The Rise and Fall of Empire Earth
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During the early 2000s, real-time strategy games were booming. From Blizzard and Westwood’s fantastical machinations, to Creative Assembly and Ensemble Studios’ historical excursions, the genre had a game in almost every style and setting conceivable - and they were all consistently great.
Yet of all these games, few offered as wide a scope as Stainless Steel Studios’ inaugural title, Empire Earth. The brainchild of Rick Goodman, who had previously helped conceive Age of Empires during Ensemble’s infancy, Empire Earth allowed players to embark on a tour of human history the likes of which had never been seen before, one that started at the dawn of human civilization, ended in the far-flung future, and offered an unparalleled level of customizability the entire way through.
While it wouldn’t prove the most prolific game of this era, it would have no trouble finding an audience willing to evangelize it, as well as continue to support it once expansions and sequels would start arriving from a new developer, Mad Doc Software. But almost as soon as Mad Doc would show itself mostly capable of living up to the high bar set by Stainless Steel, it would irreparably corrupt the series’ formula - scaring off its fan base, and sending it into a slumber from which it has yet to wake.
This is a story about an improbable real-time strategy series, and all that was great about it. Yet this is also a story about the importance of balancing one’s desire to branch out and reach new audiences, and keeping true to what it is that people came to love about one’s work in the first place.
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All i want is an HD remake of emipre earth.
We all do my friend ...... We all do
I want Empire Earth IV that is based of EE II
I think this would've happened by now if Empire Earth was sprite based instead of 3d, from what I understand of game development it seems a lot easier to improve sprites then to remake entire 3d models.
With less scummy A.I.!
More like the same treatment from the definitive editions from Age of Empire games, only that they don't fuck up the soundtrack.
EE1 was one of my childhood games, I loved this game, it's still good
People still play it on neoee servers
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@@alexd3176
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I remember playing it like crazy. Totally loved the concept, and tho i like aoe3, it lacks some things ee1 has
yes so true its been 12 years i still play it some times when bored
Turns out I was not bad at this as a kid. The A.I. was a cheating bastard!
Jokes on it, I was a cheating bastard aswell!
@@Hanfgurkenhasser But the cheats are also applied to the AI lol.
Lmao same, the Russian campaign was so fucking hard
@@Hanfgurkenhasser my name is methos
I never noticed the A.I. was cheating...
...because I was cheating too.
I love how Empire Earth III basically showed what not to do with you game and fanbase and then Dawn of War III basically did the exact same thing. Studios, it's simple; when you have a franchise that works and is appealing to a dedicated fanbase, trying to make it have "mass appeal" is going to be the disillusionment and death of said dedicated fanbase.
Speaking of which, "The Rise and Fall of Dawn of War" would be a fitting follow up to this video.
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Age of Empires took good note from this.
The massive problem plaguing gaming indistry rn now is they devs have to answer to some out of touch weirdos who run the company but barely play games.
@@satyakisil4289 Still wonder who thought AoE IV was a good idea
It doesn’t help when the “mass appeal” efforts aren’t even appealing to the masses.
Even seeing the cover for Empire Earth 3 gets me feeling itchy
henlo
Sir, you make amazing content I am always ready for more.
Wow you are right good stuff man
Hey hey people
Will we ever get ee
Empire Earth brings so many good memories
For me as well. Hearing the music and sound effects brings back so many memories.
@@slimpickens7480 same
My 13 year old self is screaming: "Remember this! Back when you used to be happy and care free! And you got to hang out with your friends in a virtual world." The good old days.
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@@RobFitz you can say that again i play this more then i play the updated games now days, i should start streaming on the old games again.
I remember playing the first EE with my dad, good times. Also, screw the people who didn't like EE1's voice acting, it was perfect.
Who could ever forget the sound male citizens and soldiers made when they died? They sounded like they were puking lol.
EE's voice acting is FLAWLESS
Stone age is my favorite Epoch.
The voice acting in spanish is simply beautiful too... :')
@@cordovanhobbyist895 STOMA
@@arn3107 TALOS
Oh the memories. I remembered playing AoE2, Stronghold Crusader, & Empire Earth on my Brother's PC from saturday night until sunday morning LOL
Same
that was my combo for my early gaming years.
