This spot sucks. The trash cap makes the spot unviable for high gear scored players and low gs players can't even properly grind here. One of the absolute lose-lose spots. You can only chill with guardian here.
Gave towers a go recently, never rly did SE before, 2 distos per hour seems to be about average for me, and I kinda like the waves, theyre a nice change of pace when youre tired of constantly running in circles on normal rotations. Whenever I manage to get 3 in an hour I try and make a Duo out of em, pretty easy 2bil for a single hour of grinding, pretty worthwhile in my eyes.
@TheSpeep I love towers my account is pretty cracked at getting distos. I have gotten 7 distos in 1 hour twice now. I use to cron to tri and sell for easy money but now my account is at the debo hunt meta so I need my crons
@@modernlegend_gaming Damn, would love 7 in an hour, hasnt happened to me yet tho, but ive spent mabe 10 hours at the place or so. Best Ive gotten was 4 I think, when I got 2 back to back at some point, dont wanna risk the Tri gamble tho. I get burnt out on the game easily nowadays so towers has been a nice change of pace, probs wont be going after debos anytime soon tho =P
Ive had loot drop here. Not here. And other places loot dropped. But then it didnt. Its just random. You had a crappy run at it is all. Some days the algorythm everywhere seems utter fail.
Trashloot/hour on normal SE is higher, although it depends on a rotation used and one's ability to pull mobs. I'm definitely not the best, but I'm doing 5.7-5.8 k trashloot on the main rotation and almost as much at the temple rotation.
Clear blackstar crystal is about 104m profit after tax if you buy the 3 forest furys and a crit crystal. Corrupted magic crystal is about 195m on MP atm. So the money per hour should really be adjusted with that.
Why I don't grind SE because it is rng dependent, but of course nice profit if you get bde drop. There are times with 6 hrs 0 bde, 6 hrs 4-6 bde. Evlia is just better because of the weapons.
well , my conclusion is , unless u average 1 distortion every 1.5 hours or even 1 per hour then u are better off in Valencia then upgrade to Elvia Fogans >.
i guess it's an ok grind if you don't wanna pay too much attention and don't wanna sprint through the rotation, grinding on the spot feels quite nice if you don't hate SE like me.
It is not that bad of a spot, at least not with my gear and it's pretty chill, mobs barely make you any damage and with AoE you burn them out. It's a good place to grind while afk watch some Netflix or whatever. I'm 301k/390
I went there thinking it would be more of a lazy grind without moving too much at 285k/337dp with dr set and I couldn't enjoy it at all... the mobs hit harder than most elvia mobs, even tho this is a lower ap zone, plus that weird spear chugging mob that cc's through most of my SA all the time (I think its to protect against afk grinders)
yeah the spear dude and the big wiz mobs hurt a lot , def not a chill spot to grind , and yeah this is harder than some elvia spots which makes no sense :/ I'm just sad the profit is nowhere near Elvia or Valencia x.x
SE is dead content that's barely silver competitive even with good RNG - thank horrible balance and zone progression from PA. To anyone who wants to stay there, go ahead, less competition where the real silver is.
towers are better then normal rotations since u have higher chance of obtaining a disto and that is just facts.. u fight more elites and more of the bigger mobs which have higher chance of dropping them. just you need some gear for it compared to normal rotation
Hi duo, I can confirm 2 things you said in the video. I asked a friend to grind these three spots with me, we have around 291k ap, we kill them as fast as possible. Here's what I found:
1. The trash cap is around 7500 with yellow ls. because monsters do spawn in a constant rate, when you kill them too fast, you can easily notice that monsters stop to spawn for a short period of time. Exp wise, I'd say that pillar monsters are similar to normal SE rotations.
2. With 281 ap and above, it is more efficient to grind normal SE, plus, it is safer, because normal SE monsters don't hit like truck.
Thanks for testing everything out! Looking forward to your next video!
Recently decided to check out SE pillars for the first time, I'm a fairly casual player, awk sorc, high 290s/340s ap/dp, and I've been enjoying them a fair bit.
The trash and exp certainly dont beat what I get at trees, and the mobs do hurt a fair bit more than trees, which was my go-to spot before this, but I've been seeing at least 1 disto per hour, seemingly averaging about 1.5 to 2 per hour, as well as 1-2 of those magic crystal pieces, which if you have the mats to craft them also make a crystal that sells for about 300m a piece.
So despite the relatively poor trash, the money per hour is a pretty significant upgrade from what I was used to before this.
