The BRUTAL Mother of Queen Victoria
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The BRUTAL Mother of Queen Victoria
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King William LITERALLY stayed alive out of spite! Freaking incredible 😂❤🎉
Can you blame him for that ? That woman was a power hungry witch!
Spite: Truly the most powerful motivatior
He hated her
@@mothermovementashe was a rude woman who presumed too much insulting the King in the process.
I’m cracking up, this man really said he’ll live longer just to spite Victoria
I mean he really hated his sister in law, so yes.
Actually, Queen Adelaide was able bear King William heirs. She gave birth to two daughters, but both died in infancy. If either of them had survived and grown up, Victoria would never have become queen. In fact, that’s the reason that the two Victorias were so underfunded. It was thought that Queen Adelaide would produce an heir that would knock little Victoria out of the line of succession. When it became obvious just she wouldn’t, that was when they started finding Victoria and educating her to be a monarch. I find it fascinating that if either of King Williams daughters had lived, Great Britain would have had a totally different line of monarchs and none of the actual monarchs would ever have been born.
I bet this has happend previously to Victoria as well
Victoria herself was abusive to her own kids, especially Edward VII
She in fact was to Bertie, what we’d call an abusive parent today.
Including blaming Bertie for his father’s death the rest of her life.
Albert was already very sick when he went to confront Bertie at Cambridge for his encounter with Nellie Clifden and it was only a matter of time before his sickness would kill him.
Albert was also thought to have had Crohns Disease which would’ve accounted for his health problems.
That's the main reason I wrote that. She was horrible to Bertie
@@mardrettekemp7182 Victoria was a great queen but she was a real bitch to her children (except for Arthur who could do nothing wrong in her eyes and Beatrice before she met Liko).
Poor Bertie suffered heavily from his abusive mother.
They gave the Borgias a run for their money. What a family!
Two things: One is that from the start, the Duke of Kent had been an extraordinarily doting father to Vic (especially for those times) and wasn't the least disappointed in her gender. He told everyone to take good care of her since SHE (the-then 5th in line) was their future Queen). Moreover,he himself had been told that he'd be the father of 'a great queen' by a Romani woman fortune teller while he had been posted in Gibraltar.
Secondly, the newly widowed and indebted spendthrift Duchess HAD considered returning to Germany but one thing that somewhat tipped the balance in remaining in England was her brother Prince Leopold's providing 3000 Pounds per year out of his 50,000 Pound stipend that he was still receiving for having been the husband of the tragically deceased heiress presumptive Princess Charlotte of Wales (and he'd still receive it at least until 1830 when he opted to become King of the Belgians and quickly married Princess Louise of France).
Edward died when Victoria was a year old and only had her to get out of gambling debts
@@emilybarclay8831 Not entirely true! Yes, after a quarter century of openly living with a childless mistress, after Princess Charlotte's death wiped out the next generation of heirs after George III's offspring, the Duke of Kent quickly dumped the mistress, married a much-younger widowed Continental princess in order to have have a marital heir and an increased stipend. Since Prince Edward of Kent HAD been recorded as having had a nonmarital child by a servant (who'd died in childbirth) decades before and he knew that Victoire, the Dowager Princess of Leiningen had safely borne two children, he knew this would greatly increase his chances of having a healthy heir safely borne. However, it was recorded that he HAD been told he'd be the father of a great Queen by the Romani fortune-teller in Gibraltar and he DID dote on the infant Vic far more than most fathers of his rank of that era! Of course, it also needs to be mentioned that the Duchess of Kent (with the Duke's approval) personally nursed their infant daughter from birth onwards - a fact that was mentioned in 'The Times of London' twice. And she did this despite being derided by virtually all of their Royal and Society cronies who believed that any new mother who could vaguely afford should hire wetnurses to feed their babies until they were weaned (and, in fact, Vic herself opted to do that and was horrified by both her own mother's example as well as at least two of her daughters personally nursing their offspring).Vic was somewhat a bundle of contradictions in that she disapproved of widowed folks remarrying and women doctors in spite of the facts that she herself was the offspring of a remarried widowed who had employed one of the earliest licensed women medical doctors to help deliver her .
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Probably wanted her out of his hair.