I have the same story. we didn't have AoE but my older brother and I played total war, empire earth, and stronghold crusader.
I remember my small brother playing AoE2, Stronghold Crusader, & Empire Earth on my PC from saturday night until sunday morning while I was in my night shift :D
You forgot Warcraft
The nostalgia is so intense that this hurts to watch
Oh, the memories... This is going to be a ride! Thanks, GVMERS. "Empire Earth" needs this.
acepedro12 funny thing is, i was looking for my old copy then half hour later, this video dropped lol
I loved Empire Earth. Such a great game during that golden age RTS gave during our childhood or teen time.
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@@Boom12remember spending HOURS playing II and III on multiplayer as a kid. dragoons and grenadiers was my sheet👌
You guys keep raising the bar in quality in your videos amazing work guys.
How so? This video is great and all, but it's quality strikes me as the same as the ones before it.
dude they even mention all the peoples names. its so inspiring to see someone honor all the people that have made my childhood what it is . until this channel i feel like i always took advantage of these games not knowing the trials and errors they had to go through to make my childhood possible. its amazing
Pattern of Randomness Awww, not Eurogamer!
Seriously. This is 'get picked up by Netflix' quality.
Dunno. The script needed an editor's look. Repetition and the use of same expressions close to each other is something these guys tend to do often.
Empire Earth was the first game I ever got from my father. He couldn't buy me a lot of games since he died when I was young. This title will always be in my heart, I played it literally for years and it will be forever installed on my PC. The campaigns were super satisfying and the multiplayer was just breathtaking. You could create clans, add/remove members, friend and unfriend certain players, play together, against each other, against AI and so on. Different strategies were needed for different epochs, and the most popular modes were only allowing 1 epochs and focusing on battles in that given era. Peace Time was also a thing, so if you were slower at building your armies you could still enjoy playing if it was set by the lobby leader. Otherwise rushes were allowed and was a common strategy by many players. Here you said that the voice acting was not that great in Empire Earth, but I want to point it out that this game was released in other languages as well, with completely native voice acting as well. I'm from Hungary and the Hungarian voice acting is just freaking amazing, I still recall most of the iconic lines and even some casual unit's lines as well. This was the first ever online game where I was part of a community, made friends from all around the globe, became a member of a clan, played almost competitively against other clans and also played for fun against other people. The skill gap in this game was huge among players. I remember that I was pretty good in the Middle Ages, but couldn't win a single match in Industrial Age. Different epochs, different nations, different buffs, units and strategies. It made the game unique and challenging. The fact that it had its own social hub was the best thing for me. When they shut down their online servers, I literally cried for days and I still remember the sadness that I felt as a child. There were attempts of bringing back to life the multiplayer hub, but eventually the players lost interest in trying to resolve all the bugs and issues that came with alternative solutions. Everyone should give this game a go. Google NeoEE and you will find how you can still play it.
That cinematic intro in the first Empire Earth. I remember loving it so much when I was a child. I really thought I'd live long enough to see futuristic mechs back then. hehe
When I was in university, every Friday, we would go to the CS labs and install Empire Earth on the computers and play on the LAN till dawn. We became highly competent at the game. During the summer some of our core members were away so i decided to train some noobs. After they had learned the basics I announced that we were going to play a real competitive game, the two noobs against me. I quickly scouted them out and realized that they were focusing on building their economy and were not exploring. I went 100% economy. They both hit the bronze age and decided to go all military, they both build pop cap sized armies and marched on my position. They understood that they outnumbered me 2:1 their excitement (and shit talking) grew as they began to believe they could actually defeat me. Half way to my base strange shadows began moving across the land followed by a score of mushroom clouds rising out of their ranks.
That remains the single most satisfying experience I have ever had in a video game.
Snipers?
@@TheLionManOnline Sounds like he advanced to at least the WW2 age in the time it took them to get to Bronze and was dropping nukes on them while they were still using swords and shields.
