Chronic Pain, Chronic Fatigue & Migraine Cure with Nick Koutsos
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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2022
- Nick Koutsos had what he calls every symptom under the sun from an early age: agonizing pain that moved around his body, back pain, intense burning, chronic fatigue syndrome, insomnia, brain fog, anxiety, panic attacks and more. Nothing explained his symptoms until he discovered the revolutionary work of Dr. John Sarno. But it took years for him to really apply these principles and find his missing pieces. I was honored to work with Nick as my client and witness what he considers to be a cure from all the symptoms that plagued him for decades. You don't want to miss his amazing recovery story!
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Posted this on a Dan Buglio video but wanted to post here too since you, Rebecca, and Nick’s success story, along with Dan and Steve Ozanich, are really helping to accelerate my recovery.
“Today was my first day back to work in-office after 3 months of maternity leave. Backstory: multiple wild chronic symptoms for the past almost 3 years - it’s like a combo of POTS, CFS, MS - but it’s all one thing: TMS. Known about TMS for a year, got pregnant with 3rd baby shortly after (unexpectedly) and TMS symptoms caused complications that resulted in baby having to be delivered 6 weeks early. Needless to say, it has been TOUGH. But knowing about TMS has kept me going.
During our team lunch today, symptoms flared. Felt like I would pass out. I calmly excused myself to the mother’s pumping room, laid down, and breathed. Little fear because I knew what was happening, even with insomnia. Relaxed and accepted all sensations. Allowed them to wash over me with a lens of safety and self-compassion. After 20 mins, I felt better. My coworkers said I looked flush but I told them yeah nothing to worry about. But they said it was nice to see me smiling. And then I continued to feel better and better as the work day went on. And now as I sit on the couch nursing my baby at home, I feel at ease.
This was a huge victory. In the past, those sensations sent me to the ER (only to be sent home after finding nothing). You guys, I have 3 little kids, and my husband recently quit his job to go back to school so I’m the sole provider right now. If I can experience dramatic shifts like this during high stress times, you can too. Keep your spirits up and keep going. I’m doing it too.”
Lianne, You are absolutely incredible! That is a high degree of mastery be able to let the sensations wash through you with mindfulness and self-compassion, even with all the symptoms and life stressors you are facing. I am so impressed and happy for you! It's clear you're on the right path and truly understand all the symptoms are TMS. You are so resilient! I'd love to share your recovery story one day so feel free to reach out if/when you're ready. 💞
Thanks too for sharing your heartfelt comment and experience here! It truly warms my heart. And it's an honor to be in a league with Dan and Steve! 💖
I've listened to this three times now. I'm so inspired. I'm recovering well from long covid and will be taking rebeccas course in April. I'm so excited. Thank you Nick and Rebecca for this fantastic and inspiring interview
How exciting! I'm happy to hear you're joining Be Your Own Medicine in April! My previous students with Long Covid are having great results. May it deepen your healing!
I’m so glad he broke through the emotional stuff
Me too!! Nick did courageous inner work!
Awesome story and awesome people, both!
Aww, thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed our conversation!
So inspiring! I loved the clarity with which Nick described his whole process, all the components of healing. I could really relate to parts of his story.
Hello Dee! I agree that Nick is so inspiring and clear in understanding what helped him. We all must find our missing pieces. I'm glad you could relate to this story and wish your own deep healing for you! 💖
This was so incredibly inspiring! Thanks Rebecca! Nick’s courage is infectious:)
Thank you dear Paula! I agree 100%. He's so brave... and so are you! ❤
thanks nick
This was one of the most interesting and relatable recovery stories I have listened to, and I’ve listened to a lot!!! Thank you so much Nick and Rebecca for sharing it. The deep sense of ownership Nick has for his TMS journey, his clear explanation of what helped and why and the recovery journey of someone with migraine and sickness is inspiring. I am on my TMS journey and am moving forward with my life despite the pain and currently finding the somatic tracking/experiencing/movement really useful but true self compassion and truly living in the moment are still things I need to work on and I have learnt a lot from this video. I have signed up to Rebecca’s course and I look forward to exploring these things more. Thank you again Nick for sharing and well done. It is so wonderful to see what can be achieved not just in terms of improvement in physical sensations but in living a hopeful, fulfilled and joyful life. I am very happy for you!