@@madgevanness4011 Doubtful because the ,Duke of Kent DID dote on the infant Vic AND was considered the baldest of George III's sons
20:36 I do have to say that Victoria was a LOT more forgiving of her mother than I would be in her shoes.
I think she always remembered the times when Victoire was kind to her.
Wasn't Victoria herself when she was Queen an awful tyrant to her own children she ruled every aspect of their lives so obviously the same as her mother
Although Paternity tests didn't exist back then there is no doubt in my mind that Queen Victoria is the Duke of Kent's biological child. She looks just like him, funny looking with no chin 🥴😂. Anyone with eyes can see she looks like a better version of that man, thanks to her beautiful mother's genes. Also, I do believe the hemophilia came from her mother's side of the family.
Children of older fathers, Duke of Kent was in his 50’s when Victoria was conceived, can have a spontaneously mutated gene that causes hemophilia.
Who doubts it? Victoria and her children all have those big blue bug eyes like all the Hanoverians. Anyone who says otherwise is blind.
@Sophia Rose Exactly! People doubt her paternity due to the royal hemophilia issue starting with her. As if it couldn't have come from her mom's side of the family. Everyone thinks they specialize in genealogy but refuse to use common sense 🥴😂
King George III Had the bug eyes too!
There was no history of hemophilia in either Edward or Victoire’s family. Geneticists say that haemophilia mutations have been observed in advanced maternal age. Edward was in his mid-fifties when he and Victoire conceived, so that seems to me the most likely conclusion.
Hemophilia is in most cases carried by the female line with no effect, it is the male line of the family who suffers the effects.
Females can also have health problems with hemophilia. I have a friend who has it and she and her daughter both have had significant issues. It's normally much worse in men.
One of my most favorite British Monarchs. 💕 Weird parallels: 🫅🏻Queen Victoria’s father and two uncles died in succession to make way for her; Queen Elizabeth II uncle Edward abdicated and then her father died. Ironic that Henry VIII 🤴🏻went through all that trouble for a son when he needn’t have looked past his daughter (Elizabeth I)! The BRF are like living history, archetypes (perfect example) probably why they remain of fascination today. - Fun fact: Queen Victoria gifted American President Rutherford B. Hayes with the Resolute desk (made from the wood of British HMS Resolute ship) that presidents JFK and Barack Obama used in the Oval Office. 👏🏽
Which is so ironic if you think about it. The oval office is a gift from the Brits, the Liberty Statue a gift from the French.
Unfortunately the Duchess of Kent lost her power as soon as she became Queen
Wow! This was fascinating learning about QV’s actual mother and her life. (The unsung great-grandmother of Europe) 👏
Of the UK
Speak for yourself
I imagine that anytime two DNA profiles merge to create a baby a new DNA profile is also created. In Queen Victoria's case it contained hemophilia. Thankfully it seems to have been bred out of the line as the last one was a Prince William who died in a plane crash in the 1972.
PW of Gloucester had Porphyria not hemophilia.
Children of older fathers can have a spontaneously mutated gene that causes hemophilia. The Duke of Kent was in his 50’s when Victoria was conceived
Ferdinand Soltmann, a descendant of both Alice and Alfred (great-grandson of Prince Philip’s sister Princess Margarita of Greece and Denmark and Prince Gottfried of Hohenlohe-Langenburg; Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha’s son ) is thought to be a hemophiliac so maybe it hasn’t been completely bred out of the family.
HRH Prince William of Gloucester was a first cousin of our late Queen Elizabeth II and heir to his fathers Dukedom. Shortly before his death he was thought to have been diagnosed with porphyria not haemophilia. Prince William died when the plane he was piloting in an air race crashed in 1972, just a couple of weeks after his younger brothers wedding. When their father died in 1974 Prince Richard became Duke of Gloucester. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester were amongst the senior working royals at the Coronation of King Charles III.
Queen Victoria's granddaughter Charlotte of Prussia (Vicky's child) had portphyria- her body exhumed and DNA tested.
I really enjoy your videos and narration, thanks 😊
It is possible that James v
of Scotland, as well as his
daughter, Mary Queen of
Scots, also had Porphyria
Both of them exhibited the
symptoms.