I've had multiple hours with 3 disto drops, which if you manage to make a Duo out of em translates to about 2b for that hour just by themselves. Thats better money than an hour in an upper gyfin party nets me. And while you cant really hope for a consistent 3 distos per hour, it happens often enough to not be an outlier either, and I've gotten more than that as well.
So idk if its by any means an optimal spot, but it is definitely worthwhile imo, and the waves feel a lot better to grind than most normal rotations, at least in my opinion.
Why are you grinding trees when you have spots like orcs and sycria?
@@ItsSwitchXD Cuz I hate orcs and i cant be bothered going to and from Sycraia.
I'm not too worried with being optimal.
So glad you are doing videos regularly again! Keep the great work.
well, since the bosses of the stars end (chance to spawn after killing a big wizard) got revamped and the bmc + black disto chances got raised pretty much (x4 droprate for black disto for example), its pretty much worth a try compared to the towers. yes, you have consistent mob spawn on those towers but if you have a high GS like decil's then why would go to the towers in the first place? (orcs, sulfur, bloody monastery, castle).
i think normal stars end can be more valueable these days compared to towers
i hope so too , i only tried the towers cuz i never grinded them before , i left kinda disappointed by the result seeing how even if i was a 261AP player i would make the same money in valencia :/
@@Duodecil yeah idk what PA thought when they did the valencia rework. of course those spots had to change but in the end all valencia spots (except sulfur) can achieve their 250-300 mill per hour in a very consistent way and sulfur even more. you can grind every of those spots with season gearand im kinda sick of that. all other spots on the map are between 120 AP and 280 AP are legitable allowed to ignore comepletely.
the games spot right now is basically: get season gear > grind valencia fogans/bandits/nagas/crescent till you are able to grind sulfur > grind sulfur till 280/290 AP to enjoy a big pile of high end grinding spots and group content (turos, bloody monastry, oluns, ash forest, resting thoughts crypt)
@@RLjeremypascal obviously they want gearlets to catch up and decrease the gear gap. Imagine you get out of season and all you make is 130 mil per/h. How else do you want them to catch up ?
@@mad1559 thats not the case. the moment you end up season you can already grind at sulfur for your 350 million/hour, just like everyone else below 280 AP does and thats the problem. From 120-280 AP its just valencia valencia valencia and valencia. There is no point in grinding other areas and thats the point of my comment and not something about "gearcap" and fake silver/hour numbers you wrote about
constant 350 mil an hour at sulfur lmao. You can barely grind there 2 hours before your Agris runs out. You can't nearly make that much with just yellow loot scroll if you dont have full t4 pets. Valencia got reworked cause low hadum spots and SE were too crowded,also for people to catch up, people who are fresh out of season would make 130mil/hr at max if they wouldn't have reworked it. I dont know anyone above 600 GS who doesnt grind Fogans/Orcs.
your corsair looking really good here! Thanks for the guides man, they are my go-to in any region ♥
OMG YOU MADE THE Video i requested thank you!!!
Ive also had a duo disto and 2 distos drop in 1hr. And then none for 4-6hr.
SE is not consistent enough to match Valencia imo. You need RNG for it to work even UW is way better alternative if your going to sell the the BMC drops. I know cause I've given up this spot many times alr.
SE (non-towers) is just my comfort place when I don't have the agris for Valencia on that given day, and it's fairly laid back so you can multitask while grinding for the most part, and with elvia being the way it is now you barely ever get flagged on/DFS unless there is a drop rate event going on
i'm only at 341 DP so elvia still packs a punch but SE is just straight autopilot so I am fine with the streaky hours
So many spots in the game need a revamp. Elvia made it almost worthless to grind elsewhere besides turos, oluns, crypt being end game, and ash forest. The gyphens spot seems viable but we needed a group 3 man spot revamp not a 700 gs solo spot, buff the trash loot value that's all thats needed
I had a cracked hour doing towers where I got a DUO and 2 base distortion earrings. People do not grind here for trash. They are here for the distortion earrings and nothing more.
Honestly, if youve got the Forest Fury to craft em, the crystal drops are pretty nice too, those sell for 300m a piece as well.
Some of my guildmates grind there like there's no other spot in the game, enchant once a week, burn every earring to the ground, and enter the casino again. I've never saw a potential in going there, in my 10 hour time spent i didnt drop a SINGLE earring, and said i'll never come back again. Its a total RNG fest, and not worth the risk of your time if you dont sit 8 hours a day behind your computer.
I like how some ppl only get 1 disto once in a while. I have an average of 0.8/h over 124h. I would say the vessel mobs have a higher drop rate for Distos. But I grind always with 50%Tent and Node Lv 10, so maybe thats the reason for difference. I also have an average of 9 BMCs/h.