So beautifully stated! I'm so glad that Nick's amazing story was so relatable for you. I agree that he's so clear in explaining what helped and what didn't. I'm so glad you're in my Be Your Own Medicine course starting September 22! We'll build on the somatic meditations with many different varieties, as well as a strong focus on self-compassion and being mindful/present in the moment. I'm looking forward to meeting and supporting you!❤
Thank you so much for your message. I am so excited you are doing Be Your Own Medicine course because I know it can and will bring about much healing.
@@Mozzos Such an incredible story. Thanks so much for sharing. Nick I relate so much to your experience. Just the severity of it. And also how you recovered. The pushing your way through the pain. I have completed my recovery from severe crps, I can now walk and have I would say 95 % pain free. I forced myself to walk again. It was brutal, my foot which was dark purple swelled up like a balloon but after 6 weeks the pain went away and the swelling finally receded. However I am now in my second round of debilitating tms, namely fatigue that has me bedridden 22 hours a day..,I would love to ask you a question about experience with fatigue. I don’t seem to be able to push the fatigue away like was able to with the pain. Every time I try I just get worse. And yet this is how I got my pain to go away. It feels different.
Any chance you would be up for a conversation with me?
Wow - what a truly wonderful interview Nick and Rebecca. Thank you So very much for sharing 😊
Aww, thanks so much Annette! You are a treasure. We're so glad you enjoyed it. Nick is a superstar and we all have that capacity-including you!💖
Nick you bloody rock!!!!! ❤️⭐️🤩 So do you Rebecca 🌹❤️ - I am so grateful
Wow what a comment!!! Soon you will be running 6 miles a day, I know it 🏃🏼♀️
You're the sweetest Tuula! Pretty soon, Nick will be trying to keep up with you!
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach Rebecca, I notice when I’m happy I leave my body - I’m not sure how to stay calm, embodied, and happy other when I swim or in nature - would somatic tracking or something else help? Ty
@@tuulafai4046 Dear Tuula, Sometimes our subconscious mind has a negative association with happiness.That can happen if it wasn't safe or supported to feel happiness when we were growing up. But we can reconnect with our innate happiness or contentment by practicing it in small doses, and really feeling it in the body. You can try to savor whatever makes you happy, like swimming or being in nature, lingering in those body sensations. You can also consciously bring them to mind throughout your day and see if you can get a glimmer of joy.
Yes, you can also work with happiness through somatic tracking, noticing how that sensation feels in your body and reminding yourself you are safe. But keep in mind that we want to work with whatever is present. Once we allow and experience the full range of emotions and sensations, happiness bubbles up more naturally. I hope that helps, dear one! 🥰
Truly inspiring ... 👍
I'm glad to hear that Nick is inspiring you! 💖
Such an inspiration! Thank you for sharing Nick! I’m starting Rebecca’s course this week and can’t wait!
I'm so happy you're joining Be Your Own Medicine, Lindsay! I agree that Nick is incredibly inspirational. We all have that potential inside us and I hope the course deepens your own healing! 💖
Thank you, Rebecca
It's our pleasure!
i. how amazing recording!farewell. Rebecca!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This is the most amazing and hope giving TMS story I’ve ever heard. Congrats!! So happy for you!
Ahh, thanks so very much! I agree that Nick's story is spectacular. Best wishes to you!
Superb testimony thank you both
Thanks for watching!
Splendid splendid ❤❤❤
Thank you! ❤
What a amazing interview!! Nick you are so inspiring. I’m so excited to start your course Rebecca 😊
I'm so excited to have you in Be Your Own Medicine, Hannah! It's going to be a powerful experience. I agree that Nick is incredibly inspiring. I look forward to seeing how you blossom too!
Thank you Hannah, still in shock my story and video is resonating and inspiring people. Just a simple fella really. I love that you are doing Rebecca course. So so excited for you and everyone who joined.
This is the best story! I went through the rage and am ready to let it all go!
@loveyourbodybyoctavia333
Nick's story is stellar and I'm glad it sparked something in you! As we allow our emotions in healthy ways, it's indeed easier to let go. Thanks for sharing and know that we're rooting for you!