That does sound satisfying
A few years before that many of us were in those same CS labs playing "Taipan" on the Apple II. lol Many great times...
Love the golden age of RTS, kinda sad seeing not many RTS games being made nowadays (but I'm glad Warcraft3 and AoE2 got remakes in development)
Empire Earth the downside for me was the pathfinding, even if it's not balanced at all
*cough Priest Tower cough*
StarCraft Remastered is great too, and StarCraft II was so good that it kind of killed the rest of the genre but the new co-op mode is fun if you don't like the high-pressure atmosphere of online multiplayer.
Warcraft's remake looks like hot shit though, just like most neo-blizzard games
There were quite a lot of re-releases of good obscure classics like Metal Fatigue, Rising Kingdoms and so on.
Knights of Honour is coming back too
Grunf, man of culture. And although KoH is not RTS but rather Real-Time Grand Strategy game (an important distinction), I am rejoiced that we’ll get a sequel. I loved the original KoH for it’s atmosphere and approachability.
"This is also a story about balancing one's desire to branch out and reach new audiences, and keeping true to what it is that people came to love about one's work in the first place."
Sadly, I feel like this can be said for most games that have risen and fallen...
Keep up the great work everyone!
Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War is probably one of the most underrated rts games ever made.
Me and my family still play over lan to this day. Great fun!
Lucky bastard! wish I could play lan or even online with pc and my bro.
@Grim Reaper NZ Moddb has a download for the mp, which has skirmish.
the problem of rise and fall is the devs vision was way ahead of the game engine capability
The most underrated was Empires Down of the Modern World, it was a fantastic rts.
Empire Earth II is one of my favourite RTS games of all time. I miss it so much, it's a shame what became of the franchise
There is an online community on EE2
Also there is a kickass unofficial 1.5 patch that adds a crap ton of utilities, bug fixes and compatibility options on newer systems.
Also, it’s on GOG for dirt cheap.
This sentiment seems to have merit with most games of that game.
I still play EE2, got it off GOG
@@Infidel.. Same 😁
Rise and fall civilisation at War is a criminaly underrated RTS game, it was nice seeing it included in the video.
I was so surprised that gem made an appearance on this video. Bought it for $5 at a book store when I was a kid and thought it was the coolest rts' at the time.
I remember playing the first one when I was a kid, struggling to get a single victory against the AI that wasn't either nuke-spamming or using THAT cheat code, you know which one. Good times, if frustrating.
The series lost me completely with 3, when they decided to make the game less complex without making each epoch deeper, what a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
AI is indeed impossible, they know where you are, what you build, fart resources out of their asses and they build faster than anfetamine soaked circus monkeys can run
Either nukes to hell or get the civ with conversion towers and spam that shit so you can fight fire with fire.
Had a game on the hardest difficult and after 14h total game time plane spam and warship spam manage to overrun me completely, I could not mount counter offensive at all
MY NAME IS METHOS
Kilo
Fuck, that's some nostalgia
@@eduardoscorpio ai cheating but u can beat him pretty easy (more then 7 hours per game)
For me the dead sentence was with the EE2, the 3 was a completely shit xD
I played Empire Earth for the first time in 2006, And I still remember how dificult and Immersive it was to passed more than 1 hour in the pre historic age just to finally reach the stone age....
EPIC!
The original empire earth still remains the best rts game of all time. I still play it. Thru should've just continued to perfect the original formula.
Chris Lambert aoe2 is better
@@borkwoof696 I loved empire earth but did think Age of Empires Age of Kings was better, although all fall short of the glory of Warcraft 3.
For me Empires Down of the Moder World was a lot better than Empire Earth. It was the best real rts of ww2.
@@KawaiianArgument on EE all the units are the same. In Empires every unit was different even the villagers, not only that, every civ was completely different in economy,techs,powers... totally different ways to play for every civ. And most of the units very accurate in stats and how they look, plus units with unic abilitys. For me was really better than the others rts of that time. WC3 is completely different game, the hero is the key of that game.
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oh man, that moment
GVMERS make a review of a RTS you loved and later broke your heart.
