I think LEGO is going to stay away from the sequels as they are very controversial but I agree we need more sets from the PT and a little less from the cw even though it’s very popular now and hopefully we will get some rots sets for the 20th anniversary
No I agree with you. The only thing that I would add to this is the fact that the designers feel the need to change the design every few years. I think the helmets were great in 2014 and I can’t understand why the designers went through the trouble of making a new mold, which theoretically cost them more money when no one was asking for one
I think the real problem with the newer clone helmets is that people are not used to seeing holes on Phase II helmets. The Phase I and Mando helmet remolds had holes right away and noone is complaining. In my opinion helmet holes on Phase II should have been a thing from the start. Rex and Crosshair just looked so cheap and underwhelming without their range finders and clones like Cody are now possible. No longer redoing Commander Gree over and over again. Lego's given us the clone figures we want as well as the ability to better mix and match pieces, making custom clone officers like we used to in the good old The Clone Wars days.
I’m planning on making my next video about helmet holes but the problem is that for the range finders the holes are above where they should be and I will cover the visors in the video (which is it’s own problem) and yeah even tho the old stuff to customize the clones are dated it would be cool if they brought it back.
@@DK_Studios_ Yes, that's true of course, the range finder is supposed to be plugged into the "ear" while the visor is mounted on top of it. At least the visor is in the right spot. Question is, what if Lego decided to put the ear a little bit higher? Maybe that may look awkward, arguable less accurate (as far as a Lego minifig can be accurate) and then we would have another problem. But placing the holes lower would then result in the visor beeing placed at the wrong height and making an altered mold for it would result in weird angled mounting points. I can't think of a solution that is perfect, aside from going all on with custom molds, adding a P2 helmet with a single hole on the ear for a range finder, another P2 helmet for the visor addon or with the visor already integrated and no holes for regular helmets but then again this would defeat the whole purpose of those holes if we can't use them for customization, to lego with them. Either way, Lego had to choose one compromise over the others. That's why I believe, the holes should have been there right away. In that case they could've created a P2 mold that is meant for adding stuff. But now they just edited an older mold that wasn't meant for that. Lego could still do an entire remold for P2 helmets to make them look good AND customizable. But then again, people would be mad, I would be mad. We haven't waiten for so long to get Cody, Rex and Fives just for them to be outdated once a new helmet mold arrives. It's a really tricky situation and I can absolutley see all where all opinions are coming from.
Finally someone said it. The new stormtrooper helmets are way worse than helmets holes. It looks like it was just smushed down or beat with a mallet. The 2014 stormtrooper is the best
I think this is an issue that has very much been overshadowed by the helmet holes, which I feel shouldn’t be ignored as it makes the figure look much worse in comparison. They definitely should reverse it or make improvements. I wonder how this has affected army building? 🤔💭For me, I definitely haven’t gotten nearly as many as the previous versions.
I don't get the thing about the holes, they are just plastic little brick guys, they aren't meant to be that realistic, I think the og clone helmets better represented they were simply Lego, now the new design of helmets for storm troopers, yes not good
@@DK_Studios_ yeaaa sure did, my first few sets was the snow trooper battle pack, the rebel trooper battle pack, the battle of naboo, clone trooper battle pack, mandolorian battle pack, elite clone trooper and commando droid battle pack and endor trooper and imperial trooper battle pack Sold all my Legos from 2010-2023 for 50, just how it was at the time, shouldn't of but, yeaaa
Helmet holes are a massive improvement over the old helmets. And the general sculpt of the newer helmets fits modern Lego design way better. I truly do not understand why people act like helmet holes are a problem in any way. Are people going to complain about legs having holes on the back? Or the hands just being claws? Lego figures are caricatures and don't need 100% perfect accurate detail.
The reason people complain is because it looks like there are are 2 sets of holes which looks bad and I’m going to be talking about it in my next video
They completely don’t. Every other helmet except the stormtrooper has accurate proportions, especially the scout and TIE helmets. The clown helmets make them so fat and warp the printing, just look at the 332nd and 212th helmets. And then they don’t even work that well, the visor gets stretched by then since it’s not designed for that helmet and then the rangefinder is comically high up so much that Lego changed its placement on one of their boxes. This entire thing could’ve been solved by putting the holes in the right place, like in GCCs new Rex helmet which is perfection And how hard is it for you people to understand no one hates the actual holes they just hate where they are because they look ugly af
@@omarbaba9892 "how hard is it for you people to understand" is a really weird attempt at an ad hominem attack, which is a fallacious argument. Please respond in a more coherent and measured way.