James the fifth's parents
were James iv of Scotland
and Margaret Tudor (i.e.
daughter of Henry vii and
of York; Henry the eighth's
sister)
James the fifth's grandson
was James vi of Scotland
(as well as James i of England)
So, we are going back to the
Tudors, Yorks and Stuarts,
as well as their wives' families
to find the earliest links of
Porphyria in the BRF.
The late Prince William of
Gloucester had Porphyria
(He was the current Duke
of Gloucester's older brother
and the great- great-great-
grandson of George iii as
well as one of Queen
Elizabeth ii's cousins)
Some people call Prince
William of Gloucester "the
other Prince William" He
was a very handsome and
daring man who died in
1972 during an airplane
race.
I do not think that there
is a connection between
Porphyria and Haemophilia
(or hemophilia) Although
both diseases are hereditary
Porphyria affects a lot of
people worldwide, so it
is not confined to the
BRF or the Prussian RF
ALSO:
Haemophilia can arise
without a genetic
connection:
"Acquired haemophilia is
associated with cancers,
autoimmune disorders,
and pregnancy" --Wiki
The more inbred a couple
are; the greater the chances
of genetic defects and
weaknesses.
That is because they had babies with a family relative.
It’s due to inbreeding.
Victoria's father did time in Canada he had a mistress or wife and had children. He was recalled to England and married off to produce an heir.
Mistress he had one in France too
The picture at 16:08 is not Queen Victoria. It is Princess Victoria, Princess Royal and future Empress Victoria. Other than that, thank you! This was a really informative video!
Another insightful video. Thanks for sharing.
I noticed that in all the paintings of Queen Victoria,they make her look plump but in the photo of her her she looks pretty lean. In the photo you can see her collar bone a bit of her shoulder bone and her arm looks pretty lean. In the the painting you can’t see any bones, her shoulders are slumped and her arm is plump. I guess that was the fashion?
If you're referring to the photo at 16:00, that's actually a picture of Queen Victoria's daughter, Vicky.
I was just looking at a photo of Queen Victoria at age 35. She was slender then. I think it was the style to put weight on women in paintings. She was attractive and slender at 35 in reality.
Porphyria was passed down by Victoria. Her granddaughter, Princess Charlotte, the daughter of the Queen's first daughter, Vicky, was thought to have porphyria. And others are thought to have it as well. Also, Queen Victoria had the unmistakable eyes of her father, Duke Edward. Those eyes protruded, and were unmistakable sign that she was her father's daughter.
Incredible information, thank you! Well done!
Thank you. I enjoyed your video.
I know its sounds like a horrible childhood for some, but not associating with others and having a dog as a Friend, sounds good to me but each of their own I guess.
She was allowed to play with Conroy’s children. And she had her older 1/2 sister ,Feodora, as a playmate, until Feodora was married
Same, I'would not miss people at ALL.
I think if queen Victoria didn't have the need to produce heirs, she would have been very happy just to be with prince Albert and all of their numerous pets.
I prefer a bunch of cats as friends, but I get your point. 😅
Ummm Queen Victoria had siblings?? I never knew that.
Half siblings.
Me either.. thought she was an only child ??? 🥸
I knew of a sister...
It could be possible that Queen Victoria's maternal side of her family could have been carriers.
Excellent, thank you
Queen Victoria was never a mere Queen of England. She was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and later also Empress of England. The last Queen of England was Queen Elizabeth I, who died in 1603.
Greetings, I truly enjoyed this short film.
AN ODE TO TURQUOISE:
To me the food symbolizes his father's love.. I imagine it representing perhaps hunger, and hardship in the father's childhood. A commentary, on things that in life, we keep unsaid, their horrors, we cannot speak of, or express.
Forgive us.
Certainly a troubled mother daughter relationship for the most part.
William IV reminds me of Charles III
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Victoria, duchess of Kent was not queen mother, since she wasn't queen to begin with
I wouldn’t say Victoire was a brutal person. She allowed Sir John to emotionally abuse her daughter, which was horrible. Ultimately Victoria forgave her, so I think we should do so. Then again, “Queen Victoria’s Emotionally Complex Mother Who Made A Combination of Good and Bad Decisions as A Parent” would make a less interesting title.