Empires: Dawn of the Modern World was the first videogame i played, and i remember it very fondly. The music was great! And the campaigns too...
God I miss Empire Earth so much... I remember getting incredibly frustrated with it and feeling incredible after finally beating the game.
Thanks for bringing back the memories, GVMERS!
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EE2 is still an amazing game. Actually quite easy to grasp if some dedication is put into it. The scenario editor is a bit complex but nothing one can't get down with time and practise.
When Empire Earth 3 came out I was all like: "Look how they massacred my boy"
Oh well! Back to play the Russian Campaign of EE1. I'm coming Gregor, my old friend...
plus it was the frist ond only title not to be pg 12 I and dont get why it is 18+
Really? Never noticed. Probably because of this terrifying sound the workers make when they die. Haha
The German campaign was my favourite
"It's ok Yuri this truck is full of potatoes"
@@darthportus "You may pass......"
the quality of this channel is impeccable, I'm new to it but really enjoy your content!!
first game is a legend from my childhood, still play it sometimes, never even tested the sequels
God, I would love to see new RTS like in the early 2000s. I know there are smaller studios that are creating some, but I would like to see old RTS series come back.
Empire Earth II is one of my childhood games. I still have the words "Empire Earth II tutorial" and their cadence etched into my subconscious forever.
"We're Under ATTACK"
Read that in the voice 😆
"I know we are :("
Wolo lo looooooo
Eng is not my native language. In those days, I used to think that the voice said "beyonder attack"
As someone who never played it my feelings on watching this was "I can see why people like it, even if it didnt work for me." Then I saw EE3 and my reaction was "what the hell is this abomination?" I feel so sorry for all the fans of the series, a terrible thing to see the series evolve into a monster with no shred of its former identity.
Great Video as always ! May I suggest the next one ? One about the Battle For Middle Earth games would be awesome !
Ain't like it failed tho
I love BFME but it didn't fail. They just stopped making them because I guess there are only so much you can to with LOTR before having to go too deep into Tolkien lore for more content for the casual gamer. Also RTS and strategy games in general was becoming oversaturated and people got tired of it so they just stopped I guess. And now EA doesen't hold the rights to LOTR anymore but they still own BFME so no one can make new games or remasters sadly:(
@@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 also they've done with them movies
Absolutely amazing video. The dates, the names, the interviews, I can't imagine how much research and editing went into this. You guys are incredibly appreciated.💜
My brothers and I still play EE and absolutely love it! Played an overnight 6 hour game last night and then found this video - excellent work!
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I'd almost forgotten about Empire Earth and Empires: Dawn of the Modern World. I spent many hours on those as a kid. Never played EE2 or 3 but I really enjoyed the first one and Empires Dawn of the Modern World.
When gog was very new one of the very first free games they gave out was empire earth. I've been a customer of theirs since buying so many old games like commandos, heroes 3, and flatout.
I remember the first time I saw this game played by my cousin in 2001. I was instantly impressed and hooked. Ended up buying the Gold edition of Empire Earth that came with all expansions and Prima games strategy guides and other cool stuff. I played that game through high school and beyond.
Bruh empire earth is my addiction
I hope they would reboot this game. By far the best RTS game out there. EE2 Gold Edition was better than AOE2 in my opinion.
same, i got age of empires 4 just cause i used to play empire earth when i was like 5 or 6 but it just doesnt have the same feeling like empire earth
Yeah, totally. AoE2 is so overrated... Many call it the best RTS of all times, but I say it wasn't even the best at it's time of release, both StarCraft and EEbwere much better... EE was way more fun and SC had better multiplayer
So many memories with the RTS genre and Homeworld was amazing. Game deserves more recognition
Homeworld is considered one of the best rts ever made...More recognition?
@@6StimuL84 Yeah I know but it is generally older PC gamers that sing its praise. I think it was just the timing of it's release. PC gaming wasn't huge then and I know a lot of console gamers who have never heard of it and why would they when you had Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and Silent Hill landing block busters then. I know the first one did alright in sales but i don't think it's ever been stellar in selling copies or we would have had more than four games in what like 20 years+ (Excluding remasters).