@@Ankh_The_Artist no because half the arguments I see for helmet holes think people hate them for the fact holes are actually there, that’s just plain false
@@omarbaba9892 I really do not care. You're complaining that a caricature toy is not 100% perfectly accurate. That's absurd. Please go outside and interact with people off the internet. Stop spamming my notifications with replies
i do not understand the turning helmet argument. i couldn't turn my older helmets either so what gives. I personally prefer the newer helmets over the older ones.... They look better than the 2014 ones....
I and many other people think the 2014 look the best though you can have your own opinion. Also the helmet turning thing is also a problem on older stormtroopers just especially these ones as you really have to have them pop up to turn them.
So I’m going to address this from a LEGO and artistic point of view rather than function point of view. This helmet is garbage because it’s not LEGO. Almost all thing LEGO make has a certain artistic aesthetic. It makes them look and have a feeling of LEGO. Lego minifigs are separate form action figure by look because of the unique body shapes and proportion, it’s not the shape of a human, but it represents on in a Lego way. The Lego hands are like c-clamps while our real hands have fingers, yet we can compare them as similar, as hands. The stormtrooper helmet design does not fit Lego, it attempts for an ultra hyper accurate helmet (Which it isn’t even, it’s too elongated) yet in the process of making it more “realistic” it looks less lego. It has a poor shape, poor size, and poor coloring (I will get to that in a bit). It looks like it’s for an action figure, NOT for Lego, this is what so many people hate about it without knowing why, the people then nitpick on detail they could point out like not turning the helmet, but in all aspects, it doesn’t look Lego, it feels wrong to look at. Here we can compare to the newer and older Darth Vader Lego helmet, both of which are still Lego in looks. The original Lego earth Vader helmet had the perfect Lego silhouette, even if the shape wasn’t accurate, it looked Lego and thus matched with the Lego body proportions. The new Vader helmet while more realistic maintained a Lego look however since it was scaled very well and did not conflict with the Lego body and take all the visual strength. The helmet was not too small and not too big. The new stormtrooper helmet however fails at this. The helmet is massive, its chin makes the helmets appear far too large, throwing off the size scaling balance for helmets and the minifigures body, now it makes it look like you placed an action figure helmet onto Lego. This more “realistic” look made this worse as the helmet not only took away the visual focus from the entire figure and focused it towards the helmet, but the size made it stand out even more, making the torso less noticeable. People notice the helmet looks off because their eyes focus on it, its massive size and non Lego like look make it stand out as a problem and look wrong. Next the torso and legs aid in making the helmet and legs look worse. Notice how Lego does not make the stormtroopers have black hips, well the black hips played such an important visual role. The lines on the stormtrooper armor are thin and black, our human eyes however instinctively noticing the things that stand out, the thicker lines, because of this, when the black hips were replaced by white hips, what part contains the most visually striking amount of black? The helmet, the eyes and forehead line. With poor scaling the lines and eyes are thick black, while everything on the legs and torso are thin black lines, this makes the helmets even more focused on as well as making it not even match the body artistically If anything this seems like a way for Lego to find a way to jack up the price of minifigures and give a crap justification with little complaints. Lego is doing this forced exclusiveness for Star Wars minifigures, notice how in the past (2001-2012ish) or something, they gave way more minifigures in general, while most sets now in comparison have so little. Lego wants you to buy more set and they get money. Sure they could say they did this because unreliable printing but they’ve been improving on this for years, we went from the French mustache stormtroopers to the godly rogue one stormtroopers. People want stormtroopers, even if they hate the helmet, hell I buy many of them for their bodies and try to sell or replace the dual molded helmets and with the older helmets. Helmet holes can be ignore because the helmet still does fit into a Lego look and aesthetic, but the stormtrooper helmet does not look Lego
Neither the holes or the new stormtrooper helmets are problems in my opinion. I like the customization options that the holes have given for p2 clones and I personally prefer the look of the new stormtrooper helmets to the old ones.
It’s ok to like the new stormtrooper helmets and everyone has their own opinion I just personally don’t like them and there are the flaws mentioned in the video. And it is good to be able to customize the p2 clones but I don’t think it was done in the best way and my next video is going to be about that.
@DK_Studios_ There really wasn't a better way for Lego to add the customization to p2 helmets, though? If the holes were in the right spots, then the visors wouldn't work with the new helmets, and if they made new visors, then those visors and the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with the p1 and Mandalorian helmets, which would limit customization for kids. Lego went the route that, while it doesn't look the best, makes the most sense from a toy company perspective and allows for the most croos-helmet customization options.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102they should’ve just made a new visor mould, big deal. The rangefinder is comically high up on the new holes and the visor literally gets stretched in them so it doesn’t work in the phase 1 helmets as well as it just flops about
I definitely agree with the stormtrooper helmets but seriously? Helmet holes? I personally think that its great because then you can put visors rangefinders and macro binoculars.