I also enhance the distos and sell them my garmoth rn is at 350m/h, but with my calculations including the enhancing im on an average of above 600+m/h
And last but not least, the dmg you get comes from the vessel taking dmg. If you kill the mobs faster and always directly kill the Spearmobs it gets much easier.
I grind i with an archer and already did that before the reboot. Started with 341 dp and was able to grind here
ikr, my SE vessel average is 1.2disto/hr. super chill spot, no need to bother with dfs either.
Yup, cron enhance distos (or lunars at BM) to make these spots actually good. How far do you enhance the distos?
@@Breeze_E Mostyl 3 to safe stacks, did 3 TETs, 2 for my gear and one to sell. I started first grinding ans enhancing for my gear, but i saw the profit and could never again grind some where else xD. Sycraia once in a while for Frenzys, but thats it. RN im not even using Frenzys anymore with inf HP i can grind with Giants etc and MP pots so i save even more money xD
can you share you game settings it looks amazing really .. I'm playing on remastered however there must be something I'm doing wrong because I still see ghosting and it just doesn't look so clear
Are you using FXAA or TAA? Running FXAA while on remastered worked wonders for me. Im Choice got a video on it "How to make BDO's New AMD FSR Look AMAZING (FXAA instead of TAA)"
@@Seriksy Yea TAA is a cancer in the gaming industry because ghosting is garaunteed.
I happened to have grinded 10 hours recently, with having super luck of dropping 11 distos. At 378 DP, i had no problems at all, so DP will make the spot very easy. Since you pretty much depent on a disto drop to be worth grinding there imo., i wouldnt recommend it unless you want to get distos and enchance them or you are very lucky and drop in average 1 per hour to have a decent income every hour. Other than distos, bmc's are also not bad if you want an alternative bmc spot with the lucky disto drop.
1 distortion every 4 hours seems good to me, i've only spent 20 hours on Star's End and my first distortion was on the 13th hour, needless to say i never went back and i never will :D
1 distortion every 4 hours is garbage. 1 distortion every hour is barely acceptable. You need 2 per hours to keep up with the other spots tbh.
Trash is capped at pillars. Tin foil moment. It seems different accounts have different drop rate luck for distos here. I average 0.7 distos every hour. My friend 1.2. We both rocked up a solid 150 hours. Same drop rate buffs, same node level, same monster knowledge. As you can see his silver an hour is disgusting. I do drop more crystals then him by far tho. Too bad they are worthless now
I think that SE seems to be viable option only if you have node lvled up, dedicated profession for that spot and you need to be strong enough to keep main roration for yourself. Other wise, not Worth.
Not even then. Level 10 node almost means nothing, trash loot isn't worth much and it's not hard to hit enough AP for turos which pays more than stars end and belts and flames are more common than distos and you'll build another flame from the embers, at fogans you'll make more consistent money than stars end without a weapon or boss spawn
the dfs striker just wanted to fight but doesn't goes to arsha
I’ve read that people grind towers during drop-rate events.
Appears that “Orc grinders” do that.
They don't. You're an idiot if you don't grind elvia during drop rate events. It affects weapon drops, seeds, bmcs everything. SE is dead content.
So according to most people i know and my own experience, Towers give u less Trash than other spots because u are capped, but u have a much higher chance to drop Distos. Again, this is not confirmed, but my average for Distos on Towers is 1,1/h, but only 0,8/h on other spots. I do around 7,5-8k Trash on Tower and around 8,5-9k on normal spots. I did around 50 hours on Towers and around 20 hours on other spots. Other people i asked told me the exact same. I am not sure if that is actually the case, but it would explain why Towers are capped. With enough gear and enough training u can probably still do more money on normal spots with the right class. But overall i make more money on Towers.
Hope to see some infos about Gyfin underground soon :)
Came back there for 2 hours and got 6 distos and one pri disto. Was freaking out. Next day got 0 distos for 3 hours. Gambling End can be funny
this 7.4k+ was all on yellow? Or Guardian suck that much? Iw as try Here By My Guardian and taggy Nova both succ and ave and allways had around 5300 trash p/h blueScroll Awe and succ bothw ith 301 ap kutum with pen main bs. But with boost drop rate I didnt see defrence between normal and boost time and have 1 discto every 4-5h (Server 50%+Spirit 33%+ Tent 50% +pet 4%+ Kama bb 20%+ shield 5% and knowledge 15%). That's normal or RNG wont Bless me?
from what i now is that since towers got added the base rotation was always better... idk the reason but that's what i know
in general is there any reason on using agris + yellow ls?
did u check xp is this not and xp spot not a money spot ??