You guys are awesome. Its astonishing how much detail and thought you put into every video. You deserve way more viewers and support.
The quality of this channel's content is simply amazing. Keep up the good work!
Man I haven't thought about Empire Earth in years, I'm actually stoked to watch this lol
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I first was introduced to Empire Earth 2 decided to stick with that one since 3 was terrible according to many reviews at the time. I still have my copy of Empire Earth II it's next to me on the shelf. I might just install it after this video
EDIT: I'm installing 2
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Empire Earth was my first RTS game. It birthed a love that lives on to this day as I load up Total War Warhammer II
Legacy of Kain should be the next series this channel tackles, the format GVMERS have would be a perfect for that beloved series.
The quality of your work is unparalleled. Please consider a video on the “Myth: The Fallen Lords” series from Bungie.
Beautiful work, as always!
I know you haven't watched the whole video yet. Its 2min old.
I honestly screamed when I saw this pop up in my feed!!! Thank you!!
You guys can always make me interested in the history of games I would never play. Love it good job!
One of the first series I played as a kid
Rick Goodman came to my house with a Dev built of Empire Earth when I was a kid. He's a great guy, also let me come to Boston to play test the game.
I miss Stainless Steel Studios.
Also put my name in the game manual too.
I never skip ads for you guys because of the amazing quality. Keep up the great work 👍
This game was the love of my childhood i actually specially bought this game of eBay just last year to relive my love
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i would love a docu on the history of xcom
Empire Earth needs a definitive edition.
EE2 is SO satisfying to play, specially when you start getting huge 500+ armies
I love EE1 and EE2, along with age of mythology and stronghold crusaders, they were the definition of my childhood years
Brings back childhood memories hours upon hours on Multiplayer.. Dragoons and grenadiers was my shit!
The Empire Earth series was my favorite series of all time, and Empire Earth 2 is still to this day my favorite RTS of all time. I remember coming home from school and jumping into online matches almost every day. At one point I was in the top 10 on the leader board for a few days. I really want to pick it back up again, it's been a couple of years. It's such a damn shame the direction that EE3 took. It could have been the best RTS ever made.
Makin dragoons really fast to go f**k up other players town halls before they make an army😂
I grew up with this game. My Father used to wake up all night playing this game with me on 2v2 Hard A.I..... Good memory!
OMG DUDE! SAME!
I play Dawn of the Modern World to this day, you can get it on GOG.
The best rts of ww2 I ever play
I loved this game and series and I'm very glad you made this video...this is my introduction to your channel as well
The amount of effort put into these things, plus your butter-smooth voice, is outstanding.
This is a good example that sometimes we put too much pressure on some really nice games, we say "its good, but not as good as... age of empires 2" but we have to consider that age of empires 2 is really unique, even AoE 3 which was a nice game was treated too harshly. After a while we dont have RTS, we have a lot of 4X games, a few grand strategy paradox like, a few anno like but we killed the RTS genre
man i used to play this alot way back. great video as always!!!
how about rise and fall of battle realms?
Well it was an innovative game (with an awesome multiplayer) which flopped really badly. Liquid to my knowledge only does game adaptations of movie fanchises like Thor.
Jesus you guys never cease to amaze me! Truly one of the best documentary style gaming channels out there! Keep up the great work!
EE was a huge part of my childhood.
Thank you for this.
Still waiting on the rise and fall of my life... it's easy to do... it's mostly fall.
Mine too 😫
Can relate
You can't fall if you never rise.
Empire Earth was my favorite game to play growing up, it was a bit buggy and unbalanced , but I didn't know any better...
since the AI cheated I would usually when starting a new map immediately run to my nearest ally and move my base near to them so we could together fight and manage to defeat the AI
Literally forgot this was a series, this is why I love GVMERS!
this was the first RTS game i ever played and i feel in love with it
Empire Earth 2 is the best game all time! I love it so much.