The idea of helmet holes is good but they are placed on the wrong part of the helmet so they look bad on clones without any attachments but I’m currently working on a video on helmet holes that will be coming soon so I can explain my points better
Sorry had a few audio issues in this one
They dont need new design they need to return to the old design
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It would be cool if they released a dual molded version of the old version. Best of both worlds 🤷♂️
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The worst part is that you can’t move the helmets to a side. How else are you going to pose your figures for mocs? So stupid😔
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You can't properly turn the old Stormtrooper helmets either, though?
That is true but you have to pop up the new one a lot more and it looks a lot worse
@CloneCommanderCrater1102 you can turn them a little bit, and a little is better than nothing.
Am I the only one who thinks OT had too much Product Runs? We need more PT, Disney+, Sequel Stuffs (Such as ROTS FinalDuel sets)
I think LEGO is going to stay away from the sequels as they are very controversial but I agree we need more sets from the PT and a little less from the cw even though it’s very popular now and hopefully we will get some rots sets for the 20th anniversary
No I agree with you. The only thing that I would add to this is the fact that the designers feel the need to change the design every few years. I think the helmets were great in 2014 and I can’t understand why the designers went through the trouble of making a new mold, which theoretically cost them more money when no one was asking for one
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I think the stormtrooper helmets are fine dude looking at the comparisons they look pretty accurate (not gonna lie that outro is W)
I think past versions have just been better and the helmets are to long (thx about the outro)
@@DK_Studios_ The comparison to family guy helmets kinda match up
I think the real problem with the newer clone helmets is that people are not used to seeing holes on Phase II helmets. The Phase I and Mando helmet remolds had holes right away and noone is complaining.
In my opinion helmet holes on Phase II should have been a thing from the start. Rex and Crosshair just looked so cheap and underwhelming without their range finders and clones like Cody are now possible. No longer redoing Commander Gree over and over again. Lego's given us the clone figures we want as well as the ability to better mix and match pieces, making custom clone officers like we used to in the good old The Clone Wars days.
I’m planning on making my next video about helmet holes but the problem is that for the range finders the holes are above where they should be and I will cover the visors in the video (which is it’s own problem) and yeah even tho the old stuff to customize the clones are dated it would be cool if they brought it back.
@@DK_Studios_ Yes, that's true of course, the range finder is supposed to be plugged into the "ear" while the visor is mounted on top of it. At least the visor is in the right spot. Question is, what if Lego decided to put the ear a little bit higher? Maybe that may look awkward, arguable less accurate (as far as a Lego minifig can be accurate) and then we would have another problem. But placing the holes lower would then result in the visor beeing placed at the wrong height and making an altered mold for it would result in weird angled mounting points. I can't think of a solution that is perfect, aside from going all on with custom molds, adding a P2 helmet with a single hole on the ear for a range finder, another P2 helmet for the visor addon or with the visor already integrated and no holes for regular helmets but then again this would defeat the whole purpose of those holes if we can't use them for customization, to lego with them.
Either way, Lego had to choose one compromise over the others.
That's why I believe, the holes should have been there right away. In that case they could've created a P2 mold that is meant for adding stuff. But now they just edited an older mold that wasn't meant for that.
Lego could still do an entire remold for P2 helmets to make them look good AND customizable. But then again, people would be mad, I would be mad. We haven't waiten for so long to get Cody, Rex and Fives just for them to be outdated once a new helmet mold arrives.
It's a really tricky situation and I can absolutley see all where all opinions are coming from.
Exactly I think that’s a big problem and that is especially what my next video will be about
@@DK_Studios_ Will be looking foward to it🙂
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Helmet holes was done better on Clone wars phase one helmets. And the OG stormtrooper helmet was a better mold than the current ones
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Duel mold helmet lego wants to avoid misrpints people got misprints for stormtrooper
That is true but the dual mold does not look good as they did it poorly but a dual mold could work if they redesigned it.
Finally someone said it. The new stormtrooper helmets are way worse than helmets holes. It looks like it was just smushed down or beat with a mallet. The 2014 stormtrooper is the best
2014 stormtroopers are goated
Still the fat helmets and warped clone prints are bad as well
The Tantive Hallway was the first set I've bought with this helmet.
W it’s a great set
Neither of these are that bad to me, I think both "problems" are overblown imo.