Thank you so much for this story. I believe self compassion may be what I’m missing.
@AnderWestgaard
You're so welcome! Self-compassion is a missing piece for many people. You might enjoy Angela's story too as she talks about self-compassion too!
czcams.com/video/SKxYovsL9Ao/video.htmlsi=IerBCIxvcveI6N_L
czcams.com/video/7FT3S5U_r5E/video.html
Wishing you the best!
This is the second interview Ive heard of Nicks experience and SO glad it popped up today! What a fantastic story and delightful to listen to him-and the great vibe between you & him.
I just began today, diving back into the TMS issues that have resurfaced after being SO much better for months. Thank you Nick and Rebecca for putting this together. Super excellent!
Thanks Jules, so glad my story helped in some way. I hope all is well. It’s 5am here and I’m about to go for my run! Thank you Sarno!!
So glad that Nick's amazing story is inspiring you and that you're diving back into the TMS approach! As you heard, it was a game-changer for us both. Flare-ups are normal but now you have tools to navigate them! You've got this!
Wow Rebecca great stuff. Nick you are a super hero, I’m stalking your interviews now😂
Nick is a super hero! Stalk away Deborah! I'm so glad you're enjoying them. I'll release another one in the next couple weeks, and I always send out my content first through my newsletter. 💖
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Ha, Deborah me little bloody stalker! good that you checked Rebecca channel out, hopefully the LC recovery vids here do the trick for ya. If you go to her website she has a sneaky somatic tracking that pops up, its brilliant, what started it all for me really. Lucky you living in Brussels and not back in Sydney at the moment Deborah, heat is seriously off the charts with afternoon hail storms. Though it’s great for my 5am runs!
@@Mozzos 🤣yes just spoke to my best girlfriend in Cronulla and she said it was 32. it is like -32 here😂
@@Mozzos 🤣yes just spoke to my best girlfriend in Cronulla she said it was 32 it is - 32 here😂
@@deborahbutel2622 hahaha it’s 10:40pm here now and 34! I’m norwest baulko boy, usually deep asleep by 830pm cause I’m up so early but this heat! I wish it was - 30 ok not really!
Thank you Rebecca ❤️
Thanks Eric! My videos would not be complete if you didn't watch them! By the way, Nick has kindly offered to speak with people he can help, not as a coach but as someone who has recovered. Since you're both in Australia, feel free to reach out if you want to connect with him!
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach I really want to have a 1on1 session with youre coaching one day rebbecca! Yes he is from australia like me
@@ezza1236 I look forward to that Eric!
Such a great interview. What a lovely human being Nick is and so soulful. Loved loved loved this interview
Thanks Lego, after we tapped it I apologised to Rebecca cause I thought i did a terrible job. But it appears to have turned out great! Just that inner critic at play again. Thanks a bunch and I hope you are well.
I agree completely, Nick is such a lovely human being and his interview is inspiring so many! Thanks for sharing!
@@Mozzos Message to inner critic: This an AWESOME interview and it's resonating with many people!!!🤣
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
WOW……. So inspirational……..well done Nick x
Thank you! I agree that Nick is so inspirational!
Thanks mate, if I can reclaim my life then I know others can too.
@@Mozzos You're the best, Nick!
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach ditto
Realized after the last 3 years of super high stress my Crash is looking like CFS...( add more later)..
Thanks for sharing. I get started with fitness ( I am stil Afraid for the Pain and I also want to run again) the Things you Said ( sorry for my bad English I am from Holland) are very importend for me
have fun running!
I second what Nick said and hope you put back on those running shoes! 👟👟
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach I had running in the gym! My brain is confused 🙈
Hi there, Thankyou guys for sharing all the great info. I’m on my way to recovery and just hit a dip. My headaches have come back more intense. Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get rid of them?
Great job! Dips are part of the recovery process. Keep doing the things that have been helping you and view the headaches with outcome independence. They're just another mind-body symptom and as you bring mindfulness to them, work with thoughts and emotions and move on with your life, they can resolve. Most importantly, don't try to "get rid of them" as that scares your poor amygdala and keeps it activated!