I hope so see it come back some day, id love to see Empire Earth 2, but on steriods, more units, bigger maps etc/, the old formula is fine, I just want to see a new game take advantage of modern hardware
I concur with the honk
What a wonderful work. I really enjoy these documentaries your making.
This was my first multiplayer (over the internet) game ever, and the voiceacting was ON POINT!
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Also a lot of the RTS audience moved to grand strategy games like EUIV, CK2 etc.
I also feel like the Total War games still have retained the same audience for awhile too.
If you just auto-resolve all battles total war games become light-weight paradox games.
@@jovand6606 So don't auto resolve the battles then lol
I didn't mean it as a bad thing tbh, most of my battles in total war games start one sided anyways
These are good games, but I would rather have a classic rts experience where you manage your resources and preduce military units while defending yourself at the same time
Empire Earth 3 is RTS equivalent of Superman 64
I could never love any of the sequels like I did the first game, I still play it to this day. I must have almost 10k hours on it from age 6 to 21. The scenario creator never lets the game get old, the simplistic UI and the immense customizations are unmatched
Another fantastic in-depth documentary. This is great work.
2021: The Rise and Fall of Age of Empires
They need to remake Empire Earth or have some Spiritual Successor.
If there's any Spiritual Successor to Empire Earth, I don't know it.
Empires: Dawn of the Modern World(same studio)
and Rise of Nations
Your production quality and broad vocabulary make these videos AAA. FUCKING THANK YOU
This channel is awesome as hell
first EE is my first game on pc. i am russian, live in siberia.
Whn are you gonna make Novaya Russia
No you’re Siberian
@@J1N6666 let me guess you had the pirate version
@@J1N6666 no, but is crazy and funny scenario. i want to Novaya Russia in real life...
@@dragoxk4542 i live near of lake baikal. now this is a far east region not siberia anymore since 2018...
Age of Empires but from the stone age to the future? Hell yeah!
Wait Rockstar, what are you doing? Wait, no!!!!!!
I’ve been waiting for this from you guys. Thank you
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Awesome video! Empire Earth 2 remains one of my most favorite RTSs!
Rise and Fall of Battle Realms please :)
At one time I thought I was watching a discovery channel documentary
The best part of Empire Earth 1, was that damn AI, was so challenging to play against it, a match vs 2 of them could take several hours
As always tremendous quality, Empire Earth 2 is a game i still play on the community mod server's.
Amazing work as always, keep it up!
"during the early 2000s" all the late 90s RTS games are crying in the corner right now.
total annihilation, kknd, dark reign....
i light a candle to KKND-X and DR.. TA will never die not since steam and GOG had it on sale reviving parts of it i loved my EE even EE2 some what... 3 was so blah
Late 90’s and early 2000’s best time for RTS gamers
@@justiny.1773 and also the best moment for CRPG genre..
So the moral of the story is don't cater to the normies I guess?
There's no moral in a story in which everyone is destined to die, regardless of what they do. The whole genre faded way.
Genre is still here i hope for a good rts one day
Yup. It ruined C&C and it ruined Empire Earth
I hate when they take a great game and try to make it into a mobile game, an MMO, or an overly simplified version to cater to a wider range of people. They almost always wind up watering down the quality and turn unique games into bland, homogeneous dross.
I think there is some argument to be made that cult followers that clicked this video would have kept a decent EE "threequel" alive through patronage. But it's hard to say like the video implies.
Your voice makes these documentaries 100× better.
Loved EEII A LOT back in the days. Was one of the first games
all I want is a Battle Realms Sequel or another good Red Alert game but EA :/
Oh yes pls. Let's talk about Battle Realms...
There was a kickstarter for Battle Realms sequel a couple of years ago. Too bad, it was cancelled as it did met its goal.
Battle Realms is very unique RTS game. Nothing ever come close to the feels & themes even ti this day.
Man Battle Realms was the shit in our childhood. Every kid I knew must've played through it at least once.
I remember a round in EE where my proud stone age fighter carrying a large tree was demolished by the AIs super mech walking out of the water. Now I understand the cheating AI 😂
Thanks GVMER for making my request possible! 😘
thanks it feels great to know what happens to a series of games I love so dearly