That’s fair especially the helmet holes is overblown but I still think they’re both still problems
I think this is an issue that has very much been overshadowed by the helmet holes, which I feel shouldn’t be ignored as it makes the figure look much worse in comparison. They definitely should reverse it or make improvements. I wonder how this has affected army building? 🤔💭For me, I definitely haven’t gotten nearly as many as the previous versions.
Fr I hope they change around the helmets for the better as they do seem to have done that every few years in the past
I don't get the thing about the holes, they are just plastic little brick guys, they aren't meant to be that realistic, I think the og clone helmets better represented they were simply Lego, now the new design of helmets for storm troopers, yes not good
I just think it’s sad that the quality has gone down over time
@@DK_Studios_ yeaaa sure did, my first few sets was the snow trooper battle pack, the rebel trooper battle pack, the battle of naboo, clone trooper battle pack, mandolorian battle pack, elite clone trooper and commando droid battle pack and endor trooper and imperial trooper battle pack
Sold all my Legos from 2010-2023 for 50, just how it was at the time, shouldn't of but, yeaaa
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Helmet holes are a massive improvement over the old helmets. And the general sculpt of the newer helmets fits modern Lego design way better.
I truly do not understand why people act like helmet holes are a problem in any way. Are people going to complain about legs having holes on the back? Or the hands just being claws? Lego figures are caricatures and don't need 100% perfect accurate detail.
The reason people complain is because it looks like there are are 2 sets of holes which looks bad and I’m going to be talking about it in my next video
They completely don’t. Every other helmet except the stormtrooper has accurate proportions, especially the scout and TIE helmets. The clown helmets make them so fat and warp the printing, just look at the 332nd and 212th helmets. And then they don’t even work that well, the visor gets stretched by then since it’s not designed for that helmet and then the rangefinder is comically high up so much that Lego changed its placement on one of their boxes. This entire thing could’ve been solved by putting the holes in the right place, like in GCCs new Rex helmet which is perfection
And how hard is it for you people to understand no one hates the actual holes they just hate where they are because they look ugly af
@@omarbaba9892 "how hard is it for you people to understand" is a really weird attempt at an ad hominem attack, which is a fallacious argument. Please respond in a more coherent and measured way.
@@Ankh_The_Artist no because half the arguments I see for helmet holes think people hate them for the fact holes are actually there, that’s just plain false
@@omarbaba9892 I really do not care. You're complaining that a caricature toy is not 100% perfectly accurate. That's absurd. Please go outside and interact with people off the internet. Stop spamming my notifications with replies
i do not understand the turning helmet argument. i couldn't turn my older helmets either so what gives. I personally prefer the newer helmets over the older ones.... They look better than the 2014 ones....
2014 are the best ones
I and many other people think the 2014 look the best though you can have your own opinion. Also the helmet turning thing is also a problem on older stormtroopers just especially these ones as you really have to have them pop up to turn them.
@@DK_Studios_ i disagree. 2008 ones are the best ones. 2014 is a little too overdetailed it looks a bit weird. It's 2008 then 2019 then 2014
Valid I just don’t like the modern ones
I don't mind the modern Storm trooper helmet at all?
I mean your open to your own opinion
I take back everything bad I’ve thought about the helmet holes and the Rebels Stormtrooper helmets. At least those can still be posed. 😂
One of the best points, I definitely agree
Thx
I’m definitely not a fan of the newer Stormtroopers helmets. I complain about them all the time lol
Not talked about enough
2008 Stormtrooper helmets are better than the 2020 Stormtrooper helmets.
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I thought they got rid of the helmet holes. The troopers from the 501st pack don't have them.
@@dutchmansmine9053 sadly they didn’t remove them and the 501st battlepack came out before they added helmet holes
Personally I think that look good and the dual molding is really cool, but the possibility SUCKS!
Idk why but I actually really like the Stormtroopers. I do think the 2014 design is still good though
I mean I don’t like them but everyone can have their opinion.
no your right about this
Thanks I feel like it isn't talked about enough
Peter Griffin Storm Trooper Helmets
Fr fr
What about droid atack on Wookies?
Modern day stormtroopers are literally trash
Facts
So I’m going to address this from a LEGO and artistic point of view rather than function point of view.
This helmet is garbage because it’s not LEGO. Almost all thing LEGO make has a certain artistic aesthetic. It makes them look and have a feeling of LEGO.
Lego minifigs are separate form action figure by look because of the unique body shapes and proportion, it’s not the shape of a human, but it represents on in a Lego way. The Lego hands are like c-clamps while our real hands have fingers, yet we can compare them as similar, as hands.