Super inspiring talk, thanks so much for this interview, I dived into TMS a few weeks ago but your work has finally brought the last puzzle piece I think!! 2 similar questions tho:
1. I still struggle with finding a balance between challenging myself and treating myself in a mindful self-compassionate way, e.g. when Nick was running in pain when is it challenging, and when too much?
2. Also, I learned today about challenge vs overwhelm zone but where is the threshold? I do have anxiety and feel uneasy and overwhelmed often when being outside or at social events. Usually, I just try to sit with it (now with the tools instead of just getting through it) - mostly it resolves after some time. Is it still okay to experience this kind of overwhelm or shall we avoid these moments totally? This would mean for me I have to give up things that I would still want to do. I'm torn.
Many thanks ♥
Thanks for your wonderful comment and questions! I"m super happy to hear that you're embracing the TMS approach and that my work is adding the last puzzle piece! How amazing!
To answer your questions: The threshold for challenge is different for everyone and it's really about your internal state. Once you start dipping too far the overwhelm zone, when you can, return to your safe zone. Signs of overwhelm can be mental agitation or rumination, anxiety, fear that begins to overtake you, pain etc. If/when you can't stay mindful and watch the sensations through a lens of safety, it's generally time to back off and do something soothing for your nervous system. You want to create a corrective experience, not a retraumatizing one.
Nick has an exceptionally high pain threshold so he could witness excruciating pain and even laugh. That would not be me! I would not be able to stay present with moderate to high pain so I'd return to safety, or pendulate between something that feels comfortable and something that feels uncomfortable.
If you can sit with the sensations with outcome independence, that's great. But if you can't, that's okay too. It's important to be compassionate and prioritize safety or challenge, not overwhelm since the brain/nervous system shut down in this ladder state. Sometimes overwhelm is going to happen as you challenge your limits. That's okay. Just accept that too and adjust as needed. Your attitude about it is key!
You're doing great and I encourage you to keep going!!
This is an amazing story of healing and self love❤️ Thanks Nick and Rebecca for sharing 🙏🏼 And I recognize the power of surrender!
Are john Sarnos books applicable for chronic fatigue and overwhelm in the body? Which one would be a good starting point?
I completely acknowledge now that my body is not broken just stuck with unreleased trauma. This is so enpowering aldready and feel the somatic tracking is helping. Rebecca, how can I recieve your guidance?
Hi Elizabeth! I'm so happy to receive all your wonderful comments and sense your empowerment already! YOU ARE NOT BROKEN! Repressed emotions and trauma can cause SO many symptoms. But they aren't permanent, as Nick so beautifully shows us!
John Sarno's work IS applicable for fatigue and a sense of overwhelm. I recommend The Mind-Body Prescription, as he writes about a range of symptoms.
After coaching and teaching many people through their recoveries, I've put together a systematic recovery program that walks you through the steps to recovery! I'm currently turning Be Your Own Medicine into a self-paced course to be released in the next month!. It's a thorough program with knowledge, practices and many somatic meditations!
You can learn more here:
www.rebeccatolin.com/course
www.rebeccatolin.com/success
The best way to find out when I open registration is by signing up for my mailing list! You'll also get a free meditation:
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I'd love to support you! ❤
I had long covid, I fully recovered, was doing really well, mountain leader training. Then had another viral infection in March. Now I have another post viral syndrom, migraines, vertigo, fatigue, weird sudden energy loss/shaking etc everyday. It's almost worse now, I'm not convinced anything will help.
@janejenkins5137
This sounds so very hard but do not lose hope! I've seen many people with significant post-viral symptoms recovery through this approach. You might enjoy Angela's story:
www.rebeccatolin.com/blog/life-after-long-covid
Μπράβο Νίκο and Rebecca
Adonis Mallios here from Florida my cousins are in Sydney and Melbourne
thanks re
Thanks for saying hi!
Very helpful.. mind you, i would not cope with what nick went through. Jon bernie, my spiritual teacher said " spiritual awakening and healing are one and the same thing " i Agree.
Thank you Dom! For me, healing and spiritual awareness are very intertwined as well.
Love Anita Moorjani
She's amazing!