They should make towers a 2 man spot or 3 man spot add more of them and make it like trees but give it higher disto drop rate and more trash at .10 weight instead for it to be super viable
The guy who asked for DFS was one of those many who just wanted to bully you. We made the experience that roughly 80% of the people asking for DFS were leaving the spots after 5 minutes once they had the spots given to them voluntarily. So DFS has become to most annoying bullying mechanic up to date.
or they write directly "spot taken" xD
Why even engage with them, I just do what I want and Ignor them
SE needs a trash update. Make it worth more and drop in bigger quantities. It’s way behind now on console with val and kama updates.
On pc y’all got Elvia so it’s even worse there.
yeah it does , i did 1h here recently and maaaan its bad xD
@@Duodecil I do here and there to test my disto rng and I always leave empty handed
@@Duodecil I did 4 and end up with tri distortion from 4 drops. RNG at it's best with 2bil/hour. But at least the towers are decent fun with no pulling magic, but just killing. ;-)
How much dp do you have while grinding towers?
Idk why I average around 4.5k TL/hr only with my zerk 285k, with blue LS. Mobs are soft mostly 2-3 skills to kill them. If my RNG is shit I just get one disto or one crystal worth 300m+ in SEA. If I have good RNG I get 2 disto in hour and 1 crystal.
Oh nooo... my sleeper spot is now gone...
I've grinded around 20 hours on SE towers and my average is ~1 disto every 2 hours.
It's still decent m/h with a blue ls and no agris.
Really depends tbh, longest I've gone without disto was 8 hours. I'd say in the long run, it's not worth grinding there unless you're really bored and want to look for the dopamine hits.
6 hours, 0 distos so far, given up.
20 mins 1 disto :)
sorry to brag but i uninstalled a moth or so ago :)
@@smallleaf8943 good choice
i also havent been there for milenia ... so there are 3 towers ... what about the rest of the place ? those are just normal mobs and rotations or ??
Ye
what font are you using?
Ty for your video, really helpfull
Is this post Stars End update?
you are the best man i love you
Bro, towers always gives me a disto each hour, rarely I go dry for 2 hours. Sometimes I get up to 3 distortions. I made 10b in no time there some weeks ago, it was so good. 301k here, trash is capped btw
Thats based on luck obviously but towers dont have a higher chance of disto... its the same as normal spot, i would rather do with 500-600 trash more than stay pillar just because you have extra chance to disto
I grinder SE last month and went dry for 28 hours, 5.3k trash/h. It’s all based on RNG and if you’re RNG is bad then rip
@@asxcee7155 I dont believe you can go dry for 28h with a 5.3k average, its numbers u make up.
@@Zarmox Towers do have higher chance of distos though
@@KowitaG sorry for asking but can i see a link with this info ? Because im sure there is nowhere written they do have
How good is Corsair after all those class Reboots that came, is she worth time if you're at 265/269/315
Don't know about succession, but I've been farming SE on a seasonal server with awakened Corsair. It's 5-5.1k trash per hour with 249 ap at the main rotation. With 269 ap I guess it's around 5.5k.
idk at your AP for certain but at my gear i saw no real difference between corsair and the classes i tagged recently , the highest AP spot i tried recently is Sycraia where corsair and wizard preformed pretty much the same , i would say she is within 5% of the other classes , i bet striker succ and lahn are still broken af but corsair isnt bad .
@@Duodecil I played both Striker and Lahn, but I didnt like them that much, I'll give a fair chance to Corsair, since we have Marni Fuel event anyways. Thank you, your content helped me a lot :D
what dp should i have not to die so easly?
oh boi , old video , idk tbf , maybe 340 ? it's been ages since i did star's end
my friend getting 3 corrosions in 11minutes and me getting none in 40 hours
Towers is definitely not the way once you make more trash on normal rotations, which is kind of shit, cause you need more gear for tower.
I am doing 7.1k on blue lootscroll at cliff rotation and have an average disto drop rate of 0.8, which equals to 426 mil/hour
7.1 eh the highest ive seen is 6.6k blue for 299ap succ warrior and altarofgaming already put cliff rotation around 6.4k max per hr.
@@SamHiggan There are multiple videos of people getting 7k with blue lootscroll. There is even a warrior on console with 275k ap hitting that amount of trash.
I agree that cliff alone isnt 7k because I have to extend into the rotation right next to it
So.. i need distortion so i need to grind towers if the spot is full like the ordinary spots you know.. so.. What DP recommended there ? i have 280kutum i think this should be fine right ?