The stormtrooper helmet design does not fit Lego, it attempts for an ultra hyper accurate helmet (Which it isn’t even, it’s too elongated) yet in the process of making it more “realistic” it looks less lego. It has a poor shape, poor size, and poor coloring (I will get to that in a bit). It looks like it’s for an action figure, NOT for Lego, this is what so many people hate about it without knowing why, the people then nitpick on detail they could point out like not turning the helmet, but in all aspects, it doesn’t look Lego, it feels wrong to look at.
Here we can compare to the newer and older Darth Vader Lego helmet, both of which are still Lego in looks. The original Lego earth Vader helmet had the perfect Lego silhouette, even if the shape wasn’t accurate, it looked Lego and thus matched with the Lego body proportions. The new Vader helmet while more realistic maintained a Lego look however since it was scaled very well and did not conflict with the Lego body and take all the visual strength. The helmet was not too small and not too big. The new stormtrooper helmet however fails at this. The helmet is massive, its chin makes the helmets appear far too large, throwing off the size scaling balance for helmets and the minifigures body, now it makes it look like you placed an action figure helmet onto Lego. This more “realistic” look made this worse as the helmet not only took away the visual focus from the entire figure and focused it towards the helmet, but the size made it stand out even more, making the torso less noticeable. People notice the helmet looks off because their eyes focus on it, its massive size and non Lego like look make it stand out as a problem and look wrong.
Next the torso and legs aid in making the helmet and legs look worse. Notice how Lego does not make the stormtroopers have black hips, well the black hips played such an important visual role. The lines on the stormtrooper armor are thin and black, our human eyes however instinctively noticing the things that stand out, the thicker lines, because of this, when the black hips were replaced by white hips, what part contains the most visually striking amount of black? The helmet, the eyes and forehead line. With poor scaling the lines and eyes are thick black, while everything on the legs and torso are thin black lines, this makes the helmets even more focused on as well as making it not even match the body artistically
If anything this seems like a way for Lego to find a way to jack up the price of minifigures and give a crap justification with little complaints.
Lego is doing this forced exclusiveness for Star Wars minifigures, notice how in the past (2001-2012ish) or something, they gave way more minifigures in general, while most sets now in comparison have so little. Lego wants you to buy more set and they get money. Sure they could say they did this because unreliable printing but they’ve been improving on this for years, we went from the French mustache stormtroopers to the godly rogue one stormtroopers.
People want stormtroopers, even if they hate the helmet, hell I buy many of them for their bodies and try to sell or replace the dual molded helmets and with the older helmets.
Helmet holes can be ignore because the helmet still does fit into a Lego look and aesthetic, but the stormtrooper helmet does not look Lego
Crazy long essay but yeah I read it and agree with you.
Neither the holes or the new stormtrooper helmets are problems in my opinion. I like the customization options that the holes have given for p2 clones and I personally prefer the look of the new stormtrooper helmets to the old ones.
It’s ok to like the new stormtrooper helmets and everyone has their own opinion I just personally don’t like them and there are the flaws mentioned in the video. And it is good to be able to customize the p2 clones but I don’t think it was done in the best way and my next video is going to be about that.
@DK_Studios_ There really wasn't a better way for Lego to add the customization to p2 helmets, though? If the holes were in the right spots, then the visors wouldn't work with the new helmets, and if they made new visors, then those visors and the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with the p1 and Mandalorian helmets, which would limit customization for kids. Lego went the route that, while it doesn't look the best, makes the most sense from a toy company perspective and allows for the most croos-helmet customization options.
I agree with a lot of that with it hard to compromise all the customization and I’m going and try to go over all of that in the next video
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102they should’ve just made a new visor mould, big deal. The rangefinder is comically high up on the new holes and the visor literally gets stretched in them so it doesn’t work in the phase 1 helmets as well as it just flops about
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I definitely agree with the stormtrooper helmets but seriously? Helmet holes? I personally think that its great because then you can put visors rangefinders and macro binoculars.
The idea of helmet holes is good but they are placed on the wrong part of the helmet so they look bad on clones without any attachments but I’m currently working on a video on helmet holes that will be coming soon so I can explain my points better
The family guy stormtrooper helmet
For the Empire
By this point, I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that new stormtrooper helmet design is good.
I mean it's fair to have your own opinion
How? It doesn’t even look like the stormtrooper that much
? I though you said you liked the new helmet
@@DK_Studios_ it's other guy here who replied.
@@Nothing_nothing_me oh that’s mb that makes more sense
1:25 That's my meme though.
I mean I made it but I wouldn't be surprised if there were other similar ones
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Well I hope you understand my points
The trooper is FINE 😢
I’m glad you think so but I hope you can understand where I’m coming from