Hi can you help me with finding the right Dr John sarno. I’m wanting to read the book you guys mention about.
Is there a link to his book?
Thanks
Isabela
@isabelaoliver2568 Hi Isabela! I recommend the Mind-Body Prescription by Dr. John Sarno. You can find it on Amazon or other book sellers!
What a great interview. Rebecca you are a angel for the work you are doing, you should get a place close to God in heaven 🙂I hope to work with you together one day, if I cant recover by myself, would love to have you as my teacher, you are so wonderful.
And I would love to have Nick as my mate, it would be so nice to have him on the side.
Thank you so much! Your words warm my heart, as it's my intention to help others find their way to deep inner healing. I'd love to support your recovery! I'll be opening my Be Your Own Medicine program in the next month or two, as I've found it's the best way I can help others. You can learn more here: www.rebeccatolin.com/course
Nick is an incredible human and I could understand why you'd want him as a mate! Thanks for your kind words, and may you find all that you seek. Wishing you wellbeing!
Rebecca can you keep going through fatigue with CFS?
Yes! I recovered from CFS by: 1) Learning the mind-body knowledge, 2) Establishing somatic practices to bring a felt sense of safety and, 3) Gently introducing more activity with outcome independence to the symptoms.
You might enjoy Jenny's video on the subject! czcams.com/video/m3oY7soFJYc/video.htmlsi=-R7O1k4LyWTYeDLI
Thank you for the great interview. Nick, if you see this: at about 40:00 you talk about the relapse from hell where you felt like you were going to die and were fighting the symptoms and it had your full focus (I feel like this is about where I am!), then you just accepted it and surrendered basically. What was the progression after that: did it gradually ease and you went back to just somatic tracking and living your life? Just curious about how the bad relapse got better.
I was going through a lot of life stuff at that time which is why my brain freaked out. It’s all still a bit blurry and hard to recall because I was in a bad way and hadn’t slept for some time. I’m pretty sure all the symptoms just stopped and disappeared. I didn’t stop somatic tracking, being present and self compassion. Hope you find peace and comfort.
@@Mozzos Thanks so much
Such a great question and thanks for answering Nick! I also found that a deep sense of surrender preceded my own recovery. I see acceptance, a lack of fighting our body, to be a pivotal element for many people. It can lead to a radical transformation!
@@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach 100%
Where do I find somatic tracking that I can use?
You can try a free somatic tracking meditation when you sign up for my mailing list! www.rebeccatolin.com/newsletter
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I feel exhausted so do I rest or make myself exercise to imorove mood?
In this approach, we learn the knowledge that the fatigue is a false warning signal, establish practices to calm our nervous system and then introduce movement in slow, steady steps to retrain the brain (and improve mood!). So the answer is yes but do so carefully.
This was very interesting but I found it concerning how hard he pushed himself. Like the 9 days of pain. I wasn’t sure about whether that was self compassionate or punishing. His relapse didn’t surprise me to be honest. I’m not sure what to think of this interview.
I hear you! For most of us, pushing through so much pain would be counterproductive but Nick has a high pain threshold. The key is to learn your own limits and gently challenge them. I hope that makes sense!
So... Nick continuing to go running, even when in severe pain, in the end led to a break through because he did it out of (self) love, instead of out of fear?
Hi Jossje, Self-compassion was a big part of it because it made his brain feel safe. But daily practice of somatic meditations was huge too. That increased Nick's capacity for the sensations to the point where he truly wasn't scared of them. I summarize what worked for Nick in the blog I just released today! 💖
www.rebeccatolin.com/blog/chronic-pain-cure
Good interview but needs a trigger warning.
Thanks for that suggestion. What kind of warning would be helpful for my future reference?
Some of his symptom description was pretty graphic. TMSers can often pick up on the symptoms of others...maybe just a mention at the beginning of the interview. Not at all suggesting he should have changed his story.
@@janiswright9494 Yes, I hear you! It's a fine line because people really want to hear their specific symptoms named to realize they can recover. But I do understand your point too! Thanks for sharing that!
any one have nick’s email, i tried his website but currently under construction.
I'm sorry but it looks like Nick isn't available right now. He's a busy guy! You might check his website again in the future.