Haha this made me laugh! Probably not no 😂
All in the family but it shouldn't take place like that I'm some roots of theirs 😢
You act like Queen Victoria's mother didn't have an entire city of people to do and take care of her 😂😂 after the death of her husband. The poor Queen has been left all alone to take care of and nurture her baby😂😂come on now! 😅 I'm still giggling over that.
In England .. because she was German and did not speak English.
She could have gone home, but she decided on Power of The Throne instead.
Victoria's mother was never a Queen and I don't believe she would have had an entire city of servants as she did not have much money compared to other members of the Royal family
She had to apply for aid / monetary assistance from the English Government - because her baby was Heir Apparent of England by birth, so basically she applyed for a benefit for her fatherless child - and had to stay in England for this whole power takeover to come into effect - through her daughter - ..
Who became the mother of Kings and Queens worldwide.
@@SacredDreamer British not English government
I’m a little confused since queen Victoria’s mother is Princess Victoria whose own mother is then Countess Augusta right? I’m not sure
That was very difficult to follow. Gave up at 2 mins in. The smacking mouth noises are a bit gross too. ✌️💕🌻
Isn’t the idea that geo3’s condition was mental is rather out of dater don’t you think? If it was porphyria then we can say that caused the dark urine and stools as well as some of the behavioural problems. Which may ha vevlooked like madness
pretty sure they think geroge the third didnt have porphyria
He definitely did.
His porphyria caused his mental illness.
That has been ruled out. More than likely he had severe , untreated, bipolar disorder
Source?
Greetings, , Ladies, look at those paintings of all those men...
Honestly, do any of them give you that, ,"special feeling"?😲
The more things change, the more they remain the same.😷✈️
I’m not sure she was brutal. The ultimate helicopter parent? Yes. But I think she was genuinely afraid for her, her uncles wanted the throne, so she was afraid of poison or whatever, and if she fell down the stairs and died. We need to remember she wasn’t from England, and after her husband died was all alone. She DID have her brother at least. And Victoria was, all her LIFE, very hyperbolic and EXTREMELY self pitying, so what she says in her early diaries needs to be taken with a grain of salt. She DID have her sister there with her in early childhood, and she DID have other children to play with. She was an only child for all intents and purposes after her sister left to get married. I was an only child too, and yeah, we don’t have built in playmates, so we play alone a lot. But she acted like she never saw another child at ALL. Her mother did bring in other children for her to play with, she went out.
I agree with you. Some of the Kensington System was to keep Victoria safe. Her mother was fearful of Victoria being killed by her uncles to remove from line of succession. But other parts were designed to keep Victoria weak and dependent on her mother, & through her mother, on John Conroy. Not being allowed to walk up & down stairs without holding onto another adult’s hand and being forced to sleep in her mother’s bedchamber, until she was 18, that not normal. When Victoria was 16, she was very ill, I forget what with, Conroy tried to force Victoria to sign a document naming him as her personal secretary, essentially the power behind the throne. Conroy was her mother’s comptroller and the Kensington System was designed by him. Victoria’s relationship with her mother improved after Conroy was sent back to Ireland, Victoria & Albert were married and they started having children. Albert encouraged Victoria to reconcile with her mother
Charlotte was simply princess __ of Wales as the daughter of the then-prince of Wales. there has yet to be a princess of Wales Suo jure
Thanks for your engagement ❤️
Leopold I king of the belgians, not Belgium
Love your videos but please make an effort to listen to them before you post. Towards the end there were breathing sounds and noises that should’ve been cut.
Good heavens!! What an utter irritating voice over!!
Thank you 🙂
Not THAT bad....
Rude! Lovely voice
No. Couldn't listen to this.
Shame 🙃
@@PastPeople Insufferable. 🥱
Please read your history a tad most deeply. No question you have a serious point, but you most remember they were “ people of their time “. At least explain it more fully, please 🇨🇦
Your narrative is not clear
Witches.
There is no such thing as Monarch of England? Heir of England? It’s the United Kingdom. Horrible narration and poor pronunciation. 🙄🇬🇧
Commentator has an irritating voice. Ruins the whole thing
Don't listen. Its just lovely. Such meanness.