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@@SamHiggan dr or eva??
@@sorthus5828 Im on dr lahn but i havent done my hp book yet
@@SamHiggan im a sorc so.. probably have high chance to die since sorc is squishy
This spot sucks. The trash cap makes the spot unviable for high gear scored players and low gs players can't even properly grind here. One of the absolute lose-lose spots. You can only chill with guardian here.
i get on average 2 distos per hour right now on normal stars end i havent tried the towers yet most i had was 4 in 1 hour
Gave towers a go recently, never rly did SE before, 2 distos per hour seems to be about average for me, and I kinda like the waves, theyre a nice change of pace when youre tired of constantly running in circles on normal rotations.
Whenever I manage to get 3 in an hour I try and make a Duo out of em, pretty easy 2bil for a single hour of grinding, pretty worthwhile in my eyes.
@TheSpeep I love towers my account is pretty cracked at getting distos. I have gotten 7 distos in 1 hour twice now. I use to cron to tri and sell for easy money but now my account is at the debo hunt meta so I need my crons
@@modernlegend_gaming Damn, would love 7 in an hour, hasnt happened to me yet tho, but ive spent mabe 10 hours at the place or so.
Best Ive gotten was 4 I think, when I got 2 back to back at some point, dont wanna risk the Tri gamble tho.
I get burnt out on the game easily nowadays so towers has been a nice change of pace, probs wont be going after debos anytime soon tho =P
@TheSpeep I feel you I hit that debo wall and it sucks
Ive had loot drop here. Not here. And other places loot dropped. But then it didnt. Its just random. You had a crappy run at it is all. Some days the algorythm everywhere seems utter fail.
Trashloot/hour on normal SE is higher, although it depends on a rotation used and one's ability to pull mobs. I'm definitely not the best, but I'm doing 5.7-5.8 k trashloot on the main rotation and almost as much at the temple rotation.
Very class specific spot too at higher ap
lol! never knew these existed lmao
I did two hours here today. 406DP and never even felt the hits. I was lucky and made 1.5bil. Even with that, Gyfin is better if you have a good team.
SE has always been so stupid to me, it's so contested, disto drops are let's be honest awful odds. Sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort to me
It is stupid and even with a lucky average that requires RNG it's still not as good as the revamps and elvia.
pls do the normal stars end
based as fuck bro
i got 0 disto in 4 hours :(
Clear blackstar crystal is about 104m profit after tax if you buy the 3 forest furys and a crit crystal. Corrupted magic crystal is about 195m on MP atm. So the money per hour should really be adjusted with that.
Clear blackstar crystals are worth 10-13 mill per on EU/NA
@@YberDC I'm on NA and that is nowhere true.
Why I don't grind SE because it is rng dependent, but of course nice profit if you get bde drop. There are times with 6 hrs 0 bde, 6 hrs 4-6 bde. Evlia is just better because of the weapons.
well , my conclusion is , unless u average 1 distortion every 1.5 hours or even 1 per hour then u are better off in Valencia then upgrade to Elvia Fogans >.
i guess it's an ok grind if you don't wanna pay too much attention and don't wanna sprint through the rotation, grinding on the spot feels quite nice if you don't hate SE like me.
It is not that bad of a spot, at least not with my gear and it's pretty chill, mobs barely make you any damage and with AoE you burn them out. It's a good place to grind while afk watch some Netflix or whatever. I'm 301k/390
someone discovered emotes xD
howw? tell!!
Normal stars end much better
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I went there thinking it would be more of a lazy grind without moving too much at 285k/337dp with dr set and I couldn't enjoy it at all... the mobs hit harder than most elvia mobs, even tho this is a lower ap zone, plus that weird spear chugging mob that cc's through most of my SA all the time (I think its to protect against afk grinders)
yeah the spear dude and the big wiz mobs hurt a lot , def not a chill spot to grind , and yeah this is harder than some elvia spots which makes no sense :/
I'm just sad the profit is nowhere near Elvia or Valencia x.x
SE is dead content that's barely silver competitive even with good RNG - thank horrible balance and zone progression from PA. To anyone who wants to stay there, go ahead, less competition where the real silver is.
towers are better then normal rotations since u have higher chance of obtaining a disto and that is just facts.. u fight more elites and more of the bigger mobs which have higher chance of dropping them. just you need some gear for it compared to normal rotation
go play lost ark
People will be in 4 hours.
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my xp seems to move here faster than any where beside under g. gyfin